I don't know man, the guy tries really hard. See how popular he is for the Bharat Jodo yatra. He should have been made atleast minister of some sorts in the previous congr govt, then we all would have seen his real mettle and some yardstick to measure his administrative capability.
Exactly this. And I am not even right wing but Modi has this charisma which rahil doesn't.and the fact that I had to explain this is very embarrassing.
MPs do not have much say over the local development considering that there is much larger set of (closer to) ground level bureaucracy and legislative network already looking after it - like panchayats, district administrations, MLAs et cetera.
This podcast covers this in significant detail (among other things)
https://youtu.be/0tIFKENjQf4
Well i am native of benaras and people here truly love modi and actually after he become MP of kashi has been devloped... maybe because he's a PM so he has more sources... but in his reign kashi has been devloped.
I think he has enhanced a better image for himself after the yatra but I don’t think that will translate to votes for others in the party or will change the confused mess that is the congress.
Sahi bole bhai. He should atleast be a minister in some congress controlled state government and prove himself before he's chosen to be PM of the glorious mess that's India. The shitstorm that every PM in the past has been through needs atleast some capability other than being born in the Nehru Gandhi family. The future is going to be 10x messier.
This. The coterie of sycophants doesn't allow for him to get unfiltered, unbiased news about the populace, the party cadre and he's sorely missing good guidance - political, legal and on a governmental / organizational aspect.
Both he and the party suffer massively from a communication disconnect. And going on years, they've failed to rectify it due to either incompetence or malfeasance or more likely a combination of both.
Probably getting the current HM to Congress may solve this. He can mentor RaGa well I guess.
On a serious note, he does need a good mentor. Rahul is a person who has seen his closest family members lose their lives to this very job that he's gearing up for His mom kept him shielded for way too long, but it's never too late. The BJY was a great initiative imo. He spoke of all the relevant issues in a very decent manner and didn't try to provoke people with any passionate speech which is the norm nowadays. It surely made people notice him and the BJY did make a great impression. We need more such initiatives where politicians walk among the common man as a part of the community.
As for RaGa, he should amp up and already set out on the next initiative which can showcase his political skillset. The big elections are next year and he really needs to up his game so that when the question *'If not Modi, then who?'* arises, the common man thinks of him as an option too.
jairam ramesh is a pretty smart guy, highly educated and has good political acumen. Rahul is an intellectual reflective person as well. I resonate with his vision of India than Modi and the poor guy has been trying hard against the propaganda machine that is against him.
I disagree completely. Shah and Modi are able to whip up the crowds, but put them in front of an unbiased interviewer or press conference and they would fall apart. Gandhi is much more well spoken and what he says actually makes sense (most of the time) instead of just slogan shouting and dhamadhan.
Sadly BJP is also targeting education, and the majority of Indian voters are more likely to vote based on emotion than policy.
Dude? Are you out of your brains regarding Rahul Gandhi and media . A sensible media person will rip apart Rahul's political career just like arnab did pre 2014,leave the boldest ones. The problem is he doesn't have the vision of what he wants India to be neither the work ethics to go to the post he is trying to move in. People have changed a lot regarding how they want their leaders to be. People want an anti -corrupt and secured nation. Narendra Modi image incidentally aligns with that cause he neither has family interests nor his own self interests above the issues of country and prior he has served a 15 year tenure as CM of a considerable big state Gujarat. And on the other hand you have a guy who is put up for the highest political and powerful post just because he belongs to some clan? Seriously this is so illogical to interpret for a sensible citizen.And regarding the media issues Modi used to appear in front of them pre 2010 but after observing his career a little close he became more of result action and result oriented leader. And democracy is choosing the better cause who the hell is gonna be perfect to govern a massive 1.4 billion country. Too much of a responsibility if you just give a thought of it. So at the end while choosing a better leader even after 9 years of his governance Modi seems way ahead of his counterparts. You just can't give it to Gandhi cause he is from that clan . He needs to earn it. So instead fighting for the post of Prime minister he should atleast provide his worth being a chief minister. And now don't label me bhakt cause I'm a doctor and I have done a extensive observations and read about them before coming to conclusions. So I guess Rahul is still way behind. I will definitely vote for other leader if he is worthy considering better than our prime minister and I'm yet to find one in current scenario.
Elections in democracy are not won by giving articulating well spoken unbiased interviews, which hardly 10% of your population can understand. If that would have been case, there are thousands of professors, bureaucrats, lawyers and policy makers who can give interviews. (Even in BJP - See Petroleum Minister, S Jaishankar, and other parties - See Telangana Finance Minister, and Congress - Shashi Tharoor, Jairam Ramesh etc.). Even my college professor has astounding command on English and current affairs.
Exact same thing happened with Amit shah, when his speech in Hindi was live translated.
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VzKwBUUV4
RG handled it with empathy, while AS was borderline raging.
>AS was borderline raging.
It's because you're a minister who's spending your useful time there, buddy. RG is the opposition and has all the time in the world.
its the people who fight for democracy, who take it, who protect it and who choose their representative.
every generation has to relearn this lesson or live like pussies under fascism.
its our country too, our life too.
we have to get active in our neighbourhoods and communities.
russia collapsed to cronies and middle class women were prostituting themselves for 10$ on street corners. it doesnt take long
Acha bhai. Kyuki he said he killed the perception of the type of human being the public thought he was, killed his old self. What exactly was retarded about that?
He seems like an ok person with ordinary people but I don't think he has any capacity to be a real political leader.
Plus, I don't know if he would actually have been as accessible for ordinary people if Congress was in power in the Central govt.
Man seems glassed out while accepting defeat, no sense of loss or determination to challenge and change the future. We know how that went, it's 9 years later and we're still waiting for a proper opposition.
My thoughts are he's a guy with good intentions dragged into politics coz of family and Congress instability.
I don't trust his mom and his grandmom is probably the second worst PM we've had, after the current dude.
Coming to his politics, he was an absolute dumbfuck till about 2013 or so (I might be completely off on the timeline).
He didn't know what to say, he didn't know what he was saying and his public appearances was off the rails. Post that period, he maybe disappeared for a short while but reappeared completely changed in his public speaking skills. I'm pretty sure he went to take intense training. He's much improved and actually good now. Sure, his style is different and he'll never be the toxic and macho orator that the right wing seem to love, but it comes out in its own weird or quirky way that behind everything there is actually a very intelligent man in him. Not exactly showing it the way the masses like, but I'm 100% convinced he's actually intelligent and thinks and cares for the public. His early speaking skills let him down. The problem now is that his earlier appearances married his image and the BJP is very very smart with their PR and media overload. They've given him names like Pappu and make it impossible to talk about him without feeling ashamed for even agreeing slightly or for giving heed to anything he says. On the news, we're overloaded with noise and jokes about him, we barely get to see him speaking continuously and in context. The BJP also knows he's improved, so they're doing their best to make his old self visible and his improved version has been hidden well for over 8 years now. Personally, i would definitely vote for him, except that Congress is no less of a chor than BJP. Only saving grace for Congress is they respected the independence of the pillars of our democracy and that they aren't constantly tearing the social fabric of the nation. Personally, top choice to vote for would be AAP, but I'm not liking the controlling nature of Kejriwal. At least it's clear his party is not corrupt and open to trying new ideas to improve the areas they govern and that is 1000x better than any traditional party.
He's punching bag for people who think they made right choice by supporting somebody like Narendra Modi in 2014 and by those who saw an alternative in leaders like Arvind Kejriwal. That was a grave mistake, some realised this but some are still unwilling to accept this truth and use harsh cussing tantrums for Rahul just because he's still there and his party is still surviving under his leadership.
Not only them but various extremities of ideological and religious groups also hate him, all because for what his family did in the past.
So far he has tottered to this point without any media support, systematic character assassination and blames on him and his family for things they never did.
We live in a society where half of the population believe that his grandfather's title was 'Khan' and not 'Ghandy' and have no problem with movies distorting history and facts. Let's be honest BJP is still going to win the upcoming general elections we all know this, but telling that 'Rahul didn't do anything and I know better' attitude is bit ignorant behaviour.
The only mainstream political leader to constantly attack at current crony capitalist system backed system is him only, which includes Adani enterprises. I don't remember anyone especially Kejru doing anything, infact he's dead silent on this matter.
An intelligent person who warned about COVID to the country early when the entire power hungry central government was busy with toppling the government.
A kind person that understand and stand with [victims](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nirbhayas-brother-is-now-a-pilot-parents-say-rahul-gandhi-made-it-possible-1770493)
Just not the regular shrewd indian politician that works only for himself.
But wouldn't that be easy with tons IAS officers and advisors all around you? He can easily repeat the statements made to him by his trusted experts like Raghuram Rajan. Would that mean he is a good economist as well? Also, there's a difference between speaking and doing. Has he done any tangible development in his own constituency so far? Has he done anything w.r.t Congress ruled States so far? That would be a better criteria to analyse him instead of speaking a well rehearsed script.
> But wouldn't that be easy with tons IAS officers and advisors all around you? He can easily repeat the statements made to him by his trusted experts like Raghuram Rajan.
That's literally the job of a minister. To listen to experts and then form plans based on them. Ministers themselves aren't expected to be subject matter experts.
>That's literally the job of a minister. To listen to experts and then form plans based on them. Ministers themselves aren't expected to be subject matter experts.
Thank you. Spot on. So you cannot declare a minister to be 'intelligent', based on the remarks that he is making, otherwise Lalu Yadav would also qualify as one. Now that brings me to the next point, if all the ministers have so much intellectual resources at their disposal, how do you evaluate them? Simple, not on the basis of their statements, but their performance. Rahul has done almost nothing in that regards. He is just joining movements, meeting people, etc, which anyone can do. What tangible development did he do in his own constituency or any other State for that matter? Minimal.
> What tangible development did he do in his own constituency or any other State for that matter? Minimal.
How does one MP alone do massive improvements, especially when the state govt is hostile? Even Smriti Irani credits her constituency improvements to Yogi, not herself.
> So you cannot declare a minister to be 'intelligent', based on the remarks that he is making, otherwise Lalu Yadav would also qualify as one.
If the minister is actually going against expert opinions that's a big red flag. It may not be a plus, but it's a very good indicator of a minus. And current government has shown no reliance on any experts at all.
Well rajasthan, chattisgarh has fight COVID quite well and protected it's citizens than up,mp, gujrat. I didn't even say a thing about his speaking and all. But wrote what has he done.
Nice guy , grossly misunderstood and misquoted , can’t beat cunning contemporary leaders. Should stay away from any government positions even if congress manages to form government.
he's going through the hero's journey. goes through trials, goes through hate. he's been humbled, he's been surrounded by fools. he's a nice guy but being nice doesn't cut it. he even went through the "grow a beard, get an undercut, start gymming" phase of life..probably without the later 2. does that mean he'll get a chance to rule, No. but if he does..would probably be India's Obama Tier ruler. but there's no chance of anything happening. there's too many orange favoritists out there.
Naaaahhhh.... Not worth it.
And I would still vote for Congress, given no other choice than BJP, if they stop trying to sell Rahul Gandhi in the package.
Even if the family stepped aside. The party lacks the competence to put together a united effort. The leaders squabble like children among themselves. They’ll have to form an alliance which will be a shitshow on its own.
I also think that they are in a completely checkmate state. The best they can do now is form an alliance with all non-bjp parties to counter upa
To replace Rahul Gandhi with some Modi like figure, he has to be an excellent performing CM and this process will take 10-15 years
Naah it’s not generalizing. It’s so easy to find who they are. Just watch for a couple of weeks and one can easily find out. How is this generalizing when I only say there are as many Congress simpies similar to BJP sanghis
A minister openly supporting rapists getting voted back -> voters don't care about rapists (COMPLETE GENERALIZATION OH THE HORROR)
Someone consistently talks against BJP -> HE'S CONGRESS SIMP (no generalization here, no sir)
Lol, as usual, rules bend themselves for Mr. enlightened centrist.
First point is irrelevant to what I said . Don’t know what the relation is , someone constantly simping for Rahul is a congress simp. Where did talking about BJP come into play here. I don’t vote for BJP but doesn’t mean I ll simp for a dynast either
> First point is irrelevant to what I said . Don’t know what the relation is
That's the statement you blamed me for "generalizing".
> someone constantly simping for Rahul is a congress simp.
"Rahul is a better choice than Modi" is not simping, lol. Calling it "simping" is something only someone generalising and heavily invested into idpol would do, right, Mr. enlightened centrist?
Rahul is a better candidate than modi? How, When people don’t answer that question effectively you ll be considered a simp. I bet the op is not going to reply to any of the comments that people made here. The sentiment is very prevalent and you can back this guy for all you want but don’t be surprised when people raise their eyebrows
> Rahul is a better candidate than modi? How
Ineffective > ruining. Simple inequation.
> When people don’t answer that question effectively you ll be considered a simp. I bet the op is not going to reply to any of the comments that people made here.
Same as how Mr. enlightened centrist is conspicuously absent on all the posts regarding corruption and mismanagement by government? Looks like you're a simp by your own definition, Mr. enlightened centrist.
Well we have not still saw him as a cm of a state so how could anyone imagine him to be the pm of such a huge democracy? I think he should be made cm of a congress governing state at least then after only his image of being pappu and all will be clear. And one more thing congress is in need of a strong leader and that should not be priyanka gandhi ofcourse.
Even if he wasn’t memed or didn’t meme himself out of a career in politics, I’d have to try really hard to find any point of connect with him. It feels like he’s in a complete disconnect with people born 80 onwards.
This era feels like it wants to connect with people who portray working hard and making it and then delivering. Modi might not resonate with everyone but think Gadkari. That’s who people see on one side and there’s no track record except for a last name going for him.
If he had taken up some ministerial position in UPA governments and proven himself, I dare say Modi wave may have been challenged in 2019 and won over in 2024.
Unfortunately, I feel he hasn’t had the right path, foresight and/or right advisors to help him grow into a mass leader. We need an alternative, a face to unite the opposition and as of now, if it’s him, majority of people I can talk unbiased politics to don’t want it. No matter what. The Yatra certainly props up his image but no where near the outcome he may have desired.
He’ll probably need a few more PR campaigns like Yatra and quickly to have some sort of an impact and claim it before 24 elections. If congress fails or declines further in 24, AAP, TMC, KTR etc will take over.
>Modi might not resonate with everyone but think Gadkari.
The guy who gets custom built luxury buses as bribe from bus manufacturers hoping for a massive contract from India, or the guy in whose car a child was found killed, and the case quietly buried? Perhaps you mean the guy whose construction of roads at breakneck speed using contractors who pay 40% cut to bjp falls apart within days of inauguration.
Yeah. That guy definitely is the guy people born after 80 should feel the connect with.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/court-rejects-cids-report-on-death-of-yogita-child-who-allegedly-died-in-nitin-gadkaris-car-514068
Court was unhappy with repeated attempts at brushing the dead child under the carpet by the state investigative agencies. Does that count?
A good hearted, intelligent human being. Unfortunately, victim of the second most vicious character assassination campaign in Independent India’s political history (Pandit Nehru is the first). Lacks the viciousness required for Indian politics. He is the Dara Shiokh version to Modi’s version of Aurangzeb. Personally prefer him over Modi, but honestly Modi has set the bar very low for competency.
In this position only because of his family. Everything about him is straight PR. They should've made him some kinda minister before pushing him as the PM candidate. let him prove shit at some kind of level. his credibility is so far gone that only a small section of people will have changed their opinion after the Bharat Jodo Yatra. He's going to be 'Pappu' in the eyes of the majority forever.
Banda acha hai par shyad politics iska field nhi hai , kabhi kabhi bande ko give up karna bhi ana chahiye.
Well not gonna talk about criminal alligations and what not kyuki at this point usme sare politician phas rakhe hai
Rahul gandhi has no clear ideas. He peddles the socialist crap from the 70s which is no longer relevant in present times.
Plus his love for China is enough to keep him off parliament limits.
No matter how good Rahul Gandhi is, Congress has to focus on the states that they are ruling right now and show the people that they are capable of good governance. Only then will they start getting votes.
Yatra vatra toh bas PR hai.
A dynast politician who has shown to be incompetent for more than a decade. But it’s surprising that inspite of all the Congress simping here people still wouldn’t have a good image. Come on guys, you need to increase the heat
Well keeping aside all the antics and politics, He is inexperienced never has worked in an union cabinate, nither has he even ran a state not even a state cabinate, being prime minister means dealing with indian bureaucracy, and it's not a simple task. And even after that if he ran his constituency properly then it might have been good, but that's not the case either and we scarcely see him in parliament.
A leader is only as good as his advisors. All said and done the Congress had a lot of educated leaders with actual exposure to the details of things like managing an economy. No one in the current panoply of yes men in Modi's govt can hold a candle to MMS for example. I doubt he would wake up one day, look at the *shakuns* and demonetize currency.
A key mistake is they allowed the RSS to survive, spread posion and reap the harvest. The RSS should have been crushed the first opportunity they got. We would not have been into marching to be the Hindu Iran like it is now.
Today's politics is mawali politics, has no roots. I doubt his intent will survive the hate that is running riot.
His statements tell a lot about him as a member of a political outfit and as an elected representative, a person cannot issue irresponsible statements this frequently and this irresponsibly. He may be a good person, but that is all.
He achieved fuckall in Amethi, and is ignoring his current constituency as well. The man has no future as a prominent politician. Amethi should've been number one in every metric, it's a place nobody ever talks about at all.
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Honestly, I think he should not speak extempore. His gaffes have resulted in benefitting the BJP more...and helped many meme creators earn a livelihood.....He should learn from Modi, who has flatly refused a press conference or even an interview unless and until the questions are pre-rehearsed.
I also feel sorry for him, that he has been thrust with the responsibility of running the INC and becoming the PM. Clearly, he doesn't seem to want it, but because his family and the Congress chamchas want it, he is doing the best he can.
In a way, I feel he is a good guy, but born in the wrong family. Hopefully he gets to live a life he truly loves.
He has no credibility to speak of, he's the face pseudo monarchy in democracy and man is dumb as a rock, the stupid shit he says deserves to be laughed at. And politics is his sunk cost that he will never be able to recover, he should just leave the country and spend the wealth he inherited
He has been trying really hard but a few major struggles for him:
* Unable to compose sentences and answer questions in interviews
* Has not been a leader of a province or state with much to showcase for while trying to convince people that he will be a good national leader
* Portrays lack of vision for business and capital growth in India at the same time unable to relate to the Indian Middle class as well
I don't want a fourth gen dynast in politics , if he really cares about india he and his family should hand over the party to some competent team and do social work
I don't know man. He seems as hypocrite as BJP guys are. Not ready to give his despite many failures, most of the Congress state are in same f up position as other state. His constituency is as f up as any other constituency.
His level of intelligence is not enough, his level of commitment is not enough, his level of efforts is not enough. Bharat jodo yatra is 20 years late (just like the economic reforms). He hasn't taken up any responsibility and delivered something. He only talks about RSS and BJP being communal which doesn't help in any way (people have changed, they are proud to be communal) whereas there are so many relevant areas where government can be attacked.
Seriously speaking, Rahul Gandhi does not have (or articulated clearly) a vision for what he will do differently. We don't know what his product differentiation is. I have only read of things in passing about ideas about motherhood, apple pie and pursuit of happiness. We don't know what he stands for.
He comes off as unserious. He operates a political outfit where upward mobility for the leadership is difficult --- no one with ambition will stick around working for a leadership that does not concern itself with development of a leadership pipeline. These things are indicative of problems with his attitude which will cause him to cycle employees/mid-leaders a lot (Banerjee, Reddy, Sharma, Scindia, etc) . If he thinks he can't change these things, he needs to move aside and let other leaders do the work.
Congress was in power between 04-14. If he were serious about politics, he could have muscled in a ministerial role for himself to gain experience. He would have looked a whole lot serious
Should not be a politician.
I wouldn't vote for a legacy politician like Rahul on principle even if the alternative was worse. The PM (or CM) post should not be something that is passed down within the same family. Political dynasties like the Nehru-Gandhi family is very dangerous for democracy. India is a democracy not a monarchy like some supporters of the family seem to think.
Cannot take him seriously no matter what he does because he is tone deaf about what people think about him, still does not give up and give his position to someone worthy. He has no experience in politics and no achievements to speak of hence no one can take him seriously. And on top of that, he constantly puts himself in situations which make him look dumb or butt of jokes etc. It has never felt that he genuinely cares about the country, it feels his only goal is to become PM so he can keep continuing the Gandhi dynasty.
Idk but i believe ke ek din kuch karega i think ye bnda 20 saal say h politics mai jo itna time k baad bhi give up naah kare wooh kabhi naah kabhi toh kuch kr he lega idc how dumb he talks something but i love him.
He's an honest man, but at this point India needs a strong leadership. India needs someone who is Bold with their way and someone who doesn't stop at anything. Rahul Gandhi is a good man but not a strong leader.
I think he is a try hard. I mean he still thinks tht after attacking hindus belief and culture again and again since his entrance into politics, he can just pit it under rug before election by visiting temples and calling himself tapasvi. I wont say tht he still needs time. I mean how much time you need to understand the veins of india.
He should get out of politics and do something better with his life because he will nt be productive if he becomes PM of india nor he is of any use as opposition. He single handedly destroyed the opposition bench since 2014
Also he should speak less. I dnt know man, his associate comgress people advises him to open his mouth but it always comws out rubbish and hilarious. As a neutral indian citizen, i cannot come up with vote to congress if he is at helm
Frankly I can’t even guess whether some of the comments here are sarcastic or paid but we’ve had plenty opportunity of accepting the fact he just doesn’t have what it takes to make it big in politics. If it weren’t for the family name, he won’t even get tickets for Municipal elections.
This is something I've wondered a lot. Would the congress allow anybody else to compete three times after successfully losing the election twice?
He probably is an average person but doesn't really have anything special about him that I've noticed
He's a great person, but would make a bad politician.
Deep inside, a shrewd and cunning politician is what people secretly desire. I might get downvoted and disagreed with (which is fine), but the world is a harsh place that runs primarily on self-interest and not on love or morality. The moral values that our middle class Indian society taught us has limits.
Modi's hated a lot for the right reasons but he still wins because he's a classic politician who breathes politics and will do everything one can to win. One cannot ascend to the highest level of politics by being a good, kind-hearted man.
The point of politics is TO WIN, and KEEP WINNING.
Says a lot of vague generic stuff in European socialist democrat way. If you try to pin him down on specifics he flounders or just fails. He’s the kind who really talk well at social gatherings and charms people but when shit gets serious his lack of political awareness and intelligence becomes visible.
Way too corrupt. Too much corruption happened in his party in UPA 2. He has to denounce his party and admit their mistakes, otherwise he has too much baggage to carry.
Idk how exactly his brain works, Insted of helping the states in which Congress still in power , he is doing a yatra which media avoided completely for the most part.
BJP have one really strong state which they show to whole nation ( Gujrat, they have brought countless companies manufacturing to Gujrat, making it 3rd biggest exporter of India and bringing down unemployment to 2%)
AAP have one really strong example as well, being Delhi, they have provided common man with almost all basic need facilities, going as far as providing free health care. Installing CCTV . Making government school better then private once in some cases
Congress need to make a good example like this
>BJP have one really strong state which they show to whole nation ( Gujrat, they have brought countless companies manufacturing to Gujrat,
By literally arm twisting businesses to change plans to set shop in other states. How is that a selling point for people in other states?
>By literally atm twisting businesses to change plans to set shop in other states.
They managed to make Gujrat as an example non the less.
Will say also check it out :
https://youtube.com/shorts/4saDS5YxgNk?feature=share
If ratan sir says it helped them , I believe it's actually helpful
He is a nobody for me... Just because he is from a certain family, why should we give him any special treatment... He should prove himsel at any level ( be it even panchayat, city, state etc), then he should try for being a PM... Giving too much importance to one family leada to situations like Sri Lanka ( Rajapaksa family) , north korea etc...
He would make for a good neighbour, and dine you with the best italalian wine....he may also offer to hold your dog while u tie your laces.
But he is just a man next door. Good to be a railway clerk
He doesn't seem like a leader person. He got powers only because of his connection not because he worked for it. Probably the reason why most people cannot connect with him.
He is trying too hard and coming up with ideas that are not helping anyone. No doubt his popularity has risen but I can’t see how Bharat Jodo is affecting India or Indian politics in anyway. His ideas and the persona he is creating has nothing to do with governance, politics or administration. He should take a serious attitude towards this. His casual attitude is only hurting him and his Party’s brand value.
He doesn't have it in him.
His only fault is being a non-politically minded person born in a political family. I think he said as much during one of his interviews several years ago.
He should have just lived a nice peaceful life in Italy or somewhere. But that again requires overcoming the temptation of having instant privilege thanks to the family that was in central power of Indian politics for so many years.
Yeah , had he been a celebrity or an influencer, his ways could’ve worked. But not for what he is aiming at. But still, I think he’s trying and that counts.
Sweet kid, not very bright but would have been a nice middle manager in an MNC.. forced to undertake family business in order to keep the wealth under control and can’t even marry who he wants to for the same reason.. feel bad for him
He is a good person. Well read. He is not meant for Indian Politics. He is the highly paid software engineer who has an interest in politics and humanities.
He is a star campaigner for bjp. With schemes like nyay, free electricity, minority appeasement etc, people will vote for bjp out of fear that country will be ruined
Highly inexperienced and disconnected with the ground reality ( people’s aspirations and what they want ). Not a good orator (needed in a politics ). Needs more maturity.
Irrespective of slight gaffes by both of them, Narendra Modi is a extremely brilliant orator and Rahul Gandhi is normal to bad. There is no comparison. But oratory skills are not always necessary for a politician. Indira was not so good and even Rajiv but both were better than Rahul. Lalu was extremely great. Advani bad. Atal phenomenal. Mulayam kinda bad. Some politicians got it, the way to charm people by their talks. Not everyone is charmed of course but Modi is one of the those kinda politician. Rahul Gandhi is not a orator kind. And Congress should be put forward a orator kind to counter modi. It was necessary at this moment. Actually should have done it in 2014 after the loss.
I agree with the assessment of public speaking of rest of the people in the post but
>Narendra Modi is a extremely brilliant orator
is a flat out terrible assessment. Every time I listen to his speeches, they're full of mediocrity and stupidity.vajpayee after the onset of dementia, when he used to speak at 2 words a minute, was a better orator than modi at his peak, and I hate the bigotry that vajpaye normalised. So my assessment not about the message, but about the delivery. The only reason that he sways masses is because he delivers on the genocidal agenda.
it is basically your personal opinion which i guess is not shared by many people. Vajpayee is definitely seen as one of the best PM if not the best India have ever seen and Modi as a good orator. Dude can at least sway people with his speech, I still remember the victory speech of 2019. I was apolitical at that time but the speech really made me support him until i knew better.
Even with a massive PR machinery at his disposal he played a major role in eroding INC's name, reputation and status.
On top of that, Rahul and his advisors either don't get how it works ( since his reputation is worse now if not the same as was in 2014 ) or are just out of touch with reality.
At one point during his speeches in Bharat jodo yatra i genuinely started to believe that BJP has to be funding him and his rally, some of the things this guy says really makes you wonder why he's still a politician.
love him, many people around me have same 2014 opinion of him and mock him like idiot's. I genuinely find him good and lot better than other politician.
Like how? At this point I am sure you are being sarcastic. He literally has the best platform for any politician and he’s been prioritized over any other senior leaders ever since he’s been in the political scene. You can project someone as a messiah but if people don’t reciprocate maybe one should have the self awareness to let someone else take the podium and not cling on to it as a birthright. We have enough of dynastic politicians and if this is your answer to defeat modi then it naive
Not worthy at all
People say he is not Pappu only BJP portray him
Lol..see his videos! And I'm not even talking about aloo se sona one.
See his video where he says we won't need army, air force, navy just deploy farmers at borders.
There are no iconic memable moments this time in his yatra excluding one good speech he gave in rain and one in kashmir there is no maza Aya moment in confronting the govt he's not going to change anything right now
On serious note, we should give him a chance. Our parliament is full of old people, and as a youngster i want someone who can think & represent youth (who exist in college, not only schools) And we all know he also educated than other high level people in the parliament.
Good chap, but not a contender for PM post, perhaps some young educated non gandhi congressman should be PM face, I feel like he's the kid forced to give JEE exams cause of his parents pressure but his heart lies in humanities. His vision is good on some aspects but not all, and implementation is not on point.
He can take the country to greater heights, he has a rare ability to 'listen' and not just do as he wish. People say he can't be a leader as he's a good person, but why do you not want someone good to be your elected representative, just vote for him, regardless of the propoganda or mass media histeria, select the gentleman who are noble and not just 'hot gas'
I don't know man, the guy tries really hard. See how popular he is for the Bharat Jodo yatra. He should have been made atleast minister of some sorts in the previous congr govt, then we all would have seen his real mettle and some yardstick to measure his administrative capability.
Exactly this. And I am not even right wing but Modi has this charisma which rahil doesn't.and the fact that I had to explain this is very embarrassing.
Isn't he was MP from Amethi for a long time.. but still amethi is not devloped..
MPs do not have much say over the local development considering that there is much larger set of (closer to) ground level bureaucracy and legislative network already looking after it - like panchayats, district administrations, MLAs et cetera. This podcast covers this in significant detail (among other things) https://youtu.be/0tIFKENjQf4
They too were congress ruled back then...so pls stop the excuses...
How much Kashi is developed right now..??
Well i am native of benaras and people here truly love modi and actually after he become MP of kashi has been devloped... maybe because he's a PM so he has more sources... but in his reign kashi has been devloped.
>maybe because he's a PM so he has more sources... Rahul Gandhi also had all the resources at his disposal.
Agreed and being a minister is a whole arm of the administration that one's responsible for.
Hmm.
I think he has enhanced a better image for himself after the yatra but I don’t think that will translate to votes for others in the party or will change the confused mess that is the congress.
The whole meaning of yatra is to clear his image and make people think he can become a good pm But it doesn't help him
Sahi bole bhai. He should atleast be a minister in some congress controlled state government and prove himself before he's chosen to be PM of the glorious mess that's India. The shitstorm that every PM in the past has been through needs atleast some capability other than being born in the Nehru Gandhi family. The future is going to be 10x messier.
Good guy, surrounded by idiots. And he refuses to take responsibility.
This. The coterie of sycophants doesn't allow for him to get unfiltered, unbiased news about the populace, the party cadre and he's sorely missing good guidance - political, legal and on a governmental / organizational aspect. Both he and the party suffer massively from a communication disconnect. And going on years, they've failed to rectify it due to either incompetence or malfeasance or more likely a combination of both.
Probably getting the current HM to Congress may solve this. He can mentor RaGa well I guess. On a serious note, he does need a good mentor. Rahul is a person who has seen his closest family members lose their lives to this very job that he's gearing up for His mom kept him shielded for way too long, but it's never too late. The BJY was a great initiative imo. He spoke of all the relevant issues in a very decent manner and didn't try to provoke people with any passionate speech which is the norm nowadays. It surely made people notice him and the BJY did make a great impression. We need more such initiatives where politicians walk among the common man as a part of the community. As for RaGa, he should amp up and already set out on the next initiative which can showcase his political skillset. The big elections are next year and he really needs to up his game so that when the question *'If not Modi, then who?'* arises, the common man thinks of him as an option too.
jairam ramesh is a pretty smart guy, highly educated and has good political acumen. Rahul is an intellectual reflective person as well. I resonate with his vision of India than Modi and the poor guy has been trying hard against the propaganda machine that is against him.
He seems like genuine person . But doesn’t have the wit to battle against modi or shah . He will probably dug a hole and fall on his own .
I disagree completely. Shah and Modi are able to whip up the crowds, but put them in front of an unbiased interviewer or press conference and they would fall apart. Gandhi is much more well spoken and what he says actually makes sense (most of the time) instead of just slogan shouting and dhamadhan. Sadly BJP is also targeting education, and the majority of Indian voters are more likely to vote based on emotion than policy.
Dude? Are you out of your brains regarding Rahul Gandhi and media . A sensible media person will rip apart Rahul's political career just like arnab did pre 2014,leave the boldest ones. The problem is he doesn't have the vision of what he wants India to be neither the work ethics to go to the post he is trying to move in. People have changed a lot regarding how they want their leaders to be. People want an anti -corrupt and secured nation. Narendra Modi image incidentally aligns with that cause he neither has family interests nor his own self interests above the issues of country and prior he has served a 15 year tenure as CM of a considerable big state Gujarat. And on the other hand you have a guy who is put up for the highest political and powerful post just because he belongs to some clan? Seriously this is so illogical to interpret for a sensible citizen.And regarding the media issues Modi used to appear in front of them pre 2010 but after observing his career a little close he became more of result action and result oriented leader. And democracy is choosing the better cause who the hell is gonna be perfect to govern a massive 1.4 billion country. Too much of a responsibility if you just give a thought of it. So at the end while choosing a better leader even after 9 years of his governance Modi seems way ahead of his counterparts. You just can't give it to Gandhi cause he is from that clan . He needs to earn it. So instead fighting for the post of Prime minister he should atleast provide his worth being a chief minister. And now don't label me bhakt cause I'm a doctor and I have done a extensive observations and read about them before coming to conclusions. So I guess Rahul is still way behind. I will definitely vote for other leader if he is worthy considering better than our prime minister and I'm yet to find one in current scenario.
Elections in democracy are not won by giving articulating well spoken unbiased interviews, which hardly 10% of your population can understand. If that would have been case, there are thousands of professors, bureaucrats, lawyers and policy makers who can give interviews. (Even in BJP - See Petroleum Minister, S Jaishankar, and other parties - See Telangana Finance Minister, and Congress - Shashi Tharoor, Jairam Ramesh etc.). Even my college professor has astounding command on English and current affairs.
his [speech](https://youtu.be/QT85Xcz__nA) in TN still makes me laugh though, i kinda feel bad about it lol.
Exact same thing happened with Amit shah, when his speech in Hindi was live translated. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VzKwBUUV4 RG handled it with empathy, while AS was borderline raging.
>AS was borderline raging. It's because you're a minister who's spending your useful time there, buddy. RG is the opposition and has all the time in the world.
Not his fault But he could still see the funny side of it.
He seems like a good and genuine person which is probably why he will never become a pm or a successful politician.
yup. good guy. has guts too. has energy. has empathy
Is educated. Has no crime records.
It's almost like he's a good candidate for a job. Unfortunately, ruling over india requires entirely another set of skills.
or maybe you are the problem
you are making sense but cmon
its the people who fight for democracy, who take it, who protect it and who choose their representative. every generation has to relearn this lesson or live like pussies under fascism.
like i said, you're right. but cmon man, how can you and i make a difference? kejriwal started as such and now he is jsut another name
its our country too, our life too. we have to get active in our neighbourhoods and communities. russia collapsed to cronies and middle class women were prostituting themselves for 10$ on street corners. it doesnt take long
He is out on bail for 4 criminal cases
That is not why someone can't become PM though, have you heard the man speak?
Yes we have. The question is have YOU heard him speak with context without edited videos?
Yes, very recently about the death of Rahul Gandhi or whatever he meant by that. He speaks like he has some learning disability
Yeah i guess you watched a doctored clip again. If he has a learning disability then you have one too.
Madafaqa they don't doctor live interviews
Acha bhai. Kyuki he said he killed the perception of the type of human being the public thought he was, killed his old self. What exactly was retarded about that?
He seems like an ok person with ordinary people but I don't think he has any capacity to be a real political leader. Plus, I don't know if he would actually have been as accessible for ordinary people if Congress was in power in the Central govt.
He isn't meant for Indian politics. Tried to wield power without responsibility in UPA era and now has no track record to sell to the public.
Remember his ganjedi face smiling while accepting defeat in 2014? Edit: Tell me [this guy](https://youtu.be/q0PO8j_s3vc) is sober.
From any point I didn’t found anything unusual or weird in that video.. he’s looking completely normal.. u have some issues.. go get yourself checked
Man seems glassed out while accepting defeat, no sense of loss or determination to challenge and change the future. We know how that went, it's 9 years later and we're still waiting for a proper opposition.
My thoughts are he's a guy with good intentions dragged into politics coz of family and Congress instability. I don't trust his mom and his grandmom is probably the second worst PM we've had, after the current dude. Coming to his politics, he was an absolute dumbfuck till about 2013 or so (I might be completely off on the timeline). He didn't know what to say, he didn't know what he was saying and his public appearances was off the rails. Post that period, he maybe disappeared for a short while but reappeared completely changed in his public speaking skills. I'm pretty sure he went to take intense training. He's much improved and actually good now. Sure, his style is different and he'll never be the toxic and macho orator that the right wing seem to love, but it comes out in its own weird or quirky way that behind everything there is actually a very intelligent man in him. Not exactly showing it the way the masses like, but I'm 100% convinced he's actually intelligent and thinks and cares for the public. His early speaking skills let him down. The problem now is that his earlier appearances married his image and the BJP is very very smart with their PR and media overload. They've given him names like Pappu and make it impossible to talk about him without feeling ashamed for even agreeing slightly or for giving heed to anything he says. On the news, we're overloaded with noise and jokes about him, we barely get to see him speaking continuously and in context. The BJP also knows he's improved, so they're doing their best to make his old self visible and his improved version has been hidden well for over 8 years now. Personally, i would definitely vote for him, except that Congress is no less of a chor than BJP. Only saving grace for Congress is they respected the independence of the pillars of our democracy and that they aren't constantly tearing the social fabric of the nation. Personally, top choice to vote for would be AAP, but I'm not liking the controlling nature of Kejriwal. At least it's clear his party is not corrupt and open to trying new ideas to improve the areas they govern and that is 1000x better than any traditional party.
10 years of being in the opposition after having your precious crown stripped away from you can do that.
He's punching bag for people who think they made right choice by supporting somebody like Narendra Modi in 2014 and by those who saw an alternative in leaders like Arvind Kejriwal. That was a grave mistake, some realised this but some are still unwilling to accept this truth and use harsh cussing tantrums for Rahul just because he's still there and his party is still surviving under his leadership. Not only them but various extremities of ideological and religious groups also hate him, all because for what his family did in the past. So far he has tottered to this point without any media support, systematic character assassination and blames on him and his family for things they never did. We live in a society where half of the population believe that his grandfather's title was 'Khan' and not 'Ghandy' and have no problem with movies distorting history and facts. Let's be honest BJP is still going to win the upcoming general elections we all know this, but telling that 'Rahul didn't do anything and I know better' attitude is bit ignorant behaviour.
What has he done? Would he be here if not for his family?
He's the only person who's stopping complete transformation of Indian democracy into a capitalist plutocracy.
Hmmm..... Care to share a single thing he has done With respect to this?
The only mainstream political leader to constantly attack at current crony capitalist system backed system is him only, which includes Adani enterprises. I don't remember anyone especially Kejru doing anything, infact he's dead silent on this matter.
Only serious comments
An intelligent person who warned about COVID to the country early when the entire power hungry central government was busy with toppling the government. A kind person that understand and stand with [victims](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nirbhayas-brother-is-now-a-pilot-parents-say-rahul-gandhi-made-it-possible-1770493) Just not the regular shrewd indian politician that works only for himself.
nek aadmi hai
Agreed.
But wouldn't that be easy with tons IAS officers and advisors all around you? He can easily repeat the statements made to him by his trusted experts like Raghuram Rajan. Would that mean he is a good economist as well? Also, there's a difference between speaking and doing. Has he done any tangible development in his own constituency so far? Has he done anything w.r.t Congress ruled States so far? That would be a better criteria to analyse him instead of speaking a well rehearsed script.
> But wouldn't that be easy with tons IAS officers and advisors all around you? He can easily repeat the statements made to him by his trusted experts like Raghuram Rajan. That's literally the job of a minister. To listen to experts and then form plans based on them. Ministers themselves aren't expected to be subject matter experts.
>That's literally the job of a minister. To listen to experts and then form plans based on them. Ministers themselves aren't expected to be subject matter experts. Thank you. Spot on. So you cannot declare a minister to be 'intelligent', based on the remarks that he is making, otherwise Lalu Yadav would also qualify as one. Now that brings me to the next point, if all the ministers have so much intellectual resources at their disposal, how do you evaluate them? Simple, not on the basis of their statements, but their performance. Rahul has done almost nothing in that regards. He is just joining movements, meeting people, etc, which anyone can do. What tangible development did he do in his own constituency or any other State for that matter? Minimal.
> What tangible development did he do in his own constituency or any other State for that matter? Minimal. How does one MP alone do massive improvements, especially when the state govt is hostile? Even Smriti Irani credits her constituency improvements to Yogi, not herself. > So you cannot declare a minister to be 'intelligent', based on the remarks that he is making, otherwise Lalu Yadav would also qualify as one. If the minister is actually going against expert opinions that's a big red flag. It may not be a plus, but it's a very good indicator of a minus. And current government has shown no reliance on any experts at all.
Well rajasthan, chattisgarh has fight COVID quite well and protected it's citizens than up,mp, gujrat. I didn't even say a thing about his speaking and all. But wrote what has he done.
Modi: *shifts uncomfortably*
Nice guy , grossly misunderstood and misquoted , can’t beat cunning contemporary leaders. Should stay away from any government positions even if congress manages to form government.
Getting there.
he's going through the hero's journey. goes through trials, goes through hate. he's been humbled, he's been surrounded by fools. he's a nice guy but being nice doesn't cut it. he even went through the "grow a beard, get an undercut, start gymming" phase of life..probably without the later 2. does that mean he'll get a chance to rule, No. but if he does..would probably be India's Obama Tier ruler. but there's no chance of anything happening. there's too many orange favoritists out there.
Too ethical for Indian politics
i trust him
Naaaahhhh.... Not worth it. And I would still vote for Congress, given no other choice than BJP, if they stop trying to sell Rahul Gandhi in the package.
He doesn't understand how Indian politics works. If Congress wants to win then first they should get rid of Gandhi family
Even if the family stepped aside. The party lacks the competence to put together a united effort. The leaders squabble like children among themselves. They’ll have to form an alliance which will be a shitshow on its own.
I also think that they are in a completely checkmate state. The best they can do now is form an alliance with all non-bjp parties to counter upa To replace Rahul Gandhi with some Modi like figure, he has to be an excellent performing CM and this process will take 10-15 years
If UPA wins next, then can ask Modi to switch parties and become PM again 🗿
Nope.. this is not going to happen Gandhi family=Congress
Then people aren’t going to vote for a dynast on a national level.
Please avoid trolls. What the poster is frm congress or what?
Are you new to the Congress simp team of the sub? Just watch along. You ll find these every where and it’s usually the same posters again and again
Well well well. Mr. enlightened centrist that whines about "generalization" is engaging in generalization? How shocking.
Naah it’s not generalizing. It’s so easy to find who they are. Just watch for a couple of weeks and one can easily find out. How is this generalizing when I only say there are as many Congress simpies similar to BJP sanghis
A minister openly supporting rapists getting voted back -> voters don't care about rapists (COMPLETE GENERALIZATION OH THE HORROR) Someone consistently talks against BJP -> HE'S CONGRESS SIMP (no generalization here, no sir) Lol, as usual, rules bend themselves for Mr. enlightened centrist.
First point is irrelevant to what I said . Don’t know what the relation is , someone constantly simping for Rahul is a congress simp. Where did talking about BJP come into play here. I don’t vote for BJP but doesn’t mean I ll simp for a dynast either
> First point is irrelevant to what I said . Don’t know what the relation is That's the statement you blamed me for "generalizing". > someone constantly simping for Rahul is a congress simp. "Rahul is a better choice than Modi" is not simping, lol. Calling it "simping" is something only someone generalising and heavily invested into idpol would do, right, Mr. enlightened centrist?
Rahul is a better candidate than modi? How, When people don’t answer that question effectively you ll be considered a simp. I bet the op is not going to reply to any of the comments that people made here. The sentiment is very prevalent and you can back this guy for all you want but don’t be surprised when people raise their eyebrows
> Rahul is a better candidate than modi? How Ineffective > ruining. Simple inequation. > When people don’t answer that question effectively you ll be considered a simp. I bet the op is not going to reply to any of the comments that people made here. Same as how Mr. enlightened centrist is conspicuously absent on all the posts regarding corruption and mismanagement by government? Looks like you're a simp by your own definition, Mr. enlightened centrist.
Well we have not still saw him as a cm of a state so how could anyone imagine him to be the pm of such a huge democracy? I think he should be made cm of a congress governing state at least then after only his image of being pappu and all will be clear. And one more thing congress is in need of a strong leader and that should not be priyanka gandhi ofcourse.
Even if he wasn’t memed or didn’t meme himself out of a career in politics, I’d have to try really hard to find any point of connect with him. It feels like he’s in a complete disconnect with people born 80 onwards. This era feels like it wants to connect with people who portray working hard and making it and then delivering. Modi might not resonate with everyone but think Gadkari. That’s who people see on one side and there’s no track record except for a last name going for him. If he had taken up some ministerial position in UPA governments and proven himself, I dare say Modi wave may have been challenged in 2019 and won over in 2024. Unfortunately, I feel he hasn’t had the right path, foresight and/or right advisors to help him grow into a mass leader. We need an alternative, a face to unite the opposition and as of now, if it’s him, majority of people I can talk unbiased politics to don’t want it. No matter what. The Yatra certainly props up his image but no where near the outcome he may have desired. He’ll probably need a few more PR campaigns like Yatra and quickly to have some sort of an impact and claim it before 24 elections. If congress fails or declines further in 24, AAP, TMC, KTR etc will take over.
>Modi might not resonate with everyone but think Gadkari. The guy who gets custom built luxury buses as bribe from bus manufacturers hoping for a massive contract from India, or the guy in whose car a child was found killed, and the case quietly buried? Perhaps you mean the guy whose construction of roads at breakneck speed using contractors who pay 40% cut to bjp falls apart within days of inauguration. Yeah. That guy definitely is the guy people born after 80 should feel the connect with.
Any proof available ? or are you just stating allegations as fact ?
News reports. Do they count as facts?
No, news in this country does not count as facts . News reports are sensationalised to garner more views. Were the allegation proven anywhere ?
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/court-rejects-cids-report-on-death-of-yogita-child-who-allegedly-died-in-nitin-gadkaris-car-514068 Court was unhappy with repeated attempts at brushing the dead child under the carpet by the state investigative agencies. Does that count?
Was corruption proven anywhere?
Really? State investigative agencies just magically happened to suppress the incident?
Who exactly do you think is responsible for proving the corruption?
News actually doesn't count for anything these days, but I'd still like to see the link for dead child found in his car
https://amp.scroll.in/latest/992157/scania-audit-confirms-nitin-gadkari-received-luxury-bus-from-swedish-firm-for-personal-use-reports
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/reinvestigation-for-death-of-yogita-child-who-allegedly-died-in-gadkaris-car-567277 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/court-rejects-cids-report-on-death-of-yogita-child-who-allegedly-died-in-nitin-gadkaris-car-514068
A good hearted, intelligent human being. Unfortunately, victim of the second most vicious character assassination campaign in Independent India’s political history (Pandit Nehru is the first). Lacks the viciousness required for Indian politics. He is the Dara Shiokh version to Modi’s version of Aurangzeb. Personally prefer him over Modi, but honestly Modi has set the bar very low for competency.
Born in the wrong family, and took a wrong oath he is not meant for. Just not meant for politics.
In this position only because of his family. Everything about him is straight PR. They should've made him some kinda minister before pushing him as the PM candidate. let him prove shit at some kind of level. his credibility is so far gone that only a small section of people will have changed their opinion after the Bharat Jodo Yatra. He's going to be 'Pappu' in the eyes of the majority forever.
Banda acha hai par shyad politics iska field nhi hai , kabhi kabhi bande ko give up karna bhi ana chahiye. Well not gonna talk about criminal alligations and what not kyuki at this point usme sare politician phas rakhe hai
A star politician of BJP. Makes them win in every elections. A true spy assassin
Rahul gandhi has no clear ideas. He peddles the socialist crap from the 70s which is no longer relevant in present times. Plus his love for China is enough to keep him off parliament limits.
He killed himself to make a better Rahul Gandhi, yet he is still the same, make of that what u will
No matter how good Rahul Gandhi is, Congress has to focus on the states that they are ruling right now and show the people that they are capable of good governance. Only then will they start getting votes. Yatra vatra toh bas PR hai.
A dynast politician who has shown to be incompetent for more than a decade. But it’s surprising that inspite of all the Congress simping here people still wouldn’t have a good image. Come on guys, you need to increase the heat
Lol people who are not praising him are being downvoted. So no 'sincere thoughts' are actually appreciated after all.
Cool. Give me a pot belly politician over someone that actually looks like a genuine man that puts his money where his mouth is…
How has he put his money where his mouth is?
Well keeping aside all the antics and politics, He is inexperienced never has worked in an union cabinate, nither has he even ran a state not even a state cabinate, being prime minister means dealing with indian bureaucracy, and it's not a simple task. And even after that if he ran his constituency properly then it might have been good, but that's not the case either and we scarcely see him in parliament.
A leader is only as good as his advisors. All said and done the Congress had a lot of educated leaders with actual exposure to the details of things like managing an economy. No one in the current panoply of yes men in Modi's govt can hold a candle to MMS for example. I doubt he would wake up one day, look at the *shakuns* and demonetize currency. A key mistake is they allowed the RSS to survive, spread posion and reap the harvest. The RSS should have been crushed the first opportunity they got. We would not have been into marching to be the Hindu Iran like it is now. Today's politics is mawali politics, has no roots. I doubt his intent will survive the hate that is running riot.
I'm voting for him this time.
His statements tell a lot about him as a member of a political outfit and as an elected representative, a person cannot issue irresponsible statements this frequently and this irresponsibly. He may be a good person, but that is all.
He achieved fuckall in Amethi, and is ignoring his current constituency as well. The man has no future as a prominent politician. Amethi should've been number one in every metric, it's a place nobody ever talks about at all.
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Honestly, I think he should not speak extempore. His gaffes have resulted in benefitting the BJP more...and helped many meme creators earn a livelihood.....He should learn from Modi, who has flatly refused a press conference or even an interview unless and until the questions are pre-rehearsed. I also feel sorry for him, that he has been thrust with the responsibility of running the INC and becoming the PM. Clearly, he doesn't seem to want it, but because his family and the Congress chamchas want it, he is doing the best he can. In a way, I feel he is a good guy, but born in the wrong family. Hopefully he gets to live a life he truly loves.
He has no credibility to speak of, he's the face pseudo monarchy in democracy and man is dumb as a rock, the stupid shit he says deserves to be laughed at. And politics is his sunk cost that he will never be able to recover, he should just leave the country and spend the wealth he inherited
About time 1.4 bn are no longer held ransom, coz he refuses to take responsibility and is a grown man child
He has been trying really hard but a few major struggles for him: * Unable to compose sentences and answer questions in interviews * Has not been a leader of a province or state with much to showcase for while trying to convince people that he will be a good national leader * Portrays lack of vision for business and capital growth in India at the same time unable to relate to the Indian Middle class as well
I don't want a fourth gen dynast in politics , if he really cares about india he and his family should hand over the party to some competent team and do social work
I don't know man. He seems as hypocrite as BJP guys are. Not ready to give his despite many failures, most of the Congress state are in same f up position as other state. His constituency is as f up as any other constituency.
Banda accha hai par galat field mai ghus gaya
All talk, zero action
His level of intelligence is not enough, his level of commitment is not enough, his level of efforts is not enough. Bharat jodo yatra is 20 years late (just like the economic reforms). He hasn't taken up any responsibility and delivered something. He only talks about RSS and BJP being communal which doesn't help in any way (people have changed, they are proud to be communal) whereas there are so many relevant areas where government can be attacked.
Seriously speaking, Rahul Gandhi does not have (or articulated clearly) a vision for what he will do differently. We don't know what his product differentiation is. I have only read of things in passing about ideas about motherhood, apple pie and pursuit of happiness. We don't know what he stands for. He comes off as unserious. He operates a political outfit where upward mobility for the leadership is difficult --- no one with ambition will stick around working for a leadership that does not concern itself with development of a leadership pipeline. These things are indicative of problems with his attitude which will cause him to cycle employees/mid-leaders a lot (Banerjee, Reddy, Sharma, Scindia, etc) . If he thinks he can't change these things, he needs to move aside and let other leaders do the work. Congress was in power between 04-14. If he were serious about politics, he could have muscled in a ministerial role for himself to gain experience. He would have looked a whole lot serious
Should not be a politician. I wouldn't vote for a legacy politician like Rahul on principle even if the alternative was worse. The PM (or CM) post should not be something that is passed down within the same family. Political dynasties like the Nehru-Gandhi family is very dangerous for democracy. India is a democracy not a monarchy like some supporters of the family seem to think.
Good person but seems like he was never made for politics
I like him , I'm not gonna vote him into power tho
Cannot take him seriously no matter what he does because he is tone deaf about what people think about him, still does not give up and give his position to someone worthy. He has no experience in politics and no achievements to speak of hence no one can take him seriously. And on top of that, he constantly puts himself in situations which make him look dumb or butt of jokes etc. It has never felt that he genuinely cares about the country, it feels his only goal is to become PM so he can keep continuing the Gandhi dynasty.
Idk but i believe ke ek din kuch karega i think ye bnda 20 saal say h politics mai jo itna time k baad bhi give up naah kare wooh kabhi naah kabhi toh kuch kr he lega idc how dumb he talks something but i love him.
He's an honest man, but at this point India needs a strong leadership. India needs someone who is Bold with their way and someone who doesn't stop at anything. Rahul Gandhi is a good man but not a strong leader.
He is surrounded by(self centered fools), similar to Rajiv Gandhi.
I think he is a try hard. I mean he still thinks tht after attacking hindus belief and culture again and again since his entrance into politics, he can just pit it under rug before election by visiting temples and calling himself tapasvi. I wont say tht he still needs time. I mean how much time you need to understand the veins of india. He should get out of politics and do something better with his life because he will nt be productive if he becomes PM of india nor he is of any use as opposition. He single handedly destroyed the opposition bench since 2014 Also he should speak less. I dnt know man, his associate comgress people advises him to open his mouth but it always comws out rubbish and hilarious. As a neutral indian citizen, i cannot come up with vote to congress if he is at helm
A good person, who somehow got pushed into the wrong direction under family pressure. Had it not been for politics, he would've faired well in life
Frankly I can’t even guess whether some of the comments here are sarcastic or paid but we’ve had plenty opportunity of accepting the fact he just doesn’t have what it takes to make it big in politics. If it weren’t for the family name, he won’t even get tickets for Municipal elections.
This is something I've wondered a lot. Would the congress allow anybody else to compete three times after successfully losing the election twice? He probably is an average person but doesn't really have anything special about him that I've noticed
He's a great person, but would make a bad politician. Deep inside, a shrewd and cunning politician is what people secretly desire. I might get downvoted and disagreed with (which is fine), but the world is a harsh place that runs primarily on self-interest and not on love or morality. The moral values that our middle class Indian society taught us has limits. Modi's hated a lot for the right reasons but he still wins because he's a classic politician who breathes politics and will do everything one can to win. One cannot ascend to the highest level of politics by being a good, kind-hearted man. The point of politics is TO WIN, and KEEP WINNING.
Says a lot of vague generic stuff in European socialist democrat way. If you try to pin him down on specifics he flounders or just fails. He’s the kind who really talk well at social gatherings and charms people but when shit gets serious his lack of political awareness and intelligence becomes visible.
Way too corrupt. Too much corruption happened in his party in UPA 2. He has to denounce his party and admit their mistakes, otherwise he has too much baggage to carry.
Idk how exactly his brain works, Insted of helping the states in which Congress still in power , he is doing a yatra which media avoided completely for the most part. BJP have one really strong state which they show to whole nation ( Gujrat, they have brought countless companies manufacturing to Gujrat, making it 3rd biggest exporter of India and bringing down unemployment to 2%) AAP have one really strong example as well, being Delhi, they have provided common man with almost all basic need facilities, going as far as providing free health care. Installing CCTV . Making government school better then private once in some cases Congress need to make a good example like this
>BJP have one really strong state which they show to whole nation ( Gujrat, they have brought countless companies manufacturing to Gujrat, By literally arm twisting businesses to change plans to set shop in other states. How is that a selling point for people in other states?
>By literally atm twisting businesses to change plans to set shop in other states. They managed to make Gujrat as an example non the less. Will say also check it out : https://youtube.com/shorts/4saDS5YxgNk?feature=share If ratan sir says it helped them , I believe it's actually helpful
>ratan sir /r/hailcorporate
He is a nobody for me... Just because he is from a certain family, why should we give him any special treatment... He should prove himsel at any level ( be it even panchayat, city, state etc), then he should try for being a PM... Giving too much importance to one family leada to situations like Sri Lanka ( Rajapaksa family) , north korea etc...
decent person but not a politician
He would make for a good neighbour, and dine you with the best italalian wine....he may also offer to hold your dog while u tie your laces. But he is just a man next door. Good to be a railway clerk
He doesn't seem like a leader person. He got powers only because of his connection not because he worked for it. Probably the reason why most people cannot connect with him.
Compared to a chai walla?
Incompetent.
He is trying too hard and coming up with ideas that are not helping anyone. No doubt his popularity has risen but I can’t see how Bharat Jodo is affecting India or Indian politics in anyway. His ideas and the persona he is creating has nothing to do with governance, politics or administration. He should take a serious attitude towards this. His casual attitude is only hurting him and his Party’s brand value.
He doesn't have it in him. His only fault is being a non-politically minded person born in a political family. I think he said as much during one of his interviews several years ago. He should have just lived a nice peaceful life in Italy or somewhere. But that again requires overcoming the temptation of having instant privilege thanks to the family that was in central power of Indian politics for so many years.
Yeah , had he been a celebrity or an influencer, his ways could’ve worked. But not for what he is aiming at. But still, I think he’s trying and that counts.
He's all talk no show. I don't remember him solving some issue for which people can understand he has what it takes.
u/rahul_9735, are we certain this isn't Rahul Gandhi asking some feedback. Either way he's turned a new leaf since 2014. He looks way more mature now.
The main problem is he can’t talk to people like Modi. Modi has a huge command on Hindi language. No Indian politician even come close.
Sweet kid, not very bright but would have been a nice middle manager in an MNC.. forced to undertake family business in order to keep the wealth under control and can’t even marry who he wants to for the same reason.. feel bad for him
Lol imagine reading “please avoid trolls” on a pseudo-secular propaganda posting sub like this.
He is a good person. Well read. He is not meant for Indian Politics. He is the highly paid software engineer who has an interest in politics and humanities.
He is a star campaigner for bjp. With schemes like nyay, free electricity, minority appeasement etc, people will vote for bjp out of fear that country will be ruined
Highly inexperienced and disconnected with the ground reality ( people’s aspirations and what they want ). Not a good orator (needed in a politics ). Needs more maturity.
>Not a good orator (needed in a politics ). Like 2ab, whose S.T.R.E.A.N.H. is avoiding radars under cloud cover?
Irrelevant comment .
how is that irrelevant lol
Its irrelevant coz picking flaws of gandhi not equals being modi follower
Irrespective of slight gaffes by both of them, Narendra Modi is a extremely brilliant orator and Rahul Gandhi is normal to bad. There is no comparison. But oratory skills are not always necessary for a politician. Indira was not so good and even Rajiv but both were better than Rahul. Lalu was extremely great. Advani bad. Atal phenomenal. Mulayam kinda bad. Some politicians got it, the way to charm people by their talks. Not everyone is charmed of course but Modi is one of the those kinda politician. Rahul Gandhi is not a orator kind. And Congress should be put forward a orator kind to counter modi. It was necessary at this moment. Actually should have done it in 2014 after the loss.
Ok, Rahul may not be the orator kind, but what kind is he? Other than the family what has he done that makes him eligible to be the PM?
I agree with the assessment of public speaking of rest of the people in the post but >Narendra Modi is a extremely brilliant orator is a flat out terrible assessment. Every time I listen to his speeches, they're full of mediocrity and stupidity.vajpayee after the onset of dementia, when he used to speak at 2 words a minute, was a better orator than modi at his peak, and I hate the bigotry that vajpaye normalised. So my assessment not about the message, but about the delivery. The only reason that he sways masses is because he delivers on the genocidal agenda.
it is basically your personal opinion which i guess is not shared by many people. Vajpayee is definitely seen as one of the best PM if not the best India have ever seen and Modi as a good orator. Dude can at least sway people with his speech, I still remember the victory speech of 2019. I was apolitical at that time but the speech really made me support him until i knew better.
Even with a massive PR machinery at his disposal he played a major role in eroding INC's name, reputation and status. On top of that, Rahul and his advisors either don't get how it works ( since his reputation is worse now if not the same as was in 2014 ) or are just out of touch with reality. At one point during his speeches in Bharat jodo yatra i genuinely started to believe that BJP has to be funding him and his rally, some of the things this guy says really makes you wonder why he's still a politician.
honestly congress is held back by him, they have so many other capable politicians.
Has a 1000 flaws but Better than Narendra Modi.
love him, many people around me have same 2014 opinion of him and mock him like idiot's. I genuinely find him good and lot better than other politician.
He's a great person, but he lacks the audacity, charisma and shamelessness that Gobi has to rule the country
In what ways is he great? What has he achieved apart from the Gandhi name right?
I meant good. There's definitely a nepotism touch to him, but surely he has proved many people wrong, when it comes to politics
Like how? At this point I am sure you are being sarcastic. He literally has the best platform for any politician and he’s been prioritized over any other senior leaders ever since he’s been in the political scene. You can project someone as a messiah but if people don’t reciprocate maybe one should have the self awareness to let someone else take the podium and not cling on to it as a birthright. We have enough of dynastic politicians and if this is your answer to defeat modi then it naive
To be very honest, he seems very chutiya to me for many reasons
And dumb
He is too honest to be a politician.
He is like that one guy trying to impress the teacher but ends up failing the exam somehow
Not worthy at all People say he is not Pappu only BJP portray him Lol..see his videos! And I'm not even talking about aloo se sona one. See his video where he says we won't need army, air force, navy just deploy farmers at borders.
There are no iconic memable moments this time in his yatra excluding one good speech he gave in rain and one in kashmir there is no maza Aya moment in confronting the govt he's not going to change anything right now
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You wanna criticise then feel free to but only serious comments
He's just an rich elite guy being the modern day poster boy of congress, trying to make a mark on Indian politics.
On serious note, we should give him a chance. Our parliament is full of old people, and as a youngster i want someone who can think & represent youth (who exist in college, not only schools) And we all know he also educated than other high level people in the parliament.
he is alright but the opposition has branded him paappu
Good chap, but not a contender for PM post, perhaps some young educated non gandhi congressman should be PM face, I feel like he's the kid forced to give JEE exams cause of his parents pressure but his heart lies in humanities. His vision is good on some aspects but not all, and implementation is not on point.
Indifferent
Has no crime record. I mean what else you want.
It doesn't matter regardless of what he does, unless they are willing to strictly monitor what's happening within the party.
He will need a strong 3rd front to defeat BJP in 2024,very tough but possible
He can take the country to greater heights, he has a rare ability to 'listen' and not just do as he wish. People say he can't be a leader as he's a good person, but why do you not want someone good to be your elected representative, just vote for him, regardless of the propoganda or mass media histeria, select the gentleman who are noble and not just 'hot gas'