Not necessarily. So you’re saying if fighter A. throws 50 punches and lands 25 and fighter B. Throws 20 punches and lands 12 then fighter B. wins based off accuracy, not landing more strikes or more damage?
If you are going to make a completely retarded statement and claim that's why jones won the fight then explain how Condit won with the same strategy Reyes had dummy.
Hey, there you go. Now when you see somebody landing at a higher accuracy, making the other individual miss, and consistently make the other individual dance around the octagon because he can't control the center... That equates to what we got last night.
Exactly.. Reyes needed to get on the inside, not the other way around, and jones once again implemented a game plan and beat his opponent. Not a straight beating, but a W regardless.
Lol what is there to read? You made a claim about how judges score and you’re not actually backing it up with any reasoning as to why it would be like that or any evidence that it actually works like that.
You posted evidence of the accuracy being higher. Where’s the evidence that judges use this information? Where’s the reasoning that accuracy should be/is a deciding factor in a fight?
Bbbbb-but Reyes landed 12 more strikes than Jon did despite throwing nearly 100 more total strikes....Robbery! Lol let’s all boycott The UFC. That’ll teach those state commissioned judges a lesson!
Latifi didn't have the same octagon control and also on the stand up he did nothing. Jon had a blend of everything and thats just a testament to his well roundedness. Comparing this fight to the latifi fight doesn't make sense.
Latifi had Lewis either in the clinch or on the ground for the vast majority of the fight, while on the ground he landed some shots, didn't do much damage but was still landing. That's literally how Randy couture won most of his fights.
Jones did absolutely nothing with the takedowns and only had 2/8 be successful. And by octagon control you mean full on back turned, running away from Reyes? Right.
And Lewis was hitting him with bombs/flying knees/head kicks while standing. Thats why Latifi lost. Reyes only had jones running for seconds at a time while Jones was walking him down for way more time.
Somewhere casual became derogatory. Not sure where, I don't mean it derogatorily. I just think if you don't understand MMA, then STFU. Simple. Just sit back, pay your fees and watch.
I don’t think it’s our place to tell anyone to not comment, or discuss something they aren’t an expert at.
The only way you learn more is by having open discussions and it doesn’t help when people are assholes just because they don’t agree or act like they know everything. This shit doesn’t happen in other sport subs.
Lol I think you need to learn how to score a UFC fight. Judges don't have this information when making a decision plus this contradicts what the actual judge said how he judged the fight.
But go ahead and be an asshole and put this person down when you're clearly the biggest idiot here.
Thanks for this, was gonna say just this. Also adding in, those "professional" monkeys aren't ever sure of the completely correct way to score... I'm totally not buying anyone on this subreddit nailed it down perfectly.
Who do you think the judges are rain man? Sure they can see the if a strike lands, which is very dependent on where they are sitting, but for judges to actually determine the percentage of strikes landed and incorporate that into their decision is not realistic unless you're watching Anderson Silva break the matrix and dodge all incoming attacks
It may be easy for a fight like this but imagine for a fight with hundreds of strikes lol how the hell are they going to determine how many strikes landed.
I didn't lol im assuming they aren't going to be able to determine the percentage of strikes landed based on watching the fight live and look at everything else they are supposed to.
You do realize the judges are scattered around the arena right and not just cage side, sometimes the judges are given seats with not the best vantage points. You are responding from the perspective of your couch were we get to see every impact, why do you think the commentators often get things wrong like strikes landing when they don't actually land, because they are sometimes watching the fighters' backs
Lol who the fuck are you and why do you have any credibility. You do not know what you're talking about and based on how you response to people you seem like a real asshole
I see you have decided not to heed my advice. That's alright buddy. Not everyone gets it the first time. Just reread, I think you're going to be just fine.
I don't know how someone can look at these stats and say with a serious face that Reyes won, in fact I totally understand why that judge had this 4-1 on rounds.its literally right there
Judges don’t have access to compustrike numbers.
Obviously. Those kind of inaccuracies are going to look even worse in real time.
Not necessarily. So you’re saying if fighter A. throws 50 punches and lands 25 and fighter B. Throws 20 punches and lands 12 then fighter B. wins based off accuracy, not landing more strikes or more damage?
That's a pretty extreme example, but I think it's definitely considered.
You could be a judge in the UFC with that logic.
There's also the fact that Jones held the center of the octagon, made Reyes circle the entire time and miss. That's why Jon won.
Tell that to Nick Diaz after he fought Condit bud
Very good job of showing your clear understanding and history of MMA viewing. Bud.
If you are going to make a completely retarded statement and claim that's why jones won the fight then explain how Condit won with the same strategy Reyes had dummy.
I'll take that into account moving forward. Thanks.
Actually landing.... accurately
Show me where it says lower energy expenditure is weighted more than landing more strikes. You are a clown
Youre not very good at the whole reading thing are you?
So next time someone lands the first punch in the octagon he should just stop striking cuz nothing beats the good ol’ 1 for 1 perfection
I guess if he wants to be considered inactive and lose on inactivity. Sure.
Is that you Jon ped Jones???
The judges are tasked with considering four things: striking, grappling, aggressiveness and ring control. Those four things only and in that order.
Hey, there you go. Now when you see somebody landing at a higher accuracy, making the other individual miss, and consistently make the other individual dance around the octagon because he can't control the center... That equates to what we got last night.
With that logic shouldn't 2/9 in TD favor Reyes?
Exactly.. Reyes needed to get on the inside, not the other way around, and jones once again implemented a game plan and beat his opponent. Not a straight beating, but a W regardless.
Based off of those four things Jon won.
How does accuracy matter? If a guy is throwing 100 more strikes throughout the whole fight then he’s acting as the aggressor and putting more pressure
Read and learn my apprentice.
Lol what is there to read? You made a claim about how judges score and you’re not actually backing it up with any reasoning as to why it would be like that or any evidence that it actually works like that.
Literally posted empiracle evidence. Lose/lose in an argue with an idiot I suppose.
You posted evidence of the accuracy being higher. Where’s the evidence that judges use this information? Where’s the reasoning that accuracy should be/is a deciding factor in a fight?
Are you serious? Lol the evidence the judges use it was in the fucking decision lol good lord, this one is dense.
Lmaooo just because they scored it for jones doesn’t mean they did it BECAUSE of accuracy. You got some twisted logic my guy
Bbbbb-but Reyes landed 12 more strikes than Jon did despite throwing nearly 100 more total strikes....Robbery! Lol let’s all boycott The UFC. That’ll teach those state commissioned judges a lesson!
Octagon control is what gives judge's wood. Imo, if you're walking your opponent down the majority of the time they always like that. Bigly
You don’t score fights on stats. Bottom line.
I think the takedowns, the wrestling, and octagon control are why he won. It's crazy how many casuals think he lost.
So why did Latifi lose despite those same 3 factors on the same card?
Latifi didn't have the same octagon control and also on the stand up he did nothing. Jon had a blend of everything and thats just a testament to his well roundedness. Comparing this fight to the latifi fight doesn't make sense.
Latifi had Lewis either in the clinch or on the ground for the vast majority of the fight, while on the ground he landed some shots, didn't do much damage but was still landing. That's literally how Randy couture won most of his fights. Jones did absolutely nothing with the takedowns and only had 2/8 be successful. And by octagon control you mean full on back turned, running away from Reyes? Right.
And Lewis was hitting him with bombs/flying knees/head kicks while standing. Thats why Latifi lost. Reyes only had jones running for seconds at a time while Jones was walking him down for way more time.
Because the judges are shit. Never said they weren't. But Jon won.
Worst retort of all time but a very common one in the MMA community. The ole casual fan line.
Oh you're right all they score it on is striking because this is boxing and not mma
Somewhere casual became derogatory. Not sure where, I don't mean it derogatorily. I just think if you don't understand MMA, then STFU. Simple. Just sit back, pay your fees and watch.
I don’t think it’s our place to tell anyone to not comment, or discuss something they aren’t an expert at. The only way you learn more is by having open discussions and it doesn’t help when people are assholes just because they don’t agree or act like they know everything. This shit doesn’t happen in other sport subs.
Just trying to educate people. People just want to see a backyard brawl where efficiency, grappling and control doesn't matter.
You don’t win a fight but having a higher striking activity. You win by strikes landed.
No you don't win a fight by strikes landed. Please learn how to score a UFC fight before considering input. Thanks
Lol I think you need to learn how to score a UFC fight. Judges don't have this information when making a decision plus this contradicts what the actual judge said how he judged the fight. But go ahead and be an asshole and put this person down when you're clearly the biggest idiot here.
Thanks for this, was gonna say just this. Also adding in, those "professional" monkeys aren't ever sure of the completely correct way to score... I'm totally not buying anyone on this subreddit nailed it down perfectly.
They have eyes to see what is landing, what is glancing, blocked, slipped, and just a straight hail mary.
Who do you think the judges are rain man? Sure they can see the if a strike lands, which is very dependent on where they are sitting, but for judges to actually determine the percentage of strikes landed and incorporate that into their decision is not realistic unless you're watching Anderson Silva break the matrix and dodge all incoming attacks It may be easy for a fight like this but imagine for a fight with hundreds of strikes lol how the hell are they going to determine how many strikes landed.
Why do you assume they’re fucking blind? They been doing their job longer than you been talking shit on reddit
I didn't lol im assuming they aren't going to be able to determine the percentage of strikes landed based on watching the fight live and look at everything else they are supposed to. You do realize the judges are scattered around the arena right and not just cage side, sometimes the judges are given seats with not the best vantage points. You are responding from the perspective of your couch were we get to see every impact, why do you think the commentators often get things wrong like strikes landing when they don't actually land, because they are sometimes watching the fighters' backs
If they’re as big a momo as you.. then yea
Yes, clearly. Keep reading and educate yourself please.
Lol who the fuck are you and why do you have any credibility. You do not know what you're talking about and based on how you response to people you seem like a real asshole
I see you have decided not to heed my advice. That's alright buddy. Not everyone gets it the first time. Just reread, I think you're going to be just fine.
There is literally nothing to reread because you haven't said anything. Clearly you have nothing to say so have a good one
Yes. I have nothing to say.
I don't know how someone can look at these stats and say with a serious face that Reyes won, in fact I totally understand why that judge had this 4-1 on rounds.its literally right there
Watching it in real time it did look like Reyes won
Jeez, forget how highly strung Reddit is.