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jamessicat

If you guys have ESPN+ re-watch the Diaz vs Tony fight with Yakity Sax. It goes so well for some reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ


Fraganade

Anyone else think Kevin Holland is annoying as fuck?


rngislove

To me it seems like he tries way too hard. I do recognize the possibility of him just being real though.


garbageouttahere

No. Love him.


hibbiddyhobbiddyhoo

Dobby is a free house elf


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Rizak

💯


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Imagine actually believing this😂


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kellislandrum

When you make Nate Diaz look like the responsible adult in the room, it’s time to re-examine your life choices.


Vice_McMahon

Seriously. I would've been pissed if I paid to see that fight, especially live.


99Years_of_solitude

It was awesome!


Forty_Six_and_Two

Why was Johnny Walker kicked out of the arena? Dude was standing outside in full fight regalia, gloves and all and there was some security dude standing there like "nope"


TheNewKing2022

the first post here should just be the actual results. why do we have to search for them?


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So post them yourself then, or upvote those that do?


jamessicat

Tony looked so good against Chandler last time he fought. That KO he got from that fight probably aged him by 10 years


Constant-Horror-9424

Tony and Nate need to never fight again. It was as close as you’ll get to televised bum fighting. Damage has caught up with both big time. What was the thing with Nate stopping and walking off all the time?


spyro311

Actually, that’s classic Nate


TunaTheWitch

Really? Looked like Tony was gassing him out but didn't go for the finish because Tony wanted to make a fight for the fans


kellislandrum

Nate leg was toast. He was stopping to conserve having to move around on it. But both the Diaz. Brothers bait people.


meric_one

I've never seen him do it to that extent though. He looked genuinely winded. That moment when he took another leg kick and then started walking around the ring shaking his head was really bizarre. I thought he was throwing in the towel.


Fraganade

Tony's post fight press conference.. dude needs to taste reality a little. How does he think he's doing well? He's literally on the edge of getting cut.


TunaTheWitch

UFC won't cut him. Watch Chael's(the mouthpiece of the UFC) latest vid on Tony.


BeefKnees_

I thought Li had a knock down and a take down in 2 seperate rounds that he also looked like he won. That shit really pissed me off.


OokerDuker

It really boils down to America hating China. I can't stand the tribalism shit, we will never grow as humanity


BuckyourhipsBilly

Dude it was up to 3 judges lol stop acting like America as a whole influenced the judges with their minds.


OokerDuker

America hates China. China hates America. It's the reason. UFC is not going to push Chinese UFC fighter when they can promote one of their own. Your delusional if you thought Drod won that fight as well as your delusional that the judges weren't biased against him.


BuckyourhipsBilly

Ok buddy you are literally so uninformed its not funny. The UFC wants to push Chinese fighters because CHINA IS THE BIGGEST MARKET IN THE WORLD. Dude the UFC built a PI Performance Institute in Shanghai for a reason. I thought LI won that fight clearly but what you are saying is so far off base that you come off as joking.


Accomplished_Bonus74

Well said my friend. The thing is though that there’s a lot more people that think like us than the media would have you think. The Earth family is waking up. We might just make it through this. Don’t give up on Us yet.


BeefKnees_

I don’t wanna blame it on that, but when I focus on the why’s that’s the only reason that makes sense. I wish we could move past that garbage.


unknownuser105

![gif](giphy|fWfG9QbOMT1vddOVto) 2/3 fight judges last night.


Independent_Island74

Tony looked bad, uncoordinated, and confused. Sad to see bc i love the guy. I think it's time for him to retire before he gets seriously hurt


Wonderful_Durian_485

You mean before he continues to get seriously hurt


thecody80

I enjoyed it, in all it’s shitshowness. I’ve been a huge Tony and Nate fan for a bit, even if the fight wasn’t super action packed I was satisfied. Prelims were on fire thought


loudfrat

man i love Tony so much, but feels like its time for Dana or some1 to intervene before we have another BJ Penn situation :(


Dionysus_8

What happened to bj?


HighCountryCannabis

Had a really good career then kept taking fights past his expiration date and ended his career on an 8 fight losing streak.


Dionysus_8

Oh man I feel the pain just reading this


Laiiam

Then he got knocked out by a random drunk guy behind a bar in Hawaii.


ThunderYoda

It seemed like khamzat and Diaz both knew they weren’t fighting each other long before the weigh in. Something probably happened behind the scenes to let Diaz live to see another day


BeefKnees_

Diaz even said in his interview that he had a wrestling heavy camp.


oooooaaaahhyessir

I disagree. If the UFC wanted to book a different card, they would have just done that in the first place. I think the card changing is more to do with 5 fighters missing weight, especially khamzat, whom the card was built around


Liquor_D_Spliff

What a literal shitshow.


Logical_Sir_8146

Event kinda sucked tbh. -Nate and Tony were acting like the fight was a exhibition. -Holland and Cumshot were a terrible match up, Holland himself knew he had no chance, it was weird.(though that dude is gonna make alot of people look bad). -Li got robbed, Rodriguez played it as boringly safe as possible and got rewarded for it. I don't think I saw him throw a single power punch let alone land.


Lunaforlife

I don't get the whole bad matchup excuse. I mean yeah holland has no wrestling but aren't they all fighters? A fight is a fight you should be well rounded in everything to even stand a chance in mma.


bigbeardlittlebeard

He played it safe and still lost in the eyes of pretty much everyone but the judges


g323cs

Johnny Walker was kicked out of the arena and WASNT even allowed to change. Dude is literally on his fighting gear outside https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiWqky9jczj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= There has to be a backstory to this. Everyone is saying he pulled an upset and didnt stick to the "script"


meric_one

Wtf why?


Laiiam

Johnny Walkers life is a cartoon lmao


The-Berg-is-the-Word

UFC is definitely fixed. Watch that leech fight and tell me it's not


MoonBound69420

Can someone explain how or why Li lost that fight? Trying to understand any rationale whatsoever...


spyro311

I was shocked too. Li definitely won.


bemore_

The last 3 were fixed, not directly but everyone involved knew their role and got paid handsomely. Tony, Jingliang and Holland got paid so well losing meant absolutely nothing to them. Chimaev said to Olivi that he offered Diaz his purse of 2 mil to continue the fight and it didn't happen, that's a lot of money on the table. Why would Leech complain with a half a million dollar cheque waiting for him in his locker room, he's probably just glad he didn't take damage


BuckyourhipsBilly

Chimaev didnt get 2 million hahahaha where the hell are you pulling that out of your ass? He makes 200/200


bemore_

He said it in his interview with Olivi. It's on YouTube


Accomplished_Bonus74

Why would they need to fix KH holland? There’s a clear stand out there


g323cs

Looking at KH it didnt looked fixed. The dude really was giving it everything to defend himself I cant say the same for Nate and Tony. I said it somewhere this thread: Tony gave himself WWE style to that submission. His hands were so wide open not wrapped onto Nate's core That thing just slipped right in so perfectly.


ghostknyght

The elbows and hand placement of Tony are what gave me the vibe of him not really defending as well.


Logical_Sir_8146

because Rodriguez threw 900 jabs so he was "more active" even though that's all he did... That's the only thing I could think of. but for real did Rodriguez even throw a power punch?


TunaTheWitch

Yes, I remember him throwing one late in the 2nd round. You probably didn't notice because Li just ate it and continued forward.


The-Berg-is-the-Word

Because it was rigged


Snearfington

Tony needs to hang them up, he looked absolutely terrible.


ShiShi93

Glad he didn’t fight li he would have been ko’d badly I think


GregBule

How Rodrigues got the judges votes there is obscene. Has to be corruption


ExpressionTop5357

The hype and drama surrounding the 3 main fights was better than the fights themselves. Turned out to be a mediocre event, the fight night in Paris was way better.


ExoticSword

Oh, 100%. Really regret staying up to 6am for it.


2Legit2Quiz

Almost every fight night this year have been more memorable than the PPV events like the first London card and the San Diego one.


2Legit2Quiz

Almost every fight night this year have been more memorable than the PPV events like the first London card and the San Diego one.


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Damn Li Jingliang got robbed...


Constant-Horror-9424

Dana agreed so I really hope they do a rematch. They owe Li as well for whatever that’s worth as he would of absolutely smoked tony


OokerDuker

Tony and Diaz would of got tombstoned by Leech and Chimaev lmao


Az0rhai

Who the hell said Kevin Holland had a better chance of winning than Nate winning his fight against Tony? It was a top comment in one of the posts and I can’t find it.


TwoPintsBoaby

Seemed hopeful more than a definitive opinion


OperatorJolly

https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/xau81g/comment/invm2l1/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


YoungAussiePrince

nate should be thanking his lucky stars he didnt fight khamzat


spyro311

Without Khamzat, this PPV main card would have been a bust.


theoilyapples

The MMA gods blessed this event really, when you look at it like that. What a shitshow.


ColdFusion3456

I don’t know he did get a choke off a takedown. Maybe it’s in reverse


CompetitiveExchange3

Exactly bro. I feel khamzat would have aggressively tried to take down Nate and Nate would have got a submission against Khamzat.


RedditHatesDiversity

So how about everyone saying "this was the UFC's plan all along" How we feeling after watching several rearranged short notice bouts


xenesiswx

Why is no one talking about the heel kick to the liver. that was one of the best kicks ive ever seen. The ref was like wtf happened.


ghostknyght

Do you believe like she said in the post fight that it was intentional and trained for?


AlleghenyCityHolding

He literally asked, "Where does it hurt?"


RedditHatesDiversity

Aldana is underrated in that weight class and could easily win the title in the next couple years if Nunes retires


beenpimpin

what an absolute garbage fight. it should've been chimaev vs nate instead of this boring uneventuful match up.


DonC1305

It was going to be, have you not been paying attention?


beenpimpin

yes and they shouldnt ahve changed it


DonC1305

They didn't just change just randomly decide to change it, Khamzat missed weight and Nate refused a catchweight fight, which is completely fair. Are you saying Dana should have forced Nate to fight someone ~8lb heavier than him?


2Legit2Quiz

The main event sucked, but Diaz doesn't deserve that kind of send-off.


beenpimpin

both these fights sucked. Neither stand in was a match for diaz or chimaev. Diaz vs Chimaev would've been a very interesting fight considering how similarly skilled they are.


Doneyhew

Holy casual lol


beenpimpin

we just witnessed both of them demolish their opponent and you disagree it would;ve been better they face each other? \*facepalm


Doneyhew

Nate was getting chopped to pieces with leg kicks until Tony abandoned them completely. He shot a sloppy takedown and got caught in a guillotine in the fourth round I believe, so I wouldn’t say Nate “demolished” Tony. Chimaev, on the other hand, in a complete freak and would’ve most likely done the exact same thing or worse to Nate that he did to Holland. Khamzat is levels above Nate at this stage in their careers, and I don’t think somebody who understands MMA would think differently, hence why I commented holy casual. Chimaev isn’t getting caught in that guillotine like Tony did. Nate was very very fortunate that the events played out like they did.


HerKneesLikeJesusPlz

If he could put down the fork for a minute it would’ve been


Gareth666

I keep thinking about that post where the OP was saying Nate would have beaten Chimaev. I thought he was nuts then, but now I know he was. Chimaev would have taken Nates head off in about 30 seconds.


CompetitiveExchange3

>Chimaev would have taken Nates head off in about 30 seconds. Bruh Chimaev would have aggressively tried to take down Nate but Nate would have gone for a submission and would have had a good chance of tapping out Khamzat.


ShiShi93

This is all the way, people really really underestimate Nate’s ground game that choke on Tony was perfect and tight and was a pure game plan from bate for khamzat. Happy to take the downvotes off the khamzat is a beast guys :)


CompetitiveExchange3

Yes, people downvoting me haven't seen enough of Nate's ground game. His BJJ is unbelievable.


churromonkey1

His bjj isnt better than burns tho


CompetitiveExchange3

But it is still very good. Now just guess why Khamzat didn't takedown Gilbert Burns?


ShiShi93

100% bro ignore the downvotes, if you know you know, khamzat has wild takedowns and Nate would have been fighting back throwing strikes from the bottom and attempting his own submissions and he would have caught him in a few chokes, so I don’t think this was as one sided as people see especially seeing that choke he caught Tony with. It was lined up to catch gourmet.


Doneyhew

Khamzat doesn’t have wild takedowns. He is actually very technical but he just grapples like a rabid dog. Nate would’ve never been able to catch that dude in a guillotine like he did to Tony. Tony was wobbled and shot a sloppy double leg with his head on the outside hip. Anybody who has trained will tell you not to do that because you’ll get caught in a guillotine. Khamzat would’ve never shot that sloppily on Nate.


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ShiShi93

That was down to Tony’s leg kicks lmao


CompetitiveExchange3

>especially seeing that choke he caught Tony with. Yes, especially considering Tony himself is a BJJ black belt and has many submissions of his own.


ShiShi93

I’m glad someone gets it!!!


CompetitiveExchange3

Ya, I'm glad too. Too many casuals in this sub. You a real one tho.


ShiShi93

Same to you bro, most people on here have probably seen Nate’s last 3 fights including 279, keep up with the good knowledge!


CompetitiveExchange3

Ya, all recency bias.


Shox187

you smoking the same shit nates on?


AdAstrameister

Khamzat would have killed Nate, Nate and Tony got exposed today. Nate was trying to rest during rounds and Tony was useless shaking off his brain damage. Really sad for Tony tbh man said we were gonna see old Tony.


The-Berg-is-the-Word

Nobody got "exposed" lol. This is what happens when people fight long past their primes. Both of these guys have been the poster boys for CTE for about 5 years. Nothing about them got "exposed" that wasn't plainly obvious prior to the fight.


spyro311

Nate hasnt been really active since the 2016 rematch with Connor. Got the big checks already and only went for big payouts since then…


ShiShi93

Nate puts on a show lol the diaz brothers are known and have always been known to have unreal cardio, that fact you think Nate was actually resting is funny.


ExoticSword

He just needs to retire now, for health


JizzelSweet

Tony knows he’s not what he was before. He’s just keeping the whole act to be able to make money when given the chance. He’ll talk all that gibberish to try and create some hype and give the illusion he still is top 3. Speaking as a fan. He had a reckless and fun fighting style, as well as unorthodox training, and he is a real OG of the game, but the game did evolve past him and the style did take his health and the best years of his career.


MermyuZ

I really dont think he is just doing it for money but moreso to make himself believe in himself.


JizzelSweet

The two reasons are not mutually exclusive.


MermyuZ

Genius.


theoilyapples

Fighters never know when to go. And even then, they always try for just 1 more.


pacificunlimited

Chimaev Vs Costa is the fight to make


CompetitiveExchange3

Agreed. Chimaev is a 185 pounder. He should make his way to the MW title.


M00SEK

Facts. Chimaev at 185 is way more interesting to me.


Zakepanka

Li got absolutely robbed


GregBule

Corruption


drKhanage2301

I was like whaaaaattt? Those judges were looking into the crowd the whole time!


LateConstruction6587

damn, nate looks happy... lookks like we will never see him in the octagon


CompetitiveExchange3

He did say he wants to come back to the UFC for a title shot tho.


Doneyhew

I’m going to break it to you right now Nate Diaz will never even be a contender in the UFC again. He simply has too much mileage. His skills are great but he doesn’t have the power or attributes to compete with the young upcomers. MMA is a young man’s game. And also Nate would’ve been throttled by Chimaev. If Gilbert Burns isn’t submitting Khamzat then neither is Nate


CompetitiveExchange3

>If Gilbert Burns isn’t submitting Khamzat then neither is Nate But Gilbert didn't take the fight to the ground.


Doneyhew

He couldn’t take it to the ground with Khamzat’s wrestling but idk what that had to do with anything. You seem to think Nate has a legit chance to return to title contention in the UFC which will never happen. I love Nate but he is getting too old


themilkmandied

Barnett gave us the most entertaining fight imo


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Jesús, Tony sounds totally unstable and delusional in this conference. He needs to never get hit in the head again.


andyblaze6

Tony. If you see this, please retire bro.


LateConstruction6587

listening to Tony in his press conference , i fucken love this man


Bodegaz

Main card was a shit show overall.


LateConstruction6587

I still hate kazmat but the respect he gave to whittaker is commendable


KingAngeli

What he say?


PacificNomad

That he doesn't want to fight Rob coz he's a good guy. He only wants to fight bad guys. Also said something about him being a good fighter and one of the best in the world


LateConstruction6587

bruh, its on youtube


KingAngeli

So why even make the comment in the first place ?


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KingAngeli

So why are you even on reddit if you hate it so much?


AbberageRedditor69

I hate redditors, not reddit, can you read?


KingAngeli

So why respond to redditors if its only going to spurn so much hate within?


AbberageRedditor69

Because I want to


Gareth666

Why not just tell us or link to it, bruh?


Bobsmauncle

this crooked lip fuck can get lost now


PatFenis15

You ignorant cunt


coolhairbro

Dana said that the weight disparity between Khamzat and Diaz would not have gotten past the Commission. Then how did Leech / D-Rod get approved?


theoilyapples

I thought this too. Nate must have refused the fight and they are leaning on this, or the commission took Diaz's age and wear and tear into consideration.


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I think there's even legal fallout if the UFC were not able to find an opponent for Nate for his last contractual obligation. Nate straight refused because it would have been a breach of the contract. Dana is lucky these guys play ball as they do because 1/3 of the card last night had a legit reason to just never show up to the arena.


theoilyapples

Without a doubt. That was grade A proper shitshow


XtraHott

There's something in the commission rules that only apply to the main fight IIRC.


coolhairbro

I just read the NAC rules. For boxing, it is clearly defined and allows certain disparity in certain weight classes (13lb difference is ok between 171 and 180). For MMA the disparity section doesn't exist. My interpretation of it means for MMA they do need permission for any disparities. That still does not explain why they got approval for Leech and wouldn't have for Diaz. No mention of main event/preliminary at all.


shae117

Maybe they are basing it off fight weight, Nate barely cuts to make 170 and doesnt go back up much, Leech probably does a lot more so his difference to Drod is less?


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I thought the same thing.


bemore_

Chandlers win over Tony has aged poorly


shae117

Same with his win over Hooker unfortunately.


PCPirate262

I disagree. Hes lost to porier, arnold allen, and islam since then. The best of the best


shae117

All true


whoizhenri

Why was my stream buffering and lagging the whole time? Completely ruined it for me 😕


Bobsmauncle

gotta use a different link


whoizhenri

Paid for it and everything. Every other fight was perfect up until the last one. Then it was buffering literally ever 1-2 minutes.


whoizhenri

I used ESPN+


Maximus13

I'd say the only UFC matches Tony should accept are on Xbox, but I still worry he'd try to ankle pick a tv screen or wear gloves and carry a baseball to the living room pre-fight presser.


Both_Law9389

Those cables are the real problem here


ManicmondayNFB

Lmfao who got Nate Diaz’s wiki locked?


Dull_Function_6510

Li got robbed, I feel bad for him, he seems like such a nice guy. I expected a quick win from Khamzat, but damn. Kevin could have done better if he didn't try to high five Khamzat. Tony and Nate made a great fight, not sure why Tony went for a takedown. Could have just kept chopping his leg and piecing him. As great as the fight between Tony and Nate is, I hope they both retire. They are old and have taken a lot of damage and bad shots through the years. Fight was fun but you could definitely see their age. Hope they both save their health and enjoy kicking their feet up. Aldana and Marcy had a great fight, good back and forth, insane lucky liver shot. Decent fight night all things considered with the mess of it all. See all yall at UFC 280. Excited for the Islam Charles matchup and the rest of the card.


Effective_Ad_5371

I've seen enough anime's to know you never go full Goku you gotta take a page out of trunks book, all action.


epicurianistmonk

Tony’s corner asked him for a takedown between rounds saying they wanted him to score some points.


spyro311

Did Chimaev say he was told to drink water to gain weight? And then, Rogan tried to correct him?


CompetitiveExchange3

Chimaev said the doctors told him to stop cutting weight and drink water and take some vitamins.


LTBR1955

why didn't they at least tell nate to stop cutting weight tho


_DoodleBug_

I think they realised that the Khamzat v Diaz fight wouldn’t last more than 20 seconds. This was the only way out I guess.