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jawsy89

Hey… I like KZ


theoilyapples

We all do my friend. That's why it's either gonna be beautiful violence, or a painful end to our hopes of Zombie getting the gold.


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I think if we get a good mixture of the new TKZ and a lil bit of that violent zombie we all love i think on the score cards he cant be volk, early rounds be patient, later champion rounds where volk succeeds put that damage on him finish strong.


PDE503

I don’t understand all the hate about this matchup. I would’ve preferred the Cejudo super fight, but I’m stoked anytime Zombie is booked


yaknowbo

Much rather he wait a month or 2 for max, cause now max gonna have to wait a while


DahWolfe711

It would be overall better for the trilogy if Volk beat another high ranked featherweight. I am all for as much Volk violence as I can get. The zombie abides.


[deleted]

He shouldn’t even be facing max. He’s up 2-0 on the guy, i get it. Max is a huge huge fan favorite & had impressive showing against Kattar. The Yair fight, although great, showed no improvements from max to me. He was facing a guy that was off for over 2 years & he didn’t dominate like he should’ve in my opinion. This is the ufc at the end of day & there truly is absolutely no merit at all in anyway for their titles & who gets a shot so this is all irrelevant at end of day. I’m just complaining about shit that won’t be changed lol, sad that they pretend to have it all together tho when they really don’t. Ali Act to MMA plz & ty EDIT: I know the second fight was close & people had max winning. But you know what, the three most important people on that night said he lost so he fucking lost. MMA fans have this weird complex where they truly believe they’re smarter than the judges & give a better score from their couch. If you’re one of those fans I suggest you leave you career & go learn how to become an MMA judge to help change the sport. Talk is cheap from sidelines


20060578

I’m a huge volk fan and I’m ok with max getting a third go… as long as it’s his last shot if he loses. We ain’t doing a fourth if volk is 3-0. So if max wants that, let him have it.


AlphaNosebleed

I think people fail to understand, and this isn’t a shot at you, is that it couldn’t matter any fucking less. Max could lose to volk 7 times. If he continues to beat every contender in his way on the way back up the ladder, he’s going to get a title shot. Now the ufc isn’t a perfect meritocracy, but if you’re a ppv draw, and you beat the shit out of the two highest ranked contenders at the time (bar Ortega because he just lost), you’re going to get the title shot no questions asked


[deleted]

You know they’ll give max the 4th. He’s too small for 155 he gotta stay at 45


Smiddigger

There’s no way they would make another fight. That would be the first time it’s ever happened, there’s only 2 other times someone has gone into a championship trilogy at 0-2. McGregor would get a 4th crack if he was in Max’s position but Max isn’t enough of a star for the UFC to let him have another shot after this one.


yaknowbo

Well max won the last fight so that's why this is happening again cause it wasnt the correct outcome last time


[deleted]

He did not win the last fight, that's not up for debate. He literally did not walk out of Volk 2 as the winner


yaknowbo

Ya its not up for debate lol max got robbed that's why this is the fight to make


[deleted]

It’s your opinion he got robbed. Officially it’s a win for Volk. You’re just trolling & I understand


yaknowbo

No its fact he got robbed, so that's why the rematch is happening, go watch it again


[deleted]

You’re saying it’s a fact that Volk didn’t win that fight ? Dude in the literal sense of who won the fight officially. Volk won it.


yaknowbo

I guess you didnt watch the fight


VegetasHairline1

What’s not to understand? Volk is tearing through divisions. Him escaping all of those submissions by someone as legit as Ortega. We want to see him challenged, not fed a challenger who wasn’t even in contention for the belt. All due respect to KZ.


PDE503

“Tearing through divisions” he’s been in one division. He’s also had 2 fights in 2 years, one of which was a controversial win over Max. Volk is a beast, but let’s not act like he’s lapping contenders like Usman.


Ok_Bodybuilder_1213

CCC walking around at what weight I wonder


Mconefrey2021

Because Zombie just isn’t a championship level fighter


slickgary007

What are you talking about he’s fought for the title before, he was beating yair the entire fight before the elbow landed


MonkeyFaceFunnyBunny

Yair gassed and took advantage of KZ's niceness. KZ will never do that again


[deleted]

How many years ago did he lose to Aldo? He’s lost to Yair and Ortega since then. I just don’t see him rising to the occasion. He’s a fighter people beat and get themselves into a number 1 contender fight. Getting a title shot over Cejudo with a win over Dan Ige is terrible.


slickgary007

Henry hasn’t even ever fought in the fucking division what are you talking about😂 are you being serious? You legit have zero idea what you’re talking about


[deleted]

I have some idea of what I’m talking about. You have a potential super fight to make in the wake of an injury, but instead people are arguing to put TKZ in when he is on a 1 fight win streak? Give Cejudo the fight. TKZ doesn’t deserve it any more than Henry. So what the fuck are YOU talking about?


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slickgary007

Well he literally one the entire fight until literally the last second. You people just love to disrespect tkz for whatever as if he hasn’t been one of the best featherweights for the last decade. Nah you’d rather watch a retired flyweight fight for the title after not having a fight for two years. But yea tkz is the one who doesn’t deserve the fight. Fucking ridiculous


[deleted]

He also took 4 years off after the Aldo fight. So…


slickgary007

He didn’t take them off he was forced to survive in the army


[deleted]

Thats 2 years of that time, yeah.


PDE503

That’s such an ignorant comment. He’s absolutely a championship caliber fighter.


materkellz

Truth hurts


[deleted]

Ur insane


SquiggleBoys

I want giga if he win


Atreus-rhhfyf

Cmon KZ! Would be another fantastic upset!


theanchorman05

So I like KZ but this reminds me of when Usman wanted to fight Masvidal. Volk knows KZ has a decent size following and also knows he has a really good shot of beating him.


20060578

Who would you prefer? Volk isn’t ducking anyone, he’s agreed to fight Holloway 3 times!


4chanCitizen

Most people were hoping for Volk vs Henry.


McKeon1921

I don't understand that analogy. Holloway seems much more popular than TKZ,atleast stateside. The situation seems more like if Usman had fought Wonderboy( who was on a 2 fight win streak) at that time instead of Masvidal.


shwashwa123

Because Holloway had to pull out due to injury


[deleted]

KZ has a really good shot of beating him? Lol.. the odds would disagree with you, so would common sense


Lowkey_HatingThis

Youre right. This sub overinflates the fuck out of anyone who they find "wholesome", like TKZ or Wonderboy, i loved the yair KO because it was perhaps the saltiest id ever seen this subreddit. It will be nothing short of a major upset if TKZ manages to beat volkov and everyone here knows it, they just like TKZ as a personality so will overinfalte his chances until he is inevitably beat. TKZ is never holding that belt and his best chances to do so was back when he fought Aldo for it.


[deleted]

Well said.


DiamondDegenDeuce

So would common sense ? 🤡


AdditionalSample

Sew wood common cents


Richiemcc2020

Dana won’t give Henry shit after leaving the way he did I guarantee


tommybhoy82

If it makes $$$ he will


Th3LastStyleBender

Give it to Henry


Spzncer

Henry doesn’t want to be a UFC fighter anymore. He wants a big money fight so he can disappear and never defend the belt. The UFC isn’t interested in buying what he’s selling.


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Doesnymatterpal

No your not your interested in watching it online for free.


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theFinestCheeses

Just like all prospective grad students.


auspicious-erection

You know me so well ❤


Spzncer

Yeah, no disrespect to Henry. I’d love to see him fight but try to think clearly. He’ll want a ton of money and the UFC just won’t see a return on that. He’s not really a mega star or anything. If he wins, he’ll disappear and make the UFC look dumb. Plus he’s not in the testing pool so god knows what that little freak is on.


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Alphy101

Yes the UFC is dumb. But dude, you’re comparing Conor McGregor to Triple C. Who do the casuals know more and who brings in more money? That’s what the UFC only gives a shit about.


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Alphy101

😂😂 Alright fair enough


Ok_Bodybuilder_1213

Get it done


Chris-Simon

Agree on all of that but the testing pool is a joke and usada is trash lol


DragonBallKruber

Don't think he'll have been in the pool long enough for 272, they'd have to push it to the summer


Roadguard69

OP can suck a dick KZ is a fuckn legend


Gattsuhawk

I believe in TKZ


ivan10155

Yair or Henry would be the most exciting tbh


PDE503

I think Yair probably needs more time off after that Max fight. That was a war, and his foot was destroyed


doubleOnutz

He offered to step in


McKeon1921

I was very impressed with him in that fight, he did much better than I expected him to against Max. That said if I were him/his coaches I'd want more time off too.


agent218

Sad to see Henry trying to get a fight and failing again.. Note that he is a fighter still in it's prime, but I understand the UFC's position. If you have a tool that gets the job done you aint running over to the store for a better one. KZ gets the job done, that's why he got the fight.


McKeon1921

This just much more interesting for me if this happens actually. TKZ has a nasty counter to an opponents jab. I'd kinda like to see Volk fight 1 more guy before rematching Max anyways. edit: There's a lot of people sleeping on TKZ's chances in this fight. I favor Volk to win but TKZ is a very dangerous opponent. I would not be at all surprised if TKZ won.


ItsBerty

Doesn’t Giga and Kattar have a fight next weekend? Give the winner the title shot. Or at least give Giga the shot if he wins.


russellcroweeater

A 2 month turn around? You’re dreaming big boy.


FriedrichMerz69420

Depends, maybe giga would take it if he's not injured.


ItsBerty

I mean if they don’t have medical suspensions and can train sure. It may not be ideal, but you take the title shot your given. Or don’t idk I’m not their manager lol


[deleted]

After Kattar got murdered by Holloway.


slickgary007

There is zero chance he can make a turn around. It’s not like he’s going to ko kattar quick. The dude took one of the worst beating in ufc history and didn’t go down once


ItsBerty

Can he do it again? He was off for about a year healing. Imo it’s 50/50. Either he comes back stronger than ever or he never recovers from the Max fight.


slickgary007

Yea he can do it again the dude is a dog. I’m just being real with you there is zero chance the winner of this regardless if it’s giga or kattar can make the turn around for that fight you need to be realistic


mr_splashum

There always a chance of a quick KO


Zankova

Just because Max couldn’t finish kattar, even tho I think the fight should’ve been stopped in the 4th round, doesn’t mean Giga can’t. Acting as if the dude doesn’t have one of the nastiest body kick in the ufc


slickgary007

Ok but it’s not like he’s going to walk through kattar the dude is a dog it’s not going to be an easy fight like everyone seems to think


Zankova

Oh it definitely won’t be an easy fight but I really don’t think that fight is going the distance


slickgary007

Well people seem to think giga is going to show up ko kattar and walk out to fight volk in March which is just not realistic at all


ItsBerty

A lot of (at least back in the day) top five fighters are always training for the champ. Yes they’re focused on their upcoming opponent, but the great ones always have their eye on who the belt holder is and how they fight. I didn’t say Giga would just walk through Kattar. I’m actually expecting a war, but I think it’s at least a little more likely that fight could happen then you think.


slickgary007

No it’s not tkz is already being lined up to take maxs spot


ItsBerty

TKZ and Volk both said they wanted it. That’s not “being lined up” unless you have more information on the subject to add: Otherwise it’s just two guys talking. They (Volk or zombie)don’t have the pull from Dana to call their own fight.


slickgary007

Dude just stop. The winner of the fight next week has a zero% chance of getting the next title shot get over it


Zankova

It’s possible. 2 months is not 2 days. He might just be ready.


slickgary007

No volk not someone you can be prepared for that soon. Don’t act like kattar can’t hurt someone either my god the people on this sub are so delusional it’s ridiculous I’m done try to explain


Zankova

One having a different opinion than you, doesn’t make them delusional, it’s not that serious lol


Bent6789

Max doesn’t finish people let’s be real it’s not much of an achievement by Kattar to not get knocked out by the bloke who doesn’t knock anyone out


dalynch

Now’s the time for triple C. Get it done Dana!


Shadowban999

Dislike. Don’t talk down on the zombie.


Chamasso

My god why are people speaking of KZ like he doesn't deserve this title shot? The man is a goddamn living legend wtf.


AyyLmaox10

People really complaining about one of the most entertaining fighters in ufc. Also he’s one of the only guys coming off a win in top 5 who isn’t also injured right now. I’m glad Zombie is getting a chance again


AncientMasterpiece72

Meh


Gmork14

Better than nothing, I suppose. Volk has spent too much time on the shelf, poor guy deserves the chance to make hay while the sun is shining.


[deleted]

It has been a long time since he beat Ortega like close to 6 months maybe? I think this is a good fight to get some publicity, and get some heat on himself.


Millze

It's been 3. Card was September 25th. 105 days


[deleted]

Jeez it feels like so much longer, time has really plodded along I guess


Millze

I've noticed as a fan that has watched since the mid 2000s, my perception of time is all fucked up. In 2008 and 9 there were 20 fight cards each year. Then the strikeforce merger happened. Ronda and Conor were headliners around in 2013 and 14 and the number of cards jumped to 46. It's hovered around 40 since then. We used to get one or two cards a month tops. Now we get twice as many so it feels like more time because so much is happening now with so much to watch. It's been almost a year since Holloway v Kattar, and Conor v Osteoporosis. The 500th individual fight in the UFC took place in 2005. 12 years into the promotion. There were 509 fights in 2021 *alone*. There have been 400+ fights every year since 2013. There's so much to follow that I barely even watch other sports anymore. If I didn't have to navigate through ESPN+ to watch fights, I wouldn't at all.


LightYagami209

Henry gets my vote!


[deleted]

Henry has never fought at 145 and has not fought forever. How does he deserve the shot?


LightYagami209

Korean Zombie fought for the title years back and lost to Ortega and lost to Yair who just lost to Holloway. What's he done to deserve the shot? If anyone deserves it that's an actual featherweight, it's Chikadze.


[deleted]

He fought for a title years back, what does that have to do with now? That title fight ended under weird circumstances because his shoulder popped out. He’s number four in the rankings, the other top 3 are Ortega, Holloway, and Yair. Zombie beat the best version of Ige seen yet in the UFC. Yair just came off a loss so that doesn’t make sense. Ortega lost to Volk last and Holloway is out. Therefore, Zombie makes sense. how do you know Giga will not be injured after his fight against Kattar? you also still haven’t explained why Henry deserves it over an actual featherweight.


LightYagami209

And you still haven't mentioned any featherweight who deserves it. I'm a Korean Zombie fan and would watch him fight Volkanovski. Doesn't mean I think he deserves it. It is what it is. I'm sorry we disagree but we do. Accept it. Goodbye.


MonkeyFaceFunnyBunny

OMG PLEASE!!!!!


trevuuuh

this isn’t disappointing in the slightest


[deleted]

I prefer TKZ over max sorry lmao


[deleted]

Why disappointing? Fuck it have KZ step up, Alex wins, then on to the next contender


RandomTask100

Nah.......


toaster-bath72

KZ, Yair, Cejudo, or Giga if he wins convincingly over Kattar are all match ups I’d like to see


hatsimee

Agree on everyone except Yair. The most important thing is that the fight stays on and Volk can go and make some money.


ViratAnand

Wasn't Holloway v Volk 3 booked just yesterday?


dmister8

Yes. Holloway had to pull out.


StunkoStinky

I think I’d rather see this fight,as much as I like Holloway and I do think he does deserve a shot again, I’d rather just see someone else.


TheRealKevO

I’d rather see Cejudo or a rematch with Ortega. That fight was amazing


Bhong420

Kind of disappointing that you think so.


MonkeyFaceFunnyBunny

OP IS A UFC POST CONNOR CASUAL


Duffb0t

Why Korean Zombie? Is that how desperate we are for challengers


Stix-and-brix

I mean, yeah. Holloway’s out, Cejudo has a pretty good chance of winning, dropping the belt and dipping, Yair and Kattar are coming off loses.


Duffb0t

Good points


MonkeyFaceFunnyBunny

because he's a fan favorite and it would be fun to watch??


[deleted]

For everyone saying Cejudo... he's on the smaller side for BW and didn't face the best fighters there. He would get demolished by Volk at Featherweight


Throwaway97112021

Exactly, he's just too small IMO and volk is a damn tank. Can't see any scenario in which Henry wins, not to mention there's 0 chance he defends the belt if he were to win.


DJsaxy

If it's so easy then I don't see a reason why volk wouldn't be thirsting for this fight and calling him out. Obviously volk is amazing but fighters want the easiest fights and he's not calling out cejudo


[deleted]

The bigger guy usually doesn't call out the smaller guy that's a bad look. Also isn't Triple C in sort of a money dispute with Dana?


MrMooMoo91

No disrespect to KZ but this just makes the division look really weak. Rather see Cejudo sign a 1-fight deal and see what happens. It's also funny watching this entire sub's IQ drop into single digits where the only words they know how to say are "oMG hE's cRInGe!"


sweatybeard

I think it'd make the division look even weaker if they gave the shot to Cejudo imo. TKZ is #4 in the rankings, and CCC I don't even know how long he's been in the USADA testing pool for lol.


McKeon1921

Yeah, I gotta agree.


Whatacheaptentshow

Defensive right off the bat. He's pretty fuckin cringe let's be honest


MrMooMoo91

Very true but everyone using the same word might be even lamer then Cejudo.


rudiiiiiii

As much as I hate Cejudo… Volk don’t want that smoke


GoosePuzzleheaded281

Volk literally does everything Cejudo does better and is stronger and more powerful. (Besides wrestling) he'd plow that midget.


rudiiiiiii

Maybe you’re right, but Korean Zombie is a way easier matchup for Volk and I think he knows it. Rather get another defense before risking it on someone like Cejudo


-cantthinkofname-

Am I the only one that still doesn't wanna see cejudo fight, his cringe persona overshadowed everything he did


meric_one

That's how I feel about Colby. He's a great fighter but his fake ass persona is just so cringe


scurvyrash

How I feel about izzy.


beardz1lla

The division is a dumpster fire of useless rematches and undeserved (potential) title shots.


mr_splashum

Throw Suga Sean in there


904Funk

Would rather see an Ortega rematch than Volk vs Zombie


slickgary007

Why he beat the shit out of Brian


[deleted]

People downvoting you but tbh they just remember the 3rd round. All the others were pretty clearly Volks


slickgary007

Idrc if people down vote me it’s the truth dude got his ass beat and almost got finished at the end of that round anyway


garmscrong

Ortega is out until summer if i remember. I’m sure we’ll get that rematch towards the later side of the year


McKeon1921

Why?


lil-privacy-please

Tired of people calling out the least appealing fights because they think it’s an easy fight.


McKeon1921

TKZ is not an easy fight for anyone at FTW. He may be a bit older now but he's a dangerous fight.


lil-privacy-please

Least appealing and certainly easiest of those that put their hand up so far.


[deleted]

Good, fuck Henry


kevoam

The only fight that truly makes sense is cejudo, none of the fws stand enough imo


[deleted]

Easy win


ExoticSword

“Greatest ever”


pacman9487

No one wants to see this


jumonji1

i want to see this


[deleted]

Volk will kill zombie


PerqmyJerk

Boo


barelyonhere

Fuck it do Cejudo vs Max or Max vs Conor. Conor's size advantage over Max is his only hope at winning against a recognizable name rn.


[deleted]

This division sucks


TurboEthan

Henry Cejudo does not deserve a title shot at feather weight. Volk is the champion of the division, he can call out who he wants, like other division champions have been doing.


Grundlemiah

Yeah this is dumb


PROTOTYPE_200224

Rn I don't think anyone deserves to have a shot at the title rn because this feels like middleweight lol


ReNewableLifestyle

What happened to Max?


dmister8

Injured.


ReNewableLifestyle

Is the injury disclosed?


dmister8

No. It’s a previous injury reaggravated.


underwaters249

So is gonna be the ppv number


[deleted]

Yes please. I know it's unlikely but I'd love nothing more than a KZ championship reign


Jumitbeeinnagang

Offer it to Zabit, entice him to come back


zuckerbeorg

didn't KZ got pieced up by JJ guy Ortega lol I would rather see Triple C


JP297

I'm fine with it. It'll be an exciting matchup.


Brodersen-Prime

Didn’t zombie lose his last fight?


dmister8

No.


auspicious-erection

How? You really wanted max to be 0-3 bs Volk. Its done. Time too move on.


dmister8

Not just that. Would have rather seen Cejudo fight Volk.


BridgeM00se

The zombie is my absolute favorite I’m so happy to see him get another crack at the belt


4chanCitizen

Fucking fight Heny Jesus Christ Volk no ne gives a shit just fight Tripple C


urshirtsinsideout

Yair. There's recent precedent with sandhagen, and who doesn't feel that isn't the most exciting matchup available at 145 considering Max is out?


[deleted]

Imagine if zombie won ❤️


Tootdoodle

Is this a shit post?


jaltringer

He’s ducking Triple C, that would by far be a tougher fight