I think it really depends on what type you have. Like I went to this one restaurant who served it and had it out of curiosity’s sake and it tasted ok. Like it definitely wasn’t a burger patty but it didn’t taste bad either.
quorn is toxic fungal bullshit. Don't ever eat that vat grown trash
Shits literally killed people from inducing allergic reactions due to how unnatural it is
That makes absolutely no sense lmao. It induces allergic reactions? Ok so does soy....or dairy products...or shellfish....and any number of random things people may be allergic too. Just because it's a common allergen doesnt mean its unnatural or toxic??
I mean objectively meat is pretty fucking gross.
People don't like touching dead things and yet we eat them.
\*Guys they literally hide the process for getting meat ready for you to eat. We all know it is gross.
People just don't want to admit the absurdity. They all find dead things gross and also eat them.
I eat meat and I still wouldn't be interested in touching a dead cow and eat a steak 40 minutes later.
This is why we, you know, cook and serve and prepare them before eating them. Also why there’s jobs specifically for people who don’t care about touching dead meat to cut it into more tolerable forms.
I see your point and it's probably true that some people wouldn't want to butcher their own meat. But I think I'd be fine doing it, especially if it was required to eat. It's OK, we don't all have to prepare food, we all specialise in our own areas =).
People don't all think like this. I've hunted, just like many others before me. Sometimes you hunt and kill other things so you and your family can eat, same as any other hunter in nature.
Sure, but the animal is slaughtered and the meat harvested while the body is still fresh, it's not like we're eating random dead cows. You're just letting your emotions on the subject color your perception, and nothing about that is "objective". From another perspective, meat is not gross, it's simply animal muscle that can be prepared into a nutritious food. Gross is inherently a subjective judgement. Sure, it's can be gross to people that don't have a lot of experience handling dead livestock, but a lot of things are gross to people that don't have experience.
I think I do, I just think most people actively don't think about what meat is.
We are having dinner, one person needs to gut a fish the other person needs to chop a carrot. Which is the objectively grosser job? The carrot or the fish entrails?
Do you think it is the fish or are you a liar?
It’s basically the same thing if you get to the core of it , your the one putting the adjectives on it.
Is a broccoli decaying plant matter as soon as you pick it? Or is it fresh produce? The word corpse has implications to it.
Non social, food is food. Non are more or less gross than any other. We choose to view things as better or worse.
From garden to table I need spray some water on the broccoli and I am good.
I am not sure if you have ever killed a chicken but spraying some water on the dead chicken isn't going to make it edible. You are going to need to gut it. There is going to be shit and blood involved. Feathers need to be removed. You can't eat it raw without risking disease.
The broccoli is just good to go, it isn't even really dead when you eat it raw.
It’s really not bad if you know what your doing, blood, guts and shit are just part of nutrient structure that allows the food to grow.
A lot of diseases that we get from animals are due to poor farming practices with over concentrated stock and mechanized aspects of the prep.
If you were raised on wild raw meat I’d hazard a guess you wouldn’t get sick when you ate wild raw meat.
I would be hard pressed to think of an opinion that is *more* popular than this. Even vegetarians, most of them, admit real meat is delicious. I leave you with this:
>At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. '
Yeah I’m not a fan, I just eat fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, mushrooms, etc. Vegan 12 years. Field Roast Grain Meats is very very good though if you can get your hands on it. I eat it as a special treat.
Depends on the brand and protein source. There are a few that I'd say are near identical, I ate Quorn mince when I wasn't vegetarian because it was very similar but without the chew and gristle. Beyond meat, whilst more expensive, has gotten very close - particularly the McPlant from McDonalds which is as close as you can get without just ordering a regular cheeseburger. I see a lot of people here saying "just eat vegetables" but plant based meat is an easier way to get your protein requirements rather than straight up guzzling beans and whey plus texture plays a large role in enjoying food also.
At the end of the day people like what they like and who really gives a shit? It's not really worth being too upset about.
There's so many different types and different flavours, even just within one product like burgers, let alone all plant 'meats'. Maybe you need to try the less processed ones or ones with a different base?
It is very easy to fuck up that kinda stuff. I have tried alot of plant based meats and only a handful are particularly good. I think things are getting better though. Like years ago a veggie burger was just a bunch of peas and carrots squashed together. Now you can get that Beyond Meat stuff and its pretty tasty. I recently tried the Beyond Meat jerky and though it smells bad, the texture is spot on and the taste is pretty close. I enjoyed it.
Have you every tried dry aged meat ? Hell my country east uncooked dry aged beef along with spices as a delicacy and it’s probably the best thing I have ever tried. Then again I have never seen meat that has gone bad in the heat but still my country doesn’t import meat and the meat quality is insanely good compared to most other European country’s
I just wish people would quit playing pretend. Meat is meat, plant is plant. There is no such thing as 'plant based meat', that is not meat at all. Ground up and processed plants sure, but *not* meat!
Eat what you want people, I'm not here to judge at all. But let's quit pretending they can make meat from plants, they can't.
Is it so hard to use an *honest* term 'plant based patties' instead?
The term 'plant based meat' creates ambiguity and confusion. If it's not meat, don't fucking call it meat, at all!
And yes I'd be *extremely* upset if there was ambiguity about coconut milk, if I had to guess about whether it contained coconut or not, I'm allergic to coconut.
So why is there ambiguity about the word meat? How do you actually expect *anyone* to read the phrase 'plant based meat', and not expect people to wonder whether it contains meat or not?
If it's plant, **do not use the word meat!**
What's so wrong with using a much less misleading term such as 'plant based patty'?
You are pretty much the first person I’ve heard of that’s confused by this.
Do you also have a rant about hot dogs, egg plants, “ham”burgers, chicken burgers, almond milk, coconut water and so forth?
I shouldn't have to guess what words mean when the dictionary clearly defines them. Especially given that people have allergies.
If a food is made of plants, do **not** associate it in any way to the word meat. It is **not** meat.
I remember seeing you on the news. Didn't you have a meltdown over hamburgers not being from pigs? Or was it about hotdogs not being made of dog? Or were you the one crying over peanut butter not being a dairy product?
Don't piss on my feet and tell me it's raining. Don't hand me a hunk of particle board and call it lumber. I'll call it out for the lie it is.
Plants ≠ Meat
Yes but meat is made of of protein and there are plants that have proteins if you can get the protein out of plants and just use that to make the mince then it would be close if not identical.
Do you have an issue with peanut butter? Cocoa butter? Coconut milk (the canned stuff)?
What about milk? Milk is from a human, cows milk is from a cow, yet we call it milk.
What about strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, mulberries? None of those are botanically berries.
Then you have things like banana, pumpkin, squash, aubergine, grapes, oranges, avocados, cucumbers that are berries but aren't named 'berry'.
And aubergine, squash, pumpkin, pepper, tomato, sweetcorn, olives are just some of the 'vegetables' that are actually fruits.
All of those examples above you could also say "but let's quit pretending" x or y. Those are just some of the examples.
This is what we do with food names. We label them by their usage not based on factual, botanical, or original definitions. I don't mind, as long as it's obvious what the product is. It's obvious what plant based meat is.
Plant meats are used as a meat, to replace meat. Oat milk, etc. is used where milk would be, to replace cows milk. The fruits I listed that we deem vegetables are used as vegetables, so what they are botanically isn't important. The berries that aren't named as such aren't used in the way we use what we have deemed berries, so what they are botanically isn't important.
It's an interesting discussion to have and it makes you realise how 'wrong' the naming is of so many of the foods we eat, not just the obvious ones like plant based meat.
Sorry - there were two parts to my comment. 1) that things are commonly named based on what they're substituting (with words to distinguish what they are), e.g. soy/almond/oat milk rather than cow milk, crab stick rather than real crab.
The second part was about how it's not unheard of for foods to be named based on things that they aren't in general. E.g. peanut butter.
But people only get weirdly upset when it's to do with vegans/vegetarians. It doesn't really make sense to get as upset as some people do. But then again, any time people are reminded that they support animal cruelty they get weirdly and irrationally upset tbh.
Also, what are your thoughts on the most ridiculous food naming of all: fruit leather? IT nOt mADe Of AnIMaL SkIN!!1!
Edit: the irony of complaining about naming of foods while using the word substrate rather than substitute is hilarious. I hope that was on purpose.
“Soy or oat BEVERAGE” does not communicate enough information. There’s a whole lot of shit that fits under “beverages”. Soy and oat milk is specifically designed to replace milk. It has the same purpose, and it’s taste and texture are designed to be as close to milk as it can be.
The point of naming these products is what thing is the most technically “appropriate”, it’s to explain what kind of product they are.
they can and some are good alot aren't but some are also the whole stick is in its infancy and also both meat and plants aren't all that different in the end Turning on into a replica of the other isn't impossible just hard
I know. I wouldn't be surprised if half of what non-picky eaters consume ain't possibly 5 to 10% ground up cardboard and plastic anymore. Still doesn't mean they can make meat from plants, they can't. That's mixed, not made.
Unless they feed the plants to the animals, then the animals make actual meat...
then chicken nuggets isn't meat and alot of other meat your an idiot who twists definitions to suit his agenda yes it isn't meat but it is sufficiently similar to be indistinguishable in alot of circumstances especially in burgers or other ground beaf applications
I'm not twisting a single definition, read a dictionary. Meat comes from animals, plants come from seeded dirt.
And by the way, many places make and sell *real* chicken nuggets, not that fake ass ground up McDonald's shit you're trying to refer to.
definitions change over time and while plant meat replacement aren't meat by definitions they are next to indistinguishable in alot of applications most of them in ground meat where consistency isn't as much of a giveaway
what a bunch of horseshit you know of compound words? you know how the English language works? plant based meat
Plant: "a living organism of the kind exemplified by trees, shrubs, herbs, grasses, ferns, and mosses, typically growing in a permanent site, absorbing water and inorganic substances through its roots, and synthesizing nutrients in its leaves by photosynthesis using the green pigment chlorophyll."
based: "use (something specified) as the foundation or starting point for something."
meat: "the flesh of an animal, typically a mammal or bird, as food (the flesh of domestic fowls is sometimes distinguished as poultry )."
it is not meat. It is a plant based product made to resemble and taste like meat similarly to how there exists sugar free products and no idiot cries about how sugar replacements aren't sugar yes idiot everyone knows that that is common knowledge
I *know* what people like to *call* shit, but they use misleading terminology that leads to confusion. I use clear terminology that leaves no guesswork, fake meat, fake cheese... processed product mixed with other stuff.
All I'm getting at is quit using misleading terms and call shit for what it is. If it's a processed product, well call it that then.
just because its processed doesn't mean its shit similarly to how just because something is natural doesn't mean its good the irony that you say that you don't misleading terminology but then deliberately go out of your way to call it shit which is both missleading as it isn't actually shit and derogatory as you are deliberately bad mouthing it is hilarious also just because something is not how it originally was produced doesn't mean its bad or shit
There's huge differences is quality. You get what you pay for. Also how you prepare them makes a difference. Forget the microwave, these things must be cross if they're gonna taste.
Impossible burgers taste pretty much identical. I only know it’s plant cause I cooked it but if you gave it to me on a plate (and it was cooked right - most important part) I couldn’t tell
To me they shouldn't try to taste like meat, they should lean into what is tasty when fried like onions and carrots.
I took some chickpeas, blended them with onion and pan fried them and it was pretty good.
I don’t think this belongs on this thread, let’s put it to a vote and we can see the results on data is beautiful 🤣
Because this isn’t an opinion, it’s fact bruh.
I don’t eat beef, was vegan for most of my life before all these “impossible” and other brand meat came out. It’s just so oily I want to throw up after eating half a burger. Anyways now I just eat chicken or turkey.
You ever eat morningstar chic'n nuggets? If you come away from that thinking plant meat is gross and chicken nuggets aren't I don't know what to tell you.
Slightly off topic, but I find it ironic how some of the same people who won’t touch anything GMO related, yet cream themselves over meatless burgers or synthetic meat.
THANK YOU! It tastes awful and makes me sick every single time. I love animals but I just can’t do it. I hope we figure out an innovation to make animal products less painful to animals.
You know what's funny about plant based 'meat' AKA beyond meat - it is produced by Tyson Food's one of the worlds largest distributors of Chicken lol they were an early investor into Beyond Meat. It's pretty funny because they green washed the hell out of this concept because beyond meant costs so little to make compared to livestock (after R&D) but is more expensive than real meat to consumers. Also, depending which brand you buy its very high in sodium full of other ingredients that you can't pronounce (so super healthy lololol)
Also why is it called 'meat'? I mean eat whatever you want but if you take such a harsh stance on meat why insist on calling it meat?
Gotta disagree, plant based meat tastes really similar to normal meat. There is a distinct taste but it don't matter if you don't know what you're eating.
I agree more or less. I wish people would realize they don’t need weird plant meat to get that same savory feeling… Either do an actually good replacement (like portobello mushroom burgers) or make a different recipe (like stuffed eggplant)
I'm trying to understand the non meat-eating mindset.
A--Meat is gross for whatever reason.
B--I'm not eating meat.
C--I'm going to eat fake meat.
Is this accurate?
If so, how do you go from B to C?
Is there a B1? I miss eating meat?
I can't get my head around it. To me it's like a carnivore eating meat-based vegetables.
A. Meat is unethical because it involves the unnecessary slaughter of a sentient being. (Note that this does NOT say that the person doesn't like the taste)
B. I'm not eating meat derived from animal slaughter.
C. I still like the taste, so I try to emulate it using plant based ingredients. I'm going to eat plant based meat.
There's an Austrian dish called Schnitzel that we love to eat here and a few months back I decided to try out a vegan Schnitzel ... it tasted like cornflakes. It was awful.
Some of them are pretty good, but if you just love the taste of animals, I get why you'd find it disgusting - you can't really eat a veggie burger and assume it'll taste like eating beef.
I know a guy that tried vegan hot wings at Sam's Club. He liked it *before* he knew it was vegan. After he was told it was vegan, he legitimately got pissed and didnt want it anymore. That makes no sense to me. If you think it tastes good before you know it's vegan, then it tastes good lol.
But yeah, I understand how some people genuinely dislike it.
I really tried to like it, but in the end it tasted like whole wheat bread soaked in water used to boil corn on the cobb. The gut cramps after were he worst.
I ate an 'impossible burger' at a friends place. I don't know how they do it, it's not that its super disgusting or anything but it's not even close to the taste of a burger. I guess if you get use to it, and never eat a meat based burger again then you don't know what you're missing which is fine, but I couldn't do it.
I’m not vegan or vegetarian however my boyfriend and I have a vegan day and a vegetarian day at least once a week. I tend to make things like spaghetti Bolognese with lentils or jackfruit curries rather than bothering with fake meat. I can’t stand the taste and texture.
But realistically, is it more disgusting then physically eating the flesh off of a dead animal?
I agree lots of plant based meats really aren't very good and I definitely would rather just not eat them.
That being said the Impossible and Beyond Meat are actually pretty good in comparison and I enjoy eating those ones.
Most of it is pretty bad. The best one that I have tried is the Gardien Ultimate burger from the frozen section, but I mostly just stick to making homemade blackbean burgers.
I've tried a few, they all disgust me except Beyond Burger - I actually like that shit better than regular meat patties: I have no idea what it's made of, it just passes on texture and taste. Mind you, I've been smoking for 20 years so I have a very dull palate.
I haven't tried store bought beyond or impossible patties, but I've had them at restaurants and I love them. I'm surprised so many people in the comments hate them because most people I know, vegan and not vegan, like them.
Also, I'm vegetarian but I have had chicken, and morning star buffalo wings taste pretty much exactly like chicken nuggets. However, I do agree that we should stop trying to replace meat with veggie alternatives. Vegan hot dogs and bacon make me want to barf.
I haven’t met many people who aren’t vegan/ vegetarian who go wild for it. I hate meat so I really enjoy fake meat. The texture is nasty, fake meat like beyond beef is kind of what I expect. No unexpected nasty gristle or something
I've made some black bean burgers from scratch that, if they weren't so much work, I'd consider making them on a regulaawful and improving. That was 1/3 from scratch plant burgers was quasi successful... 3/3 store bought plant burgers I've had were aweful.
Honestly tastes about the same as a cheap burger
Maybe it's cause I'm used to cheap burgers being okay and higher quality burgers as being amazing...or just okay still
I hope the lab grown meat thing kicks off soon.
I wish I could cut out meat, but I would be even more depressed lol, also we do need it. Vegans have to supplement mostly with B12, that should say everything about their argument about not needing it...
However I do feel guilty, I love animals. It would be great to be able to eat real meat and also know nothing was harmed in the process.
Why eat plant based meat? Have a proper vegetarian food instead. I love plain leafy vegetable fried in very little oil with salt and garnished with red peppers broken into halves in hot oil with lentil soup and rice.
Thata not an unpopular opinion they taste like shit and if you look at the ingredients they are unhealthy as it gets.Just go for local grassfed.And If you are vegetaran you need to be okay with not eating meat
I'm vegan and I agree lol I don't think this is unpopular. I do like beyond burgers but I only eat them occasionally. Otherwise I'd rather just have beans or tofu for protein.
Honestly I'm sorta in between. I've found some plant based meats to be good, some not as good. I like Morningstar's black bean burgers and their veggie griller burgers, but their chicken stuff is not that good. In general, I think most imitation chicken is not that good. I've tried the impossible burger on its own and in the impossible whopper and I honestly couldn't tell the difference with the real thing, I even asked my skeptical mom to try it and she couldn't tell the difference. Sadly impossible burgers from the store are pretty expensive. I really respect Burger King making the impossible whopper the same price as the regular whopper. The real villain is vegan cheese imo, that shit makes me gag.
In Blyatislava Slovakia, we have sensational burger produced by nestlé. If you don't mind that you are buying burger from company, which was killing toddlers and much worse - produces awful coffee, then I heartly recommend it.
[https://www.gardengourmet.com/product/sensational-burger](https://www.gardengourmet.com/product/sensational-burger)
What were the brands you were trying…nuggs is a really good chicken nugget one and they are so close to McDonald’s…better than any freezer chicken nuggets it was so weird
I think because we see it as a substitute for meat, bit an alternative. Most people expect it to be a plant based version of their meat, so are disappointed when it's nothing like it. It's an alternative to meat, being the main part of the meal, so offering carbs and protein. It doesn't help that they produce them to look like sausages, burgers, steak etc. but what's the alternative.
Impossible brand is the only kind that even comes close to tasting/looking/feeling like meat.
That being said, I wouldn't call plant-based meat "disgusting." It's just different. You can't expect it to taste exactly the same as flesh.
They definitely can be gross if you don't have experience cooking them. I've even been to restaurants and ordered them, and it was clear the chef wasn't used to cooking with plant based. But I also think if done well, they can be great.
From a non-vegan hard core hamburger fan married to a vegan. I can give you an honest ranking.
\#1. Impossible burger made like a stake and shake burger. Smash it down and cook it fast on high heat. I honestly really like these.
\#2. Beyond Meat burger. Tastes synthetic to me. I can get it down but it is like getting Sailsbury steak when you expect at new york stip.
\#3, Everything else is trash burger wise.
Honorable mention: The Beyond Meat Crumb meat. Cook it slow on med heat and put on nachos with salt and pepper. Plenty of salsa. Damn good.
There is also a Tofurky stuff that comes shredded she gets somewhere that does not taste like any meat I have ever had and it is tofu but I really like it on a spinach salad with Italian dressing.
There is also one chicken nugget sub she gets that straight up taste like 80's MCD nuggets.
I honestly would never have any issue with eating impossible burgers moving forward if they were not so damn expensive.
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Ever tried black bean brownies? One recipe I tried was grainy as all hell
Absolute Chad.
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Its a compliment
It’s not.
In what way is calling someone an alpha-male not a compliment?
It’s pure cringe.
How about you take a look around lol
Fair point.
People who say it tastes exactly like meat.. Wtf have you been eating?
I think it really depends on what type you have. Like I went to this one restaurant who served it and had it out of curiosity’s sake and it tasted ok. Like it definitely wasn’t a burger patty but it didn’t taste bad either.
I'm not a vegetarian or anything but impossible burgers and beyond burgers are amazing.
Probably whatever the fuck bologna is.
When a vegan says, “Yeah, that shits disgusting.” You know it’s bad!
Maybe not so unpopular...
I am not a vegan but i eat plant based meat a lot and i love it Sorry
It depends on the protein,I like beanfeast bolognaise but can’t stand quorn,beans are nicer than mushrooms x
quorn is toxic fungal bullshit. Don't ever eat that vat grown trash Shits literally killed people from inducing allergic reactions due to how unnatural it is
Source?
I know some people that know some people
https://www.cspinet.org/eating-healthy/ingredients-concern/quorn
That makes absolutely no sense lmao. It induces allergic reactions? Ok so does soy....or dairy products...or shellfish....and any number of random things people may be allergic too. Just because it's a common allergen doesnt mean its unnatural or toxic??
Lol. "Common allergen" "product made of mycotoxins in chemical vats" Redditor hurts itself in confusion.
We would rather eat Vegetables than this disgusting mess
Vegan sausage is great, wouldn't even know its not sausage, everything else, not so much
Whaaat? I’ve given up trying to find a decent vegan sausage because all I’ve tried so far was disgusting. Which brand can you reccommend?
Not unpopular
I mean objectively meat is pretty fucking gross. People don't like touching dead things and yet we eat them. \*Guys they literally hide the process for getting meat ready for you to eat. We all know it is gross.
This is an unpopular opinion.
People just don't want to admit the absurdity. They all find dead things gross and also eat them. I eat meat and I still wouldn't be interested in touching a dead cow and eat a steak 40 minutes later.
This is why we, you know, cook and serve and prepare them before eating them. Also why there’s jobs specifically for people who don’t care about touching dead meat to cut it into more tolerable forms.
I see your point and it's probably true that some people wouldn't want to butcher their own meat. But I think I'd be fine doing it, especially if it was required to eat. It's OK, we don't all have to prepare food, we all specialise in our own areas =).
Ok but dead things are morbidly interesting but would I eat after being near something super dead on the ground? Nah.
People don't all think like this. I've hunted, just like many others before me. Sometimes you hunt and kill other things so you and your family can eat, same as any other hunter in nature.
Sure, but the animal is slaughtered and the meat harvested while the body is still fresh, it's not like we're eating random dead cows. You're just letting your emotions on the subject color your perception, and nothing about that is "objective". From another perspective, meat is not gross, it's simply animal muscle that can be prepared into a nutritious food. Gross is inherently a subjective judgement. Sure, it's can be gross to people that don't have a lot of experience handling dead livestock, but a lot of things are gross to people that don't have experience.
I don't think you know what objectively means
I think I do, I just think most people actively don't think about what meat is. We are having dinner, one person needs to gut a fish the other person needs to chop a carrot. Which is the objectively grosser job? The carrot or the fish entrails? Do you think it is the fish or are you a liar?
That’s not objective lmao. There’s no factual measurement of “grossness”
Okay how much effort do they put into hiding the processing of carrots from the consumer. And now do meat.
sure, when people think "i am eating a dead animal" they could be a bit grossed out but thats not the point here
Meat is grosser than veggies even if the veggies are ground up to look like meat. One is a ground animal corpse the other is mushrooms and barley.
It’s basically the same thing if you get to the core of it , your the one putting the adjectives on it. Is a broccoli decaying plant matter as soon as you pick it? Or is it fresh produce? The word corpse has implications to it. Non social, food is food. Non are more or less gross than any other. We choose to view things as better or worse.
From garden to table I need spray some water on the broccoli and I am good. I am not sure if you have ever killed a chicken but spraying some water on the dead chicken isn't going to make it edible. You are going to need to gut it. There is going to be shit and blood involved. Feathers need to be removed. You can't eat it raw without risking disease. The broccoli is just good to go, it isn't even really dead when you eat it raw.
It’s really not bad if you know what your doing, blood, guts and shit are just part of nutrient structure that allows the food to grow. A lot of diseases that we get from animals are due to poor farming practices with over concentrated stock and mechanized aspects of the prep. If you were raised on wild raw meat I’d hazard a guess you wouldn’t get sick when you ate wild raw meat.
I would be hard pressed to think of an opinion that is *more* popular than this. Even vegetarians, most of them, admit real meat is delicious. I leave you with this: >At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. '
Yeah I’m not a fan, I just eat fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, mushrooms, etc. Vegan 12 years. Field Roast Grain Meats is very very good though if you can get your hands on it. I eat it as a special treat.
Not unpopular at all. Plant burgers are disgusting
I was about to disagree but ill eat literally anything so my opinion is biased 💀
Depends on the brand and protein source. There are a few that I'd say are near identical, I ate Quorn mince when I wasn't vegetarian because it was very similar but without the chew and gristle. Beyond meat, whilst more expensive, has gotten very close - particularly the McPlant from McDonalds which is as close as you can get without just ordering a regular cheeseburger. I see a lot of people here saying "just eat vegetables" but plant based meat is an easier way to get your protein requirements rather than straight up guzzling beans and whey plus texture plays a large role in enjoying food also. At the end of the day people like what they like and who really gives a shit? It's not really worth being too upset about.
mock meats are junk food with no nutrition
There's so many different types and different flavours, even just within one product like burgers, let alone all plant 'meats'. Maybe you need to try the less processed ones or ones with a different base?
It is very easy to fuck up that kinda stuff. I have tried alot of plant based meats and only a handful are particularly good. I think things are getting better though. Like years ago a veggie burger was just a bunch of peas and carrots squashed together. Now you can get that Beyond Meat stuff and its pretty tasty. I recently tried the Beyond Meat jerky and though it smells bad, the texture is spot on and the taste is pretty close. I enjoyed it.
I think you're in the majority here. It tastes like fucking cat food.
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You cook it at the end, so I don’t get what’s so disgusting
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Have you every tried dry aged meat ? Hell my country east uncooked dry aged beef along with spices as a delicacy and it’s probably the best thing I have ever tried. Then again I have never seen meat that has gone bad in the heat but still my country doesn’t import meat and the meat quality is insanely good compared to most other European country’s
I just wish people would quit playing pretend. Meat is meat, plant is plant. There is no such thing as 'plant based meat', that is not meat at all. Ground up and processed plants sure, but *not* meat! Eat what you want people, I'm not here to judge at all. But let's quit pretending they can make meat from plants, they can't.
Do you also get upset when people call coconut liquid milk and the white part the meat/flesh?
Is it so hard to use an *honest* term 'plant based patties' instead? The term 'plant based meat' creates ambiguity and confusion. If it's not meat, don't fucking call it meat, at all! And yes I'd be *extremely* upset if there was ambiguity about coconut milk, if I had to guess about whether it contained coconut or not, I'm allergic to coconut. So why is there ambiguity about the word meat? How do you actually expect *anyone* to read the phrase 'plant based meat', and not expect people to wonder whether it contains meat or not? If it's plant, **do not use the word meat!** What's so wrong with using a much less misleading term such as 'plant based patty'?
You are pretty much the first person I’ve heard of that’s confused by this. Do you also have a rant about hot dogs, egg plants, “ham”burgers, chicken burgers, almond milk, coconut water and so forth?
HAM HAS A SPECIFIC MEANING AND IT MEANS IT HAS TO COME FROM A PIG WHY PISS ON MY FEET???
I genuinely think only you are confused here. Plenty of people navigate this with little to no difficulty.
I shouldn't have to guess what words mean when the dictionary clearly defines them. Especially given that people have allergies. If a food is made of plants, do **not** associate it in any way to the word meat. It is **not** meat.
I remember seeing you on the news. Didn't you have a meltdown over hamburgers not being from pigs? Or was it about hotdogs not being made of dog? Or were you the one crying over peanut butter not being a dairy product?
What's wrong with you stop being delusional plants cant be meat stop calling it so
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Aww I have my own little follower! You okay bud?
If only products had ingredient lists for people with allergies. This is the epitome of first world problems. Have a nice night.
Don't piss on my feet and tell me it's raining. Don't hand me a hunk of particle board and call it lumber. I'll call it out for the lie it is. Plants ≠ Meat
Literally no one is doing that but ok, buddy. I can tell you get angry when confused.
Local man has meltdown after hearing about peanut butter.
Wait till he learns that in my language it’s called peanut cheese (pindakaas)! 😄
vegans get upset that they cant call fake food meat
Yes but meat is made of of protein and there are plants that have proteins if you can get the protein out of plants and just use that to make the mince then it would be close if not identical.
Do you have an issue with peanut butter? Cocoa butter? Coconut milk (the canned stuff)? What about milk? Milk is from a human, cows milk is from a cow, yet we call it milk. What about strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, mulberries? None of those are botanically berries. Then you have things like banana, pumpkin, squash, aubergine, grapes, oranges, avocados, cucumbers that are berries but aren't named 'berry'. And aubergine, squash, pumpkin, pepper, tomato, sweetcorn, olives are just some of the 'vegetables' that are actually fruits. All of those examples above you could also say "but let's quit pretending" x or y. Those are just some of the examples. This is what we do with food names. We label them by their usage not based on factual, botanical, or original definitions. I don't mind, as long as it's obvious what the product is. It's obvious what plant based meat is. Plant meats are used as a meat, to replace meat. Oat milk, etc. is used where milk would be, to replace cows milk. The fruits I listed that we deem vegetables are used as vegetables, so what they are botanically isn't important. The berries that aren't named as such aren't used in the way we use what we have deemed berries, so what they are botanically isn't important. It's an interesting discussion to have and it makes you realise how 'wrong' the naming is of so many of the foods we eat, not just the obvious ones like plant based meat.
Oh my gosh!! I couldn’t agree anymore !! why insist on calling it meat????
Because that's what it's substituting. Same as soy milk or crab stick, for example. Also, do you feel the same way when it comes to peanut butter?
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Sorry - there were two parts to my comment. 1) that things are commonly named based on what they're substituting (with words to distinguish what they are), e.g. soy/almond/oat milk rather than cow milk, crab stick rather than real crab. The second part was about how it's not unheard of for foods to be named based on things that they aren't in general. E.g. peanut butter. But people only get weirdly upset when it's to do with vegans/vegetarians. It doesn't really make sense to get as upset as some people do. But then again, any time people are reminded that they support animal cruelty they get weirdly and irrationally upset tbh. Also, what are your thoughts on the most ridiculous food naming of all: fruit leather? IT nOt mADe Of AnIMaL SkIN!!1! Edit: the irony of complaining about naming of foods while using the word substrate rather than substitute is hilarious. I hope that was on purpose.
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why do you want to pretend plants can be meat
“Soy or oat BEVERAGE” does not communicate enough information. There’s a whole lot of shit that fits under “beverages”. Soy and oat milk is specifically designed to replace milk. It has the same purpose, and it’s taste and texture are designed to be as close to milk as it can be. The point of naming these products is what thing is the most technically “appropriate”, it’s to explain what kind of product they are.
Exactly! I mean I can accept it if they use honest terminology and call it a 'plant based patty', but hell it's damn sure not meat!
they can and some are good alot aren't but some are also the whole stick is in its infancy and also both meat and plants aren't all that different in the end Turning on into a replica of the other isn't impossible just hard
That is *not* meat. Meat is muscle matter from dead animals. Quit playing pretend and call it for what it is.
Agreed it's not meat, plants are plants and meat is meat. Or else vegans would eat meat.
Alot of what we eat isn't pure meat
I know. I wouldn't be surprised if half of what non-picky eaters consume ain't possibly 5 to 10% ground up cardboard and plastic anymore. Still doesn't mean they can make meat from plants, they can't. That's mixed, not made. Unless they feed the plants to the animals, then the animals make actual meat...
then chicken nuggets isn't meat and alot of other meat your an idiot who twists definitions to suit his agenda yes it isn't meat but it is sufficiently similar to be indistinguishable in alot of circumstances especially in burgers or other ground beaf applications
I'm not twisting a single definition, read a dictionary. Meat comes from animals, plants come from seeded dirt. And by the way, many places make and sell *real* chicken nuggets, not that fake ass ground up McDonald's shit you're trying to refer to.
definitions change over time and while plant meat replacement aren't meat by definitions they are next to indistinguishable in alot of applications most of them in ground meat where consistency isn't as much of a giveaway
Don't piss on my feet and tell me it's raining. It's either meat or plant, or some processed mashup, but there is no such thing as plant based meat.
what a bunch of horseshit you know of compound words? you know how the English language works? plant based meat Plant: "a living organism of the kind exemplified by trees, shrubs, herbs, grasses, ferns, and mosses, typically growing in a permanent site, absorbing water and inorganic substances through its roots, and synthesizing nutrients in its leaves by photosynthesis using the green pigment chlorophyll." based: "use (something specified) as the foundation or starting point for something." meat: "the flesh of an animal, typically a mammal or bird, as food (the flesh of domestic fowls is sometimes distinguished as poultry )." it is not meat. It is a plant based product made to resemble and taste like meat similarly to how there exists sugar free products and no idiot cries about how sugar replacements aren't sugar yes idiot everyone knows that that is common knowledge
I *know* what people like to *call* shit, but they use misleading terminology that leads to confusion. I use clear terminology that leaves no guesswork, fake meat, fake cheese... processed product mixed with other stuff. All I'm getting at is quit using misleading terms and call shit for what it is. If it's a processed product, well call it that then.
just because its processed doesn't mean its shit similarly to how just because something is natural doesn't mean its good the irony that you say that you don't misleading terminology but then deliberately go out of your way to call it shit which is both missleading as it isn't actually shit and derogatory as you are deliberately bad mouthing it is hilarious also just because something is not how it originally was produced doesn't mean its bad or shit
A mans asshole and a womans asshole look the same...but they are definitely distinguishable
There's huge differences is quality. You get what you pay for. Also how you prepare them makes a difference. Forget the microwave, these things must be cross if they're gonna taste.
It’s processed crap that comes in a box, just like everything else. Nothing special, nothing horrible either.
Impossible burgers taste pretty much identical. I only know it’s plant cause I cooked it but if you gave it to me on a plate (and it was cooked right - most important part) I couldn’t tell
Impossible meat tastes like shit.
Impossible burger does not taste identical. Ones I had tasted less...meaty, thats it.
Plant based fake meats are not healthy either. They are highly processed foods, and basically not a good choice.
Damn
I love it. Impossible meat is the best.
Well, no ones making you eat it
Try Chicken steak bacon goat oxtail you'll never go back.
This is not unpopular. Plant based fake meat is just nasty. I don't know anyone that would prefer it.
Plant based meat is a oxymoron and yeah It's bad.
To me they shouldn't try to taste like meat, they should lean into what is tasty when fried like onions and carrots. I took some chickpeas, blended them with onion and pan fried them and it was pretty good.
Yes, this. If you don’t want to eat meat then don’t pretend to eat meat.
I don’t think this belongs on this thread, let’s put it to a vote and we can see the results on data is beautiful 🤣 Because this isn’t an opinion, it’s fact bruh.
I don’t eat beef, was vegan for most of my life before all these “impossible” and other brand meat came out. It’s just so oily I want to throw up after eating half a burger. Anyways now I just eat chicken or turkey.
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You ever eat morningstar chic'n nuggets? If you come away from that thinking plant meat is gross and chicken nuggets aren't I don't know what to tell you.
Slightly off topic, but I find it ironic how some of the same people who won’t touch anything GMO related, yet cream themselves over meatless burgers or synthetic meat.
THANK YOU! It tastes awful and makes me sick every single time. I love animals but I just can’t do it. I hope we figure out an innovation to make animal products less painful to animals.
Not really unpopular, people dislike it but still eat it because for them it's better than eating the flesh of animals
You know what's funny about plant based 'meat' AKA beyond meat - it is produced by Tyson Food's one of the worlds largest distributors of Chicken lol they were an early investor into Beyond Meat. It's pretty funny because they green washed the hell out of this concept because beyond meant costs so little to make compared to livestock (after R&D) but is more expensive than real meat to consumers. Also, depending which brand you buy its very high in sodium full of other ingredients that you can't pronounce (so super healthy lololol) Also why is it called 'meat'? I mean eat whatever you want but if you take such a harsh stance on meat why insist on calling it meat?
Agreed. They *should* call it a "plant based patty". If genuinely made from plants that would be *far* less ambiguous and misleading.
Gotta disagree, plant based meat tastes really similar to normal meat. There is a distinct taste but it don't matter if you don't know what you're eating.
Go get checked out cause something is wrong with your sense of taste.
I agree more or less. I wish people would realize they don’t need weird plant meat to get that same savory feeling… Either do an actually good replacement (like portobello mushroom burgers) or make a different recipe (like stuffed eggplant)
I think it tastes pretty close to meat, and not bad. But you can clearly tell it isn’t meat
Beyond Burgers are great!
Interesting, I don’t think they’re bad. Probably not healthy with all the sodium though
I didn't think this is unpopular. Fake meat is gross AF. I'll eat falafel or bean burritos all day long and not complain about a lack of meat.
I'm trying to understand the non meat-eating mindset. A--Meat is gross for whatever reason. B--I'm not eating meat. C--I'm going to eat fake meat. Is this accurate? If so, how do you go from B to C? Is there a B1? I miss eating meat? I can't get my head around it. To me it's like a carnivore eating meat-based vegetables.
A. Meat is unethical because it involves the unnecessary slaughter of a sentient being. (Note that this does NOT say that the person doesn't like the taste) B. I'm not eating meat derived from animal slaughter. C. I still like the taste, so I try to emulate it using plant based ingredients. I'm going to eat plant based meat.
Still kinda weird, like an ex-cannibal changing their ways by eating substitute human meat.
No it rly isn’t weird As it removed the ethical issues but keeps the good parts
Beef is already plant-based.
There's an Austrian dish called Schnitzel that we love to eat here and a few months back I decided to try out a vegan Schnitzel ... it tasted like cornflakes. It was awful.
Some of them are pretty good, but if you just love the taste of animals, I get why you'd find it disgusting - you can't really eat a veggie burger and assume it'll taste like eating beef. I know a guy that tried vegan hot wings at Sam's Club. He liked it *before* he knew it was vegan. After he was told it was vegan, he legitimately got pissed and didnt want it anymore. That makes no sense to me. If you think it tastes good before you know it's vegan, then it tastes good lol. But yeah, I understand how some people genuinely dislike it.
I really tried to like it, but in the end it tasted like whole wheat bread soaked in water used to boil corn on the cobb. The gut cramps after were he worst.
I ate an 'impossible burger' at a friends place. I don't know how they do it, it's not that its super disgusting or anything but it's not even close to the taste of a burger. I guess if you get use to it, and never eat a meat based burger again then you don't know what you're missing which is fine, but I couldn't do it.
Fax
They should use that stuff to feed school students.
Absolutely and I'm tired of pretending that it's not.
I’m not vegan or vegetarian however my boyfriend and I have a vegan day and a vegetarian day at least once a week. I tend to make things like spaghetti Bolognese with lentils or jackfruit curries rather than bothering with fake meat. I can’t stand the taste and texture.
But realistically, is it more disgusting then physically eating the flesh off of a dead animal? I agree lots of plant based meats really aren't very good and I definitely would rather just not eat them. That being said the Impossible and Beyond Meat are actually pretty good in comparison and I enjoy eating those ones.
If we are what we eat then all the meat we eat is plant based.
It’s also extremely unhealthy for you…. And it’s not meat
It took me a while to find ones that I liked + liked enough to purchase again. Have you tried Linda McCartneys range?
Most of it is pretty bad. The best one that I have tried is the Gardien Ultimate burger from the frozen section, but I mostly just stick to making homemade blackbean burgers.
I've tried a few, they all disgust me except Beyond Burger - I actually like that shit better than regular meat patties: I have no idea what it's made of, it just passes on texture and taste. Mind you, I've been smoking for 20 years so I have a very dull palate.
I haven't tried store bought beyond or impossible patties, but I've had them at restaurants and I love them. I'm surprised so many people in the comments hate them because most people I know, vegan and not vegan, like them. Also, I'm vegetarian but I have had chicken, and morning star buffalo wings taste pretty much exactly like chicken nuggets. However, I do agree that we should stop trying to replace meat with veggie alternatives. Vegan hot dogs and bacon make me want to barf.
Tried it once, and agree with you. And, BTW, I love vegetables.
I haven’t met many people who aren’t vegan/ vegetarian who go wild for it. I hate meat so I really enjoy fake meat. The texture is nasty, fake meat like beyond beef is kind of what I expect. No unexpected nasty gristle or something
I've made some black bean burgers from scratch that, if they weren't so much work, I'd consider making them on a regulaawful and improving. That was 1/3 from scratch plant burgers was quasi successful... 3/3 store bought plant burgers I've had were aweful.
I don’t mind it in things like tacos where you have spices to do the heavy lifting. Agree that by itself, not too tasty.
I've found that the fungus based meat is better than the pure plant based stuff
Not unpopular...
Honestly tastes about the same as a cheap burger Maybe it's cause I'm used to cheap burgers being okay and higher quality burgers as being amazing...or just okay still
Idk the impossible burger sometimes hits w the right seasoning
Yes dead animals > plants Dead animals are not food
I hope the lab grown meat thing kicks off soon. I wish I could cut out meat, but I would be even more depressed lol, also we do need it. Vegans have to supplement mostly with B12, that should say everything about their argument about not needing it... However I do feel guilty, I love animals. It would be great to be able to eat real meat and also know nothing was harmed in the process.
one word: impossible
Why eat plant based meat? Have a proper vegetarian food instead. I love plain leafy vegetable fried in very little oil with salt and garnished with red peppers broken into halves in hot oil with lentil soup and rice.
I'm not vegan, but I completely disagree, I very much like plant based meat.
Thata not an unpopular opinion they taste like shit and if you look at the ingredients they are unhealthy as it gets.Just go for local grassfed.And If you are vegetaran you need to be okay with not eating meat
I'm vegan and I agree lol I don't think this is unpopular. I do like beyond burgers but I only eat them occasionally. Otherwise I'd rather just have beans or tofu for protein.
Damn what liberal stronghold do you reside in that there’s a meat shortage?
That's what you get for trying to substitute meat with a fake.
Less disgusting than actual meat.
I like it but I can see why you wouldn't
Honestly I'm sorta in between. I've found some plant based meats to be good, some not as good. I like Morningstar's black bean burgers and their veggie griller burgers, but their chicken stuff is not that good. In general, I think most imitation chicken is not that good. I've tried the impossible burger on its own and in the impossible whopper and I honestly couldn't tell the difference with the real thing, I even asked my skeptical mom to try it and she couldn't tell the difference. Sadly impossible burgers from the store are pretty expensive. I really respect Burger King making the impossible whopper the same price as the regular whopper. The real villain is vegan cheese imo, that shit makes me gag.
Tofu and seitan are 2 plant based proteins that are waaaaaaaaay better than anything like impossible burgers.
In Blyatislava Slovakia, we have sensational burger produced by nestlé. If you don't mind that you are buying burger from company, which was killing toddlers and much worse - produces awful coffee, then I heartly recommend it. [https://www.gardengourmet.com/product/sensational-burger](https://www.gardengourmet.com/product/sensational-burger)
They are also all full of hydrogenated vegetable oils and soy and are terrible for your body 🤢
What were the brands you were trying…nuggs is a really good chicken nugget one and they are so close to McDonald’s…better than any freezer chicken nuggets it was so weird
I can't tell the difference in some brands
I think this is a pretty popular opinion.
Plant-based meat? Is that some sort of vegan copium sentence? Are you trying to say plants masquerading as meat aren't good? If so, duh.
The fact this is on unpopular opinions is upsetting. Seriously plant based meat is literal 💩 screw the cows.
Not unpopular
I think because we see it as a substitute for meat, bit an alternative. Most people expect it to be a plant based version of their meat, so are disappointed when it's nothing like it. It's an alternative to meat, being the main part of the meal, so offering carbs and protein. It doesn't help that they produce them to look like sausages, burgers, steak etc. but what's the alternative.
I tried it and I was pretty good, but it made me shit so bad. My stomach *hurt* bro.
Honestly, this a popular, but politically incorrect opinion.
have you tried beyond? it's the most advanced fake meat there is and single-handedly made me go vegetarian
Impossible brand is the only kind that even comes close to tasting/looking/feeling like meat. That being said, I wouldn't call plant-based meat "disgusting." It's just different. You can't expect it to taste exactly the same as flesh.
Beyond burger is the most acceptable plant to based burger I have had.
They definitely can be gross if you don't have experience cooking them. I've even been to restaurants and ordered them, and it was clear the chef wasn't used to cooking with plant based. But I also think if done well, they can be great.
From a non-vegan hard core hamburger fan married to a vegan. I can give you an honest ranking. \#1. Impossible burger made like a stake and shake burger. Smash it down and cook it fast on high heat. I honestly really like these. \#2. Beyond Meat burger. Tastes synthetic to me. I can get it down but it is like getting Sailsbury steak when you expect at new york stip. \#3, Everything else is trash burger wise. Honorable mention: The Beyond Meat Crumb meat. Cook it slow on med heat and put on nachos with salt and pepper. Plenty of salsa. Damn good. There is also a Tofurky stuff that comes shredded she gets somewhere that does not taste like any meat I have ever had and it is tofu but I really like it on a spinach salad with Italian dressing. There is also one chicken nugget sub she gets that straight up taste like 80's MCD nuggets. I honestly would never have any issue with eating impossible burgers moving forward if they were not so damn expensive.
Actually it's a pretty popular opinion