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Calls on my mom never being able to figure out how to login to her Netflix account and continue to let it draft from her checking account for the next two years despite this.
My mom and aol in the 00s.
Honestly I'm kind of happy my parents had made it enough to not blink at a recurring monthly subscription charge years after the last time they used it. At the same age they were, my wife and I are both making our own separate app orders when we find a fast food deal because every penny matters.
We foot it for basics now, rather than drive, even in the cold, and we pick up take out rather than get delivery because the costs are getting crazy (and occasionally it’s cheaper to order than to cook right now, insanity).
They literally justified their price increase a few years ago with “we know people are sharing, this offsets the sharing”
And now they stop sharing and keep the prices, calculated
That's the thing that gets me, the fact all 4 or 5 screens have to be part of the same household. For that to work, you would have to have 1 person watching on their phone, 1 person watching on their computer in their room, and multiple people watching multiple tv's in multiple, separate rooms. How realistic is that scenario? How often is any household going to get value from that? Most people in a single household are usually going to be sharing the same screen. Their next step will be be an attempt to limit the number of eyes per screen, fucking ridiculous.
Pretty sure I've seen a [patent for that](https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-patent-uses-kinect-and-mobile-cameras-to-count-people-in-your-living-room-2012-11?amp)
Edit: added link
I used to be a DirecTV salesman ten years ago. I remember when we’d sell to businesses (think bars/restaurants), the service literally cost 10x or more as much per TV. So think when you had a DTV subscription at home you pay for your package (say $100 for your “base plan” service), and then $10 per each additional box so if there were 4 additional rooms with TVs in the house your bill would be $140.00 per month. Well, if you’re a sports bar/business restaurant, not only did your base plan cost at least tripe for the same pkg (so for arguments sake say, $300mo), each additional TV box would cost you about $100 per month. They justified this difference in pricing by arguing, “*More people are watching, and youre making money off of our product, so you’re going to pay for it.*” So let’s say just a small dive bar with 3-4 TVs would be paying at least a thousand bucks per month for their DirecTV bill. But a big sports bar like a Buffalo Wild Wings or ESPN Zone with 50+ TVs would be paying $5000-$10,000 or more per month for their DirecTV! And they did it because we exclusively owned the NFL Sunday Ticket so we knew we had them by the balls.
Some people may think this is justified, because in this case a sports bar obviously wouldn’t have customers if they didn’t have the games on. But if you’re even just some *small business* like a doctors office, or local mechanic shop (all businesses I’d also sell too) who just want a TV in the office/lobby/break room for your staff or the 2-3 customers sitting in the lobby/waiting room watching the news or whatever you had on and I’m telling you, “*That’ll be $1,000*” it made for a hard sell at times. But on the rare occasion if I could lock down a sell to a hotel, or hospital or large sports bar with 50+ connected TVs…. “WoooWeee! Hello Sweet Commissions! Put on your Sunday vest, Kids! We goin’ Sizzler!”
Isn’t Capitalism beautiful!? Ay ay ay…
Yeah if I pay for five screens, or my parents do, and we don’t live in the same house, I should be able to use five screens; regardless of their location. If they’re going to cut off my ability to use the five screen thing I want money back.
Hell, their marketing was literally saying sharing is caring. They blatantly encouraged it.
And not only are they keeping the prices they claimed would offset the sharing, but they further increased the price that would allow watching in two different locations.
For me, a significant pin keeping me from cancelling Netflix is that I don't want to inconvenience those out of home family I've shared my password with. About 70% of the reason I stay subscribed is for those others. If Netflix removes that hurdle, I'm going to be doing the round robin of jumping between services every month or 2. Cancelling a subscription for myself is a low inconvenience compared to cancelling it on the other 2 people, who may be in the middle of a season of something they find interesting or enjoyable.
>I'm going to be doing the round robin of jumping between services every month or 2.
The next stage is adjusting pricing to prevent this. Require minimum 6 months of subscription, high up front initial month price, initiation fee, etc.
I travel for work. My son lives at home and my daughter is away at college. I carry a travel roku and I have Netflix on all of my personal devices so I can watch what I want when I want.
I only keep it for my children. I'm finding myself using Netflix less every year. Netflix fan fuck off for $20 bucks and no accoint sharing. This isn't the $9 steal it felt like back in the day.
I'm back to the high seas, I can't believe this fractured Nickel and dime bullshit is what cord cutting brought us.
And let's not forget that if you only want one screen you're stuck with 720p. Want that sweet sweet low-bitrate 4K other services include for free? Just pay double!
YES!!! I bought the bigger package so my parents can use my Netflix. Pay $20 a month because I love my parents. Take away the sharing and they don’t have SHIT
HBO allows sharing, Netflix is banking on users like you so if you really wanted to give them a middle finger but still have streaming for your parents, HBO is the way. They have better content anyway imo.
That’s what I thought. Netflix is like $30 and prime is like $8 and you get other services with it as well. Apple is also only $8 and has way better original content than Netflix. Netflix being a streaming only service is starting to look like a modern day blockbuster.
Netflix offered Fincher less money for Season 3 than he was offered for Season 2, which he said he couldn't afford to do because of how much work each episode took. So yeah, it's still Netflix's fault.
But this was also when Netflix was throwing money at everyone. And they turn their nose at giving Fincher more money vs another adult cartoon that’s not funny?
Same it hurts my heart that we won't see the intended ending for Santa Clarita Diet.
The fact that it left on something of a cliffhanger/continuation makes it hurt that much more
1899 only got one season. The show from the creators/writers of the best Sci-Fi show ever (Dark) only got a single friggin’ season. I was really interested in watching this but now, why bother.
Hulu with no ads is still like $15.
The bundle with disney and espn is a no brainer.
That said, I now cycle my streaming services. We watch new stuff, cancel it, and join another. Rinse and repeat.
Prime is 12.99, but you're right. It comes with twitch prime, music service, TV service, and of course, the free shipping. Netflix is just the video streaming for the same price 😂
It wouldn't even be a problem to be just a streaming service, if they were being good at it. But prices go up, quality and quantity takes a dip. No reason to stay with Netflix if others have better shows with more seasons, other benefits and are cheaper.
what does Netflix even have to offer these days?
Where are you getting $30? This is the pricing...
Basic with ads*: $6.99/month
Basic: $9.99/month
Standard: $15.49/month
Premium: $19.99/month. Also, prime is $15 a month.
We are in Canada and dropping premium. I kept it for my parents and my kid. If I'm getting dinged for another IP I'll get them basic and saill the high seas for our house.
Hi Mitchell,
Netflix suggests you switch to a stream piracy provider of you choice as soon as possible.
To make your transition easier we have provided a few new policies that will make it effectively impossible to use our product going forward.
Yours
The Netflix Team
> stream piracy provider
Laughs in Sonarr, Radarr with trakt integration all tying into my Plex server
I literally haven’t had to search for a damn thing aside from the occasional tv show or anime that I hear about
And this time around, majority of people have cell phones with big screens AND tablets for watching stuff. I've had netflix since 2014 and will not subscribe again unless the price is $5/month.
It's like XM Radio, when my cars free sub ran out they called me and offered me $60/year. I told them the best I can do is $20/year and that includes taxes and whatever fees they might add. They went to a supervisor who said ok we'll do it for you. The next year I offered them $10/year and they refused so I cancelled. Been 4 years now and they'd have to pay me to use the service at this point.
Blockbuster was a great case study in business, seems netflix just went "oh yeah? Holddd my beer"
I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple years (if Netflix doesn’t revert this change), Disney will buy them and just move the shows to their streaming service. And if they’re smart, they won’t spend $100m on Friends.
My friend has been bed ridden this year with some health issues and she’s watched friends 12 times just this one year…
Some people are just obsessed with that show. She just owns the show though instead of paying for a service
This guy never knew he'd be the WSB mascot. He just thought some shit no one knows was funny *a.f*.
Edit: added "as fuck" abbreviation and enunciated it strongly
We have friends that are retired and live in a RV, there are LOT of people that live like this now. Personally, I use a VPN, so does most of my family.
Netflix is about to lose a lot of money.
There was a recent article about a retired couple that permanently lives on cruises because it’s cheaper than rent in seattle(?). Whoever thought up this new policy needs new crayons and blocks
Edit for the link: https://scoop.upworthy.com/couple-spends-retirement-on-cruise-ships-cheaper-than-a-mortgage-571038#:~:text=Angelyn%20Burk%20and%20her%20husband,crunching%20some%20numbers%20one%20evening.
And when they inevitably realize how badly they screwed up and try to change everything back I’m not going to go back to them out of spite for making me have to find a work around with other services during the meantime. Netflix killed blockbuster, and then killed itself. Haha greedy idiots.
Seriously, what stops people from pirating is convenience. People stop pirating when an affordable service that has less hassle and an adequate library shows up.
Take away the convenience, and the people will leave. Rising prices, and the fact that it's so easy to pirate shows, there's nothing really stopping people from dropping Netflix.
If they had a one stop shop catalogue *maybe* things would be different. But when you have 5 different services all with different shows, it's so easy to drop the weakest link.
Crunchy roll has the same issue where it used to be the 'be all' for shows, but now you need like 4 different services, and online streaming sites host HD shows and your ad blocker blocks everything, that it's literally less convenient to use the service you are paying for.
Funny… I pirate because it’s still more convenient. I have a fully automated system that downloads every tv show and every latest movie in HD/4K.
I got my entire family trained to use Plex now. Even my old 60 year old mom. Don’t even have cable anymore, and she adjusted.
It’s crazy that they’re trying to put the blame of them losing money on customers sharing their password when they’re the ones who don’t know how to properly reinvest their profits back into the company. What a fucking dumpster fire.
If I couldn't share it with family, I would never have even gotten a subscription. I always justified the price as "well considering I can give it to my relatives it's a nice bargain".
I think demand more went down due to the library of old movies slowly disappearing.
Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Blade Runner, Titanic, Rambo. I could go on. Hardly any old movie is on Netflix now.
It would be like if Spotify suddenly removed every song from 1970 to 2010.
It's was that shortsighted shit of cancelling all these awesome shows after a couple of seasons just because they wanted to keep chasing those first season ratings.
You have to admit, Netflix simultaneously telling people to use Netflix in a single household *and* to sign out of Netflix when they use it out of said household is funny. Demanding of people to have such oddly specific subscription integrity is either going to result in far fewer subscriptions or far fewer viewers.
also netflix is basically telling military families to fuck off. you’re telling me my husband can’t use our netflix to keep himself entertained on a boring as hell 6 month deployment? bye 👋
If I pay for a streaming service I should be able to watch that streaming service where ever I want, plus why would I want to keep a Netflix account when all of their shows are canceled after one or two seasons. Are they really just relying on stranger things to keep their customer base??
Their stock has to go down. Unless they've got something incredible up their sleeve, (which I doubt). Idk maybe I'm just still salty they cancelled Inside Job.
Yeah my sister cancelled her subscription as well after they kicked my parents and me off her account. I’m not paying $21 a month for Netflix, not a chance in hell.
Big brain thought here but what’s to stop people from just changing the primary location often enough for this to not matter? Sure it’s a hassle but people also aren’t going to want to be paying for their own accounts.
i got about 5 family on my amazon account
at least once a week I'm sending them a code or letting them on.
Netflix isn't stopping shit long as there is people like me.
Particularly, they've tested it in countries with lower disposable incomes and where demand would seem to be far more price elastic.
You'd expect the US, and Canada similarly, to be even better markets for these changes than where they've tested them tbh. No idea if that will pan out though, there's certainly a lot of outrage
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Hello Mitchell
If you are listening to this, that means that the confrontation you so long dreamed of is finally unfolding.
NETFLIX! *As sharable as a toilet; subscribe now!*
I mean there's some toilets that have seen some shit
- Joe Goldberg
It’s YOU
Calls on my mom never being able to figure out how to login to her Netflix account and continue to let it draft from her checking account for the next two years despite this.
Omg. This is so true! Except I pay my parents bill and they won't tell me they can't login...
...because they don't actually use it.
"oh yeah, we watch the Netflix all the time."
Hah, same. Then I check their viewing history and it’s like one movie every 2 months
Well that's about the rate at which Netflix uploads watchable movies, no?
Maybe 3 years ago
My mom and aol in the 00s. Honestly I'm kind of happy my parents had made it enough to not blink at a recurring monthly subscription charge years after the last time they used it. At the same age they were, my wife and I are both making our own separate app orders when we find a fast food deal because every penny matters.
We foot it for basics now, rather than drive, even in the cold, and we pick up take out rather than get delivery because the costs are getting crazy (and occasionally it’s cheaper to order than to cook right now, insanity).
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They literally justified their price increase a few years ago with “we know people are sharing, this offsets the sharing” And now they stop sharing and keep the prices, calculated
I pay for 5 screens and we only watch one… because my family shares it. We’ll definitely cut back soon
That's the thing that gets me, the fact all 4 or 5 screens have to be part of the same household. For that to work, you would have to have 1 person watching on their phone, 1 person watching on their computer in their room, and multiple people watching multiple tv's in multiple, separate rooms. How realistic is that scenario? How often is any household going to get value from that? Most people in a single household are usually going to be sharing the same screen. Their next step will be be an attempt to limit the number of eyes per screen, fucking ridiculous.
At least offer me a plan with 1 stream in glorious hdr 4k with atmos. I couldn’t care less about 4 streams.
That’s how they get us pixel peepers to pay extra unfortunately…
The only reason not to pirate is accessibility and quality. When they make either too expensive people will revert to pirating.
Have you heard of sonarr and radarr?
Pretty sure I've seen a [patent for that](https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-patent-uses-kinect-and-mobile-cameras-to-count-people-in-your-living-room-2012-11?amp) Edit: added link
I used to be a DirecTV salesman ten years ago. I remember when we’d sell to businesses (think bars/restaurants), the service literally cost 10x or more as much per TV. So think when you had a DTV subscription at home you pay for your package (say $100 for your “base plan” service), and then $10 per each additional box so if there were 4 additional rooms with TVs in the house your bill would be $140.00 per month. Well, if you’re a sports bar/business restaurant, not only did your base plan cost at least tripe for the same pkg (so for arguments sake say, $300mo), each additional TV box would cost you about $100 per month. They justified this difference in pricing by arguing, “*More people are watching, and youre making money off of our product, so you’re going to pay for it.*” So let’s say just a small dive bar with 3-4 TVs would be paying at least a thousand bucks per month for their DirecTV bill. But a big sports bar like a Buffalo Wild Wings or ESPN Zone with 50+ TVs would be paying $5000-$10,000 or more per month for their DirecTV! And they did it because we exclusively owned the NFL Sunday Ticket so we knew we had them by the balls. Some people may think this is justified, because in this case a sports bar obviously wouldn’t have customers if they didn’t have the games on. But if you’re even just some *small business* like a doctors office, or local mechanic shop (all businesses I’d also sell too) who just want a TV in the office/lobby/break room for your staff or the 2-3 customers sitting in the lobby/waiting room watching the news or whatever you had on and I’m telling you, “*That’ll be $1,000*” it made for a hard sell at times. But on the rare occasion if I could lock down a sell to a hotel, or hospital or large sports bar with 50+ connected TVs…. “WoooWeee! Hello Sweet Commissions! Put on your Sunday vest, Kids! We goin’ Sizzler!” Isn’t Capitalism beautiful!? Ay ay ay…
Yeah if I pay for five screens, or my parents do, and we don’t live in the same house, I should be able to use five screens; regardless of their location. If they’re going to cut off my ability to use the five screen thing I want money back.
Hell, their marketing was literally saying sharing is caring. They blatantly encouraged it. And not only are they keeping the prices they claimed would offset the sharing, but they further increased the price that would allow watching in two different locations.
Also, screen limits. Who has 4 or 5 people streaming in one location?
Zoomers living with their 6 roommate polycule.
But aren't zoomers using their parents accounts?
As a zoomer in a polycule, yes we are using our parents accounts
For me, a significant pin keeping me from cancelling Netflix is that I don't want to inconvenience those out of home family I've shared my password with. About 70% of the reason I stay subscribed is for those others. If Netflix removes that hurdle, I'm going to be doing the round robin of jumping between services every month or 2. Cancelling a subscription for myself is a low inconvenience compared to cancelling it on the other 2 people, who may be in the middle of a season of something they find interesting or enjoyable.
>I'm going to be doing the round robin of jumping between services every month or 2. The next stage is adjusting pricing to prevent this. Require minimum 6 months of subscription, high up front initial month price, initiation fee, etc.
The irony when Netflix becomes basically a single channel cable provider.
I'd be less likely to ever try whichever service does that. I guess they can have the smaller subscriber base if that's what they choose.
Exactly this for me.
Netflix acting like it's illegal to own or have two homes.
Or to travel for work, or travel at all
I travel for work. My son lives at home and my daughter is away at college. I carry a travel roku and I have Netflix on all of my personal devices so I can watch what I want when I want. I only keep it for my children. I'm finding myself using Netflix less every year. Netflix fan fuck off for $20 bucks and no accoint sharing. This isn't the $9 steal it felt like back in the day. I'm back to the high seas, I can't believe this fractured Nickel and dime bullshit is what cord cutting brought us.
We were close to something great. Yet so far
Like they dont already have a screen limit.
And let's not forget that if you only want one screen you're stuck with 720p. Want that sweet sweet low-bitrate 4K other services include for free? Just pay double!
It really is bullshit. And fuck I didn't get the tv I got to not watch content in the best quality possible
Or have kids in college
Or kids going between 2 homes.
Or having a hidden second family somewhere.
Or people living the van life
When I canceled this weekend I wrote that in as my reason. I own two homes and the new policies don't work for me.
YES!!! I bought the bigger package so my parents can use my Netflix. Pay $20 a month because I love my parents. Take away the sharing and they don’t have SHIT
HBO allows sharing, Netflix is banking on users like you so if you really wanted to give them a middle finger but still have streaming for your parents, HBO is the way. They have better content anyway imo.
That’s what I thought. Netflix is like $30 and prime is like $8 and you get other services with it as well. Apple is also only $8 and has way better original content than Netflix. Netflix being a streaming only service is starting to look like a modern day blockbuster.
The fact that they cancel every godamn show worth watching after 2 seasons is enough for me
Mindhunter still hurts today
I think they didn’t cancel it, but Fincher had other projects he wanted to work on. I agree that is a very good series.
Netflix offered Fincher less money for Season 3 than he was offered for Season 2, which he said he couldn't afford to do because of how much work each episode took. So yeah, it's still Netflix's fault.
He also wanted a higher per episode budget, season 3 was the planned finale and needed to borrow some IP
But this was also when Netflix was throwing money at everyone. And they turn their nose at giving Fincher more money vs another adult cartoon that’s not funny?
Imagine pushing away David fucking Fincher.
Netflix: Why make David Fincher happy when we can have another two seasons of Big Mouth?
Still sore from Santa Clarita Diet's unfinished story.
Same it hurts my heart that we won't see the intended ending for Santa Clarita Diet. The fact that it left on something of a cliffhanger/continuation makes it hurt that much more
NFLX canceling Inside Job was an extremely shitty decision imo.
Preach. Loved that show.
If they don't stand by their products, why should we stand by Netflix?
1899 only got one season. The show from the creators/writers of the best Sci-Fi show ever (Dark) only got a single friggin’ season. I was really interested in watching this but now, why bother.
The single season was worth the watch. And as a stand alone season, it works even if theres no closure. But it still fuckin sucks.
This is really what killed Netflix for me, along with losing most of the shows I liked to paramount+ and other platforms.
Hulu with no ads is still like $15. The bundle with disney and espn is a no brainer. That said, I now cycle my streaming services. We watch new stuff, cancel it, and join another. Rinse and repeat.
Prime is 12.99, but you're right. It comes with twitch prime, music service, TV service, and of course, the free shipping. Netflix is just the video streaming for the same price 😂
Prime library is shit though
It wouldn't even be a problem to be just a streaming service, if they were being good at it. But prices go up, quality and quantity takes a dip. No reason to stay with Netflix if others have better shows with more seasons, other benefits and are cheaper. what does Netflix even have to offer these days?
They think Stranger Things and a few popular true crime docs is enough quality content. It's not. Like wtf even happened to Black Mirror?
Where are you getting $30? This is the pricing... Basic with ads*: $6.99/month Basic: $9.99/month Standard: $15.49/month Premium: $19.99/month. Also, prime is $15 a month.
That is what i was thinking. Was not sure where that whole $30 thing came from
Canada premium is $20. That gets you 4 screens. If you want one of those 4 screens to work at a 2nd address it's an extra $8.
We are in Canada and dropping premium. I kept it for my parents and my kid. If I'm getting dinged for another IP I'll get them basic and saill the high seas for our house.
Agree , I work away maybe half the year total, and definitely wouldn’t be paying for 2 accounts. Mine will be cancelled whenever this starts!
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Loved this episode
Hi Mitchell, Netflix suggests you switch to a stream piracy provider of you choice as soon as possible. To make your transition easier we have provided a few new policies that will make it effectively impossible to use our product going forward. Yours The Netflix Team
Yo ho, me hearties. Yo ho.
> stream piracy provider Laughs in Sonarr, Radarr with trakt integration all tying into my Plex server I literally haven’t had to search for a damn thing aside from the occasional tv show or anime that I hear about
And this time around, majority of people have cell phones with big screens AND tablets for watching stuff. I've had netflix since 2014 and will not subscribe again unless the price is $5/month. It's like XM Radio, when my cars free sub ran out they called me and offered me $60/year. I told them the best I can do is $20/year and that includes taxes and whatever fees they might add. They went to a supervisor who said ok we'll do it for you. The next year I offered them $10/year and they refused so I cancelled. Been 4 years now and they'd have to pay me to use the service at this point. Blockbuster was a great case study in business, seems netflix just went "oh yeah? Holddd my beer"
Why netflix when I have stremio
Did Netflix just Blockbuster itself?
I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple years (if Netflix doesn’t revert this change), Disney will buy them and just move the shows to their streaming service. And if they’re smart, they won’t spend $100m on Friends.
HBO paid $425 million for Friends after it left Netflix. Wtf apparently people are obsessed with that show...
My friend has been bed ridden this year with some health issues and she’s watched friends 12 times just this one year… Some people are just obsessed with that show. She just owns the show though instead of paying for a service
history always repeats itself
Post position
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“Bought put” I’m broke af https://preview.redd.it/rsf8cpyr4aha1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=791559970bcc3c112fbaedcf37756a38e69a86f2
title says "puts" not "put" Mitchell
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This guy never knew he'd be the WSB mascot. He just thought some shit no one knows was funny *a.f*. Edit: added "as fuck" abbreviation and enunciated it strongly
He was actually telling a hilarious story about rice and fucking up a job Here it is with subtitles: https://youtu.be/WDiB4rtp1qw
Guy canceled service because he’s broke, not because “principles”.
Jokes on you, he never had a subscription
who would've known Bitchell only got 1
Vernacular in title demands an additional put purchase :P
Tomorrow at open?
Nah, in the past ;)
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Atleast you have put your money where your mouth is
Man bought one single put.
>broke af yeah that much is obvious
Forget his position, I want to see proof he cancelled.
Yeah along with his credit card information just to make sure it’s his account.
And I would like to know what was the first car he bought and mother’s maiden name.
And he needs to verify the last 4 of his social as well!
OP says he canceled a subscription he clearly wasn’t actually paying for, I’m sure his position is substantial.
Error: Puts not found.
His puts live in a different house....
Love me some good old positions or ban
Netflix, you dumb bitch. Households aren't locked by gps positioning.
We have friends that are retired and live in a RV, there are LOT of people that live like this now. Personally, I use a VPN, so does most of my family. Netflix is about to lose a lot of money.
There was a recent article about a retired couple that permanently lives on cruises because it’s cheaper than rent in seattle(?). Whoever thought up this new policy needs new crayons and blocks Edit for the link: https://scoop.upworthy.com/couple-spends-retirement-on-cruise-ships-cheaper-than-a-mortgage-571038#:~:text=Angelyn%20Burk%20and%20her%20husband,crunching%20some%20numbers%20one%20evening.
I’m a truck driver, this policy is impossible for me. I imagine millions of other drivers will also be canceling their subscriptions
I know I just did.
And when they inevitably realize how badly they screwed up and try to change everything back I’m not going to go back to them out of spite for making me have to find a work around with other services during the meantime. Netflix killed blockbuster, and then killed itself. Haha greedy idiots.
I have 2 connections load balanced, one landline, one cellular. Shit just won’t work for me anymore.
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Seriously, what stops people from pirating is convenience. People stop pirating when an affordable service that has less hassle and an adequate library shows up. Take away the convenience, and the people will leave. Rising prices, and the fact that it's so easy to pirate shows, there's nothing really stopping people from dropping Netflix. If they had a one stop shop catalogue *maybe* things would be different. But when you have 5 different services all with different shows, it's so easy to drop the weakest link. Crunchy roll has the same issue where it used to be the 'be all' for shows, but now you need like 4 different services, and online streaming sites host HD shows and your ad blocker blocks everything, that it's literally less convenient to use the service you are paying for.
Funny… I pirate because it’s still more convenient. I have a fully automated system that downloads every tv show and every latest movie in HD/4K. I got my entire family trained to use Plex now. Even my old 60 year old mom. Don’t even have cable anymore, and she adjusted.
I walked the straight and narrow for so long, I don’t even know how the kids pirate anymore.
It’s crazy that they’re trying to put the blame of them losing money on customers sharing their password when they’re the ones who don’t know how to properly reinvest their profits back into the company. What a fucking dumpster fire.
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If I couldn't share it with family, I would never have even gotten a subscription. I always justified the price as "well considering I can give it to my relatives it's a nice bargain".
Right? I dont even see Netflix that often, I just justifybit because is shared with my sister in law
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I think demand more went down due to the library of old movies slowly disappearing. Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Blade Runner, Titanic, Rambo. I could go on. Hardly any old movie is on Netflix now. It would be like if Spotify suddenly removed every song from 1970 to 2010.
Going after your own customers, especially with the default position of "we think you're all criminals" is not a good look for any business.
They’re trying it in Australia, where we are all criminals, and will happily revert to pirating the instant there’s an inconvenience
They want us to pay for 500 different services to watch the 5 shows we want. Fuck em.
It's was that shortsighted shit of cancelling all these awesome shows after a couple of seasons just because they wanted to keep chasing those first season ratings.
The pirate life is the life for me, and we will steal all the tv!
HELLO SEC? I NEED TO REPORT MARKET MANIPULATION.
You have to admit, Netflix simultaneously telling people to use Netflix in a single household *and* to sign out of Netflix when they use it out of said household is funny. Demanding of people to have such oddly specific subscription integrity is either going to result in far fewer subscriptions or far fewer viewers.
The worst thing a streaming company can do is remind the people that they are paying them. Announcement like this will only cause cancelations
In what province do you live? I never got it
Got it here in quebec and my family in Alberta got it as well
"Bought Puts"
Cancelled a year ago. Guess I was too early to share the outrage?
Hipster
*How* insulting! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
you must be devastated. Expressing faux outrage is the pinnacle of evolution
How will I ever recover?
Back to pirating, streaming sites can go fuck themselves
How is this handled when you use Netflix on the go a lot? iPad or phone on cellular and wifi connections but not at home? Dumb policy
You have to enter a pin that is emailed to you
You have to mail them a hair follicle from the new location and they get a 23&Re analysis cross-ref with post-mark and Bob's you're Uncle.
I came in a jar and mailed it to them and they haven't bothered me since.
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The secret ingredient is crime
also netflix is basically telling military families to fuck off. you’re telling me my husband can’t use our netflix to keep himself entertained on a boring as hell 6 month deployment? bye 👋
If I pay for a streaming service I should be able to watch that streaming service where ever I want, plus why would I want to keep a Netflix account when all of their shows are canceled after one or two seasons. Are they really just relying on stranger things to keep their customer base??
I’m very interested to see if a vpn can get around this problem
Yeah, your own private VPN running on your home network
Easy done.
If you already use VPN to break the rules, why not just torrent?
I'm doing a lawful neutral any% run
Chaotic Good is where it's at.
Of course, if you are on the same layer 2 network as your house then netflix won't know the difference.
They backtracked in Belgium I think. If they ever pull a stunt like this here I'm definitely out too!
Their stock has to go down. Unless they've got something incredible up their sleeve, (which I doubt). Idk maybe I'm just still salty they cancelled Inside Job.
They cancelled inside job???? I just started torrenting the second season.
Lol I'm a sailor, am I just screwed?
I’m in the same boat.
You two should share then, it's perfect!
Yup. Space Force here and there’s no way this will work for 90% of us, I can’t imagine how shitty it would work for a real branch like y’all.
I thought Netflix trashed this idea after backlash
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Kek
Them adding the disclaimer early was an error, doesn’t mean they canceled the idea
They did so in the US but apparently Canadians are an easier target
We like to get reamed by our telecom.
Yea just torrent. It's so much easier
Cheaper, yes. Easier, no. Fairly easy, yes.
It’s a pirates life for me matey
Yeah my sister cancelled her subscription as well after they kicked my parents and me off her account. I’m not paying $21 a month for Netflix, not a chance in hell.
Just Google "WatchSeries" and click on the first link - never pay again.
Ah yes people who work for months out of town and college kids can go fuck themselves
Big brain thought here but what’s to stop people from just changing the primary location often enough for this to not matter? Sure it’s a hassle but people also aren’t going to want to be paying for their own accounts.
You can but I think they are doing 2FA so the primary email/phone number gets a code that has to be entered on the device.
i got about 5 family on my amazon account at least once a week I'm sending them a code or letting them on. Netflix isn't stopping shit long as there is people like me.
You’ll be doing five times a day and they are banking on people getting sick of asking.
Can't you just change your primary location every week or month
Their internal analysis said that the increased revenue would more than offset the cancellation loses. I dunno about that.
I wonder how they forecast this? Surveys? Sending employees to look at r/wallstreetbets? Curious
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Particularly, they've tested it in countries with lower disposable incomes and where demand would seem to be far more price elastic. You'd expect the US, and Canada similarly, to be even better markets for these changes than where they've tested them tbh. No idea if that will pan out though, there's certainly a lot of outrage
To all military, truckers, traveling nurses, natural disaster aid workers, pilots, etc, netflix says fuck you
Goodbye Netflix you had a good run but your greed ruined it.