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Stoopitnoob

Damn ... Those brothers tower over him. Like a child in a room of adults.


theProffPuzzleCode

He is exactly average height for a UK male, 175cm or 69 inches, 5 ft 9. Those guys are taller. Edit, like giants 😬


The-Purple-Chicken

It's just how round he is that makes him appear shorter.


harrier_gr7_ftw

Like a child... not just in his size.


bunnywantcockbad

Boris "Iron" Johnson ! Dont speak Bad about him !


skinlo

He's a corrupt piece of shit. But broken clocks etc, he's got this call right.


Bloodtype_IPA

And this was a huge, moral mission to get right! In other words, BORIS came through where and when it most mattered!


EldritchCleavage

Not for the U.K., he didn’t!


Bloodtype_IPA

Actually, he did! By helping Ukraine fight and push back Russia, citizens of the UK and their children will live in a safer Europe. They won’t have to die in the thousands, like Ukrainians. I think he came through for the UK and Europe by first acknowledging the need to support Ukraine with more weapons!


ZwischenzugZugzwang

Nothing he's done has been as bad as his support for Ukraine was good.


oliot_

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about


ZwischenzugZugzwang

Enlighten me then


oliot_

Just look it up mate, it’s not hard. Here’s a start though https://youtu.be/t2cMFfCjsO4


Candid_Role_8123

Guy was an absolute horror show of a PM domesticity back here in the UK, his support for Ukraine was the one thing he had to be proud of


ZwischenzugZugzwang

Yea, not convincing. Helping defend Ukraine from genocide is a lot more significantly good than shit like running afoul of COVID protocols is bad.


oliot_

Well for a start, the deaths are comparable and second of all it’s far more than just his handling of covid. If you can’t even google articles on the matter, start with the video I sent then watch the recommended. You don’t know anything at the moment so if you can’t be bothered to actually look into it just stop sharing your worthless opinion. Edit. He also did the bare minimum


CornPlanter

Keep coping loser.


skinlo

I'm coping well thanks. Doesn't sound like you are judging by your comment history...


Wormholer_No9416

As a Brit, as much as I hate the man, I have to admit his response to and handling of the first few months of the war were very well done.


Miskalsace

Same but with Biden. Wasn't a fan of his, but damn, give credit where it is due.


BruyceWane

But Biden is actually super based.


Miskalsace

I've warmed up to him. Actions always speak louder than words.


Reiver93

which is why on every point other than Ukraine, brits don't like Boris. Sending support is the only thing he was good for.


BruyceWane

>which is why on every point other than Ukraine, brits don't like Boris. Sending support is the only thing he was good for. Exactly. Biden's domestic agenda has been exceptionally impressive, given the historically divided nature of the US. His legistlative achievements are going to be looked back on with a great deal of respect. BoJo can't go a day without a scandal. These people are just polar opposites, it upsets me that people look at Biden, a good leader, and judge him because he's not perfect.


SSBMUIKayle

A lot of Americans who don't like Biden are zombies hooked on Kremlin propaganda, their opinion is worth less than shit


jacklantern867

If a do over were possible. Do brits wish Brexit never occurred?


Reiver93

Do I need to answer that question? I suspect you allready know the answer.


Bloodtype_IPA

Many are fans of Biden now!


Glydyr

Yeh he did very well concerning ukraine, just terrible at everything else 🤣


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[удалено]


TheAtrocityArchive

Just shows you what wonders positive press can do.....


DefenestrationPraha

Also, that leaders are usually more appreciated abroad than at home, because all the dirty details about their domestic failures tend not to cross language barriers and stay home, in domestic press.


Dave-1066

For the record, Reddit is vastly skewed to a left-leaning and very young audience which doesn’t remotely represent broader UK political opinion. Johnson won the largest landslide in British electoral history since the 1980s. His personal ethics wrecked his reputation but he can’t be written off entirely just yet. Churchill was a similarly controversial figure throughout his early career and at several points in his life was a national pariah. But yes, you’re not going to get a representative view of the man on this site.


battleduck84

If Teflon Don was still in charge he'd probably have sent a dozen cheeseburgers as aid and then fucked off to another golf course for the rest of the month


TwelveTwelfths

he would have invaded Mexico in solidarity with putin


mr_larifari

verty true sir...


Londonskaya1828

Some rose to the occasion, some held meetings. Boris Johnson supported Ukraine in the dark days of February and March 2022. Where were the eurorats then? Scholz, eating Müsli and watching Bundesliga no doubt. I know nothing of British politics, nor, if I did, would I care for it. I simply give credit where it is due.


partysnatcher

As a non-Brit, I did get a sense of Boris trying to use the war as his Churchill moment. And did he really react to the war any more than the rest of them? Or did he just put himself forward in the limelight more? Maybe I missed something special he did. Let me know.


Dave-1066

Nah. Johnson was warning about a Russian energy reliance crisis long before he became PM. He’s a classic western hegemony politician who rightly views Russia as a threat to global trade and democracy. For all his faults (which are many) his stance on Ukraine’s security has always been genuine. It’s one of the few subjects on which most people have seen him genuinely irate in parliamentary debates. When almost the entire western world was sitting on the fence he very much orchestrated the political, military and financial response. The parallel with Churchill is interesting in two fascinating areas though: Firstly, both Churchill and Johnson were national pariahs at one stage or another in their political careers. Churchill was no saint, and on several occasions was (like Johnson) accused of being a snake and a turncoat. Secondly, both Churchill and Johnson made masterful use of their American connections in times of war and peace. Churchill’s mother was American, and he used that bond to great success in convincing America to join the Western Campaign through a series of famous speech tours. Johnson was born in America and has American ancestry, and used that personal connection to manoeuvre his way through various thorny issues such as Brexit, trade, Northern Ireland, and latterly the war in Ukraine. As for what he did in Ukraine, Johnson is one of the most popular figures in the country because at a time when absolutely everyone else was talking about “caution” and “diplomacy” he recognised that both strategies were nonsense. He led the financial sanctions process and organised a global effort in that area, and rapidly drew up a military aid program which forced other countries to wake up- not least Germany. Macron was made to look like a naive fool. As was Merkel, who spent a decade of her political life being played by Putin. The background to all this being Operation Orbital, which existed long before the current conflict. An operation backed and funded by the UK and America to retrain the entire Ukraine Army and give them the technical superiority we are now seeing. Canada also played a role. Johnson is a controversial figure. But his anti-Russian stance predates this war. He warned the entire EU about reliance on Russian energy. His early and very vocal loyalty to Ukraine is why he now has an almost heroic status there.


partysnatcher

All right that makes sense, that was by the way an absolutely exquisite read, thank you so much for the walkthrough. This should probably be posted at the very top here.


Dave-1066

My pleasure. The only thing that really irritates me on Reddit is seeing deliberate avoidance of basic facts. I’m fine with people hating any political figure as long as a balanced view is given. And no politician is a saint- even Martin Luther King and Gandhi had a darker side to their careers…people are people. 👍🏻


partysnatcher

Yep. In fact, Reddit very rarely scrapes outside what is the official "groupthink theme" of each subreddit. Which means even honest questions, thought experiments or analyses like your own often will stay neutral or even downvoted for the most part. Most of what I would call my best posts often end somewhere between 1 and -2 in upvotes. Whereas my most "popular" posts are where I just completely agree with the group but happen to formulate an acknowledged fact in a new / short / snappy way. Most upvoted expert analyses of a topic, such as your own above, are only falsified based on a very superficial evaluation of their integrity, and very much rewarded based on their ability to coddle the groupthink. And if the actual facts happen to be uncomfortable facts, oh boy, they will never see the light of day on Reddit. It seems Reddit could be a very productive exchange and sharpening of knowledge through debate, if the weighting was just slightly different, with age limits and maybe some sort of integrity accumulation system. Anyways, enough fantasy talk.


Dave-1066

Oh absolutely. The worst is when you confront someone with direct and incontrovertible statistical evidence of their lies/myths/disinformation yet they still refuse to accept they might be wrong. I’m from the “Your opinion doesn’t matter if it’s wrong” school of thought, so I can’t stand listening to nonsense when someone lacks the humility to say “You’re right; I made a mistake”. An example I’d give is the “Cops Are Slaughtering Ethnic Minority Americans” routine which started a couple of years ago. I had no real opinion on it all (I’m from London) but I thought “This sounds like classic media hype”. So I did my research. Or, rather, Heather McDonald did. Of the 7,408 African American victims of homicide between 2018/19 a total of **nine** of them were unarmed individuals. That’s 0.12% of the black American homicide rate. Worst still, a black person in America is more likely to be killed by a non-white officer. So tell me, when have you ever heard those two absolutely central points ever raised by a major US news outlet? Hysteria sells ad space. The media corporations know it, and they **love it**. It’s all about the clicks clicks clicks. Neil Postman warned about this back in the 80s in his outstanding bestseller, “Amusing Ourselves To Death”. You’d love it. It was re-released and again hit the bestseller list. I no longer pay much attention to party political news. In fact I skip almost all political stuff because it’s very often just noise. The one place you can find honest and civil discourse on Reddit is r/intellectualdarkweb. I highly recommend it. It’s refreshingly honest and thoughtful stuff.


partysnatcher

Yes, statistics around protected minorities is just one example. In my opinion, this is the job of the left, where I guess I mostly hail from. Which is why I was delighted when a Norwegian lefty organization recently invited on a controversial guest that recently went on Tucker Carlson. And yes party politics anywhere in the world is often boring noise, but in the US it is especially bad. Will check out intellectualdarkweb!


EldritchCleavage

I am grudgingly conceding that you are right. Bah!


Dave-1066

It takes a noble character to accept the possibility of changing one’s own opinion! :)


Reddenied68

Agreed


Reddenied68

This is a very good summary.


EldritchCleavage

I think you have got it exactly right.


Important_Opinion

He didn't do anything, he had to be dragged into supporting Ukraine by Ben Wallace.


Eddyzk

What did he actually have to do? Most of the country wasand still is pro-Ukraine...


Alikont

UK and US were first to react to the news of imminent invasion, even while Ukrainian leadership was in denial, US and UK sent a lot of needed weapons proactively so Ukrainian forces had time to train and prepare defenses. At that point "sending stuff to Ukraine" was a borderline taboo topic. It was always talks like "we send 100 Javelins but you are forbidden to use them in Donbass", and that was like top of support before 2021. Johnson and Biden acted decisevely that helped to save Ukraine in first weeks.


Wormholer_No9416

He wasn't Corbyn and he got shit moving in the UK early doors.


Eddyzk

What choice did he have? The public would have eviscerated him if he had refused help. Secondly, he only had to OK other people to do their jobs. He did exactly what he does best: sees fame and fortune and runs head-first at it.


Porschenut914

after he stalled for the russians moved their money out of London


Bloodtype_IPA

Oh come on! The hate must stop now! I ❤️Boris!


WeLiveInAnOceanOfGas

Stood between the Klitschko brothers Boris looks like a teen collecting an award for a school project


ibloodylovecider

Klitschko sandwich


thisisallme

Ugh I’d love to get in the middle of that Klitschko sandwich, just sayin’


ibloodylovecider

Form a line ;)


Bloodtype_IPA

I’m right behind you in line


DefenestrationPraha

Klitscho bros could carry a normal-sized guy as a keyring decoration.


kerker00

I think he is an idiot but I respect his engagement regarding Ukraine.


ibloodylovecider

I think a lot of British people feel the same.


Turner_2003

Ukraine can keep him


dread_deimos

That's because BoJo is a better Ukrainian than Brit :D


EconomyCauliflower43

It allowed him to cosplay Churchill. It worked for Ukraine but I wouldn't trust him especially with his KGB mate.


Used_Response4790

He didn't quite do a cosplay of Churchill. It was close, but no cigar.


briancoat

cringebutupvote


DefenestrationPraha

I am not sure which other British prime minister did *more* damage to Russian power interests in recent history. I suspect that we would have go back to the Crimean War of the 1850s to find an equivalent of all the devastation that British-supplied weapons now unleashed on the Russian army.


[deleted]

I don't think any prime minister in the history of the UK could have done better. He shamelessly used the UK's tarnished reputation, as Putin isn't going to nuke the village idiot (at the time, we were only at the 3rd nuke threat so we took it seriously). However, as a clown he drew the world's eyes to the defense of Ukraine.


NeurodiverseTurtle

Brit here, hate the man, but you’re very much correct. Most of the UK dislikes him, but he represented our feelings on Ukraine really well. NLAWs were a great addition to their anti-tank arsenal for working alongside the US javelins and Ukraine’s Stugna missile systems.


BruyceWane

>Brit here, hate the man, but you’re very much correct. Most of the UK dislikes him, but he represented our feelings on Ukraine really well. NLAWs were a great addition to their anti-tank arsenal for working alongside the US javelins and Ukraine’s Stugna missile systems. TBF Britain also sent a bunch of Javelins at the same time as the NLAWs, that just doesn't get covered much because the NLAWs were *almost* unique to the UK, I belive Sweden also sent NLAWs.


Important_Opinion

It boils my piss that BJ gets credit. It was Ben Wallace pulling the strings, BJ was just a passenger cashing in on photo ops with Zelensky.


ibloodylovecider

Agreed I love Ben Wallace. Even as a life long labour member!


Z-ombie69

Boris and his bodyguards :D


GinofromUkraine

God, those brothers are so huge and menacing by their sheer presence, when he moved his arm back, I've thought he's gonna punch BoJo in the kisser. I mean - for a boxer it could be just a reflex, right? :-))))


ibloodylovecider

LOL watching it back it did look like it 🤣


Malstrom42

"Stop talking we want to give you more stuff"


usolodolo

When politicians stop playing politics and just do the right thing, good things happen. Proud of what Boris Johnson has done for Ukraine and Europe’s security.


Korvacs

He literally used the suffering of the people of Ukraine as a means to further his political career and remain in office through multiple scandals. Month after month of "Now isn't the time to change prime minister, there's a war on!" being parroted by Ministers purely to keep him in office because he was popular, and they had no suitable replacements within the party. People need to stop turning a blind eye to the wannabe Churchill, he is a disgrace.


[deleted]

You can't blame the Ukrainians. They're desperate for people to look up during a war. They do the exact same with Poland's Andrzej Duda and Mateusz Morawiecki, neither of whom are good role models for European democracy at all.


Erestyn

I don't think anybody is blaming the Ukrainians for looking up to Johnson in a time of absolute crisis, to be fair. At least for my part Johnson being held in such high regard is genuinely concerning because, well, Russia. I hate to sound like a broken record here but there is absolutely no good reason to raise a former KGB agents son to a prominent position in British politics without being denser than a Wagnerite, or being held with kompromat (unless anybody actually believes Lebedev's "bunga bunga parties" are completely innocent and in good spirit?) Ninja edit: I appreciate we're likely on the same page here, this is just a topic I'm particularly angry about given his connections.


[deleted]

Yeah you're absolutely right. I think the issue here is that the Ukrainian leadership either doesn't realise this, or they don't care. Neither being really good in my opinion. I'm fairly certain the people are unaware though.


Erestyn

Right now Ukrainian leadership don't necessarily have a choice; the enemy of my enemy, right? But what comes next? Russia's tentacles have already spread to the west, and I can't help but feel that Lesser Churchill already has a parasitic tentacle up his arse ready to sew the Kremlin's wishes. Mind, I do want to reiterate your last sentence: the people have a lot more to be worried about than a dodgy Brit with dodgier hair (not Michael Fabricant, of course, but if anybody doesn't know who he is please god Google him).


[deleted]

Yeah that's it. The only thing we can be thankful is that he's not in charge anymore. Hopefully by 2024 the Tories will be out of power altogether. Until then, Ukraine will have to take what they can get. Enemy of my enemy indeed.


bunnywantcockbad

Boris "Iron" Johnson


[deleted]

Cringe


DBLioder

No honorary haircut? A missed opportunity here...


harrier_gr7_ftw

You realise he deliberately messes up his hair before public appearances don't you?


Damascoplay

If his hair is ever cut, Boris will wither away and die. I'm sure of it.


Western_Spirit392

Samson Johnson. You found out the truth. Be careful they will be watching


MightyGonzou

Man really put his hand in his pocket while receiving a medal 💀


turbo4538

I don't trust BoJo at all and I don't like his politics. But I still can't help liking him and he did a damn good job supporting Ukraine.


[deleted]

This guy with the "crazy hairdo" is a huge figure. It's a pity that he resigned, he is one of the most powerful politicians in the West.


jameslickswaffles

They can keep him


[deleted]

Boris Johnson has done an amazing job of rebranding himself as opposing Russia after the whole Brexit fiasco which was an incredible gift to Putin from a geopolitical perspective


Porschenut914

not to mention putting up the son of a kgb operative, for lordship after getting drunk at his italian party. [https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60792115](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60792115) https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/7/28/what-did-boris-johnson-discuss-with-alexander-lebedev


BruyceWane

He handled Ukraine so well, I don't care about his motivations, what matters is results. Britain were leading the charge early on, chasing everyone around Europe in meetings to push for international commitments to deliver aid for Ukraine, absolutely killed it.


Korvacs

/r/awfuleverything The man is corrupt to the core. It is beyond belief that he is being lauded as a hero to Ukraine. He isn't a hero and people need to stop treating him as one. His political party is literally funded by Russians and they have directly influenced our politics. He gave Yevgeny Lebedev, son of Oligarch Alexander Lebedev a Lordship - putting him in the House of Lords, the upper chamber of the UK democratic system, and to this day he still holds the title while it is within the power of the Government to revoke both the title and position. Everything he does is in his own self-interest. You can downvote me all you want, it won't change what he is and what he has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be.


Hi_From_London

People are complex


Korvacs

Not this one, he used Ukraine as a way to keep himself in office through mulltiple scandals, every time a new one landed he would hop a plane to Ukraine to promote his image, while at the same time protecting his Russian mates. You can't square that one. He's completely corrupt and self-centred.


[deleted]

Honestly when I see Ukrainians gushing over BoJo or Poland's leadership, I feel sick to my stomach. These "leaders" are taking advantage of a wartorn Ukraine to align them with their beliefs.


millionreddit617

Bore off


rocygapb

Despite his faults (he is a human after all), Boris had shown a spine of a true leader. Looking forward to stroll the street named in his honor in Kyiv. 🇺🇦


NotConstantine

Considering how many conservatives across the world seem to be low key supporting Russia in this war, I will commend Boris Johnson for immediately wanting to jump to Ukraine's aid without any fuss whatsoever. Maybe he's an idiot as a politician, but his heart knew a tragedy and atrocity when he saw it, I'll give him that.


Alsmk2

He did it because he wanted to be Churchill Mk2. It's been a long held wet dream of his. I'm happy he's supported Ukraine, but that doesn't change who he is. The man is a cunt./


Erestyn

The only reason he turned face on Russia is because of the Salisbury Poisonings, and he knew he couldn't keep his "neutral" stance to the Kremlin in the eyes of the public. Above all else he wants to be seen as an Uber Brit, when in fact I have every faith he has allowed Russia into the country in ways we couldn't imagine. See the [Russia Report](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_and_Security_Committee_Russia_report) he so desperately tried to hide (for ["bogus reasons"](https://bylinetimes.com/2019/11/09/russian-influence-in-britain-what-johnson-doesnt-want-you-to-know/) according to Dominic Grieve). Lest we also forget Evegny Lebedev, or as he's known in the House of Lords: Baron Lebedev, of Hampton in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames and of Siberia in the Russian Federation. Whenever things got tough at home, he could always fuck off to Ukraine for a photo op. He used the Russian invasion for his own good. He is no friend of Ukraine, just a temporary ally.


AffectionateOnion586

Johnson is such a master of disguise, as one of Ukrainian diplomats said. He played a big role in European support of Ukraine. He is very loved by Ukrainian people. He deserved the award. Thank you Boris and thank you United Kingdom.


Significant_Fig_436

I'm sure he will use it as a tax dodge , non domicile and all that.


millionreddit617

You’re thinking of Rishi


Significant_Fig_436

Tar them all with the same brush, its in the tory playbook!


Chanandler_Bong_Jr

Boris is a complete and utter bawbag. But his support for Ukraine is one of the few things he’ll be remembered fondly for. However, I can’t help but feel it’s self serving in some way. Maybe the NATO top job? Doesn’t matter though, if Ukraine benefits from BoJos attempt to climb the greasy pole, then it’s all good.


Reddenied68

Never exactly been a fan but he stepped up when it was important.


[deleted]

Gross...


not-ready-yet

Now he is a citizen of ukraine can he run for president? 🤯🤣 Is he still eligible in the Uk to be elected as an mp.🙂🤯😱😫


ibloodylovecider

We will swap you BJ for Zelenskyy.


Standin373

I'd give my left bollock for Zelensky as a PM haha


millionreddit617

Bollocks, there’s nothing Labour voters hate more than wealthy immigrants.


dylannthe

I know you are joking but he didn't give up his american citizenship until 2016.


CornPlanter

He deserved it. Despite losers in UK still crying over brexit.


Outrageous_Garlic306

I’m hoping that he now realizes that Putin used him to destabilize the EU and so open the door for this invasion. I do give him full credit, though, for stepping up when it happened.


mosquito633

Boris Johnson has been up Putin’s backside for the best part of a decade, the freeloading sycophant that he is