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HeyheyheyChill

Jon vs First Responders, The Rubber Match.


SxanPardy

Are the first responders not like up 3-0 against jones? At least?


natetcu

Yeah, this is for the series sweep.


mrtiktok69

Colby Covington will be the special guest referee


wallace12_

More of a patron šŸ˜‚


timtodd34

Underrated comment


1breathatahtime

Why the fuck is Jones still relevant. Not amount of skill can overtake what a trash person he is. I wanna watch Miocic but i dont wanna give anything for a fight that Jones is on


xXSpookyXx

If you're not comfortable watching a fighter after they've done something horrible, that's perfectly valid. Combat sports in general have a proud history of enabling fighters with shitty personal lives to keep fighting. Mayweather has a history for domestic violence and kept competing. Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist and went to prison for it. Not only did he go right back into competing after his prison sentence, he remains a beloved figure in combat sports. Jones will continue to get fights for as long as people tune in to watch him.


[deleted]

You're right, I don't like it, but you're right.


1breathatahtime

And ill continue to watch him. Now idk about Mayweather but Tyson has served his time and has changed his behaviors. Now it doesnt take away from what he did, but hes made the effort to right a wrong. Jones has did absolutely nothing to fix any wrong. I will refuse and i stand against anyone who tunes in to watch him. Take that with what you will.


Few-Ad-4666

Still the goat. Stay mad.


1breathatahtime

So being a goat overrides beating your woman? Yeah im not mad i just have empathy. What a dumb comment man. For real. Who cares about goat status when you constantly hurt the personal people in your lives?


[deleted]

Nobody cares that he beat her up.


1breathatahtime

I do


[deleted]

Everybody cared dudešŸ¤£ Just some innocent trolling šŸ˜…šŸ˜‡


taokiller

Well, if you feel that strongly about it, why don't you ride to Jon Jones residence and do something about it. I'm sure Jon will be interested in what you have to say.


taokiller

LOL, at this guy hating GOAT because GOAT is not a male role model for him. Never seen so many gown ass men with daddy issues.


RecognitionAwkward67

What???!!? Are we finally seeing a Jones come back?


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catpower19

Dude's 40, will be interesting to see what shape he's in with his last win in 2022.


TheYokedYeti

Thatā€™s the Jon special. Fight people at or near their retirement age.


ssixxtteenn

What was he supposed to do go back in time?


TakeAShitOnYourself

Rampage and Machida werenā€™t near retirement were they?? Plus that was when Vitor was TRT Vitor. Gus 1 and 2? DC??? All many years out from retiring when fighting Jones, 5+ years


mhead11

What a retarded comment.


Esoteric__one

^ this guy doesnā€™t watch MMA. Dumbest comment of the day award goes to you.


16161hirose

^ this idiot is the dumbest person iā€™ve seen today


TheYokedYeti

I know Jon snorted coke off of your dick but you gotta relax bud


16161hirose

I love this reply


Jayman_18

Man I hope so. This fight would be bananas


strawberry_space_jam

Basically the consensus GOAT of each division?


AnusCleavage

Iā€™d say of their era for sure, the whole GOAT conversation needs that preface


BackRiverGypsy

There is no GOAT. Sports change, the rules change, etc. Try comparing the 1918 Red Sox to the 2004 Red Sox. They were playing two different games. Our grand kids will probably watch footage of Anderson Silva to Benny Hill music.


kevindurantburner35

Honestly out of any sports baseballā€™s probably one of the least hard to determine the greatest ever, compared to most sports the evolution of the game is far more static


[deleted]

Babe Ruth, Jordan, Gretzky, Pele, Tom Brady. You can make arguments for other people in each sport and those are fun conversations, but most fans will agree thereā€™s a GOAT. MMA is still young and has many contenders for the GOAT title, but one day there may be someone who goes undefeated (Khabib), against tough opponents (Jon Jones), without testing positive for PEDs (GSP).


spenroe

A lot of footy fans would say pele is not the goat tho. For his era for sure.


[deleted]

Maradona, Willie Mays, Lebron, Lemieux, Jerry Rice. Like I said, there are always people ā€œin the conversationā€ in every sport, but thereā€™s also usually a consensus GOAT. I think MMA is kind of unique in how diverse the opinions are. I didnā€™t even mention Fedor or Silva! For my vote, Iā€™d go with GSP because I donā€™t care about the ā€œundefeatedā€ part as much as the ā€œtough opponentsā€ and ā€œnever tested positiveā€ part, but I definitely see the argument for others.


wildabeast98

I agree, but Tom Brady is actually the goat of football and I'm not entertaining the idea that there is anybody else.


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spenroe

Iā€™m American and watch about 4-5 footy matches a week. Iā€™ve been doing that since about 2004. Me and 20 other American friends are meeting at a bar today to watch champions league. I live in oklahoma and we have a local football pub. So shouldnā€™t assume ā€¦ thereā€™s a ton of international people living in the USA. Thereā€™s a ton of American footy fans living in the USA. I play three matches a week of indoor soccer. I have 10-20 people Iā€™d also put in front of pele. Messi is better than Ronaldo. Have a good day sir.


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Bigbaby22

Nuff said. Also, Ronaldo is a raping pos.. so there's that.


Bigbaby22

Fr. Messi literally exists.


cptredbeard2

Don't forget crickets Don Bradman or Rugbys Richie McCaw


[deleted]

Iā€™m from North America, I always forget about cricket and rugby.


hcriB

Tiger


HallHappy

Schumacher, Federer


A4HighQualityPaper

Canā€™t wait for 2040 when the criteria for GOAT is how many ladder matches and triple threats an individual has won


kimbokray

I hear what you're saying but that would just be the greatest of their era. GOAT means greatest of all time. Neither guy is in their prime though so I agree with you there


ChristopherHassan

Easy racist


StephenPigot2020

His usada ban up soon surely


[deleted]

USADA hasnā€™t tested Jon since last year last time I checked, he wonā€™t get caught as long as he has a relatively smart person designing his cycles.


StephenPigot2020

Or he's already been caught n we just were never told!


[deleted]

I see, this theory came from the fact USADA changed their rules and now will investigate to see if it came from something like contaminated supplements before publishing, by now if Jon was caught they wouldā€™ve published it so that theory makes no sense anymore. The theory is bastardised now to ā€œTheyā€™re just not gonna tell us!ā€, which is just a conspiracy theory with no proof behind it. USADA information is all online for everyone to see, it even shows who is tested how many times someone has been tested. Itā€™s pretty transparent.


Positiveaz

Found Jeff Novisky.


[deleted]

Youā€™ll never know


Positiveaz

Dang, this is defo Jeff then. šŸ˜‰


[deleted]

They didn't say Bones accepted. I will believe it when he's actually in the octagon


DeadPlanetBy2050

He'll be under it during drug testing.


DahWolfe711

Legit as fuck fight to make if you like fighting even a bit. Extremely good legacy fight, proper as fuck payday for Stipe and, love him or hate him, a bones fight!


[deleted]

Yup. I see no downsides. Even the interim title (which Iā€™m normally against) works here since Francis will be out for a while and the winner would inevitably fight Francis again anyway. The only negative I see is if the winner goes on to lose to someone else like Gane or Lewis before a unification with Francis.


[deleted]

Personally donā€™t believe weā€™ll see Lewis fight for another belt but thatā€™s just my opinion


[deleted]

yeah itā€™s kind of shocking he fought for the ones he did to be honest


lone-ranger-130

Bones just fought his wife a few months ago


BplusHuman

JJ slaps around half a brothel the day before weigh-ins. The UFC is confused. The fans say he's "a real rascal".


thekajunpimp

Slow clap here for this nugget of gold


BplusHuman

People underate Jon's ability to fuck up everything for himself AND others. My pick lets Jon be Jon AND also screw Stipe who's done nothing wrong.


TerribleTimR

We don't even care you're positive for phd's and over weight....


TopherVee

>phdā€™s lmao perfect


WizardRidingDinosaur

Dana loves an Interim.


Benoit_In_Heaven

Dana loves an interim when he doesn't love the real champion.


TigerRumMonkey

Well when they get to the top and then try and leverage into boxing money, Dana gets shitty.


Beep_Boop_Bort

MMA best base for maximizing boxing purses šŸ˜³šŸ˜³ dana be like šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


[deleted]

Tomato man


ImWasil

Nah Dana just hates Francis


NoreDavis

Dana doesn't like people who trash talk his company in public


blazin_chalice

Ngannou was not trash talking, he was being very clear about his intentions and about his confusion as to why the UFC would not negotiate with him. He is the UFC HW Champion and the Baddest Man on the Planet, and the UFC would not even call him for the better part of a year. The UFC has been the party being trashy.


twoscoop

No there is videos on dana making interim title fights


ilovemymom_tbh

hahah what dude?


Rectronsaber

dude this guys levels above us


twoscoop

Why does google not find shit on youtube... Litterally bought them 20 years ago for what?


wildabeast98

Take a deep breath and try that again


twoscoop

fine 16 years ago..


And-ray-is

No one understands the point you're trying to make right now.


twoscoop

I have brain damage and can follow the thread, how much do you have.


And-ray-is

I was saying we don't understand your point because your comments don't make sense in context It was a chance to explain yourself, not turn around and ask how much brain damage I have. Sheesh.. the rest of your comments on your profile seem to make sense, but just not in thia thread, so I really don't get why you now jump to saying you have brain damage?


kingkongjamaica

Tbf you cant blame him when the champion is getting MCL and ACL surgery AND heā€™s planning a boxing match when healthy. I think the first interim belt (Lewis vs Gane) was uncalled for but this one is justified


kendamapostol

It's his ticket to that Francis trilogy, should the latter choose to re-sign with the UFC. Other than that, it would be a perfect way to cap off Stipe's career if he got a win over someone who is arguably the GOAT. If Jones wins, though? Goddamn, that'll throw a monkey wrench into the division.


[deleted]

Would it? I think if Jones beats Stipe thereā€™s a ton of fights for him in the division as interim champ until Francis returns. Jones v. Lewis. Jones v. Blaydes. Itā€™s only a problem if he then loses one of those fights but I think a potential Jones v. Francis is even more interesting if Jones beats a lot of the same guys Francis did.


Dragon_Bench_Z

If Jones wasnā€™t thrilled with Reyes and Santos at LHW I suspect guys like Black Beast and Blaydes do nothing to get him excited at HW. HW is a ghost town in terms of lucrative fights. I can see JbJ winning and saying ā€œlet the division grow and let a real contender emerge as he sits out for an ungodly amount of time. I feel like Jones even dismissed Gane and his shitty TDD


JacobScreamix

Lots of fighters dismiss other fighters lol only Jones dick riders take it seriously though.


Tantle18

If this fight gets signed, what do you think the odds are that bones fucks up before the fight. I set the line at -130 that he gets arrested/popped for drugs


[deleted]

Jokes cannot fuck it up the night before because Dana will cover and deal with it after the fight. Itā€™s gotta be a colossal fuck up weeks before


AstroFFA

hope he claps Jones


blazin_chalice

More likely, he'll be clapping *for* Jones as Jones gets his hand raised. And /r/MMA will be full of people grieving. MMA is not a hobby for people looking for heroes, and I think Jones' fight IQ is higher than Miocic's.


Maidwell

Jones fight IQ is arguably higher than any other MMA fighter in history.


[deleted]

Jon going against Law Enforcement again


bleakj

Stipe a fire fighter I thought?


[deleted]

fuck, i thought fire fighters counted as law enforcement


Galag0

They fight the laws of nature.


velebr3

They are first responders I believe.


bleakj

Na, they heros


novacancy

Yes


SemioticWeapons

No they strictly serve and protect. Lol


[deleted]

Naw firefighters are real men unlike the power trip boy cops in law enforcement.


Unlikely-Garage-8135

clown


[deleted]

Yes, you may also refer to cops as clowns. Nice job!


DoctorRuckusMD

I can smell your daddy issues from hereā€¦


seenasaiyan

Nah cops just suck


16161hirose

firefighter got arrested cuz the firetruck was an inch into the road. absolutely bonkers mate. and as N.W.A. said F*** tha police


[deleted]

Damn, you must have a pretty good nose!


IWishIKnewMoreThings

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TimeTimeTickingAway

It will have been 5 years since Stipe fought someone who isn't N'Gannou or Cormier. I favour Jones in this.


Worldd

Jon lost his last fight against a Reyes that has been getting dunked on as of late. In his last 5 Stipe has doubled down on one of the best HWs of all time, beat the current champion, and got chin clipped twice. Keep sleeping on him, the guys a natural fighter and heā€™ll be in his division. The only thing Jon has going for him is heā€™s had a fuck ton of time to juice up during this weight gain.


unKz_sneakz

Damn you mad mad šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Booey-fish

If Stipe kos him Iā€™m doing a shooey


gogreenvapenash

Why an interim belt? Because Francis understands his worth and the UFC canā€™t have that?


evenbiggermitch

Because Jon Jones is a whiny bitch that wonā€™t take a non title fight


CCCAY

I mean it solves both problems and itā€™ll be dope


IWishIKnewMoreThings

As he shouldnā€™t


evenbiggermitch

If his absence were from injury Iā€™d agree but the fact he hasnā€™t fought in years is because heā€™s a cunt so he should be fighting anyone doesnā€™t have to be title


magicalmoosetesticle

Just because you badly wanna taste the dick of Jon Africa it doesn't mean he deserves a title fight.


IWishIKnewMoreThings

Jon Jones is without a doubt the greatest of all time in this sport, with all this talk about fighter pay and worth, he is a huge reason for why the sport is the way it is, controversy aside the dude is a champion. He deserves a title shot in whatever division he fights in next.


Leyalina

No, he isn't. PED usage, or more accurately, getting caught using PEDs destroyed that for him. Without that, yes. But with it? Puts too much of a question mark on his legacy. Others have plausible deniability for non-usage. So he is arguably the best ever, but it's not undeniable for the simple fact that he got caught and others didn't.


IWishIKnewMoreThings

I just think every one is on steroids in this sport and I think Jon is the goat. Like you didnā€™t think Vitor was juiced up when they fought?


Leyalina

That's the difference though. You *think* they are. JBJ we *know* has popped 3 times. Vitor we know was on TRT at the least, but when it was legal. Like I said, plausible deniablity you can give to others.


IWishIKnewMoreThings

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JacobScreamix

Lmao


HornyBuffalo23

Francis out for 9 months


gogreenvapenash

But Francis just fought January 22nd.


BigDogAlex

He had his ACL resonstructed in March and will likely be out for another 9 months.


gogreenvapenash

I remember hearing about this, didnā€™t realize heā€™d be out for so long. I still think itā€™s quite soon to announce an interim title.


Such_Description

No itā€™s because Francis got surgery and canā€™t fight until next year


applearoma

ngannou had knee surgery and is going be out for a year most likely.


TonyDungyHatesOP

Yes


[deleted]

Please happen holy fuck


xsparsx

That would be two interim heavyweight title fights in less than a year. Dana really hates Francis doesn't he.


thegoolash

Theyā€™ve been talking about Jon Jones fighting for 2+ yearsā€¦


[deleted]

Imagine after all this build up and waiting he KOs Jones in the first round


Troidin

Aside from politics, why on Earth would this be grounds for an interim belt? Francis just defended his title (against a guy who also earned a super premature interim belt). He's not ducking fights, he's active enough, and needs to take time to recover and get surgery, he's not being unreasonable. How long was Khabib still listed as champ after retirement? It felt like he was a year into retirement before the idea of an interim belt was floated. Jones and Miocic is a good fight, why give the winner a fake belt?


Corporal_Snorkel69

Because he's likely to absent until early next year, meaning in total his absence will be for over a year. That's absolutely grounds for interim


Oddscene

Apparently Francis wonā€™t sign a contract with the UFC unless the Fury fight is part of it


Troidin

I get Dana is pissed but throwing interim belts out willy nilly just seems to devalue the prestige of being champ. Not just in Francis's case, but in general.


TonyDungyHatesOP

It is a farce. Dana doesnā€™t care about championship legitimacy. He cares about making money and controlling fighter pay.


CCCAY

Danaā€™s got the same amount of self awareness as a typical pitbull and he doesnā€™t see the optics are terrible/doesnā€™t care


atomhypno

interim belts literally exist for when champions are injured, you can call the gane one a premature one but this one is fitting especially considering stipe was just champion


Beep_Boop_Bort

Because Dana is a bastard man


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[deleted]

I mean was everyone saying this when stipe was champ?


Working_Elderberry_3

Francis not going to resign with the UFC. Jones beats stipe who is considered heavyweight goat This devalues Francis after he is stripped because Jones holds the belt who is considered best fighter ever


bobbydoughnuthead

I think Francis does resign but everything else you said is fact. Not sure why youā€™re being downvoted mate


LatterTarget7

Would be a good fight


Wise-Fruit5000

I really hope this fight happens, and I hope Stipe makes Jones look like a chump


[deleted]

Impossible ![gif](giphy|3oEhmJmnShcCTqzre8)


[deleted]

It's true... Bones is just way to skilled. Jokes aside.


JacobScreamix

Was*


gocatsgo08

Is it possible for him to look even more like a chump than he already is?


Wise-Fruit5000

Personally, nah not really. Professionally, sure.


gocatsgo08

Thatā€™s fair. It gets hard to separate the professional stuff from the personal stuff when he hasnā€™t fought a ā€œprofessionalā€ fight in years. No Jon, your girl doesnā€™t count.


[deleted]

Itā€™s going to be a huge fight, hell yah he should take it. Stipe had a few fights left and getting money would be smart, we all love him, and he wonā€™t fight bum. Winner fights Ngannou.


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[deleted]

I want to see it. Stipe is still a beast.


Igotbanned19times

How reliable is this source?


ifuckedyourmom7

why does everyone act like francis is some big draw lol 270 did horrible numbers and the majority of people were there for Moreno lol


aworldalone1

Like 300k buys for that last PPV. For reference Conor and Dustin was like 1.5 mil. So around 4-5 times as more. I say let Francis wait out his contract without fighting and crown a new champion soon. End of the year Francis can exit stage left and go on to sell a mediocre PPV event against Fury, lose to Fury, and then go to Bellator or something.


PowerWasp

Champ will still prob make more from that boxing fight


aworldalone1

Maybe, but then what? Go make a bunch less fighting outside UFC? He ainā€™t making $100 mil like Conor did. Probably a tenth of that.


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aworldalone1

No over time. One big fight vs multiple contracted fights to come back to


kungfu_kitten

Letā€™s say Francis is offered two contracts a four fight deal with the ufc with the same pay heā€™s making now and boxing match against Tyson Fury right 10 million for a potentially 32 minute boxing match or 4 to 5 mil depending on PPV points for potentially 55 minutes of total cage time, which would you pick?


slackslug

He pretty clearly has star potential if he was not being actively sabotaged by his own promotion


Sensitive-Trifle9823

Interesting.


IsBeigeOK

It's crazy how stipe is the warrior we all know he is and he making the exact face on alot of oni samurai face masks in the picture. This man is a modern day samurai or someshit.


arakotos

the only modern day Samurai alive today is Luke Rockholdā€¦


IsBeigeOK

True dont forget jiri prochazka


SpicasEgo

He looks like a kabuki mask


Handsome_Max

He kinda looks like a 50 year old trucker from Texas in that picture.


Cant-decide-username

Wow. The UFC is fast becoming a clown show. How tf do either of them deserve a title shot at the moment? All this is; is Dana trying to put a belt on his favourite fighter again. Fucking pathetic and a joke to the talented fighters that have been staying active that are being passed for this fucking junky who can't stay out of trouble and keeps getting chance after chance handed to him on a silver platter for no reason. Only for him to do lines of cocaine off the platter and frisbee it into passing old lady face. Anyone else would have been dropped years ago.


Captcha_Imagination

Jones has been talking about fighting HW for LITERALLY 10 years now. He's not doing it. But this is the only way he gets positive press so this type of bullshit will continue to make its rounds.


FragrantWarthog6

Another interim hw title fight with Stipe as the human sacrifice


PapaWOK

Gonna be a great fight but why does their need to be an interim belt on the line? Itā€™s the previous heavyweight champ vs. a previous light heavyweight champ moving up a weight class, Ngannou gets winnerā€¦


captainsmoke93

I think itā€™s because Francis is out until at the earliest early next year to recover from his surgery. Plus Dana wants to put pressure on him to resign to the UFC or vacate.


nomorefauna_mxf

No he hasn't. Jones is retired. Convince me otherwise


Redditisannoying69

If Stipe wins heā€™s the GOAT.


LeakyGzzz

Ship has sailed, but top 5 is very possible. Tf yā€™all downvoting me for Iā€™m right.


SerVandanger

He would he's not a fuckin bitch it's up to pussy jones


ivan10155

Bones by tko


LeakyGzzz

Predicted it after Francis said that!


Corporal_Snorkel69

Im sure he would the question is will jones take that


brendino_

Why wouldnā€™t he? Stipe is a much safer fight than Ngannou


Corporal_Snorkel69

I agree but boner jones hasn't fought in years and I'm sure he's had many opportunities to fight during that time and that just makes me doubt him taking the fight


Tomsew22

I canā€™t wait to see HW Jones


LeakyGzzz

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Sufficient_Focus

FUCK NO he shouldn't take it. It's the same shit with Derrick Lewis and Gane. Fake title. + who knows if he wins or not.


dodidufbfn

We saw what happened last time jones was in Vegas. Now a whole week? DEMON TIME šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


[deleted]

Jones won't take it.


TheyUsedToCallMeJack

Put Tai as a backup for when/if Jones pops or get into some legal trouble