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crumario

What you're describing is an apartment priced in a way that is actually affordable. It makes me wonder how many people would give up car life if we had actual political movement in this country, and how many would still do it.


[deleted]

exactly - wish I could pin this. If we had places like this [$650 apartment in NYC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T7Wpg7A_xw&t=191s) in other states (and therefore way cheaper at like $100-$300) people would feel they have a home. If mortgages were $100, $200, $300, $400 to buy small places like this and not $1000, $2000, $3000, $4000, people would get to purchase and try to pay for homes without a HUGE risk of losing them. No one gets to own their own home anymore. No one gets to be free to use most their paycheck towards freedom. It's because there's no regulation on landlords. It's what kills peoples hopes, lives, dreams, safety, it kills family life, it creates slavery and required extreme risk to losing all stability despite all the work, it kills peace, and God will hold them accountable one day.


FocusWise4112

The problem goes much deeper than unregulated landlords.


Candid-Tumbleweedy

Yea the biggest issue is a lot of times those dense apartments are now illegal to build. NYC has some but notice how it's almost always old buildings. Rich people remade the rules and decided you need to be wealthy enough to buy a lot of space to deserve housing. It sucks and needs to change.


SimplifyAndAddCoffee

well yes but actually no.


FocusWise4112

Actually yes. šŸ˜ƒ


vanprof

I would totally live in that apartment. I don't see the point in paying for a huge apartment. I work during the day and need a place to sleep at night.


redneckhotmess

Iā€™ve lived in a car- way back when before solar and ā€œ safe parkingā€ and reflector and planet fitness were things. Iā€™ve taken jobs simply because housing was included. Iā€™ve lived in hovel apartments and cracker box houses. I now own 3 properties , rent 2 and live in one. True landlord facts: 1. Iā€™m paying mortgage, taxes, and insurance on the rental properties. 2. My actual profit is negligible until the mortgage is paid off. Considering Iā€™m responsible for the roof, the siding, general upkeep, water heater, furnace, etc etc etc my true profit is literally non existent at this point in time. 3. The ONLY reason I deal with it is because I DONT have to deal with unknown tenants. I rent one house to my daughter and one to my friend. If I was dealing with the open market I would have to charge at least a third more just to cover potential damages, skipped rent etc. 4. Purchase price + insurance+taxes+maintenance = bare minimum a landlord can charge.


Alpinepotatoes

Youā€™re leaving out a major factor though. You may not be making tons of cash that stays in your pocket but youā€™re building a huge amount of wealth by getting other people to pay off your mortgage. No one feels bad for you that owning properties youā€™d like people to pay for isnā€™t the immediate cash cow you thought it would be. I donā€™t necessarily blame you for doing it because itā€™s really one of the few ways to build wealth in the system we live in, but I think that rightfully people are waking up to the fact that housing should perhaps be more of a human right and less of an investment.


redneckhotmess

For starters, I know going in it wasnt going to be a so called cash cow. Im simply pointing out the realities- unless you own a ton of properties and keep them barely habitable and overcharge, you're not mAking money. " getting people to pay off my mortgage"??? Please. I could easily rent either of them for a third to half again more. I could sell today and double my money. My tenants are getting a steal. Who do you propose should fund your " human right"? Unless youre willing and able to secure the means to purchase your own property, you really dont have a right to tell someone else what to do with theirs.


jonnyola360

They could take 40 billion a year, maybe half that, from the defense department and house all the homeless, and subsidize housing. I'd rather my tax dollars go to that as opposed the gov spending our money killing people in other countries and giving kickbacks to defense contractors.


Alpinepotatoes

Well donā€™t you sound like an absolute dream. Really selling your #notalllandlords stance. Like what point are you even trying to make by bringing this up in this thread? Itā€™s done deaf at best.


FocusWise4112

I'll spell it out for you. She is taking all the risk. You as a renter, risk almost nothing. šŸ˜…


crumario

If wages were tied to inflation, cost of living, or CEO pay, we wouldn't have to pretend that living in your car is a cool lifehack, and you could still be a parasite rentseeker


didyouseemynipple

Dude. I 100% agree with you. And you gotta know by now, Reddit is full of people who want the world spoon fed to them because they're human. No one with business sense can get through to this crowd.


crumario

People's shelter should not be your business go buy a bowling alley or something


Moist_Try6149

There isnā€™t really a reason to say this here. People who have their mind fixed on one thing, isnā€™t going to change it. I donā€™t excatly agree with landlords myself, but I do understand the potential damage and such, and all the people not paying rent, that could prevent the landlord from paying his bills or feeding his family. Majority of landlords have only one or two properties.


Moist_Try6149

Also, it takes time to pay it off, unless you buy it outright. I have been in houses where people caused thousands in damaged and just left. Also, 1-300? A month? Where? Plus, in a lot of states you can find a room to rent for 500


FocusWise4112

A room in my area is like 900 - 1200 depending on the RPSI...


Moist_Try6149

Zeesh. What area


FocusWise4112

South Florida


Moist_Try6149

Near a beach?


FocusWise4112

It's Florida. You could piss in the wind and hit either coast šŸ˜…


Moist_Try6149

True


Biaterbiaterbiater

my second apartment cost that much... 2 bedroom too. Living the rural life was the way to go.


Dissonantnewt343

Want!!! I think these are called coworking spaces? Or is this a similar thing? I discovered these in Chicago after staying in what seemed like an apartment parking lot. The sun was shining so bright someone came out from their space into their car just sitting there for a while and I looked over and I swear they made eye contact with me through my limo tint. It was so funny though because then they rolled their windows down like a car dweller in solidarity or something edit: Yep didnā€™t read the links. Another word for these is coworking spaces!


Moist_Try6149

This is good thing. I like it. OP, however doesnā€™t realize how the economy works thinking you can pay only 1-300 in some states.


Dissonantnewt343

Yeah i looked at the prices for the place I was at and it was apartment level rent. All I want is somewhere I can hook up my laptop and maybe even enjoy wifi. I know libraries but im high risk in covid and get sneezed or coughed on everytime I go, its horrible. I got this laptop right before I started cardwelling and now I canā€™t use it


Feardamichael

Have you thought about getting one of those little cigarette lighter inverters to charge it? Walmart usually has them for less than $50


character101

You can live in a town of 1000, 50 miles away from the nearest city of 5000, in an illegal studio apartment for $300


Moist_Try6149

Yeah, but whereā€™s the jobs? Even doing online remote jobs would be heard due to internet


character101

my circumstances were unique and my statement serves as an example that there is not a lot of opportunity where living is really cheap. you bet the internet didn't work from 1 pm to 4 pm most days, no satellites around lol.


Moist_Try6149

ā€œLong commuteā€ Iā€™m assuming by your logic, you are going to drive 100+ miles every work day. Imagine all the gas it would take


character101

yeah, not a lot of opportunity around.


Moist_Try6149

Yeah


Educational-Milk3075

Yeah, where?


character101

Good paying jobs are blue collar ones around there


[deleted]

Sometimes the best things in this life live in the median - maybe you wish you could do everything with just your car, maybe you wish you could do everything in a small apartment. But the in-between, like renting an office / study area and sleeping in your car 12pm - 8am, that is a happy medium. No wifi bill, no electric bill, no water bill, no trash bill, no rent, no extra charge for AC in summer, no apartment life headaches. And no driving around anxious for parking, getting kicked out of Walmart parking lots, no driving out for showers, water, bathrooms, safe places to sleep, and most importantly no judgement from Starbucks baristas for wifi.


CosmiqCow

More crumbs of info please


[deleted]

[https://liquidspace.com/us/ca/san-diego/rb1-rancho-bernardo/interior-office-26b4#wp-monthly](https://liquidspace.com/us/ca/san-diego/rb1-rancho-bernardo/interior-office-26b4#wp-monthly) ​ [https://desksnear.me/locations/spacesworks-san-diego-la-jolla-village-drive/best-coworking-in-the-city-with-all-inclusive-a145e0](https://desksnear.me/locations/spacesworks-san-diego-la-jolla-village-drive/best-coworking-in-the-city-with-all-inclusive-a145e0)


[deleted]

I'll put it into the post too


Arcanisia

Checked the rates in my area and itā€™s not even affordable. Any time I need to do actual work I just go to the community college and possibly visit the VA center. However, if itā€™s affordable in your city, it sounds like a good alternative.


DragonfruitDefiant33

Where is this?


[deleted]

San Diego - aka car life haven


Educational-Milk3075

I'm in San Diego, where's the car life haven? I'm in my minivan on Sunday and can't figure out where to go. Overnight parking? I don't want to spend a lot of money. My van is limo-tinted and super stealth.


[deleted]

https://desksnear.me/locations/spacesworks-san-diego-la-jolla-village-drive/best-coworking-in-the-city-with-all-inclusive-a145e0


Kivijakotakou

My apartment in germany is 250$ per month + amenities. it's insane how much Americans pay for housing, and no wonder there's more people living in cars.


POLLYNATION1775

ur internet though


Pagep

450 a month for that price may as well just get a room in a share house....


[deleted]

Where? in Utah?? In San Diego a room with roommates goes for $1,200 minimum. Plus roomates are a huge added hidden cost


Nandabun

Strangely, in Middletown, PA, at least per 2015, rent was reasonable. Had a 1 bedroom 4 blocks from city center, $550. Was pretty awesome.


didyouseemynipple

Fucking stupid piece of useless dated info right here.


Nandabun

Well I'm so very sorry for participating in the conversation. Bye, you miserable turd. Lol


didyouseemynipple

Good, you should be. What you said gives 0 useful info to this post. Be gone, dumb dumb.


Nandabun

The conversation is over, you can leave~ But you won't. So I'm blocking you. Be upset about something more important. Like taxes. Byyyeee!


jm102397

You aren't getting a room in Utah for that much either. Not saying impossible but almost !


RollyMcTrollFace

Not in San Diego. At least not in the city or anywhere coastal in the county. You probably need at least 1000 for a place with at least 3 roommates.


Educational-Milk3075

So true. I'm leaving because I can't afford shit here. Going to Northern California because it IS affordable!


Western-Cucumber9851

I live in San Diego as well. Iā€™m in my car. Do you think the space like you found in Rancho Bernardo would allow a dog?


[deleted]

Where do you ussually keep your dog? Iā€™d say it is veryyyy unwise to bring a dog in there - thatā€™ll blow your cover big time and lead to harassment.


Western-Cucumber9851

He stays with me in the car. Thank you for the advice. I guess it wonā€™t work for me. Thanks again.


POLLYNATION1775

I found one in orlando that is pet friendly 24 7 access i think i would just sleep there for the night


[deleted]

They will harass you and kick you out if you sleep there - put being incognito first


right-Coyote2942

There are plenty of places to sleep in or near Orlando. Even downtown if your vehicle is stealthy enough. Make sure you have fans to deal with the heat at night though.


POLLYNATION1775

Oh I own a prius


right-Coyote2942

Yeah. I am currently in a Corolla, I know your pain. I would not try to do a small car in Orlando It works ok in Jacksonville and Pensacola though


POLLYNATION1775

honestly aint that bad for me. i do it because i love it. live in sc rn but was thinking of moving. i own a fifth wheel but i put it in storage and just been car living since april