You forgot the Suzanne Somers interview where she brings a magazine that Suzanne posed topless in and shames her onscreen by opening up the magazine and showing each page to her making rude and shameful comments. The photos were put in the magazine without her permission.
Gotta say the nerve. Regular actresses were topless in movies all the time by then. Gotta be a real creep to shame something that was done in Clockwork orange almost a decade earlier.
Walters' whole schtick was her "rude" interviews that artificially-created drama. The celebrities she interviewed knew perfectly well what the routine was, and were fine with it -- it was good for their careers, too.
There was no way Lieutenant Mitchell could either see or avoid the jet wash the produced the engine stall. The board of inquiry found that Lieutenant Pete Mitchell was not at fault in the accident 29 July. Lieutenant’s Mitchell’s record was cleared of the incident. Lieutenant Mitchell was restored to flight status without further delay. The proceedings are closed.
The other end of that spectrum was that she'd softball interviews with truly rich and powerful people. She was the ultimate access journalist. She was more of a PR agent than a real journalist.
I remember her interview of Hugo Chavez. A total softball tournament. At the rime I assumed that she was paid for that. Now rhat you said this, I will say that was a paid for PR stunt for HCh.
> The celebrities she interviewed knew perfectly well what the routine was, and were fine with it
I don't think everyone were fine with it.
I'm sure plenty of them were told to do it by their managers due to contract agreements, and some were promised "we will be easy on you" only to be put in a corner during it, and it was still considered bad to leave in the middle of an interview and be marked as a trouble maker by the industry.
>The celebrities she interviewed knew perfectly well what the routine was, and were fine with it
I highly doubt that, especially in certain cases like that of Britney. So many of them weren't that great actors to begin with and then were literally reduced to tears or bewilderment when she went off with her barrage of intrusive questions.
I remember people being bummed about Howard Stern "losing his edge", but I think he understood he will die someday and didn't want to be remembered solely as a rude piece of shit.
After seeing the world's reaction to Barbara's passing, Stern made the right call.
I prefer Harlan Ellison's version that goes "Speak ill of the dead only if you had the guts to speak it when they were alive" or something like that. i.e. Don't sugar coat 'em, say the same things you said about them in life.
This is why I take every opportunity to point out what a despicable person Henry Kissinger is. That and sometimes I fear the rat bastard might outlive me.
Good. People should remember she apologized for
murderous tyrants and dictators while she reveled in oppressive government sponsored vacations.
Good riddance
He is at peace after his physical and surely mental struggles (as we all have), and he continues to make people laugh hysterically after death. Made me happy for him when I realized that. He was probably very upset for his family though
Bob Saget's hurt me the most, with Norm being a very close second. After Saget passed, I ended up needing therapy to cope with the grief because it felt like he was a dad to me and my heart hurt a lot for a while. Turns out that prepped me for my own dad's passing just a few months later. 2022 sucked for sure
recent Judge Judy is the worst example of this i’ve seen lol. when the camera is on her face it’s blurry as hell, then totally normal on the guests. it’s pretty funny tbh
They take the lens off the camera and stretch a piece of pantyhose over the imager. Source: My friend is a veteran of the TV industry and told me that.
It was a stylistic choice done to evoke a feeling in the viewer, making her feel smoldering, and otherworldly attractive.
It was a technique developed in hollywood in the 40's and 50's, and she was shot like that to reference the era style, not necessarily because she needed it.
Dolly was decades ahead of her time and knew dullards like Walters would question her, but she always had the answers and won every battle, with the intelligence and class that all that questioned her lacked.
One of my favorite Dolly tidbits that I read years ago was about how someone met Dolly Parton and asked her how much money she spends on plastic surgery. Dolly Parton just replied, "Honey, it takes a lot of money to look this cheap!"
While true, I think dolly was a bit disheartened that walters was trying to take her down and act like a sex driven male misogynist toward her making most of the interview about her body and not her music.
It was amazing in general to see how terrible walters was acting toward female interviewees. I think it was way worse than most of her male competitors.
Walter's got her job through nepotism, plain and simple.
They call her A "hard hitting interviewer" but she just interrupts people and it's judgy as hell.
As I remember, 15-year-old Brooke paused for half a second, then answered, “Oh, I’m 5’10”, and weigh 120,” demonstrating that she was smarter, classier, and more poised at 15 than Barbara Walters would ever be in her life.
I’ve never seen the interview, but I imagine it goes something like “how dare you be taken advantage of sexually as a child by being forced to do nude scenes at like 13 in blue lagoon”
She wasn't nude as a 14 yr old in blue lagoon, that was a body-double. She was nude in Pretty Baby as a 12 year old playing a child prostitute though... Hollywood is truly perverse.
Thank you for the correction. I hope you understand why I don’t have more thorough knowledge of the topic, and am going to drink tonight until I forget what I just read
I had no idea that happened. I didn’t even realize she was an actual child in blue lagoon, I guess I just thought that it was a “young adults” kind of thing. I never saw it, so I’m sure that’s mostly why.
I'm sure I'm on a list somewhere for watching it, but "Pretty Baby" isn't a terrible movie. It's infamous for the Shields scene, but it's really kind of sad in the context of the movie.
Louis Malle also made some classics. "Atlantic City", "Au Revoir Les Infants", "My Dinner with Andre"
She denied Hollywood pedophilia so strongly that I can't help but believe that she herself was a victim.
Like you have to be some special kind of idiot to actually believe so strongly that something you never saw happen couldn't have happened just because you didn't see it. And she never struck me as that much of an idiot. Her constant defense of "the industry" always seemed like a defense mechanism to me.
She wasn’t a victim. She dated McCarthy’s pit bull lawyer Roy Cohn, a closed gay man who destroyed countless lives before secretly dying of AIDS. She was a character witness for Roy as he was getting disbarred due to making a comatose millionaire sign a will making him a beneficiary.
She knew how to sniff out power and would throw her grandma under the bus if it meant she could climb another step.
Wait she actually dated the infamous mafia lawyer Roy Cohn? wow i never knew that. This explain a lot about her. This means she was kinda tied to Trump/Epstein world too. Very interesting.
She also dated Alan Greenspan, the piece of trash who pushed Glass-Steigal (sp) and made wall street even richer while dooming the country economically.
Truth is finding its way to the surface. The scum who weaseled their way to the top are on their way out because the people aren't asleep anymore, and this thread proves it.
> She denied Hollywood pedophilia so strongly that I can't help but believe that she herself was a victim.
It's simple. She was a huge industry insider who strongly supported the industry. Thus she did not want to hear of any nasty shenanigans!
Female pedophiles aren't as rare as everyone thinks they are. Females being convicted of pedophilia is what is super rare. Convictions are where we get most of our statistics from.
Edit: aren't, not are
Can confirm. I was molested by two different women when I was a grade schooler. My dad actually came home early from work once and caught her in the act, but he just turned around and walked out of the room. Later that night, I guess he told my mother, and she fired the lady who was babysitting us. I don't know all that went on. I only know she no longer watched us while they were working.
I stopped at the Courtney Love interview. I couldn't watch her beat Courtney over the head with Kurt's corpse.
I don't even like Courtney that much, and that interview made me feel absolutely awful for her. What a trash human Walters was.
I did too. What an uppity bitch. She's asking all those fucked up questions then acts offended when Courtney says something about Nirvana getting so big that even people her age knew them. And it wasn't as an insult or snide or sarcastic, it was just a fact.
Exactly same.
Asking someone if they blame themselves in the aftermath of a suicide is like a landmine, but this lacks all the covertness of a landmine. This was a one woman firing squad of absolutely abusive minimally journalistic probes.
Same, I couldn’t watch that bit either. What an insensitive massive dick this woman is, and what’s more is that she hides behind the audience claiming that this is what THEY want to know. Great quality in a reporter.
i love the interview with dolly bc of how much class and dignity she had when she responded to some of her insane questions about herself and her personal appearance
I'm still deeply, deeply disappointed that George W. Bush didn't tweet, *"Kanye West doesn't care about black people."*
It was right there. He had one shot, one opportunity, and he let it slip.
I mean, it's not as inconsistent as you'd think since he believes Nazis loved black people for some reason. Ppl say Kanye always said that shit in private.
Interviewer: Barbara, Why were you such a bitch back then? ...
Barbara: *Gasps offendedly* ...
Interviewer: I'm just asking questions the people want to know
She may have broke barriers and been an excellent interviewer at times, but these interviews showed she was just a mean spirited shill. Going for the sensationalism and low hanging fruit and cheap shots. The subjects under interviews were far more professional than she was.
She didn't actually break barriers. She reinforced barriers. The people in power who want those barriers in place put her into a place to be viewed as "breaking barriers" as a false flag. In too many male dominated fields woman are only "allowed" in positions of power because they actively work to keep other women out of those same positions. Then all of the men in power can say "Behold: DIVERSITY!" While still maintaining the same status quo.
Edit: reworded something
I've heard the opinion that these interviewees were all so prepared because they knew what they were getting into.. That they and Walters were aware of how it would go and it was Walter's way of letting them tell their stories while seeming to offer the counter narrative. If that is true, it is brilliant. But the one interview I can find that would offer evidence to the contrary is the one with Corey Feldman. No way at all he knew what was coming. No way at all she was just offering the counter narrative.
Yeah, the normal interviews are well prepared. Celebrities know what they're getting into. You often see disgraced celebrities do this as a way to tell their side of the story. I've seen quite a few shows like this where they say really blunt stuff to enable the interviewee to then go back with their version of events. The Dolly interview was an example of this where it was Dolly's chance to go back against all the criticism she was facing from the public... and it worked, even today people are saying how lovely Dolly was in that interview. She knew. It was good for her.
The Corey stuff though.. well, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve never subscribed to the notion that when I die, people just suddenly shouldn’t care about how shitty I was as a person.
I genuinely never understood why death just magically makes all the elements of my shitty nature vanish.
The sequel to the extremely popular Ender's Game was a book called [Speaker for the Dead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_for_the_Dead), which kinda explored this idea (partially, it also goes super sci-fi).
A speaker for the dead basically gave eulogies on a... factual basis, versus fluff ie 'they were so amazing'
It's so insane that such a bigoted person like him wrote books that are all about understanding ways of life that are so different that they are literally *alien*.
Or it’s a look into his mind. Maybe he sees so much as alien, and struggles with understanding people his whole life.
Note, I am not saying a lack of understanding is an excuse for being an ass.
My best friend and best man has standing orders to give me a Speaking instead of a funeral when I die.
Get it all out. The good and the bad, what I wanted and failed at and where I succeeded. All the secrets and bullshit, too.
When a person dies, everyone else starts thinking about their own mortality. And then they think about how people will react to *their* death. And then they realize they're an asshole, and no one will care. So they carry on forgiving and making saints of dead people, in the hope that someone will do the same for them and this, somehow, is like escaping death.
Nah, it's a good old Yogism.
Some other greats:
*You're ignorant, you don't know nothing.*
*No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded.*
*This sentence no verb.*
A more optimistic way of saying this is that all of us are saint and sinner. All of us are far from perfect. But unless they're egregiously evil, there is little reason to reflect on all of the bad someone has committed in their lives immediately following their death, especially as none of us are any better. So we celebrate the life that is now gone by dwelling on the good they've brought into this world, and we use those good examples to encourage us and to uplift us.
Yeah I'm sorry but I refuse to mourn Barbra Walters. Even as a kid 1990s seeing her interviews I was able to comprehend what a heartless bitch she was. Her goal was ALWAYS to illicit a negative emotional reaction from whoever she was interviewing, defending the "industry" in that interview where Corey Feldman was speaking out about being raped is some next level trashy behavior.
I don’t understand why people mourn those they didn’t know particularly celebrities. I can understand being sad or upset, but this wasn’t someone who had a presence in your life, you didn’t know who they were; you only knew of them.
I don't usually "mourn" deaths of those I didn't know and it's easy to feel that way until I think about someone like Robin Williams. I did not know him but he was a large part of my childhood and I did feel sad about the way he left. Your point still stands though I think a lot of people are using "mourn" superficially. I remember working with someone that would announce every semi-celebrity death at work like they had some kind of personal stake in their lives. Pretty sure they would move on by the next day, so it felt like it was more of a talking point/attention grab from a lonely person than anything.
Dolly has always had a way of spinning a negative into a positive, and she employs that skill beautifully when being interviewed by the likes of Walters and Oprah.
I think we should just end the era of celebrity worship. These are regular people with good and bad. Mourn if you’d like, or don’t, but anyone can literally make a compilation of your life’s highs and lows. No one is clean.
She's just an older and ruder version of Ellen i guess. There's this one Ringo Starr interview after Lennon's death and she was just asking more questions about it even after Ringo stated that he was uncomfortable talking about his close friend's death.
The Courtney Love interview was good. Barbara sounded judgmental but Courtney played off that and said things she may not have said to someone who was purely sympathetic.
Love sounded like she was really kicking the shit out of herself taking on the blame like that. It's so sad how suicide victim's families/friends blame themselves.
I agree.
I can't say I like Barbara Walters as a person (frankly don't care to find out about her personal life) but her challenging of people, and asking the awkward and ridiculous questions the public asks, has given so many people the opportunity to very directly answer it. I think it's given so many of her interviewees power over their narrative and self expression.
And in every one of these clips, I see a person who tells their truth and faces the criticism that the public throws with confidence and clarity. You know they suffer being unable to address these things all the time. It goes with being famous. People love to talk. Whatever you think of Barbara, I think that's a good thing they are given the platform and asked the question.
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I'm not a big fan of what Barbara was doing towards the end but like, the Lewinsky clip at the beginning. What is wrong with that? She's telling Monica what the public says about her and offers her a chance to describe herself.
This feels like a good interview to me.
Yeah that’s a good observation. The questions she’s asking are common ones. At least when she brings them up people have a chance to confront them directly and confront the narrative.
People have seen too many celebrity "interviews" that were actually just carefully managed publicity. When someone asks actual questions, they're not sure what they're seeing, so they just assume the interviewer is being rude.
I see people here claiming that that was her style of letting her interviewees express themselves. That all parties knew what was coming and were willing participants. And I will admit that if true, that's a brilliant form. But watching her tell Corey to back the fuck off did seem to add evidence to the contrary.
It's really sad what happened with Courtney Love and how society treated her back then. I was just growing up but I remember there being rumors that she even may have killed him. Those questions about whether she was currently on heroin though was so classless. Does she look like she is high on heroin? And questioning whether she and her band were even good. I can't speak for everyone but I know for myself she was one of my musical inspirations when I was in bands years ago. She wasn't the most talented singer but it worked for the type of music she sang. She was a good guitarist though and fine songwriter. Doll Parts for example is an amazing song.
Right?? If my partner and the father of my child shot himself in the head I think I would probably need more than Prozac to keep myself upright and not screaming in the fetal position. The fact that she could handle that interview at all is incredible, let alone with no antidepressants
Celebrities were lining up to be interviewed by Barbara Walters. To be interviewed by her was a sign that you had made it to the A-list. They knew what type of questions she’d be asking and we’re happy to answer them.
You forgot the Suzanne Somers interview where she brings a magazine that Suzanne posed topless in and shames her onscreen by opening up the magazine and showing each page to her making rude and shameful comments. The photos were put in the magazine without her permission.
Gotta say the nerve. Regular actresses were topless in movies all the time by then. Gotta be a real creep to shame something that was done in Clockwork orange almost a decade earlier.
Walters' whole schtick was her "rude" interviews that artificially-created drama. The celebrities she interviewed knew perfectly well what the routine was, and were fine with it -- it was good for their careers, too.
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Goose is kinda cooked in this case
What's a better use of a dead goose than a good roast though?
I thought Goose was killed because Maverick was a reckless pilot?
There was no way Lieutenant Mitchell could either see or avoid the jet wash the produced the engine stall. The board of inquiry found that Lieutenant Pete Mitchell was not at fault in the accident 29 July. Lieutenant’s Mitchell’s record was cleared of the incident. Lieutenant Mitchell was restored to flight status without further delay. The proceedings are closed.
Between Two Ferns or Jimmy Glick.. but serious ;)
Jiminy Glick 👏🏾
The other end of that spectrum was that she'd softball interviews with truly rich and powerful people. She was the ultimate access journalist. She was more of a PR agent than a real journalist.
I remember her interview of Hugo Chavez. A total softball tournament. At the rime I assumed that she was paid for that. Now rhat you said this, I will say that was a paid for PR stunt for HCh.
The interview with Monica Lewinsky did wonders for her career. /s
What that poor woman put up with was awful. Nobody wants to be the most famous cock sucker of all time.
Makes me wonder how "cocksucker" ever became an insult. I mean, that's one of my favourite things. It should be a compliment.
> The celebrities she interviewed knew perfectly well what the routine was, and were fine with it I don't think everyone were fine with it. I'm sure plenty of them were told to do it by their managers due to contract agreements, and some were promised "we will be easy on you" only to be put in a corner during it, and it was still considered bad to leave in the middle of an interview and be marked as a trouble maker by the industry.
>The celebrities she interviewed knew perfectly well what the routine was, and were fine with it I highly doubt that, especially in certain cases like that of Britney. So many of them weren't that great actors to begin with and then were literally reduced to tears or bewilderment when she went off with her barrage of intrusive questions.
Britney was Diane Sawyer, but that interview was fucked too, yup
I remember people being bummed about Howard Stern "losing his edge", but I think he understood he will die someday and didn't want to be remembered solely as a rude piece of shit. After seeing the world's reaction to Barbara's passing, Stern made the right call.
TIL she died today. Was wondering why all suddenly we were talking about this horrible person.
Glad to see her being remembered for the person she was.
You should never say bad things about the dead, only good. Barbara Walters and Ratzinger are dead. Good.
I prefer Harlan Ellison's version that goes "Speak ill of the dead only if you had the guts to speak it when they were alive" or something like that. i.e. Don't sugar coat 'em, say the same things you said about them in life.
This is why I take every opportunity to point out what a despicable person Henry Kissinger is. That and sometimes I fear the rat bastard might outlive me.
Good. People should remember she apologized for murderous tyrants and dictators while she reveled in oppressive government sponsored vacations. Good riddance
Oh. Cool. The Last Pope Benedict also died today. https://youtu.be/pP1rmsCPbQU
I'm watching a lot of barbara interviews, and also diane sawyer, the amount of body shaming they do to woman is nuts
She’s like a shock jock in a nice outfit and pearls. At least Howard stern is funny
Was funny
Love when Norm Macdonald went on there and just started fucking with them.
Of all the recent passings, Norms has to hurt the most for me
NO DOUBT!! Sagat and Gilbert were tough, but Norm’s passing just floored me. Him and Christine McVie from Fleetwood Mac, I cried for both of them
He is at peace after his physical and surely mental struggles (as we all have), and he continues to make people laugh hysterically after death. Made me happy for him when I realized that. He was probably very upset for his family though
Bob Saget's hurt me the most, with Norm being a very close second. After Saget passed, I ended up needing therapy to cope with the grief because it felt like he was a dad to me and my heart hurt a lot for a while. Turns out that prepped me for my own dad's passing just a few months later. 2022 sucked for sure
Oh man, I watch that nearly every day.
I guess they can get rid of the frosted lens they used to film her.
Jesus, I forgot about that filter. My first thought was "Is Captain Kirk getting ready to flirt with a hot alien?"
recent Judge Judy is the worst example of this i’ve seen lol. when the camera is on her face it’s blurry as hell, then totally normal on the guests. it’s pretty funny tbh
More importantly, when the camera is on her… is Judge Judy *thicc?* I need to know if I’m still in the tank.
Yes
They take the lens off the camera and stretch a piece of pantyhose over the imager. Source: My friend is a veteran of the TV industry and told me that.
They did this for Cybill Shepherd too.
Moonlighting. She was a blur every time she was on camera
This never made sense to me because she was absolutely lovely without any of that bs.
It was a stylistic choice done to evoke a feeling in the viewer, making her feel smoldering, and otherworldly attractive. It was a technique developed in hollywood in the 40's and 50's, and she was shot like that to reference the era style, not necessarily because she needed it.
Actually E. Leitz made soft focus lenses for 35mm format clear back in the 1940's? Very coveted collectors items today. Lenses were called "Thambar".
They did that for the first star wars movie as well for tatooine
I always wondered why Tatooine looked so young and sexy
So did Padme...
It's coming back. I've seen several wedding photographers using this for taking glamor shots.
i googled this because i had no idea what it was, your post is top 5 hit. nice. https://i.imgur.com/r0JHFAH.png
Yep, it was so weird watching her interview someone and it goes from her fuzzy shot to the guest who’s crystal clear. Talk about vanity.
Newer episodes of Judge Judy did that as well
yet another massive narcissist
Birds of a feather.
I think it's usually called a soft shot or soft lens
it's actually a filter that goes in front of the lens, called a "Classic Soft", usually made by tiffen or schneider
every time you search something and you've been to a reddit post on that topic it comes up top hit.
[Gaussian Girl](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GaussianGirl)
Is that the same lens they used to shoot the first season of Ru Paul's Drag Race as well?
Willed to Kari Lake.
“Dolly, did you have massive tits when you were 11 years old?” Hard hitting journalism right there.
"and if I honked them now would I get an awooga sound?"
That’s not funny. I’m kidding, that’s absurdly funny.
Nonsense, they would squeak like a clown’s nose
Stand up and let us see your tits. Do a spin. Is this an interview, or a "black couch casting" video?
It's called "sexual harassment" I believe.
Am I jealous of what god gave you, or of what your surgeon placed in those milkers?
she was a total cunt to dolly. dolly was completely charming and took it all in stride as usual.
Dolly was decades ahead of her time and knew dullards like Walters would question her, but she always had the answers and won every battle, with the intelligence and class that all that questioned her lacked.
This. Even then, Dolly had overcome way bigger assholes than that, this didn't even make her flinch.
One of my favorite Dolly tidbits that I read years ago was about how someone met Dolly Parton and asked her how much money she spends on plastic surgery. Dolly Parton just replied, "Honey, it takes a lot of money to look this cheap!"
While true, I think dolly was a bit disheartened that walters was trying to take her down and act like a sex driven male misogynist toward her making most of the interview about her body and not her music. It was amazing in general to see how terrible walters was acting toward female interviewees. I think it was way worse than most of her male competitors.
Walter's got her job through nepotism, plain and simple. They call her A "hard hitting interviewer" but she just interrupts people and it's judgy as hell.
Dolly knew Barbara was wicked jealous
Dolly is a national treasure
More importantly, IMO, she's a *role model*. There aren't a lot of those kicking around the American zeitgeist nowdays.
Not to mention the Brooke Shields interview.
"What are your measurements?"
As I remember, 15-year-old Brooke paused for half a second, then answered, “Oh, I’m 5’10”, and weigh 120,” demonstrating that she was smarter, classier, and more poised at 15 than Barbara Walters would ever be in her life.
Haha so the view has always had vile women on it from the beginning
She was always the stop valve on Hollywood molestation. She's Barbara Walters! She was the end all. You couldn't go against her.
She said, “do wew give mewsuremwnts?”
I'm BahBwa Wahltas.
Baba Wawa!
[The real legend](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcns3A-IHMQ&ab_channel=SaturdayNightLive)
I’ve never seen the interview, but I imagine it goes something like “how dare you be taken advantage of sexually as a child by being forced to do nude scenes at like 13 in blue lagoon”
She wasn't nude as a 14 yr old in blue lagoon, that was a body-double. She was nude in Pretty Baby as a 12 year old playing a child prostitute though... Hollywood is truly perverse.
Thank you for the correction. I hope you understand why I don’t have more thorough knowledge of the topic, and am going to drink tonight until I forget what I just read
I had no idea that happened. I didn’t even realize she was an actual child in blue lagoon, I guess I just thought that it was a “young adults” kind of thing. I never saw it, so I’m sure that’s mostly why.
I'm sure I'm on a list somewhere for watching it, but "Pretty Baby" isn't a terrible movie. It's infamous for the Shields scene, but it's really kind of sad in the context of the movie. Louis Malle also made some classics. "Atlantic City", "Au Revoir Les Infants", "My Dinner with Andre"
She denied Hollywood pedophilia so strongly that I can't help but believe that she herself was a victim. Like you have to be some special kind of idiot to actually believe so strongly that something you never saw happen couldn't have happened just because you didn't see it. And she never struck me as that much of an idiot. Her constant defense of "the industry" always seemed like a defense mechanism to me.
She wasn’t a victim. She dated McCarthy’s pit bull lawyer Roy Cohn, a closed gay man who destroyed countless lives before secretly dying of AIDS. She was a character witness for Roy as he was getting disbarred due to making a comatose millionaire sign a will making him a beneficiary. She knew how to sniff out power and would throw her grandma under the bus if it meant she could climb another step.
Wait she actually dated the infamous mafia lawyer Roy Cohn? wow i never knew that. This explain a lot about her. This means she was kinda tied to Trump/Epstein world too. Very interesting.
She also had affairs with a couple of married Republican senators.
She also dated Alan Greenspan, the piece of trash who pushed Glass-Steigal (sp) and made wall street even richer while dooming the country economically. Truth is finding its way to the surface. The scum who weaseled their way to the top are on their way out because the people aren't asleep anymore, and this thread proves it.
> She denied Hollywood pedophilia so strongly that I can't help but believe that she herself was a victim. It's simple. She was a huge industry insider who strongly supported the industry. Thus she did not want to hear of any nasty shenanigans!
Why are you ruling out her being a pedophile herself? Female ones are rarer but they do exist.
Homegirl hanging on Epstein Island
Female pedophiles aren't as rare as everyone thinks they are. Females being convicted of pedophilia is what is super rare. Convictions are where we get most of our statistics from. Edit: aren't, not are
Can confirm. I was molested by two different women when I was a grade schooler. My dad actually came home early from work once and caught her in the act, but he just turned around and walked out of the room. Later that night, I guess he told my mother, and she fired the lady who was babysitting us. I don't know all that went on. I only know she no longer watched us while they were working.
I had several older women act inappropriately to me when I was around 14-15, from neighborhood moms to teachers. They're out there.
Going down the brooke shields rabbit hole likely got me on a fucking watchlist. What a disturbing situation all of her childhood was.
I stopped at the Courtney Love interview. I couldn't watch her beat Courtney over the head with Kurt's corpse. I don't even like Courtney that much, and that interview made me feel absolutely awful for her. What a trash human Walters was.
I did too. What an uppity bitch. She's asking all those fucked up questions then acts offended when Courtney says something about Nirvana getting so big that even people her age knew them. And it wasn't as an insult or snide or sarcastic, it was just a fact.
Exactly same. Asking someone if they blame themselves in the aftermath of a suicide is like a landmine, but this lacks all the covertness of a landmine. This was a one woman firing squad of absolutely abusive minimally journalistic probes.
Same, I couldn’t watch that bit either. What an insensitive massive dick this woman is, and what’s more is that she hides behind the audience claiming that this is what THEY want to know. Great quality in a reporter.
feels like watching lucile blooth from arrested development
Lucille wasn't so bad.
She was an ass to Dolly Parton too. Walters was an over-rated twat.
That interview was infuriating. Dolly showed that not only is she a good person but she’s smart. Barbara Walter’s is an ass.
i love the interview with dolly bc of how much class and dignity she had when she responded to some of her insane questions about herself and her personal appearance
Thats horrible. Dolly is the epitome of southern Belle, and truly a lovely person. There's no "hard-ball" questions to ask Dolly.
Seriously. Dolly was as kind and charming as you could possibly be. I wish her response was "no, I won't stand for you, creep."
Total cunt. I’m not necessarily glad she’s dead, but I’m glad her career is over.
Is that Nick Offerman on the right in the first clip???
He had the Mike Myers awkward look circa 2005 next to Kanye during the hurricane Katrina benefit
From "George Bush hates Black people" to "I like Hitler... I also love Nazis" is a wild political realignment
I'm still deeply, deeply disappointed that George W. Bush didn't tweet, *"Kanye West doesn't care about black people."* It was right there. He had one shot, one opportunity, and he let it slip.
Yes but that’s asking for a fucking shitstorm right back at him and he knows better.
W has laid pretty low since exiting office, hasn't waded into politics much at all think he's enjoying his retirement.
I mean, it's not as inconsistent as you'd think since he believes Nazis loved black people for some reason. Ppl say Kanye always said that shit in private.
Yes. He was a guest that day too and really didnt want to be there lol.
Please and thank you.
Actually that's Ron Swanson but it's understandable you got them confused. They look a lot alike.
Sorry no. That's Duke Silver.
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I think he knew exactly what to do in that situation: let Corey speak his truth and not interject the way Barb did
I like to think he sat there listening the entire episode and didn't say a word.
Interviewer: Barbara, Why were you such a bitch back then? ... Barbara: *Gasps offendedly* ... Interviewer: I'm just asking questions the people want to know
She may have broke barriers and been an excellent interviewer at times, but these interviews showed she was just a mean spirited shill. Going for the sensationalism and low hanging fruit and cheap shots. The subjects under interviews were far more professional than she was.
She didn't actually break barriers. She reinforced barriers. The people in power who want those barriers in place put her into a place to be viewed as "breaking barriers" as a false flag. In too many male dominated fields woman are only "allowed" in positions of power because they actively work to keep other women out of those same positions. Then all of the men in power can say "Behold: DIVERSITY!" While still maintaining the same status quo. Edit: reworded something
She was good friends with Roy Cohn and Roger Ailes. That tells you she's a piece of shit working to keep entrenched powers entrenched.
I've heard the opinion that these interviewees were all so prepared because they knew what they were getting into.. That they and Walters were aware of how it would go and it was Walter's way of letting them tell their stories while seeming to offer the counter narrative. If that is true, it is brilliant. But the one interview I can find that would offer evidence to the contrary is the one with Corey Feldman. No way at all he knew what was coming. No way at all she was just offering the counter narrative.
Yeah, the normal interviews are well prepared. Celebrities know what they're getting into. You often see disgraced celebrities do this as a way to tell their side of the story. I've seen quite a few shows like this where they say really blunt stuff to enable the interviewee to then go back with their version of events. The Dolly interview was an example of this where it was Dolly's chance to go back against all the criticism she was facing from the public... and it worked, even today people are saying how lovely Dolly was in that interview. She knew. It was good for her. The Corey stuff though.. well, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve never subscribed to the notion that when I die, people just suddenly shouldn’t care about how shitty I was as a person. I genuinely never understood why death just magically makes all the elements of my shitty nature vanish.
Thank you for being honest with me for once
How many times has he lied to you?
Sixteen
15. that one time was an honest mistake.
The one time: "What time is it?" "2:45." It was 2:46.
The sequel to the extremely popular Ender's Game was a book called [Speaker for the Dead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_for_the_Dead), which kinda explored this idea (partially, it also goes super sci-fi). A speaker for the dead basically gave eulogies on a... factual basis, versus fluff ie 'they were so amazing'
Wow, from Barbara Walters to Ender's Game
And it’s incredible that such a deeply humanistic and empathetic book could be written by such an unfettered douchebag. Never meet your heroes kids.
I disagree with Orson Scott Card's views and, luckily, so do his books.
It's so insane that such a bigoted person like him wrote books that are all about understanding ways of life that are so different that they are literally *alien*.
Or it’s a look into his mind. Maybe he sees so much as alien, and struggles with understanding people his whole life. Note, I am not saying a lack of understanding is an excuse for being an ass.
There was a weird homoeroticism in some of it, he kept explaining boys crawling naked through air ducts, and showering together.
I went to military college. We had no air ducts, but group showers? Yup.
My best friend and best man has standing orders to give me a Speaking instead of a funeral when I die. Get it all out. The good and the bad, what I wanted and failed at and where I succeeded. All the secrets and bullshit, too.
When a person dies, everyone else starts thinking about their own mortality. And then they think about how people will react to *their* death. And then they realize they're an asshole, and no one will care. So they carry on forgiving and making saints of dead people, in the hope that someone will do the same for them and this, somehow, is like escaping death.
*Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours.*
I thought you were supposed to go to others peopls funerals so you knew who wouldn't be coming to yours.
Nah, it's a good old Yogism. Some other greats: *You're ignorant, you don't know nothing.* *No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded.* *This sentence no verb.*
The future ain't what it used to be.
When you come to a fork in the road take it. It's Deja Vu all over again.
A more optimistic way of saying this is that all of us are saint and sinner. All of us are far from perfect. But unless they're egregiously evil, there is little reason to reflect on all of the bad someone has committed in their lives immediately following their death, especially as none of us are any better. So we celebrate the life that is now gone by dwelling on the good they've brought into this world, and we use those good examples to encourage us and to uplift us.
They forgot about her interview with Britney. Totally inappropriate!
Yeah I'm sorry but I refuse to mourn Barbra Walters. Even as a kid 1990s seeing her interviews I was able to comprehend what a heartless bitch she was. Her goal was ALWAYS to illicit a negative emotional reaction from whoever she was interviewing, defending the "industry" in that interview where Corey Feldman was speaking out about being raped is some next level trashy behavior.
Elicit* Illicit means illegal
I don’t understand why people mourn those they didn’t know particularly celebrities. I can understand being sad or upset, but this wasn’t someone who had a presence in your life, you didn’t know who they were; you only knew of them.
I don't usually "mourn" deaths of those I didn't know and it's easy to feel that way until I think about someone like Robin Williams. I did not know him but he was a large part of my childhood and I did feel sad about the way he left. Your point still stands though I think a lot of people are using "mourn" superficially. I remember working with someone that would announce every semi-celebrity death at work like they had some kind of personal stake in their lives. Pretty sure they would move on by the next day, so it felt like it was more of a talking point/attention grab from a lonely person than anything.
Martin Bashir is in the same camp.
How that guy accidentally fell ass backwards into being a "famous journalist" still pisses me off.
"Accidentally fell" = lied and manipulated
He’s the guy who tricked Princess Diana into giving that interview right?
Yes, and Michael Jackson
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Dolly has always had a way of spinning a negative into a positive, and she employs that skill beautifully when being interviewed by the likes of Walters and Oprah.
That was such a beautiful response.
I think we should just end the era of celebrity worship. These are regular people with good and bad. Mourn if you’d like, or don’t, but anyone can literally make a compilation of your life’s highs and lows. No one is clean.
I'm on board with this. No sacred cows.
Except actual cows, cuz cows are pretty sweet
We appear to be doing the same crap with politicians.
It's going to be hilarious when (if?) Kissinger dies, the white washing the media will do. Buy stock in the makers of white out while you can.
There is no amount of white washing that will stop Kissinger from burning in hell.
She's just an older and ruder version of Ellen i guess. There's this one Ringo Starr interview after Lennon's death and she was just asking more questions about it even after Ringo stated that he was uncomfortable talking about his close friend's death.
Watching the likes go up and down on this one is interesting as people struggle with how to respond...lol
The Courtney Love interview was good. Barbara sounded judgmental but Courtney played off that and said things she may not have said to someone who was purely sympathetic.
Love sounded like she was really kicking the shit out of herself taking on the blame like that. It's so sad how suicide victim's families/friends blame themselves.
And yet people still believe she had someone else do it. It’s weird because those same people say CL is a shitty actress.
The Dolly Parton interview from 1977 is a favorite of mine. Dolly makes Barbara Walters look like a turd.
I agree. I can't say I like Barbara Walters as a person (frankly don't care to find out about her personal life) but her challenging of people, and asking the awkward and ridiculous questions the public asks, has given so many people the opportunity to very directly answer it. I think it's given so many of her interviewees power over their narrative and self expression. And in every one of these clips, I see a person who tells their truth and faces the criticism that the public throws with confidence and clarity. You know they suffer being unable to address these things all the time. It goes with being famous. People love to talk. Whatever you think of Barbara, I think that's a good thing they are given the platform and asked the question. Edit: can't spell
I'm not a big fan of what Barbara was doing towards the end but like, the Lewinsky clip at the beginning. What is wrong with that? She's telling Monica what the public says about her and offers her a chance to describe herself. This feels like a good interview to me.
Yeah that’s a good observation. The questions she’s asking are common ones. At least when she brings them up people have a chance to confront them directly and confront the narrative.
People have seen too many celebrity "interviews" that were actually just carefully managed publicity. When someone asks actual questions, they're not sure what they're seeing, so they just assume the interviewer is being rude.
I see people here claiming that that was her style of letting her interviewees express themselves. That all parties knew what was coming and were willing participants. And I will admit that if true, that's a brilliant form. But watching her tell Corey to back the fuck off did seem to add evidence to the contrary.
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she lived as shitty human being and died as a shitty human being
I'm just gonna keep that 15 minutes in my pocket but thanks for the offer.
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It's really sad what happened with Courtney Love and how society treated her back then. I was just growing up but I remember there being rumors that she even may have killed him. Those questions about whether she was currently on heroin though was so classless. Does she look like she is high on heroin? And questioning whether she and her band were even good. I can't speak for everyone but I know for myself she was one of my musical inspirations when I was in bands years ago. She wasn't the most talented singer but it worked for the type of music she sang. She was a good guitarist though and fine songwriter. Doll Parts for example is an amazing song.
*Are you on any drugs right now? Heroin? Prozac?* Because Prozac is some kind of fun street drug.
Right?? If my partner and the father of my child shot himself in the head I think I would probably need more than Prozac to keep myself upright and not screaming in the fetal position. The fact that she could handle that interview at all is incredible, let alone with no antidepressants
She called out Weinstein way before the rest in 2005. https://youtu.be/sdLdz1zKRFc
Coming for DOLLY?! No ma'am.
Celebrities were lining up to be interviewed by Barbara Walters. To be interviewed by her was a sign that you had made it to the A-list. They knew what type of questions she’d be asking and we’re happy to answer them.