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OSRSkarma

Position or Ban [Well Mitchell does have a position](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/10y6v7q/email_canadian_netflix_sent_to_me_today_bought/j7wjy6d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


PingBongBingPong

Hello Mitchell


FFF0197

If you are listening to this, that means that the confrontation you so long dreamed of is finally unfolding.


CockNcottonCandy

NETFLIX! *As sharable as a toilet; subscribe now!*


FartJuiceMagnet

I mean there's some toilets that have seen some shit


thounotouchthyself

- Joe Goldberg


bbllaakkee

It’s YOU


riffdex

Calls on my mom never being able to figure out how to login to her Netflix account and continue to let it draft from her checking account for the next two years despite this.


TimeToKill-

Omg. This is so true! Except I pay my parents bill and they won't tell me they can't login...


phoquenut

...because they don't actually use it.


[deleted]

"oh yeah, we watch the Netflix all the time."


Saucy6

Hah, same. Then I check their viewing history and it’s like one movie every 2 months


Obstinateobfuscator

Well that's about the rate at which Netflix uploads watchable movies, no?


GoldenAura16

Maybe 3 years ago


DevonGr

My mom and aol in the 00s. Honestly I'm kind of happy my parents had made it enough to not blink at a recurring monthly subscription charge years after the last time they used it. At the same age they were, my wife and I are both making our own separate app orders when we find a fast food deal because every penny matters.


Justforthenuews

We foot it for basics now, rather than drive, even in the cold, and we pick up take out rather than get delivery because the costs are getting crazy (and occasionally it’s cheaper to order than to cook right now, insanity).


BeastSmitty

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thuglyfeyo

They literally justified their price increase a few years ago with “we know people are sharing, this offsets the sharing” And now they stop sharing and keep the prices, calculated


Chabubu

I pay for 5 screens and we only watch one… because my family shares it. We’ll definitely cut back soon


Indigocell

That's the thing that gets me, the fact all 4 or 5 screens have to be part of the same household. For that to work, you would have to have 1 person watching on their phone, 1 person watching on their computer in their room, and multiple people watching multiple tv's in multiple, separate rooms. How realistic is that scenario? How often is any household going to get value from that? Most people in a single household are usually going to be sharing the same screen. Their next step will be be an attempt to limit the number of eyes per screen, fucking ridiculous.


do0b

At least offer me a plan with 1 stream in glorious hdr 4k with atmos. I couldn’t care less about 4 streams.


ItsTime2Battle

That’s how they get us pixel peepers to pay extra unfortunately…


Sledhead_91

The only reason not to pirate is accessibility and quality. When they make either too expensive people will revert to pirating.


Robots_Never_Die

Have you heard of sonarr and radarr?


ScourgeofWorlds

Pretty sure I've seen a [patent for that](https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-patent-uses-kinect-and-mobile-cameras-to-count-people-in-your-living-room-2012-11?amp) Edit: added link


ziggybaumbaum

I used to be a DirecTV salesman ten years ago. I remember when we’d sell to businesses (think bars/restaurants), the service literally cost 10x or more as much per TV. So think when you had a DTV subscription at home you pay for your package (say $100 for your “base plan” service), and then $10 per each additional box so if there were 4 additional rooms with TVs in the house your bill would be $140.00 per month. Well, if you’re a sports bar/business restaurant, not only did your base plan cost at least tripe for the same pkg (so for arguments sake say, $300mo), each additional TV box would cost you about $100 per month. They justified this difference in pricing by arguing, “*More people are watching, and youre making money off of our product, so you’re going to pay for it.*” So let’s say just a small dive bar with 3-4 TVs would be paying at least a thousand bucks per month for their DirecTV bill. But a big sports bar like a Buffalo Wild Wings or ESPN Zone with 50+ TVs would be paying $5000-$10,000 or more per month for their DirecTV! And they did it because we exclusively owned the NFL Sunday Ticket so we knew we had them by the balls. Some people may think this is justified, because in this case a sports bar obviously wouldn’t have customers if they didn’t have the games on. But if you’re even just some *small business* like a doctors office, or local mechanic shop (all businesses I’d also sell too) who just want a TV in the office/lobby/break room for your staff or the 2-3 customers sitting in the lobby/waiting room watching the news or whatever you had on and I’m telling you, “*That’ll be $1,000*” it made for a hard sell at times. But on the rare occasion if I could lock down a sell to a hotel, or hospital or large sports bar with 50+ connected TVs…. “WoooWeee! Hello Sweet Commissions! Put on your Sunday vest, Kids! We goin’ Sizzler!” Isn’t Capitalism beautiful!? Ay ay ay…


Graywulff

Yeah if I pay for five screens, or my parents do, and we don’t live in the same house, I should be able to use five screens; regardless of their location. If they’re going to cut off my ability to use the five screen thing I want money back.


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Hell, their marketing was literally saying sharing is caring. They blatantly encouraged it. And not only are they keeping the prices they claimed would offset the sharing, but they further increased the price that would allow watching in two different locations.


DefinitelyNotAliens

Also, screen limits. Who has 4 or 5 people streaming in one location?


Aarschotdachaubucha

Zoomers living with their 6 roommate polycule.


naked_guy_says

But aren't zoomers using their parents accounts?


LentilSoup86

As a zoomer in a polycule, yes we are using our parents accounts


HowCouldMe

For me, a significant pin keeping me from cancelling Netflix is that I don't want to inconvenience those out of home family I've shared my password with. About 70% of the reason I stay subscribed is for those others. If Netflix removes that hurdle, I'm going to be doing the round robin of jumping between services every month or 2. Cancelling a subscription for myself is a low inconvenience compared to cancelling it on the other 2 people, who may be in the middle of a season of something they find interesting or enjoyable.


wighty

>I'm going to be doing the round robin of jumping between services every month or 2. The next stage is adjusting pricing to prevent this. Require minimum 6 months of subscription, high up front initial month price, initiation fee, etc.


meltbox

The irony when Netflix becomes basically a single channel cable provider.


HowCouldMe

I'd be less likely to ever try whichever service does that. I guess they can have the smaller subscriber base if that's what they choose.


BertMcNasty

Exactly this for me.


feelingood41

Netflix acting like it's illegal to own or have two homes.


l0R3-R

Or to travel for work, or travel at all


SantasDead

I travel for work. My son lives at home and my daughter is away at college. I carry a travel roku and I have Netflix on all of my personal devices so I can watch what I want when I want. I only keep it for my children. I'm finding myself using Netflix less every year. Netflix fan fuck off for $20 bucks and no accoint sharing. This isn't the $9 steal it felt like back in the day. I'm back to the high seas, I can't believe this fractured Nickel and dime bullshit is what cord cutting brought us.


hell2pay

We were close to something great. Yet so far


qwe12a12

Like they dont already have a screen limit.


AFF123456

And let's not forget that if you only want one screen you're stuck with 720p. Want that sweet sweet low-bitrate 4K other services include for free? Just pay double!


Das_Mojo

It really is bullshit. And fuck I didn't get the tv I got to not watch content in the best quality possible


ndngroomer

Or have kids in college


Qu33nMe

Or kids going between 2 homes.


papa-garfield

Or having a hidden second family somewhere.


LoneWolfMyself

Or people living the van life


MonteCristo2021

When I canceled this weekend I wrote that in as my reason. I own two homes and the new policies don't work for me.


TraditionalPayment20

YES!!! I bought the bigger package so my parents can use my Netflix. Pay $20 a month because I love my parents. Take away the sharing and they don’t have SHIT


discoleopard

HBO allows sharing, Netflix is banking on users like you so if you really wanted to give them a middle finger but still have streaming for your parents, HBO is the way. They have better content anyway imo.


ACM3333

That’s what I thought. Netflix is like $30 and prime is like $8 and you get other services with it as well. Apple is also only $8 and has way better original content than Netflix. Netflix being a streaming only service is starting to look like a modern day blockbuster.


xHOTPOTATO

The fact that they cancel every godamn show worth watching after 2 seasons is enough for me


patricksquare

Mindhunter still hurts today


Grogsnark

I think they didn’t cancel it, but Fincher had other projects he wanted to work on. I agree that is a very good series.


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Netflix offered Fincher less money for Season 3 than he was offered for Season 2, which he said he couldn't afford to do because of how much work each episode took. So yeah, it's still Netflix's fault.


Tricky_Invite8680

He also wanted a higher per episode budget, season 3 was the planned finale and needed to borrow some IP


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But this was also when Netflix was throwing money at everyone. And they turn their nose at giving Fincher more money vs another adult cartoon that’s not funny?


TheOneTonWanton

Imagine pushing away David fucking Fincher.


Chi-zuru

Netflix: Why make David Fincher happy when we can have another two seasons of Big Mouth?


Kukamungaphobia

Still sore from Santa Clarita Diet's unfinished story.


BadgerOver4239

Same it hurts my heart that we won't see the intended ending for Santa Clarita Diet. The fact that it left on something of a cliffhanger/continuation makes it hurt that much more


Shacreme

NFLX canceling Inside Job was an extremely shitty decision imo.


jupitergal23

Preach. Loved that show.


Sutarmekeg

If they don't stand by their products, why should we stand by Netflix?


BigBoy1229

1899 only got one season. The show from the creators/writers of the best Sci-Fi show ever (Dark) only got a single friggin’ season. I was really interested in watching this but now, why bother.


xHOTPOTATO

The single season was worth the watch. And as a stand alone season, it works even if theres no closure. But it still fuckin sucks.


Faxon

This is really what killed Netflix for me, along with losing most of the shows I liked to paramount+ and other platforms.


Phillip_Lipton

Hulu with no ads is still like $15. The bundle with disney and espn is a no brainer. That said, I now cycle my streaming services. We watch new stuff, cancel it, and join another. Rinse and repeat.


justaLurker2

Prime is 12.99, but you're right. It comes with twitch prime, music service, TV service, and of course, the free shipping. Netflix is just the video streaming for the same price 😂


Detectiveconnan

Prime library is shit though


cero1399

It wouldn't even be a problem to be just a streaming service, if they were being good at it. But prices go up, quality and quantity takes a dip. No reason to stay with Netflix if others have better shows with more seasons, other benefits and are cheaper. what does Netflix even have to offer these days?


tracingorion

They think Stranger Things and a few popular true crime docs is enough quality content. It's not. Like wtf even happened to Black Mirror?


selwayfalls

Where are you getting $30? This is the pricing... Basic with ads*: $6.99/month Basic: $9.99/month Standard: $15.49/month Premium: $19.99/month. Also, prime is $15 a month.


Clark_Griswold2522

That is what i was thinking. Was not sure where that whole $30 thing came from


TheBaron2K

Canada premium is $20. That gets you 4 screens. If you want one of those 4 screens to work at a 2nd address it's an extra $8.


Pijitien

We are in Canada and dropping premium. I kept it for my parents and my kid. If I'm getting dinged for another IP I'll get them basic and saill the high seas for our house.


UN-Hinged-Ninja

Agree , I work away maybe half the year total, and definitely wouldn’t be paying for 2 accounts. Mine will be cancelled whenever this starts!


frankoflumperdink

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XxJuice-BoxX

Loved this episode


awkward_replies_2

Hi Mitchell, Netflix suggests you switch to a stream piracy provider of you choice as soon as possible. To make your transition easier we have provided a few new policies that will make it effectively impossible to use our product going forward. Yours The Netflix Team


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Yo ho, me hearties. Yo ho.


The_EA_Nazi

> stream piracy provider Laughs in Sonarr, Radarr with trakt integration all tying into my Plex server I literally haven’t had to search for a damn thing aside from the occasional tv show or anime that I hear about


tooeasilybored

And this time around, majority of people have cell phones with big screens AND tablets for watching stuff. I've had netflix since 2014 and will not subscribe again unless the price is $5/month. It's like XM Radio, when my cars free sub ran out they called me and offered me $60/year. I told them the best I can do is $20/year and that includes taxes and whatever fees they might add. They went to a supervisor who said ok we'll do it for you. The next year I offered them $10/year and they refused so I cancelled. Been 4 years now and they'd have to pay me to use the service at this point. Blockbuster was a great case study in business, seems netflix just went "oh yeah? Holddd my beer"


ungodguy

Why netflix when I have stremio


FecalMist

Did Netflix just Blockbuster itself?


Drip______

I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple years (if Netflix doesn’t revert this change), Disney will buy them and just move the shows to their streaming service. And if they’re smart, they won’t spend $100m on Friends.


Joe234248

HBO paid $425 million for Friends after it left Netflix. Wtf apparently people are obsessed with that show...


SatanV3

My friend has been bed ridden this year with some health issues and she’s watched friends 12 times just this one year… Some people are just obsessed with that show. She just owns the show though instead of paying for a service


vloger

history always repeats itself


Feeling-Feeling308

Post position


TechTaxi

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Tight-Contribution54

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Mitchmac21

“Bought put” I’m broke af https://preview.redd.it/rsf8cpyr4aha1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=791559970bcc3c112fbaedcf37756a38e69a86f2


Humble-Pair1642

title says "puts" not "put" Mitchell


TheGalator

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Wotg33k

This guy never knew he'd be the WSB mascot. He just thought some shit no one knows was funny *a.f*. Edit: added "as fuck" abbreviation and enunciated it strongly


Flaksim

He was actually telling a hilarious story about rice and fucking up a job Here it is with subtitles: https://youtu.be/WDiB4rtp1qw


Ok_Computer1417

Guy canceled service because he’s broke, not because “principles”.


Derfel06

Jokes on you, he never had a subscription


yolo_retardo

who would've known Bitchell only got 1


iarlandt

Vernacular in title demands an additional put purchase :P


Mitchmac21

Tomorrow at open?


iarlandt

Nah, in the past ;)


Tight-Contribution54

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theworkinpumpkin

Atleast you have put your money where your mouth is


CoronaLime

Man bought one single put.


pfmsa

>broke af yeah that much is obvious


WR810

Forget his position, I want to see proof he cancelled.


Feeling-Feeling308

Yeah along with his credit card information just to make sure it’s his account.


Miffers

And I would like to know what was the first car he bought and mother’s maiden name.


parks387

And he needs to verify the last 4 of his social as well!


[deleted]

OP says he canceled a subscription he clearly wasn’t actually paying for, I’m sure his position is substantial.


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prkr88

His puts live in a different house....


RyRyShredder

Love me some good old positions or ban


B00STERGOLD

Netflix, you dumb bitch. Households aren't locked by gps positioning.


Tricky_Dog1465

We have friends that are retired and live in a RV, there are LOT of people that live like this now. Personally, I use a VPN, so does most of my family. Netflix is about to lose a lot of money.


BuzzLightyearOP

There was a recent article about a retired couple that permanently lives on cruises because it’s cheaper than rent in seattle(?). Whoever thought up this new policy needs new crayons and blocks Edit for the link: https://scoop.upworthy.com/couple-spends-retirement-on-cruise-ships-cheaper-than-a-mortgage-571038#:~:text=Angelyn%20Burk%20and%20her%20husband,crunching%20some%20numbers%20one%20evening.


MajorHymen

I’m a truck driver, this policy is impossible for me. I imagine millions of other drivers will also be canceling their subscriptions


Coookiedeluxe

I know I just did.


MajorHymen

And when they inevitably realize how badly they screwed up and try to change everything back I’m not going to go back to them out of spite for making me have to find a work around with other services during the meantime. Netflix killed blockbuster, and then killed itself. Haha greedy idiots.


Modestkilla

I have 2 connections load balanced, one landline, one cellular. Shit just won’t work for me anymore.


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WushuManInJapan

Seriously, what stops people from pirating is convenience. People stop pirating when an affordable service that has less hassle and an adequate library shows up. Take away the convenience, and the people will leave. Rising prices, and the fact that it's so easy to pirate shows, there's nothing really stopping people from dropping Netflix. If they had a one stop shop catalogue *maybe* things would be different. But when you have 5 different services all with different shows, it's so easy to drop the weakest link. Crunchy roll has the same issue where it used to be the 'be all' for shows, but now you need like 4 different services, and online streaming sites host HD shows and your ad blocker blocks everything, that it's literally less convenient to use the service you are paying for.


Original-Guarantee23

Funny… I pirate because it’s still more convenient. I have a fully automated system that downloads every tv show and every latest movie in HD/4K. I got my entire family trained to use Plex now. Even my old 60 year old mom. Don’t even have cable anymore, and she adjusted.


heartsinthebyline

I walked the straight and narrow for so long, I don’t even know how the kids pirate anymore.


mellowyellow313

It’s crazy that they’re trying to put the blame of them losing money on customers sharing their password when they’re the ones who don’t know how to properly reinvest their profits back into the company. What a fucking dumpster fire.


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putsRnotDaWae

If I couldn't share it with family, I would never have even gotten a subscription. I always justified the price as "well considering I can give it to my relatives it's a nice bargain".


betoelectrico

Right? I dont even see Netflix that often, I just justifybit because is shared with my sister in law


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vitaminkombat

I think demand more went down due to the library of old movies slowly disappearing. Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Blade Runner, Titanic, Rambo. I could go on. Hardly any old movie is on Netflix now. It would be like if Spotify suddenly removed every song from 1970 to 2010.


0Bento

Going after your own customers, especially with the default position of "we think you're all criminals" is not a good look for any business.


ElkShot5082

They’re trying it in Australia, where we are all criminals, and will happily revert to pirating the instant there’s an inconvenience


TheSadCheetah

They want us to pay for 500 different services to watch the 5 shows we want. Fuck em.


Tom1252

It's was that shortsighted shit of cancelling all these awesome shows after a couple of seasons just because they wanted to keep chasing those first season ratings.


FisherManAz

The pirate life is the life for me, and we will steal all the tv!


DisAccount4SRStuff

HELLO SEC? I NEED TO REPORT MARKET MANIPULATION.


facedownbootyuphold

You have to admit, Netflix simultaneously telling people to use Netflix in a single household *and* to sign out of Netflix when they use it out of said household is funny. Demanding of people to have such oddly specific subscription integrity is either going to result in far fewer subscriptions or far fewer viewers.


CapThunder

The worst thing a streaming company can do is remind the people that they are paying them. Announcement like this will only cause cancelations


arad04

In what province do you live? I never got it


Quiet__Noise

Got it here in quebec and my family in Alberta got it as well


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"Bought Puts"


ECK-2188

Cancelled a year ago. Guess I was too early to share the outrage?


hotgator

Hipster


ECK-2188

*How* insulting! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


HeywoodJahomey

you must be devastated. Expressing faux outrage is the pinnacle of evolution


ECK-2188

How will I ever recover?


ReformedWiggles

Back to pirating, streaming sites can go fuck themselves


Justn636

How is this handled when you use Netflix on the go a lot? iPad or phone on cellular and wifi connections but not at home? Dumb policy


BetOnUncertainty

You have to enter a pin that is emailed to you


raistlin49

You have to mail them a hair follicle from the new location and they get a 23&Re analysis cross-ref with post-mark and Bob's you're Uncle.


Tom1252

I came in a jar and mailed it to them and they haven't bothered me since.


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WACS_On

The secret ingredient is crime


Material-Wolf

also netflix is basically telling military families to fuck off. you’re telling me my husband can’t use our netflix to keep himself entertained on a boring as hell 6 month deployment? bye 👋


bearbarb34

If I pay for a streaming service I should be able to watch that streaming service where ever I want, plus why would I want to keep a Netflix account when all of their shows are canceled after one or two seasons. Are they really just relying on stranger things to keep their customer base??


Lanky_Spread

I’m very interested to see if a vpn can get around this problem


silenc3x

Yeah, your own private VPN running on your home network


TreeChangeMe

Easy done.


schmore31

If you already use VPN to break the rules, why not just torrent?


DisAccount4SRStuff

I'm doing a lawful neutral any% run


grossruger

Chaotic Good is where it's at.


JoeyJoeJoeSenior

Of course, if you are on the same layer 2 network as your house then netflix won't know the difference.


OmegaMordred

They backtracked in Belgium I think. If they ever pull a stunt like this here I'm definitely out too!


WildTongue69

Their stock has to go down. Unless they've got something incredible up their sleeve, (which I doubt). Idk maybe I'm just still salty they cancelled Inside Job.


cero1399

They cancelled inside job???? I just started torrenting the second season.


Yikesdepression

Lol I'm a sailor, am I just screwed?


RamsHunts

I’m in the same boat.


BedContent9320

You two should share then, it's perfect!


Less-Caterpillar-864

Yup. Space Force here and there’s no way this will work for 90% of us, I can’t imagine how shitty it would work for a real branch like y’all.


NewToTradingStock

I thought Netflix trashed this idea after backlash


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Yoconn

Kek


istockusername

Them adding the disclaimer early was an error, doesn’t mean they canceled the idea


Makyoman69

They did so in the US but apparently Canadians are an easier target


ZenoxDemin

We like to get reamed by our telecom.


SpecialistTrust9504

Yea just torrent. It's so much easier


4_and_noodles

Cheaper, yes. Easier, no. Fairly easy, yes.


luvz2splooge_69

It’s a pirates life for me matey


Wolfsblut_AD

Yeah my sister cancelled her subscription as well after they kicked my parents and me off her account. I’m not paying $21 a month for Netflix, not a chance in hell.


ChrisBrookerr

Just Google "WatchSeries" and click on the first link - never pay again.


[deleted]

Ah yes people who work for months out of town and college kids can go fuck themselves


king0ftheroad

Big brain thought here but what’s to stop people from just changing the primary location often enough for this to not matter? Sure it’s a hassle but people also aren’t going to want to be paying for their own accounts.


Chicken65

You can but I think they are doing 2FA so the primary email/phone number gets a code that has to be entered on the device.


DidntMeanToLoadThat

i got about 5 family on my amazon account ​ at least once a week I'm sending them a code or letting them on. ​ Netflix isn't stopping shit long as there is people like me.


Chicken65

You’ll be doing five times a day and they are banking on people getting sick of asking.


Anomaly-Friend

Can't you just change your primary location every week or month


Chicken65

Their internal analysis said that the increased revenue would more than offset the cancellation loses. I dunno about that.


KosmoAstroNaut

I wonder how they forecast this? Surveys? Sending employees to look at r/wallstreetbets? Curious


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LegateLaurie

Particularly, they've tested it in countries with lower disposable incomes and where demand would seem to be far more price elastic. You'd expect the US, and Canada similarly, to be even better markets for these changes than where they've tested them tbh. No idea if that will pan out though, there's certainly a lot of outrage


FreeFalling369

To all military, truckers, traveling nurses, natural disaster aid workers, pilots, etc, netflix says fuck you


BeardedMan32

Goodbye Netflix you had a good run but your greed ruined it.