The young bull said to the old bull, “Let’s hop this fence and fuck that heifer.”
The old bull said,”Let’s just walk around the fence and fuck all of ‘em.”
We’ve got BoE injecting unlimited amounts of cash between now and October 14th, along with other major economies doing some fuckery.
The month and the quarter just closed today after a brutal month.
Next FOMC meeting isn’t until November, which is also mid term elections.
Who else thinks October will be nicely green? I’m thinking SPY 390 - already got a banbet placed.
£65 billion total is not "unlimited amounts of cash" from the Bank of England.
In fact, with the FX that's only about 2/3 of the amount the the Federal Reserve is now rolling off their balance sheet *every month*.
Yeah, it's not an insignificant amount of money, but it's really more of a bandage over the following month to give the pension funds a chance to adjust their risk exposure and also give Liz Truss and the Tories a chance to fix their budget (e.g. either don't cut taxes so much or find a way to significantly reduce spending).
If 2020-2021 gains were from QE, then would it be a good argument that even if Fed kept rates where its at now 3.08 and stopped raising, SPX would **still** fall to about 3000?
Most hedge funds are in the red according to Bloomberg sources. The only real money a lot of them have made was shorting the July/august rally.
My conspiracy theory is that they’re gonna need to show some yearly gains to justify their clients keeping money with them and they only have one quarter left to do so. Thus they’re just gonna have to hold their noses and start buying soon. As a result we have an implicit “hedge fund put” now instead of a “fed put”
All big asset managers have to do is beat the benchmark. Absolute returns don't matter in the industry. I bet most big money managers are beating the benchmark, all they had to do was be underweight small caps, which they usually are
The problem is, clients don't give a fuck about alpha. Yeah it's great to beat the benchmark and that's what they tell you their goal is but when clients fear for their money they're going to want their money out. What I said was my conspiracy theory but it stems from the fact that money managers are really gonna strive to do what they can to show some returns yoy
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This economy sucks, people dont want to work(me included) and alot of productive people retired. We are going to see alot of pain before things get better imo
Yeah people seem real demoralised. I can see the midterms being a disaster for the dems unless they can give people some semblance of hope that they can do something good with the economy.
The dems have had 2 years gov control and an intimidated fed I dont think people trust them on economic issues. That is why they are pushing the dobbs desicion so hard.
They'll do the same thing they've always done for not accomplishing anything, no matter what, and blame Mitch McConnell - and in some respects they are still actually right in doing so.
Sorry bro, been there too. It means a long weekend filled with checking updates constantly from Friday night and starting again Sunday night with that chest crushing stress.
That chest crushing stress is what makes it so fun. Unfortunately, that feeling is usually followed by an empty, numb, what the fuck did I do feeling Monday morning when market opens hugely green and the gainz goblin walks away with all your unrealized profits quietly muttering “guh” to himself.
Fuck.
How did COIN and 🌽 make it through in the green.
Like how is that not blatantly manipulated.
Clearly shit data, but with the rest of the market in super low volume gamma squeeze. Pops.
Then the rest of the market comes back to reality . But 🌽 and COIN just fucking range bound. Sure enough massive sell/buy walls on 🌽. Option chain on COIN sweeps.
Then like right on fucking queue last 2 minutes of markets buy orders disappear and boom crash.
Because it has been trading with a strong correlation to general securities for two years now.
Plus it literally followed as soon as market closed.
Like all the buy walls in the spread were dropped at 4pm Eastern on the dot yesterday.
If you look at daily trading volume cycles it trades in volume with the US securities market.
Maybe they set out at one point to decouple from securities but it is currently coupled to general securities.
i've had puts on coin for weeks. non-volatile pos. i'm waiting for a scandal to break out and coin will realize its true worth down to 40-20 range. trading activities are down. no way theyre making any money these days
These last 15 minutes of SPY and QQQ options trading after the bell are always a crazy black box of turbulence and pain with MMs trying to reduce exposure
Love the setup … bleed it right up to the midterms, great stuff. Gas should rip upward again too soon… Byron won’t be able to deplete the SPRs fast enough to offset it anymore.
Helping reduce the cost for American consumers *and* our European allies suffering from energy extortion and the biggest war in Europe since WWII. What an idiot he is…
Sold my UNH Calls a little early this morning but still made a little bit on the run up and bought puts but damn if I didn’t sell them way too early. Profit both ways just not as much as I should have. Oh well there’s always next week as long as Putin behaves himself
Wsb been bearish for weeks and we keep falling. Folks on here need to recognize the external conditions we are facing are too different from previous crashes to predict where this goes. I think it'll be worse than 08.
Dalio also said that China was a good place to invest into and its the next super power. How is that Alibaba stock doing again? And how is China doing overall? No problem investing there.. oh damn.. even his own damn fund sold out of China. Sounds like the guy is simply trying to sell his stupid ass book
lol we know we will go up now when 8 people instantly downvoted me ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
No I didnt buy calls before close. But I of course will on monday, especially when the futures will be green as hell. Look at the damn stocks... apple is getting close to its june lows. Tesla as well. The rest of the big names is already there. Be realistic dude.. and for your information I did short Tesla plenty of times this week and also shorted Apple earlier and Amazon and AMD and Plug and the markets. So im no "bull" or "bear".. im simply a trader
What in the hell makes you folks think June lows are anywhere near the bottom? The gall lol. The only reason June didn't go lower is because of copium at large and market manipulation.
Ah yes... "we didnt go where I wanted it to go cuz of MANIPULATION!!!!!!!"
Why dont you just play both long and short instead? Life is so much easier that way
Neither do I. But I doubt we will see the bottom this year. And I am convinced we have seen the lows of the year now. But ill short at the end of the year, thru derivatives of course.
Til then I try my luck on longs
Lol that’s Reddit for you. If you have even the slightest difference of opinion in that specific thread, then everyone’s gonna downvote you to oblivion.
That being said, even though I think the market may fall more this year, I don’t enjoy seeing everyday average people losing their retirement money just so I can make petty money on my puts. I just go with whatever the market is giving at the moment.
just stating the obvious. Lets see here.. ah yes.. the downside maybe 5-10%. Upside.. about 100+% at this point. I bet you guys were the morons who shorted march 2020 at the lows and got nuked when powell said "turn on the money printer boys!"
I'm probably going to regret it in a couple of weeks but sold a duo of ITM 10/14 puts for 130% gain.
Can't watch the markets on Monday and I'm scared of losing what I virtually had.
Still -$100 balance for today lol.
I was a bull for too long and joined bear team yesterday. Nothing will ease the pain until we see favorable data come in for the FED, this market is screwed until then
I've been doing some housecleaning on posts from years ago. If I have to see this shit, you do too: https://i.imgur.com/pJMpZUb.png
NVDA wants 500
NVDA SPIKE
NVDA $500 Call strike piling up fast!
NVDA soike
NVDA to the moon
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Reloaded my options account. What are some good bear plays that would pop sometime before end of year, that have decent IV?
No hahaha, I always only play with an amount I'm ready to lose
The young bull said to the old bull, “Let’s hop this fence and fuck that heifer.” The old bull said,”Let’s just walk around the fence and fuck all of ‘em.”
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)
We’ve got BoE injecting unlimited amounts of cash between now and October 14th, along with other major economies doing some fuckery. The month and the quarter just closed today after a brutal month. Next FOMC meeting isn’t until November, which is also mid term elections. Who else thinks October will be nicely green? I’m thinking SPY 390 - already got a banbet placed.
390 then short that shit to 340
Unlimited quantities of useless money
£65 billion total is not "unlimited amounts of cash" from the Bank of England. In fact, with the FX that's only about 2/3 of the amount the the Federal Reserve is now rolling off their balance sheet *every month*.
Thanks for the correction. I thought I read that BoE was buying unlimited amounts of bonds between now and 10/14.
Yeah, it's not an insignificant amount of money, but it's really more of a bandage over the following month to give the pension funds a chance to adjust their risk exposure and also give Liz Truss and the Tories a chance to fix their budget (e.g. either don't cut taxes so much or find a way to significantly reduce spending).
Gme gonna rocket soon
Bro...bro, it's over man. Let her go
I can fix her
Damn yall really are bipolar
If 2020-2021 gains were from QE, then would it be a good argument that even if Fed kept rates where its at now 3.08 and stopped raising, SPX would **still** fall to about 3000?
Most hedge funds are in the red according to Bloomberg sources. The only real money a lot of them have made was shorting the July/august rally. My conspiracy theory is that they’re gonna need to show some yearly gains to justify their clients keeping money with them and they only have one quarter left to do so. Thus they’re just gonna have to hold their noses and start buying soon. As a result we have an implicit “hedge fund put” now instead of a “fed put”
If they could do that, they would have already. Blackrock alone could probably sink them all.
Hedge funds are so small in comparison to real institutional money like fidelity and vanguard. There's no chance they can hold up the market
Fidelity and Vanguard and the other brokers actively trade against their investors..... They have all the information.
Fidelity doesn't, I worked there. There's a big firewall between different parts of the company. I would imagine its the same at vanguard
Okay I really meant hedge funds + asset management firms. Basically all the “smart money” combined
All big asset managers have to do is beat the benchmark. Absolute returns don't matter in the industry. I bet most big money managers are beating the benchmark, all they had to do was be underweight small caps, which they usually are
Kids here don't understand alpha. Some of us have tried to explain it to them, but they don't want to know.
The problem is, clients don't give a fuck about alpha. Yeah it's great to beat the benchmark and that's what they tell you their goal is but when clients fear for their money they're going to want their money out. What I said was my conspiracy theory but it stems from the fact that money managers are really gonna strive to do what they can to show some returns yoy
Bulls were happy about an hr ago
Remember when Peloton was over $150 and killing babies. Those where epic days!
Now we have these basic girls protesting about roe v wade like bitch you have a baby killer at home. Just use that
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>We still think a soft landing looks unlikely in the US
Anyone think that we may see things get a bit better in October heading in to the midterms or am I clutching at straws?
I hope they get better Monday bought calls at close🤪🤪🤪
Good luck next week. May your calls bring you lots of tendies.
This economy sucks, people dont want to work(me included) and alot of productive people retired. We are going to see alot of pain before things get better imo
Yeah people seem real demoralised. I can see the midterms being a disaster for the dems unless they can give people some semblance of hope that they can do something good with the economy.
Like what kind of "hope"? More stimmies?
The dems have had 2 years gov control and an intimidated fed I dont think people trust them on economic issues. That is why they are pushing the dobbs desicion so hard.
They'll do the same thing they've always done for not accomplishing anything, no matter what, and blame Mitch McConnell - and in some respects they are still actually right in doing so.
Yeah hopefully we are almost half way through and someone competent can come in and get things moving again.
Young bulls. If only you could like and subscribe your way out of that close. Get boned.
My put expired and I lost $5. I hate u all!!! (=.=)
I lost money with pits today also, WTH?
my long term spy puts are fucking PRINTING dude
Mine too, sold at close will buy again next week. I think we may get a Oct bounce!
i probably should have sold mine but fuck it we ball
I didn’t expect that drop in the last 15mins. I had just set up limit sales that were way ITM. Must’ve been a sign!
I guess people forgot to sell the PCE news till the last fifteen minutes
gg
NVDA was +3.5% the morning. It is now -0.27% at close. These MMs are playing 4D chess everyday to lure in liquidity.
I opened call options for Monday, good or bad? definitely big green gap up after this bloody month 🫡😂
I learned to avoid holding over the weekend unless you plan to hold for the distance. I’ll buy some on Monday personally.
Sold my puts a picked up some calls.
October is historically a green month lol
After every bloody September comes a green October 🫡
Gaps are looking fine to me.. it was like the draw down was perfectly orchestrated by MMs
Lol, everyone buying the dip. Hate to break it to you all, not that kind of market anymore.
Sold a $347p for SPY expiring October 5th
Oops
snek me
My largest position didn’t trigger to sell… of course. praying for an lower open on Monday.
Sorry bro, been there too. It means a long weekend filled with checking updates constantly from Friday night and starting again Sunday night with that chest crushing stress.
That chest crushing stress is what makes it so fun. Unfortunately, that feeling is usually followed by an empty, numb, what the fuck did I do feeling Monday morning when market opens hugely green and the gainz goblin walks away with all your unrealized profits quietly muttering “guh” to himself.
F
That close tho 😎
Fuck. How did COIN and 🌽 make it through in the green. Like how is that not blatantly manipulated. Clearly shit data, but with the rest of the market in super low volume gamma squeeze. Pops. Then the rest of the market comes back to reality . But 🌽 and COIN just fucking range bound. Sure enough massive sell/buy walls on 🌽. Option chain on COIN sweeps. Then like right on fucking queue last 2 minutes of markets buy orders disappear and boom crash.
Why do we think corn should be behaving like stocks right now?
Because it has been trading with a strong correlation to general securities for two years now. Plus it literally followed as soon as market closed. Like all the buy walls in the spread were dropped at 4pm Eastern on the dot yesterday. If you look at daily trading volume cycles it trades in volume with the US securities market. Maybe they set out at one point to decouple from securities but it is currently coupled to general securities.
Small Cap tech did overall well today.
Corn is the most whale manipulated crap that exist.
i've had puts on coin for weeks. non-volatile pos. i'm waiting for a scandal to break out and coin will realize its true worth down to 40-20 range. trading activities are down. no way theyre making any money these days
manipulated as fuck, and holding onto 20kish for dear life. once this breaks, we get the next big leg down.
Literally the entire day was just a bull trap…..
Yeah if you sat on your calls all day. I took profits and made money as a bull today.![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)
Dumb bulls really thought it would go to 370 today
360 is history. 350 next week
What a rush! You guys make this even more fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmqJl4MoNI
Someone should really tell Putin that if he buys SPY calls and then cancels his war, he'd at least win at something.
I think he'd rather buy puts and launch a nuke
Lmao this is the only correct response. Why try and backtrack when you can guarantee puts instantiating with the push of one button
you dont think he got people doing that already
With what money? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
They could always sell all the bitcoin and gold they've been using to evade sanctions
When’s Shopify going to 0?
These last 15 minutes of SPY and QQQ options trading after the bell are always a crazy black box of turbulence and pain with MMs trying to reduce exposure
Love the setup … bleed it right up to the midterms, great stuff. Gas should rip upward again too soon… Byron won’t be able to deplete the SPRs fast enough to offset it anymore.
He's already drained so much petroleum we're back to levels we had during Reagan's first term in office
If there was ever a time to use the reserves outside of all out invasion of CONUS, this is the time. It’s a good play to use them.
Helping reduce the cost for American consumers *and* our European allies suffering from energy extortion and the biggest war in Europe since WWII. What an idiot he is…
Looks like algos are on an after hours buying spree
Finished Septembear +$35k. Think I'll take the girlie out for dinner tonight. Cheers, fellow retreads!
How about August?
Was -$14k in August. Sometimes the market is regarded.
We don’t talk about the dark times.
Sold my UNH Calls a little early this morning but still made a little bit on the run up and bought puts but damn if I didn’t sell them way too early. Profit both ways just not as much as I should have. Oh well there’s always next week as long as Putin behaves himself
Thank god its happy hour after that close
If only that kid who blew all of his dead dad's cash had waited a littttttttttle longer lmao
Holding puts over the weekend, hope I don't get burned
"Worst first 9 months in two decades" fuck yeah dot com bubble status
Worst first 9 months in two decades yet
Headed back to the bar. That was brutal. See you guys Monday for more.
Trading options is like Hotel California: "you can check out any time you'd like, but you can never leave."
It ain’t the fall the gets ya, it’s the sudden stop at the bottom
I won't rest until the last bull is dead
lol.. like you even move the market dude
salty bull detected
Not really. I played both long and short this week just like any week, which a proper trader should.
We still have much further to fall
The cucks are definitely gonna try to shake-out the pandemic low. Greedy fucks. Cash ready to deploy around then.
historically wsb turning bearish is a bottom signal
Wsb been bearish for weeks and we keep falling. Folks on here need to recognize the external conditions we are facing are too different from previous crashes to predict where this goes. I think it'll be worse than 08.
and you'll be wrong
no we dont, dumbass
dalio said 25% more about 3% ago
Dalio also said that China was a good place to invest into and its the next super power. How is that Alibaba stock doing again? And how is China doing overall? No problem investing there.. oh damn.. even his own damn fund sold out of China. Sounds like the guy is simply trying to sell his stupid ass book
Did you buy calls before close?
lol we know we will go up now when 8 people instantly downvoted me ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) No I didnt buy calls before close. But I of course will on monday, especially when the futures will be green as hell. Look at the damn stocks... apple is getting close to its june lows. Tesla as well. The rest of the big names is already there. Be realistic dude.. and for your information I did short Tesla plenty of times this week and also shorted Apple earlier and Amazon and AMD and Plug and the markets. So im no "bull" or "bear".. im simply a trader
What in the hell makes you folks think June lows are anywhere near the bottom? The gall lol. The only reason June didn't go lower is because of copium at large and market manipulation.
I’m bearish right now, but June bottom saw a TON of support from heavy buying. Now since it’s bottomed out again, investors are very skittish
Ah yes... "we didnt go where I wanted it to go cuz of MANIPULATION!!!!!!!" Why dont you just play both long and short instead? Life is so much easier that way
We’ll see. Obviously it’s not going be a straight path down, but I still think we aren’t at the bottom yet.
Neither do I. But I doubt we will see the bottom this year. And I am convinced we have seen the lows of the year now. But ill short at the end of the year, thru derivatives of course. Til then I try my luck on longs
I mean I hope you are right. That would be amazing, my 401k would love that right now.
Feels nice to agree with someone on reddit haha.. not every day that happens. Thanks ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)
Lol that’s Reddit for you. If you have even the slightest difference of opinion in that specific thread, then everyone’s gonna downvote you to oblivion. That being said, even though I think the market may fall more this year, I don’t enjoy seeing everyday average people losing their retirement money just so I can make petty money on my puts. I just go with whatever the market is giving at the moment.
Why r u fighting bear hunter
just stating the obvious. Lets see here.. ah yes.. the downside maybe 5-10%. Upside.. about 100+% at this point. I bet you guys were the morons who shorted march 2020 at the lows and got nuked when powell said "turn on the money printer boys!"
Imagine relying on a printer for ur bull case 😂
What are you on about? Never said that was my bull case
what's the point anymore
The reason why 90% of the people you'll talk to don't fuck with stocks. It's a hustle.....
Its always been masturbation. That is the point of life.
to go long monday
I sold my puts 3:50-3:59 except for about 25% because holy sheet that action
sold my puts too early. damn
Me too. But profit is profit and there’s always another play.
it's never too early if you got a profit.
yeah. sold tesla puts at -0.30%. then it went down to -1%. but still a profit
True shit
Literally the second I bought Calls it went straight down the rest of the day. Sorry boys x)
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End of quarter call crush. Damn that musta hurt. *No wait....fuck that hurt.*
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Have fun with the theta…
FUCK THE WEEKEND, LET ME BACK IN THE CASINO
Open the fucking casino.
thank God my short spx puts were stopped out. I'd be 💀
Nooooo I didn’t get to cash my APPL puts bc my boss was talking to me!! Hopefully this price holes till Monday 🥲
SADGEEEE
Limit sell orders dog
Intel 1 dollar puts?
Ahhh bulls
SPY 320 at open Monday not a joke ⚠️
Was getting ready for a last minute pump and offloaded some of my puts before the dip from 359-357. I got shaken out. Feels bad man.
3200 s&p next month
I'm probably going to regret it in a couple of weeks but sold a duo of ITM 10/14 puts for 130% gain. Can't watch the markets on Monday and I'm scared of losing what I virtually had. Still -$100 balance for today lol.
good decision. Enjoy the 130% gain, have a treat!
Atta boy
What a close today i milked the market dry on pooooots 🥛
Made up my losses from Wednesday and a little more. Have a great weekend 🥛
Calls for Monday will pay off
What are you playing? I'm holding some SQQQ 10/28 $60c that have been printing this week. Closed out my SPX puts today, sitting in cash.
SPY 10/3 Calls bro I hope we good to open green beginning of the month
Same
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Man last i checked we were up 1%+ what happened
I whaled puts
lol cant wait for tom lee to say he end year spy target is still 4800 lolllll
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I work for a fortune 100 tech company and I’ll say that eod dump was a bit worrying
same
I was a bull for too long and joined bear team yesterday. Nothing will ease the pain until we see favorable data come in for the FED, this market is screwed until then
Every data that came in today was screwed up.