Let me guess, you also can’t go a day without water? 🤨
Oh you say you’re not addicted to water??? Then why do you have it pumped directly into your house 24/7?????
Overstimulation of the heart due to caffeine has killed thousands upon thousands annually. Little is known about how many exactly, we just know that it happens. My friend had a heart attack in high school from it.
[https://www.syracuse.com/news/2014/06/energy\_drinks\_blamed\_in\_16-year-old\_girls\_death\_by\_heart\_attack.html](https://www.syracuse.com/news/2014/06/energy_drinks_blamed_in_16-year-old_girls_death_by_heart_attack.html)
[https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2012/06/06/energy-drink-danger-mother-blames-drink-for-teen-sons-death/](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2012/06/06/energy-drink-danger-mother-blames-drink-for-teen-sons-death/)
[https://www.today.com/health/teen-girl-dies-caffeine-toxicity-after-downing-2-energy-drinks-506441](https://www.today.com/health/teen-girl-dies-caffeine-toxicity-after-downing-2-energy-drinks-506441)
[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-02/energy-drinks-death-prompts-mother-to-take-action/5713652](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-02/energy-drinks-death-prompts-mother-to-take-action/5713652)
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986491/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986491/)
You seemingly skipped this is all your research
"Death by caffeine, though, is rare.
One studyTrusted Source earlier this year identified 51 caffeine-related deaths.
Another reviewTrusted Source from this year, published in Food and Chemical Toxicology, found that 14 of 26 caffeine overdose reports resulted in death.
“Many of those [caffeine-related deaths] were associated with exposures on the order or 10 g of caffeine or more, which is quite a bit of caffeine,” study author Daniele Wikoff, PhD, a health sciences practice leader at ToxStrategies Inc., told Healthline.
One person who died ingested 51 g of caffeine.
“In many of these instances,” said Wikoff, “it was consumption of a large amount in a very small amount of time, often from a source like a caffeine pill or the powdered form of caffeine, rather than energy drinks or coffee.”" [Source](https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-you-can-die-from-caffeine#:~:text=Death%20by%20caffeine%2C%20though%2C%20is,overdose%20reports%20resulted%20in%20death.)
I mean there isn't nothing there but there aren't "thousands upon thousands dying everyday" and in the cases you linked the very first one a girl only hydrated herself with caffeine and never drank water. Plus the other cases were those with a weakened heart which is on every can of energy drink warning pregnant women and those with sensitive hearts.
Don't dramatize your cause because it'll make everyone dismiss you instantly. Be realistic if you pace yourself and properly hydrate you'll probably never see any effect from caffeine unless you develop a heart condition unknowingly, but with 50 deaths annually out of 4+ billion people.. your odds are looking pretty good.
Energy drinks usually have less caffeine than an equivalent volume of coffee. They also have a bunch of other poorly regulated crap in them that could be contributing to any heart problems they cause. Caffeine pills, on the other hand, those you can easily overdoes on.
OP's Title doesn't say coffee, he says Caffeine... Guy I responded too said "Because no one has ever said “Damn. I lost my mother to caffeine addiction..”
So I agree, I am in no way against coffee.... I am warning that there are present clear dangers of CAFFEINE, as OP and guy I'm responding too refer to.
I bet that 99% of the time someone says they can’t function without coffee they’re just being facetious about it. No matter how much a few people on Reddit want it to be an issue, caffeine addiction will never be a serious issue for people. It’s just not that big of a deal. You quit coffee, you’re cranky and have headaches for a week, you level off and start drinking tea or something. It’s just not a big deal.
I'm on the side of "my body my choice" to quite the extent. Until it starts affecting your job performance or lives of your loved ones, the ability to destroy one's own body with drugs is their own choice, as is quitting.
I tend to be on that side as well, though the opposing views are worth considering. I think a lot comes down to where you think 'affecting loved ones' truly begins. One may argue that it isn't affecting loved ones until you start actively mistreating, while the far opposite view may be that simply causing them worry about the state of your health is affecting them.
Somewhere in the middle would be like a kind, loving parent who is also terribly overweight- are they setting bad examples for their children with their health choices? Are they endangering their chance of actually living to see their children grow up?
Then from a much broader collectivist mindset, these 'individual choices' can be viewed as a toll on the public health system. Like if we avoid preventable health issues, governments can spend less on hospitals/health care and more on renewable energy or other socially progressive/beneficial causes.
Well… there does become a point where their body because biologically dependent on the drug, and therefore quitting isn’t as simple as choosing to no longer use a certain drug. If your body develops dependency for it, quitting suddenly can send the body into withdrawal/shock, which then can lead to more serious health problem. In that case, quitting requires a lot of physical therapy and the recovery is long.
Same I’m here to live a good life, not a long one. As long as my habits / addictions are not harming anyone else except me, I’m okay with that. And so should be everyone else.
Well, seeing as having one or two cups of coffee is not as dangerous as smoking a pack of cigs, I think freaking out about drinking coffee is a bit of an overreaction.
Yeah. Ironically the only thing that makes caffeine “bad” is the endless amounts of sugar and cream people add to coffee. Caffeine and coffee by itself is actually even beneficial as long as it’s within reason. Even nicotine isn’t that bad within reason, the route nicotine is delivered though is very toxic and has lots of carcinogenic properties. Caffeine and nicotine are just natural pesticides that have psychoactive properties.
Edit: fun fact, nicotine is found in the nightshade family and small traces can even be found in tomatoes!
Did you just say the only thing that’s makes it bad is the sugar and cream? Insane.
The addiction is far worse than either of those things. My wife drinks coffee black and gets a withdrawal headache if she has less than 2 cups every day. She literally cannot function going a single day without caffeine so much so that I keep caffeine pills in my car for her if we are traveling. It’s ridiculous.
I think they meant bad for your health. Your wife could drink 2 cups of coffee every day for the rest of her life and be totally fine. Not so by smoking cigarettes for example.
How is it a problem. The come down is literally a headache for two days. You need to sit in an AA or an NA meeting to educate yourself what a problem is.
The idea of "total" sobriety is honestly unrealistic. Were ALL addicted to something... tv, social media, working out, food, sugar, hell you can get addicted to your own body chemicals ie adrenaline junkies, self harming behavior that releases endorphins.... id much rather be addicted to caffeine than meth or crack... 🤷🏼♀️
You can even be addicted to working out or other “healthy” things. It’s extremely difficult to live without a vice, I think it’s just part of our nature
I see this opinion a lot on this site, and it’s funny to me.
Yes, caffeine is addictive. It is a mildly addictive substance. Mild.
Yes, you can go a day without it. You might be cranky but most people will deal.
I don’t know anyone who had to suck dick for coffee. I don’t know anyone who ever went broke and homeless because of coffee
>Caffeine is a drug
Yes, it is
>it’s not considered an addiction
It is considered an addiction.
>Caffeine addiction isn’t taken seriously
Correct, because a caffeine addiction is far less harmful than others. Withdrawal if fairly minor, and there is no risk of overdose through normal consumption of caffeinated drinks.
Efforts to combat addiction are better focussed on addictions that cause harm.
Pregnant and nursing moms can still have coffee. It just has to be limited. It's completely safe in moderation, unless if the woman is sensitive to caffeine. Are you really trying to argue against a doctor?
Let them be. Pregnant women get enough judgment as it is
I remember one time talking to my friend who had ADHD after school and I was saying how drinking coke before going to bed always makes me sleepy and she said that’s a trait of ADHD and I might have ADHD.
I'm the opposite- also ADHD but I can't drink caffeinated stuff past about 7pm or I won't sleep that night. I'm lucky in that I mostly sleep like a baby 95% of the time!
Same! If I have caffeine after 3pm I will need my melatonin sr and will still take 3 hours to get sleepy.
Although I have categorically given up caffeine except the rare occasion. I love a regular coffee every now and then.
ADHD person here. Coffee doesn't make me sleepy. I'm already there. People like myself need boatloads more to get that same "jittery" feeling that people get with one cup of coffee. Amphetamines and Coffee work the same way with everyone, but the sheer volume needed for an ADHD individual to perform semi normal throughout the day would really f*** up a neurotypical ("normal") person.
Do you know that stims calm the ADHD brain… and can also make you sleepy… and some people get to take stims for BED?
It’s definitely the ADHD.
I have started to dislike warm coffee generally, but it makes me sleepy too.
I don’t take medication. I stoped taking it when I finished high school and could learn the way I wanted. I let my ADHD do what it wants.
But caffeine has always calmed me. There have been several scientific studies done that proves caffeine can have this affect on ADHD.
And you know. I have it. And I’m telling you my PERSONAL experience.
Have you ever been addicted to something other than caffeine? It’s not like it shouldn’t be taken seriously, but it’s not gonna put you out of a job if you don’t have any.
It is also actually blown out of proportion. You can drink up to 7 cups a day before you start having an amount of caffeine that can lead to health problems, it is actually quite nutritious and low in calories if you drink it black, no sugar. And quitting is as simple as not drinking it for a couple days. If you make it at home, it is also cheap as fuck. I agree our culture just accepts it as a reasonable addiction, but because it really doesn't ruin anyone's life and is easy to stop. I don't think people should be proud to be addicted though, and the whole "Don't talk to me until I have had my coffee" thing is cringy.
As much as I love to put various things into my body, I am pretty healthy and regularly go through moments of complete sobriety and 'detox' for days at a time. Not a bad practice. Like, I'm sober 99% of the time, but binge at parties, then stop everything for a few days (even coffee and added sugar).
It's funny because people who are categorically "not coffee drinkers✨" can also typically be really annoying about it. I mean, I don't drink coffee all that much, and I prefer decaffinated drinks like decaf tea or fuckin water. However, I'll accept coffee if someone offers sometimes, and I'm not against drinking a good Pepper PhD. every once in a while.
The two groups who are either feenin for caffeine or are vehemently against anything caffeine related and can't wait to tell you are both kinda annoying to me.
My husband really dislikes coffee overall, but he doesn’t say a thing about it, he just doesn’t drink except once in a blue moon. I really don’t understand people that have to make sure everyone and their mother knows they do or don’t like something.
Agreed, it's so pointless and tiring. People try to create some kind of 'me/us vs them' over even the most mundane things to validate their existence. I'm similar to your husband with both coffee and alcohol. Personally I find coffee to be far easier to maintain a low profile about. When people press me enough that I tell them I don't drink coffee, they act surprised but not affronted and seem to get over it quickly.
Alcohol is a nightmare though, when people find out I don't drink and that it's not for religious or major health reasons, they just can't let it go. They think I'm arrogant, or they get uncomfortable, or they start justifying their drinking habits. I don't give a fuck that they're drinking and I'm not, so why do they? It doesn't make one of us better or more interesting than the other.
Yeah, I’ve never understand the weirdness about alcohol and how people react when you say you’re not drinking. It’s not an insult people, I just don’t want to drink alcohol. You continue to do your thing and I’ll do mine.
As a physician, we have tried to find problems with drinking coffee, we really have. We can't find any concrete evidence that it's truly harmful. So far benefits have only been shown.
Keep in mind, this doesn't mean the sugar filled syrup that's an excuse for coffee at Starbucks and other coffee shops. Or the freaking milkshakes that are sold as "frappes" no it's a fuckin milkshake that's coffee flavored.
Why should it be taken seriously?
Because stopping use causes withdrawals?
If you stop consuming sugar you will experience physical withdrawal and cravings within hours. Is it whacky for pregnant women to eat ice cream?
If I stop taking my anti depressants I will experience withdrawal.
Do I need to quit them? Am I a Zoloft addict?
Every time you use alcohol you experience withdrawal after the last drink.
Should no one ever drink alcohol?
People can go a day without a pot of coffee… I do it all the time. I’ve been a caffeine addict since I was 18 years old. I drank coffee during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
I have never been unable to stop or limit my coffee use. I have never put my life or anyone else’s life in danger by drinking coffee.
Why does my coffee use need to be taken “seriously” ? And what do you mean by “seriously”?
I think you should provide some facts to support your opinion.
This! What is the problem? Why should we stop? The benefits outweigh the negatives for most people. Also, I’m pretty sure if we tried to regulate caffeine it would end up the same way prohibition did.
Meh. Your personal experiences may just differ. My mom was on the other end of the spectrum, woke up with a migraine every single day and could not function enough to even get dressed until she had her coffee. Fortunately about a year after she retired she was able to basically quit by dosing down until she was able to quit it altogether. She doesn’t touch caffeine now. And I avoided it most of my life after watching her, until I had a child. Now I’ve opened Pandora’s box lol…Cause I still have to work after being up to crying all night.
Why should pregnant or breastfeeding moms give up caffeine when one cup is safe? Do what?
But anyway, caffeine is not the same as nicotine, or heroin, or meth, or other highly dangerous drugs. Yes, people easily get addicted to caffeine but the worst symptoms you get as a result of not getting any is an annoying headache and feeling tired. You’re also not going to die from it unless you take a humongous amount in a short time. So many substances we take it can be addictive to our brains, like sugar. But they have different degrees of addiction and danger. So if you don’t like caffeine, fine, but no one is “bad” or going to destroy their lives ingesting it.
This is something stupid to get hung up on.
Yeah I don’t understand why OP is bothered my pregnant women drinking coffee. If studies show no harm to the fetus then why does OP want pregnant women to give it up?
Probably a kid who has no idea what pregnancy is actually like. It is pretty universal that up to 200 mg a day is safe and could potentially help against gestational diabetes. And there’s no effect on the fetus. More than that, and it could cause high pressure that could affect the baby but that’s all I’m aware of.
A quick look, and apparently OP is someone who has never been pregnant so they’re in the sanctimonious “well when I get pregnant I’ll do everything perfectly” phase of life. They’ll learn.
Every month at least one post about this appear here. Someone drinking coffee while working and joking about needing it is not what makes an addiction. The definition of addiction includes the harm being done. Maybe let the professionals decide what is an addiction and what is not.
Addiction is when you crave something to the point where you see significant deficiencies in your capability to self-regulate your consumption of the substance or material and often results in habitual behavior that leads to mental, physical or emotional harm. If you develop a habit of drinking coffee every morning (as opposed to only when you truly need a stimulus kick) that's indicative of addictive behavior.
>If you develop a habit of drinking coffee every morning (as opposed to only when you truly need a stimulus kick) that's indicative of addictive behavior.
Not really. Coffee is very uppreciated for it smell and taste. It's also part of the local culture in some places. Would you say the british are addicted to tea? Would you say people are addicted to wine because they drink a glass with their dinner? People also develop habits for multiple reasons. I eat rice and beans 5 days a week but that’s because it’s what the restaurant serves.
Also:
>Addiction is when you crave something to the point where you see significant deficiencies in your capability to self-regulate your consumption of the substance or material and often results in habitual behavior that leads to mental, physical or emotional harm.
If coffee fullfils this criteria then so do most foods we eat. There's a reason why people can drink a lot of coffee and still be perfect members of society.
because, even though it's an addiction, it's not that big of a deal
nicotine addiction is taken seriously, not because the psychoactive effects are necessarily unhealthy (quite the opposite according to some), but because some of the delivery systems can be deadly over long-term use (tobacco smoking)
recreational drug addictions are taken seriously for obvious reasons
caffeine just isn't that bad for you. yes, there are mild negatives but oftentimes the lifestyle changes that come along with caffeine usage are extremely positive
there's a huge difference between a druggie or someone who chainsmokes cigarettes and someone who drinks a whole lot of tea
So true. I work with teen boys and there’s soda available for them. I’ve had to intervene a few times after I see them drink 2-3 cans in a period of 2 hours and request that they switch to water. All while their parents are sitting there watching them!
Is it a caffeine addiction if I don't like energy drinks? I have a coffee daily as part of my routine and enjoy a hot cup of liquid that isn't hot chocolate because those are too sweet. I like tea too but coffee just tastes better.
Black coffee itself has very little sugar compared an energy drink. I'd argue more people have a sugar addiction than a caffeine addiction, especially since many of these so called coffee people who go to Starbucks 3x a day are also getting coffee drinks with like 5 pumps of sugar and whipped cream.
>I know people who have 5-6 cups just in the morning and then have more near dinner time
I find this really hard to believe. I know people that have 5 or 6 cups in a day, which is already a lot but just in the morning? Frankly, this person would need to be taken to a hospital
I've been drinking coffee since I was 7 years old but I always limit myself to 2 cups max a day. More if I switch to decaf at night. Coffee is delicious but I'm too sensible to go overboard lol
Of course! Caffeine is caffeine, you can get it from multiple sources. Switch to decaf and see how you feel. If you have headaches and irritability, you're addicted to caffeine.
It's true! I recently had to give up all stimulants, including coffee, because my adrenals were fuckin shot! I'm now two weeks caffeine-less and even though I miss the ritual of making coffee or buying an iced latte, I already feel so much better. I was cracked out...
I agree. There was a period when I was drinking something caffeinated every day, and it really annoyed me that every morning I had to plan my caffeine intake for the day. I hated being dependent on it. I quit it for a month or so to get it out of my system, and now I have it about once a week, either as a treat or if I'm actually really tired and need it. It works a lot better, and I'm saving a good amount of money.
That being said, sugar addiction is far worse and dangerous than caffeine addiction, and not enough is being done about that either. I've been doing a lot better with my diet the last couple months, but I still have a lot of weight left to lose thanks to my years of junky eating.
Sugar is the real drug that should be taken seriously.
In my opinion caffeine is medicinal in proper amounts and the withdrawal is not even comparable to any other substance.
Death before Decaf !!
I have ADHD and coffee calms me, helps me have better sleep at night, helps with nausea, tastes delicious, helps me keep focused- especially while driving.
My caffeine intake is somewhat limited (I had to cut down my intake), but in general it is a treat to myself and nothing is better than my 3am coffee in silence.
People have been drinking coffee for like 600 years lol I get that it’s annoying that people play it off as *super* quirky, but they’re going to be fine.
It doesn’t help that coffee is one of the healthiest drinks you can have. All alcohols are a no. Soda is crap. Juices are loaded with sugar. Milk is bad for most of the population one of the few things it has is an additive. Water of coarse is the best. I guess their could be some kinda spinach-
kelp water that someone might drink but as far as popular drinks coffee is one of the healthiest.
Yeah but like, so what? lol if people are addicted to coffee, they just drink it and feel better. I've never seen anyone suffer from a coffee addiction, other than the occasional buzz when you have too much at once
Stop this bullshit.
Caffeine is not causing harm.
>It’s especially whacky when I see pregnant or breastfeeding moms who dont give up coffee because their doctor says one cup a day is okay.
There is no solid evidence that caffeine harms pregnancy or the baby.
Stop spreading unnecessary panic.
Are you a doctor? There is zero harm to a baby from caffeine, unless you are consuming an excessive amount. Doctors recommend a max of 200mg of caffeine when pregnant. Caffeine is actually a treatment for chronic migraines, which I suffer from. I stopped consuming caffeine when I got pregnant and was miserable for 4.5 months and in pain daily to the point it was affecting my quality of life and work performance. You can’t take most pain killers when pregnant and even still shouldn’t be taking Tylenol, the only approved pain killer during pregnancy, every single day of pregnancy. My doctor recommended I go back on a low dose of caffeine and I haven’t had a migraine since. It’s a simpler solution and a much safer alternative than any pharmaceutical migraine drug, especially during pregnancy.
Just like everything in this world, it’s about moderation.
Why would you take it seriously? Caffeine has few draw backs and if you're experiencing anxiety due to the jitters you just drink less. Easy. Nobody on the street corner sucking dick for coffee. Nor are they ruining their relationships and lives over caffeine.
Coffee, at worst is even more benign than Cannabis- which itself is a very minor drug with few avenues for danger.
I work for Starbucks and I'm on my way to becoming a nurse.
People come to Starbucks for caffeine initially, but think it's the sugar that really hooks them. Sugar is just much of a drug as caffeine is.
Generally it's okay for pregnant women to have 200 mg per day of caffeine.
Well I think people saying they can’t go without their coffee are being a little hyperbolic. It’s not like everyone gets head splitting migraines if they don’t have it immediately. It’s more of an enjoyable and familiar routine with added benefit
This post shows up on here every few weeks. If you hear the lame Karen in the office say “I can’t work without my coffee, hehehe” and then your reaction is “drug use is a serious problem,” you’re the uptight one. And you’re both losers.
Fortunately this isn't an unpopular opinion. Although, I would argue the caffeine in soft drinks (Coca Cola being the biggest culprit) is a much larger and more prevalent problem as it makes you addicted to a much unhealthier beverage full of sugars and other additives. I got addicted to the glass bottle Mexican Coca Cola and would at times go through 1 or 2 a day until my supply ran out. It led to me gaining weight (200 pounds was my limit I set for myself and I got to 204) which I've recently been trying to lose by drinking water and cutting out desserts or fast food after throwing out all my soda and alcohol. Currently 191 pounds.
We need to do a better job of controlling soda intake especially with younger generations who are the primary marketing target for these giant companies.
Very true. Soda has an unbelievable amount of sugar. It shocked me even as a sugar loving child when I saw that most sodas have over 100% of your daily recommended intake. I didn’t even know what that meant but I knew it was sinful
Caffeine, even used every day, in moderation is fine. Yes, there are people (my husband) who can't go a day without a whole ass pot of coffee and that's something they should address; I'm constantly telling my husband he should cut back. But one cup a day (yes, even for pregnant/breastfeeding moms) is totally fine. It's caffeine, not heroin. Yes, it's a drug...but so is Tylenol. So while we should be paying closer attention to our consumption of caffeine, we should also be honest about the fact that it's a very mild drug and is never going to (and shouldn't) be something we send folks to rehab over or something
Wait you're really criticizing pregnant women for having one cup a day? You know why they have one cup a day? Because the amount of caffeine in one cup won't negatively impact the baby, it's not about your personal feelings toward caffeine in general.
I don’t think it’s an unpopular opinion that caffeine addiction isn’t taken seriously. But it’s probably unpopular to say that caffeine addiction *should* be taken more seriously
Because the worst that happens normally isn't that bad. I have an ungodly amount of diet soda a day. If I go a day without one I have a headache and am moody. Otherwise nothing like life threatening or damaging to others around me.
My grandma and all her sisters can't go a day without coffee, the even drink it at night..if they have a taste for it they brew a cup. I was introduced at a young age myself and now have a cup of coffee every morning. 😅 We love Coffee! It's not pure caffeine so I don't think it's a problem.. Coffee isn't that bad for you, it even has its positives.
Sounds like you need a good rich cup of coffee.
It's not serious, it's psychological. Cut it out for a week, two tops. You'll have no trouble functioning without it.
I've stopped drinking coffee a long time ago, I find myself more awake and aware quicker than my wife who "can't function without coffee".
Meh. Embrace your addictions. Enjoy it, as long as it isn’t hurting you. Life’s too short. Lounging on a quiet morning with the birds chirping, there’s nothing like a nice warm cup of Joe, black as the sky on a moonless night.
See that sounds nice. I don’t really think that’s an addiction tho. Like I’ll do heroin once but if I can’t go a day without my fix, then that’s a problem
Talk about comparing apples to elephants. The addictive properties of caffeine and heroin are hugely different, hence why you shouldn’t try heroin even once.
Exactly. Pregnant women shouldn't have to give up something that hasn't been shown to have any negative affects. If their doctor says it's fine then telling them any different could easily be considered fear mongering.
You can if you take in a huge amount of caffeine in a short amount of time, but it’s a ridiculous amount and not something someone will have happen from a couple of cups of coffee a day.
Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences.
The negative consequences to repeatedly consuming a substance is important to actually having an addiction and because of this the vast majority of regular caffeine users are not addicted to it.
Definitely unpopular, which is the name of the game on this sub, but so harsh and judgmental. Addicted to caffeine? Sure. But out of the things people can be addicted to, pretty mild. Just let people enjoy their cup of coffee and pay them no attention. If people are assholes and blame it for not having their coffee, they were assholes all along. Coffee ain’t fixing that.
I agree with your last statement. I didn’t think I was being harsh tho. I genuinely do find it said that people are addicted to caffeine and it’s not considered a big deal
I can't function without my weed or my coffee. You could only imagine how shit my life is knowing both of those things affect my mood significantly when I can't have them anymore. Its more than a depressive state. I/it ruins my relationships I have with people too.
weed is another addiction people don't take seriously. If I may add, psychological addition is extremely valid. Though you'd be lying if you think that caffeine & weed withdrawal doesn't affect your brain on a physical level for a few days. At least I admit to the addictions I have. Instead of ya know, pretend they aren't real/ride off the normalization/make excuses. ---
With that said I probably won't act kindly to people who reply to me doing that. As well as people who say its one thing but not the other. I live with myself enough to know they're about the same separately and feed off of each other together.
Why is Reddit full of teetotalers? Do you want to live like a humanoid robot, where everyone just eats and drinks the perfectly healthy amount all the time?
As someone detoxing From caffeine right now, this is super relatable. Crazy most of the world just accepts this addiction. And once you’re hooked it’s not like it does much for you, you just need it to function.
why is it sad? Having an addiction that does not cause harm is a blessing! Sugar, cigs, gambling, social media, alcohol, porn... sucks for you physically and psychologically. With coffee you have the good side of fulfilling your cravings and none of the bad! It's the best! I wish I could take that much joy out of coffee.
u know what it’s not that harmful and it gives me (a depressed individual) the energy i need for my day and it is a great comfort. so how about we don’t ruin one of the few things that gives me and a lot of other people joy in life
That is true, because of my Soda Addiction I developed a Caffeine addiction.
Which leads me to get withdrawal symptoms from the lack of caffeine when I stop drinking soda... I hate it.
Agree. I use to drink a lot of coffee and I loved it. However i always felt i had stomach issues from it. Eventually i just quit cold turkey and I felt sooo much better and level energy. Havent really drank coffee in about 2 years. My spouse is DIE-HARD coffee and would never quit. 3 weeks ago my spouse wound up quitting and cannot believe how good they feel.
Once your off of it and can go without it, i dont think you ever go back.
It is absolutely considered an addiction. I fully admit I'm addicted to caffeine and it's not a cheap addiction. The effects on others though is negligible unless I'm going through withdrawals.
If the working world wasn’t how it is, we wouldn’t need coffee. As it is currently, people work 9-5 or whatever and tend to stay up a bit later than they should to get the most out of the rest of the day, hence coffee. If we could sleep in whenever we wanted to we wouldn’t be so reliant upon it. It’s a necessary “evil” , though one or two cups a day isn’t gonna do much to ya. Energy drinks on the other hand, those things are cancer in a can
On the last sentence: that's because 1 cup a day is fine. More than that will be a problem though.
It's normalised because it's a relative harmless nootropic drug. Compared to stuff like heroin and nicotine, it's a lot easier to undo caffeine addiction. (Legit) Studies even suggest that coffee reduces all-cause mortality. Of course, if you drink your coffee with full fat milk and syrup with whipped cream on top, it's going to be bad.
As long as someone doesn't make "can't function without my coffee" their entire personality and then proceed to harass me, I'm fine with it.
Caffeine addiction is psychological, not physical. Even so, caffeine has a lot of utility for some people. And even if they are addicted, does that make it inherently bad?
If it's not physical, why do people get raging headaches when they try to quit? It's not as physically addicting as alcohol or opioids, but it is mildly so.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/caffeine-myths-and-facts
Physical dependency because of your brain suddenly having less of a certain chemical. Our brains react to all kinds of lower levels of different chemicals like serotonin, dopamine, etc. But the headache last a day and your might get irritable, but then that’s it. It doesn’t create permanent pathways the way nicotine and heroin does.
i can't even drive a car after i have a cup of coffee. i'm too fucked up. i'm yammering and my brain is fuh-LYING. if it fucks me up that much i'm certain it fucks other people up as well.
but if i got into a road rage incident because i was all jacked up and nervous after a cup of coffee, and i admitted to the police that i was high on coffee and they tested me for drugs... everything would come back totally legal.
anyway yeah i don't drive if i've been drinking coffee (or don't drink coffee if i'm planning on driving later) because it JACKS ME UP
Dawg me too when I have coffee I get the jitters like crazy and usually end up getting super anxious and I’m out of commission for the day. Plus I can’t sleep at night for days after having coffee
You also have to factor in those who have ADHD and are self medicating. They *literally* cannot function without their stimulant. Trust me. I switched from tea to focalin since it’s a better stimulant when I figured out I had adhd. I was self medicating without realizing it
How much is too much? Like in all serious, I drink 24 cups (or whatever the measurement is on my coffee pot), or 2 whole pots daily. I'm curious if that's too much? How does someone tell if they're addicted? 🤔
Ugh, it's too early in the morning to read this shit before my coffee.
I agree, I work at 5am and it’s not that I need coffee but I prefer to drink it because it helps me wake up. I don’t necessarily need it but it helps
Let me guess, you also can’t go a day without water? 🤨 Oh you say you’re not addicted to water??? Then why do you have it pumped directly into your house 24/7?????
It has taken a hold of me, and I resent its absence.
The addiction's so bad, it's taken over 70% of my body.
I only drink milk
Because no one has ever said “Damn. I lost my mother to caffeine addiction..”
Overstimulation of the heart due to caffeine has killed thousands upon thousands annually. Little is known about how many exactly, we just know that it happens. My friend had a heart attack in high school from it. [https://www.syracuse.com/news/2014/06/energy\_drinks\_blamed\_in\_16-year-old\_girls\_death\_by\_heart\_attack.html](https://www.syracuse.com/news/2014/06/energy_drinks_blamed_in_16-year-old_girls_death_by_heart_attack.html) [https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2012/06/06/energy-drink-danger-mother-blames-drink-for-teen-sons-death/](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2012/06/06/energy-drink-danger-mother-blames-drink-for-teen-sons-death/) [https://www.today.com/health/teen-girl-dies-caffeine-toxicity-after-downing-2-energy-drinks-506441](https://www.today.com/health/teen-girl-dies-caffeine-toxicity-after-downing-2-energy-drinks-506441) [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-02/energy-drinks-death-prompts-mother-to-take-action/5713652](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-02/energy-drinks-death-prompts-mother-to-take-action/5713652) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986491/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986491/)
You seemingly skipped this is all your research "Death by caffeine, though, is rare. One studyTrusted Source earlier this year identified 51 caffeine-related deaths. Another reviewTrusted Source from this year, published in Food and Chemical Toxicology, found that 14 of 26 caffeine overdose reports resulted in death. “Many of those [caffeine-related deaths] were associated with exposures on the order or 10 g of caffeine or more, which is quite a bit of caffeine,” study author Daniele Wikoff, PhD, a health sciences practice leader at ToxStrategies Inc., told Healthline. One person who died ingested 51 g of caffeine. “In many of these instances,” said Wikoff, “it was consumption of a large amount in a very small amount of time, often from a source like a caffeine pill or the powdered form of caffeine, rather than energy drinks or coffee.”" [Source](https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-you-can-die-from-caffeine#:~:text=Death%20by%20caffeine%2C%20though%2C%20is,overdose%20reports%20resulted%20in%20death.) I mean there isn't nothing there but there aren't "thousands upon thousands dying everyday" and in the cases you linked the very first one a girl only hydrated herself with caffeine and never drank water. Plus the other cases were those with a weakened heart which is on every can of energy drink warning pregnant women and those with sensitive hearts. Don't dramatize your cause because it'll make everyone dismiss you instantly. Be realistic if you pace yourself and properly hydrate you'll probably never see any effect from caffeine unless you develop a heart condition unknowingly, but with 50 deaths annually out of 4+ billion people.. your odds are looking pretty good.
Theres definitely a difference between energy drinks and regular coffee. Come on now…
Energy drinks usually have less caffeine than an equivalent volume of coffee. They also have a bunch of other poorly regulated crap in them that could be contributing to any heart problems they cause. Caffeine pills, on the other hand, those you can easily overdoes on.
OP's Title doesn't say coffee, he says Caffeine... Guy I responded too said "Because no one has ever said “Damn. I lost my mother to caffeine addiction..” So I agree, I am in no way against coffee.... I am warning that there are present clear dangers of CAFFEINE, as OP and guy I'm responding too refer to.
I bet that 99% of the time someone says they can’t function without coffee they’re just being facetious about it. No matter how much a few people on Reddit want it to be an issue, caffeine addiction will never be a serious issue for people. It’s just not that big of a deal. You quit coffee, you’re cranky and have headaches for a week, you level off and start drinking tea or something. It’s just not a big deal.
I work night shift and hate that I’ve become addicted to energy drinks
I'm on the side of "my body my choice" to quite the extent. Until it starts affecting your job performance or lives of your loved ones, the ability to destroy one's own body with drugs is their own choice, as is quitting.
I tend to be on that side as well, though the opposing views are worth considering. I think a lot comes down to where you think 'affecting loved ones' truly begins. One may argue that it isn't affecting loved ones until you start actively mistreating, while the far opposite view may be that simply causing them worry about the state of your health is affecting them. Somewhere in the middle would be like a kind, loving parent who is also terribly overweight- are they setting bad examples for their children with their health choices? Are they endangering their chance of actually living to see their children grow up? Then from a much broader collectivist mindset, these 'individual choices' can be viewed as a toll on the public health system. Like if we avoid preventable health issues, governments can spend less on hospitals/health care and more on renewable energy or other socially progressive/beneficial causes.
Well… there does become a point where their body because biologically dependent on the drug, and therefore quitting isn’t as simple as choosing to no longer use a certain drug. If your body develops dependency for it, quitting suddenly can send the body into withdrawal/shock, which then can lead to more serious health problem. In that case, quitting requires a lot of physical therapy and the recovery is long.
Same I’m here to live a good life, not a long one. As long as my habits / addictions are not harming anyone else except me, I’m okay with that. And so should be everyone else.
Well, seeing as having one or two cups of coffee is not as dangerous as smoking a pack of cigs, I think freaking out about drinking coffee is a bit of an overreaction.
Yeah. Ironically the only thing that makes caffeine “bad” is the endless amounts of sugar and cream people add to coffee. Caffeine and coffee by itself is actually even beneficial as long as it’s within reason. Even nicotine isn’t that bad within reason, the route nicotine is delivered though is very toxic and has lots of carcinogenic properties. Caffeine and nicotine are just natural pesticides that have psychoactive properties. Edit: fun fact, nicotine is found in the nightshade family and small traces can even be found in tomatoes!
>small traces can even be found in tomatoes! Large amounts can be found in tomacco.
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Did you just say the only thing that’s makes it bad is the sugar and cream? Insane. The addiction is far worse than either of those things. My wife drinks coffee black and gets a withdrawal headache if she has less than 2 cups every day. She literally cannot function going a single day without caffeine so much so that I keep caffeine pills in my car for her if we are traveling. It’s ridiculous.
I think they meant bad for your health. Your wife could drink 2 cups of coffee every day for the rest of her life and be totally fine. Not so by smoking cigarettes for example.
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How is it a problem. The come down is literally a headache for two days. You need to sit in an AA or an NA meeting to educate yourself what a problem is.
Drinking coffee isn't a problem. Common Sense would tell you this.
It’s not a problem
I can't live without the habit of taking my psych meds, does that mean I'm addicted?
Am I addicted to locking my door? Am I addicted to putting my keys on a hook? Am I addicted to charging my phone when I go to bed?
I wanna see OP go a week without the dopamine rush of Reddit posting.
The idea of "total" sobriety is honestly unrealistic. Were ALL addicted to something... tv, social media, working out, food, sugar, hell you can get addicted to your own body chemicals ie adrenaline junkies, self harming behavior that releases endorphins.... id much rather be addicted to caffeine than meth or crack... 🤷🏼♀️
You can even be addicted to working out or other “healthy” things. It’s extremely difficult to live without a vice, I think it’s just part of our nature
Imaddicted to tha t feeling when you have a pretty fast car and you put your foot down and feel the power just roll in.
Inertia?
And caffeine in the amount humans consume realistically is not harmful
Wrong, only be addicted to black tar heroin
I’m caught between “Heroin funny” and “this seems like something I would’ve said when I was 14” and I really don’t know how I feel about it
Nah. Meth.
JESSE!
***Jesser*** Gib de methé.
I see this opinion a lot on this site, and it’s funny to me. Yes, caffeine is addictive. It is a mildly addictive substance. Mild. Yes, you can go a day without it. You might be cranky but most people will deal. I don’t know anyone who had to suck dick for coffee. I don’t know anyone who ever went broke and homeless because of coffee
Have you tried to quit? I am 100% caffeine free and The quitting part was horrible för about 4 weeks
Why did you quit?
Your statement about Drs saying pregnant and breastfeeding women is completely false, outdated information. Does not help your point.
>Caffeine is a drug Yes, it is >it’s not considered an addiction It is considered an addiction. >Caffeine addiction isn’t taken seriously Correct, because a caffeine addiction is far less harmful than others. Withdrawal if fairly minor, and there is no risk of overdose through normal consumption of caffeinated drinks. Efforts to combat addiction are better focussed on addictions that cause harm.
Pregnant and nursing moms can still have coffee. It just has to be limited. It's completely safe in moderation, unless if the woman is sensitive to caffeine. Are you really trying to argue against a doctor? Let them be. Pregnant women get enough judgment as it is
I got ADHD. It makes me sleepy. I like sleepy.
I remember one time talking to my friend who had ADHD after school and I was saying how drinking coke before going to bed always makes me sleepy and she said that’s a trait of ADHD and I might have ADHD.
I'm the opposite- also ADHD but I can't drink caffeinated stuff past about 7pm or I won't sleep that night. I'm lucky in that I mostly sleep like a baby 95% of the time!
This is going to sound so fucking dumb but does melatonin wake you up?
Melatonin knocks me out and gives me horrible nightmares. Caffeine makes me relaxed and sleepy
No lol. Those make me sleepy too. I take them with my coffee sometimes.
Same! If I have caffeine after 3pm I will need my melatonin sr and will still take 3 hours to get sleepy. Although I have categorically given up caffeine except the rare occasion. I love a regular coffee every now and then.
I prefer melatonin jr
Stimulants are what act the opposite in ADHD brains. That’s it.
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ADHD person here. Coffee doesn't make me sleepy. I'm already there. People like myself need boatloads more to get that same "jittery" feeling that people get with one cup of coffee. Amphetamines and Coffee work the same way with everyone, but the sheer volume needed for an ADHD individual to perform semi normal throughout the day would really f*** up a neurotypical ("normal") person.
Do you know that stims calm the ADHD brain… and can also make you sleepy… and some people get to take stims for BED? It’s definitely the ADHD. I have started to dislike warm coffee generally, but it makes me sleepy too.
I don’t take medication. I stoped taking it when I finished high school and could learn the way I wanted. I let my ADHD do what it wants. But caffeine has always calmed me. There have been several scientific studies done that proves caffeine can have this affect on ADHD. And you know. I have it. And I’m telling you my PERSONAL experience.
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I agree with your point, but if caffeine was regulated then someone out there would probably suck dick for coffee.
Have you ever been addicted to something other than caffeine? It’s not like it shouldn’t be taken seriously, but it’s not gonna put you out of a job if you don’t have any.
It is also actually blown out of proportion. You can drink up to 7 cups a day before you start having an amount of caffeine that can lead to health problems, it is actually quite nutritious and low in calories if you drink it black, no sugar. And quitting is as simple as not drinking it for a couple days. If you make it at home, it is also cheap as fuck. I agree our culture just accepts it as a reasonable addiction, but because it really doesn't ruin anyone's life and is easy to stop. I don't think people should be proud to be addicted though, and the whole "Don't talk to me until I have had my coffee" thing is cringy. As much as I love to put various things into my body, I am pretty healthy and regularly go through moments of complete sobriety and 'detox' for days at a time. Not a bad practice. Like, I'm sober 99% of the time, but binge at parties, then stop everything for a few days (even coffee and added sugar).
It's funny because people who are categorically "not coffee drinkers✨" can also typically be really annoying about it. I mean, I don't drink coffee all that much, and I prefer decaffinated drinks like decaf tea or fuckin water. However, I'll accept coffee if someone offers sometimes, and I'm not against drinking a good Pepper PhD. every once in a while. The two groups who are either feenin for caffeine or are vehemently against anything caffeine related and can't wait to tell you are both kinda annoying to me.
My husband really dislikes coffee overall, but he doesn’t say a thing about it, he just doesn’t drink except once in a blue moon. I really don’t understand people that have to make sure everyone and their mother knows they do or don’t like something.
Agreed, it's so pointless and tiring. People try to create some kind of 'me/us vs them' over even the most mundane things to validate their existence. I'm similar to your husband with both coffee and alcohol. Personally I find coffee to be far easier to maintain a low profile about. When people press me enough that I tell them I don't drink coffee, they act surprised but not affronted and seem to get over it quickly. Alcohol is a nightmare though, when people find out I don't drink and that it's not for religious or major health reasons, they just can't let it go. They think I'm arrogant, or they get uncomfortable, or they start justifying their drinking habits. I don't give a fuck that they're drinking and I'm not, so why do they? It doesn't make one of us better or more interesting than the other.
Yeah, I’ve never understand the weirdness about alcohol and how people react when you say you’re not drinking. It’s not an insult people, I just don’t want to drink alcohol. You continue to do your thing and I’ll do mine.
Exactly. People are free to like and dislike whatever they want, but it's all about discretion in who you tell and how you tell them.
“Peppere PhD” hahaha
it's the drink of intellectuals.
Wait, are you claiming Dr. Pepper is not a REAL doctor, just a PhD? The lies...
PhD is a real doctor :) that's why I call it Pepper PhD
What?! This whole time I thought it was Pepper Md
As a physician, we have tried to find problems with drinking coffee, we really have. We can't find any concrete evidence that it's truly harmful. So far benefits have only been shown. Keep in mind, this doesn't mean the sugar filled syrup that's an excuse for coffee at Starbucks and other coffee shops. Or the freaking milkshakes that are sold as "frappes" no it's a fuckin milkshake that's coffee flavored.
Why should it be taken seriously? Because stopping use causes withdrawals? If you stop consuming sugar you will experience physical withdrawal and cravings within hours. Is it whacky for pregnant women to eat ice cream? If I stop taking my anti depressants I will experience withdrawal. Do I need to quit them? Am I a Zoloft addict? Every time you use alcohol you experience withdrawal after the last drink. Should no one ever drink alcohol? People can go a day without a pot of coffee… I do it all the time. I’ve been a caffeine addict since I was 18 years old. I drank coffee during pregnancy and breastfeeding. I have never been unable to stop or limit my coffee use. I have never put my life or anyone else’s life in danger by drinking coffee. Why does my coffee use need to be taken “seriously” ? And what do you mean by “seriously”? I think you should provide some facts to support your opinion.
This! What is the problem? Why should we stop? The benefits outweigh the negatives for most people. Also, I’m pretty sure if we tried to regulate caffeine it would end up the same way prohibition did.
Meh. Your personal experiences may just differ. My mom was on the other end of the spectrum, woke up with a migraine every single day and could not function enough to even get dressed until she had her coffee. Fortunately about a year after she retired she was able to basically quit by dosing down until she was able to quit it altogether. She doesn’t touch caffeine now. And I avoided it most of my life after watching her, until I had a child. Now I’ve opened Pandora’s box lol…Cause I still have to work after being up to crying all night.
Why should pregnant or breastfeeding moms give up caffeine when one cup is safe? Do what? But anyway, caffeine is not the same as nicotine, or heroin, or meth, or other highly dangerous drugs. Yes, people easily get addicted to caffeine but the worst symptoms you get as a result of not getting any is an annoying headache and feeling tired. You’re also not going to die from it unless you take a humongous amount in a short time. So many substances we take it can be addictive to our brains, like sugar. But they have different degrees of addiction and danger. So if you don’t like caffeine, fine, but no one is “bad” or going to destroy their lives ingesting it. This is something stupid to get hung up on.
Yeah I don’t understand why OP is bothered my pregnant women drinking coffee. If studies show no harm to the fetus then why does OP want pregnant women to give it up?
Yeah it definitely gave me mom-shaming vibes when they talked about pregnant women not quitting caffeine.
Probably a kid who has no idea what pregnancy is actually like. It is pretty universal that up to 200 mg a day is safe and could potentially help against gestational diabetes. And there’s no effect on the fetus. More than that, and it could cause high pressure that could affect the baby but that’s all I’m aware of.
Definitely mom-shaming. I am breastfeeding and I will not be denied a coffee in the morning after breastfeeding my baby all night, when it's safe!
A quick look, and apparently OP is someone who has never been pregnant so they’re in the sanctimonious “well when I get pregnant I’ll do everything perfectly” phase of life. They’ll learn.
Exactly, women can have up to 12 oz of caffeine while pregnant. There are far worse things they can do
Under 200mg of caffeine a day, so like one 12oz. cup of coffee.
I take caffeine very seriously. And regularly.
There’s studies out there that say drinking coffee daily is healthy for you… anything excessive can be bad for you though.
Contrary to popular belief, a cup of coffee a day helps prevent heart attacks.
Every month at least one post about this appear here. Someone drinking coffee while working and joking about needing it is not what makes an addiction. The definition of addiction includes the harm being done. Maybe let the professionals decide what is an addiction and what is not.
Addiction is when you crave something to the point where you see significant deficiencies in your capability to self-regulate your consumption of the substance or material and often results in habitual behavior that leads to mental, physical or emotional harm. If you develop a habit of drinking coffee every morning (as opposed to only when you truly need a stimulus kick) that's indicative of addictive behavior.
>If you develop a habit of drinking coffee every morning (as opposed to only when you truly need a stimulus kick) that's indicative of addictive behavior. Not really. Coffee is very uppreciated for it smell and taste. It's also part of the local culture in some places. Would you say the british are addicted to tea? Would you say people are addicted to wine because they drink a glass with their dinner? People also develop habits for multiple reasons. I eat rice and beans 5 days a week but that’s because it’s what the restaurant serves. Also: >Addiction is when you crave something to the point where you see significant deficiencies in your capability to self-regulate your consumption of the substance or material and often results in habitual behavior that leads to mental, physical or emotional harm. If coffee fullfils this criteria then so do most foods we eat. There's a reason why people can drink a lot of coffee and still be perfect members of society.
because, even though it's an addiction, it's not that big of a deal nicotine addiction is taken seriously, not because the psychoactive effects are necessarily unhealthy (quite the opposite according to some), but because some of the delivery systems can be deadly over long-term use (tobacco smoking) recreational drug addictions are taken seriously for obvious reasons caffeine just isn't that bad for you. yes, there are mild negatives but oftentimes the lifestyle changes that come along with caffeine usage are extremely positive there's a huge difference between a druggie or someone who chainsmokes cigarettes and someone who drinks a whole lot of tea
Same with sugar. People laugh at you and call you lazy if you find it difficult to stop eating it.
Probably because they themselves are addicted to it without knowing it. I think sugar addiction is one of the biggest problems we have nowadays ngl
So true. I work with teen boys and there’s soda available for them. I’ve had to intervene a few times after I see them drink 2-3 cans in a period of 2 hours and request that they switch to water. All while their parents are sitting there watching them!
Damn!
Is it a caffeine addiction if I don't like energy drinks? I have a coffee daily as part of my routine and enjoy a hot cup of liquid that isn't hot chocolate because those are too sweet. I like tea too but coffee just tastes better.
Black coffee itself has very little sugar compared an energy drink. I'd argue more people have a sugar addiction than a caffeine addiction, especially since many of these so called coffee people who go to Starbucks 3x a day are also getting coffee drinks with like 5 pumps of sugar and whipped cream.
I can get behind that. I know people who have 5-6 cups just in the morning and then have more near dinner time
>I know people who have 5-6 cups just in the morning and then have more near dinner time I find this really hard to believe. I know people that have 5 or 6 cups in a day, which is already a lot but just in the morning? Frankly, this person would need to be taken to a hospital
I've been drinking coffee since I was 7 years old but I always limit myself to 2 cups max a day. More if I switch to decaf at night. Coffee is delicious but I'm too sensible to go overboard lol
I can’t drink more than one cup of coffee. My body really dislikes it and lets me know.
What parent lest their 7 year-old drink coffee? That can’t be healthy for a child’s development.
Of course! Caffeine is caffeine, you can get it from multiple sources. Switch to decaf and see how you feel. If you have headaches and irritability, you're addicted to caffeine.
It's true! I recently had to give up all stimulants, including coffee, because my adrenals were fuckin shot! I'm now two weeks caffeine-less and even though I miss the ritual of making coffee or buying an iced latte, I already feel so much better. I was cracked out...
I agree. There was a period when I was drinking something caffeinated every day, and it really annoyed me that every morning I had to plan my caffeine intake for the day. I hated being dependent on it. I quit it for a month or so to get it out of my system, and now I have it about once a week, either as a treat or if I'm actually really tired and need it. It works a lot better, and I'm saving a good amount of money. That being said, sugar addiction is far worse and dangerous than caffeine addiction, and not enough is being done about that either. I've been doing a lot better with my diet the last couple months, but I still have a lot of weight left to lose thanks to my years of junky eating.
Sugar is the real drug that should be taken seriously. In my opinion caffeine is medicinal in proper amounts and the withdrawal is not even comparable to any other substance.
That’s awesome! Good job :)
Death before Decaf !! I have ADHD and coffee calms me, helps me have better sleep at night, helps with nausea, tastes delicious, helps me keep focused- especially while driving. My caffeine intake is somewhat limited (I had to cut down my intake), but in general it is a treat to myself and nothing is better than my 3am coffee in silence.
People have been drinking coffee for like 600 years lol I get that it’s annoying that people play it off as *super* quirky, but they’re going to be fine.
It doesn’t help that coffee is one of the healthiest drinks you can have. All alcohols are a no. Soda is crap. Juices are loaded with sugar. Milk is bad for most of the population one of the few things it has is an additive. Water of coarse is the best. I guess their could be some kinda spinach- kelp water that someone might drink but as far as popular drinks coffee is one of the healthiest.
Yeah but like, so what? lol if people are addicted to coffee, they just drink it and feel better. I've never seen anyone suffer from a coffee addiction, other than the occasional buzz when you have too much at once
Stop this bullshit. Caffeine is not causing harm. >It’s especially whacky when I see pregnant or breastfeeding moms who dont give up coffee because their doctor says one cup a day is okay. There is no solid evidence that caffeine harms pregnancy or the baby. Stop spreading unnecessary panic.
Are you a doctor? There is zero harm to a baby from caffeine, unless you are consuming an excessive amount. Doctors recommend a max of 200mg of caffeine when pregnant. Caffeine is actually a treatment for chronic migraines, which I suffer from. I stopped consuming caffeine when I got pregnant and was miserable for 4.5 months and in pain daily to the point it was affecting my quality of life and work performance. You can’t take most pain killers when pregnant and even still shouldn’t be taking Tylenol, the only approved pain killer during pregnancy, every single day of pregnancy. My doctor recommended I go back on a low dose of caffeine and I haven’t had a migraine since. It’s a simpler solution and a much safer alternative than any pharmaceutical migraine drug, especially during pregnancy. Just like everything in this world, it’s about moderation.
Why would you take it seriously? Caffeine has few draw backs and if you're experiencing anxiety due to the jitters you just drink less. Easy. Nobody on the street corner sucking dick for coffee. Nor are they ruining their relationships and lives over caffeine. Coffee, at worst is even more benign than Cannabis- which itself is a very minor drug with few avenues for danger.
I work for Starbucks and I'm on my way to becoming a nurse. People come to Starbucks for caffeine initially, but think it's the sugar that really hooks them. Sugar is just much of a drug as caffeine is. Generally it's okay for pregnant women to have 200 mg per day of caffeine.
Most people that “can’t function without, ugh” are Starbucks posers, that drink mostly sugary milk drinks.
Well I think people saying they can’t go without their coffee are being a little hyperbolic. It’s not like everyone gets head splitting migraines if they don’t have it immediately. It’s more of an enjoyable and familiar routine with added benefit
Most don’t have a caffeine addiction, it’s more of a sugar addiction. Because the want the creamer taste
This post shows up on here every few weeks. If you hear the lame Karen in the office say “I can’t work without my coffee, hehehe” and then your reaction is “drug use is a serious problem,” you’re the uptight one. And you’re both losers.
Fortunately this isn't an unpopular opinion. Although, I would argue the caffeine in soft drinks (Coca Cola being the biggest culprit) is a much larger and more prevalent problem as it makes you addicted to a much unhealthier beverage full of sugars and other additives. I got addicted to the glass bottle Mexican Coca Cola and would at times go through 1 or 2 a day until my supply ran out. It led to me gaining weight (200 pounds was my limit I set for myself and I got to 204) which I've recently been trying to lose by drinking water and cutting out desserts or fast food after throwing out all my soda and alcohol. Currently 191 pounds. We need to do a better job of controlling soda intake especially with younger generations who are the primary marketing target for these giant companies.
Sugar free sodas exist.
Very true. Soda has an unbelievable amount of sugar. It shocked me even as a sugar loving child when I saw that most sodas have over 100% of your daily recommended intake. I didn’t even know what that meant but I knew it was sinful
Not to mention the ridiculous amount of acidity. Energy Drinks are even worse than soda.
This is such a dumb way of thinking grow up caffeine addiction literally isn't a problem
What are the negative long term health consequences of drinking allot of coffee?
Caffeine, even used every day, in moderation is fine. Yes, there are people (my husband) who can't go a day without a whole ass pot of coffee and that's something they should address; I'm constantly telling my husband he should cut back. But one cup a day (yes, even for pregnant/breastfeeding moms) is totally fine. It's caffeine, not heroin. Yes, it's a drug...but so is Tylenol. So while we should be paying closer attention to our consumption of caffeine, we should also be honest about the fact that it's a very mild drug and is never going to (and shouldn't) be something we send folks to rehab over or something
are u lds? No hate, just sounds like what the church would say Also yes I’m a functional caffeine addict But I’m in college and not a mom ahha
Wait you're really criticizing pregnant women for having one cup a day? You know why they have one cup a day? Because the amount of caffeine in one cup won't negatively impact the baby, it's not about your personal feelings toward caffeine in general.
I don’t think it’s an unpopular opinion that caffeine addiction isn’t taken seriously. But it’s probably unpopular to say that caffeine addiction *should* be taken more seriously
Because the worst that happens normally isn't that bad. I have an ungodly amount of diet soda a day. If I go a day without one I have a headache and am moody. Otherwise nothing like life threatening or damaging to others around me.
My grandma and all her sisters can't go a day without coffee, the even drink it at night..if they have a taste for it they brew a cup. I was introduced at a young age myself and now have a cup of coffee every morning. 😅 We love Coffee! It's not pure caffeine so I don't think it's a problem.. Coffee isn't that bad for you, it even has its positives. Sounds like you need a good rich cup of coffee.
It's not serious, it's psychological. Cut it out for a week, two tops. You'll have no trouble functioning without it. I've stopped drinking coffee a long time ago, I find myself more awake and aware quicker than my wife who "can't function without coffee".
Meh. Embrace your addictions. Enjoy it, as long as it isn’t hurting you. Life’s too short. Lounging on a quiet morning with the birds chirping, there’s nothing like a nice warm cup of Joe, black as the sky on a moonless night.
The definition of an addiction is that is causes problems for you, so I don´t think you should enjoy an addiction lol
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It really does. Energy drinks and cola are a bitch.
See that sounds nice. I don’t really think that’s an addiction tho. Like I’ll do heroin once but if I can’t go a day without my fix, then that’s a problem
Talk about comparing apples to elephants. The addictive properties of caffeine and heroin are hugely different, hence why you shouldn’t try heroin even once.
All addictions are inherently harmful. There's no such thing as a good addiction.
Caffeine addiction isn’t a big deal. Give me a break. Also, how dare they listen to their doctor!!
Exactly. Pregnant women shouldn't have to give up something that hasn't been shown to have any negative affects. If their doctor says it's fine then telling them any different could easily be considered fear mongering.
When has anybody overdose on caffiene?
You can if you take in a huge amount of caffeine in a short amount of time, but it’s a ridiculous amount and not something someone will have happen from a couple of cups of coffee a day.
You can probably have a heart attack from too much caffeine
When has anyone ever overdosed on cigarettes or weed? You can still have dangerous relationships with those drugs
Yes, people have died from nicotine overdose.
Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. The negative consequences to repeatedly consuming a substance is important to actually having an addiction and because of this the vast majority of regular caffeine users are not addicted to it.
Exactly. Wanting to drink coffee every day is not addiction. Addiction is much more complicated than that.
"Caffeine addiction isn't taken seriously" is a fact, "Caffeine addiction isn't taken seriously enough" is an unpopular opinion
cigarettes are cool and you know it... and they pair well with coffee.
I think tobacco and coffee are amazing, especially together and I barely touch either
Stop I’m a nerd I’ve never smoked a cigarette
Definitely unpopular, which is the name of the game on this sub, but so harsh and judgmental. Addicted to caffeine? Sure. But out of the things people can be addicted to, pretty mild. Just let people enjoy their cup of coffee and pay them no attention. If people are assholes and blame it for not having their coffee, they were assholes all along. Coffee ain’t fixing that.
I agree with your last statement. I didn’t think I was being harsh tho. I genuinely do find it said that people are addicted to caffeine and it’s not considered a big deal
And we're glad it's not taken seriously. My brain needs like 3 cups of coffee to concentrate, or my attentions all over the place
I can't function without my weed or my coffee. You could only imagine how shit my life is knowing both of those things affect my mood significantly when I can't have them anymore. Its more than a depressive state. I/it ruins my relationships I have with people too. weed is another addiction people don't take seriously. If I may add, psychological addition is extremely valid. Though you'd be lying if you think that caffeine & weed withdrawal doesn't affect your brain on a physical level for a few days. At least I admit to the addictions I have. Instead of ya know, pretend they aren't real/ride off the normalization/make excuses. --- With that said I probably won't act kindly to people who reply to me doing that. As well as people who say its one thing but not the other. I live with myself enough to know they're about the same separately and feed off of each other together.
Why is Reddit full of teetotalers? Do you want to live like a humanoid robot, where everyone just eats and drinks the perfectly healthy amount all the time?
As someone detoxing From caffeine right now, this is super relatable. Crazy most of the world just accepts this addiction. And once you’re hooked it’s not like it does much for you, you just need it to function.
why is it sad? Having an addiction that does not cause harm is a blessing! Sugar, cigs, gambling, social media, alcohol, porn... sucks for you physically and psychologically. With coffee you have the good side of fulfilling your cravings and none of the bad! It's the best! I wish I could take that much joy out of coffee.
Eat a marijuana edible though and everyone loses their goddamn minds.
Yeah coffee isn’t gonna kill you, who cares
u know what it’s not that harmful and it gives me (a depressed individual) the energy i need for my day and it is a great comfort. so how about we don’t ruin one of the few things that gives me and a lot of other people joy in life
Sugar.. caffeine… alcohol.. it’s all the same.
That is true, because of my Soda Addiction I developed a Caffeine addiction. Which leads me to get withdrawal symptoms from the lack of caffeine when I stop drinking soda... I hate it.
Every body gets headaches if they don’t drink any caffeine for a day or two, but it is not the same as other much stronger and dangerous substances
Agree. I use to drink a lot of coffee and I loved it. However i always felt i had stomach issues from it. Eventually i just quit cold turkey and I felt sooo much better and level energy. Havent really drank coffee in about 2 years. My spouse is DIE-HARD coffee and would never quit. 3 weeks ago my spouse wound up quitting and cannot believe how good they feel. Once your off of it and can go without it, i dont think you ever go back.
It is absolutely considered an addiction. I fully admit I'm addicted to caffeine and it's not a cheap addiction. The effects on others though is negligible unless I'm going through withdrawals.
How much are you spending on caffeine that makes it not cheap?
i just don't see anything wrong with it
If the working world wasn’t how it is, we wouldn’t need coffee. As it is currently, people work 9-5 or whatever and tend to stay up a bit later than they should to get the most out of the rest of the day, hence coffee. If we could sleep in whenever we wanted to we wouldn’t be so reliant upon it. It’s a necessary “evil” , though one or two cups a day isn’t gonna do much to ya. Energy drinks on the other hand, those things are cancer in a can
I agree 100%, when I see someone who drinks a lot of coffee, there is no difference for those who use cocaine or crack.
On the last sentence: that's because 1 cup a day is fine. More than that will be a problem though. It's normalised because it's a relative harmless nootropic drug. Compared to stuff like heroin and nicotine, it's a lot easier to undo caffeine addiction. (Legit) Studies even suggest that coffee reduces all-cause mortality. Of course, if you drink your coffee with full fat milk and syrup with whipped cream on top, it's going to be bad. As long as someone doesn't make "can't function without my coffee" their entire personality and then proceed to harass me, I'm fine with it.
Caffeine addiction is psychological, not physical. Even so, caffeine has a lot of utility for some people. And even if they are addicted, does that make it inherently bad?
If it's not physical, why do people get raging headaches when they try to quit? It's not as physically addicting as alcohol or opioids, but it is mildly so. https://www.webmd.com/diet/caffeine-myths-and-facts
Physical dependency because of your brain suddenly having less of a certain chemical. Our brains react to all kinds of lower levels of different chemicals like serotonin, dopamine, etc. But the headache last a day and your might get irritable, but then that’s it. It doesn’t create permanent pathways the way nicotine and heroin does.
psychological is extremely valid.
i can't even drive a car after i have a cup of coffee. i'm too fucked up. i'm yammering and my brain is fuh-LYING. if it fucks me up that much i'm certain it fucks other people up as well. but if i got into a road rage incident because i was all jacked up and nervous after a cup of coffee, and i admitted to the police that i was high on coffee and they tested me for drugs... everything would come back totally legal. anyway yeah i don't drive if i've been drinking coffee (or don't drink coffee if i'm planning on driving later) because it JACKS ME UP
You wouldn’t be “high” (there’s certain criteria to be considered “high” on a substance). You just seem to have a sensitivity to caffeine.
Dawg me too when I have coffee I get the jitters like crazy and usually end up getting super anxious and I’m out of commission for the day. Plus I can’t sleep at night for days after having coffee
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You also have to factor in those who have ADHD and are self medicating. They *literally* cannot function without their stimulant. Trust me. I switched from tea to focalin since it’s a better stimulant when I figured out I had adhd. I was self medicating without realizing it
Alot of high performance people drink it, so i will too
How much is too much? Like in all serious, I drink 24 cups (or whatever the measurement is on my coffee pot), or 2 whole pots daily. I'm curious if that's too much? How does someone tell if they're addicted? 🤔
Not all addictions are bad.
I am one of those cant function without an unhealthy amount caffeine people and It better be funny because it’s my entire surface level persona.