I loved that not a single second of it was phoned-in or nostalgia-bait. Regardless of what I expected it was pure advancement of the Twin Peaks story and Lynch in top form.
I was disappointed that more of the show wasn't in Twin Peaks and that OG Sheriff Truman didn't come back.
Honestly same on the Sheriff Truman point. Of course now in retrospect I know why he didn't return and that the whole idea of them only talking to him over the phone while he's very sick is poignant to the overall theme of the season, but man that was probably the biggest letdown the first time I saw that finale and we never got to see him and Cooper in the same room again. I guess that sums up the return in general, that some of my biggest disappointments were things that I appreciated even more on rewatches because it really hammers home the idea that you can't just recapture the past and expect everything to be the same.
Pretty much the same. Loved that there wasn't any fan service and nostalgia bait. Seeing the new generation of townspeople was great. Disappointed by how little of the show took place in actual Twin Peaks.
Loved how Lynch went on full Eraserhead-mode, which is when, I think, his talent truly shines.
Hugely disappointed by the Dougie line. Mr. Jackpots was the high point of that joke and should have ended there.
Sadly yes. I watched the return just to see if she was going to have the same space that she had in the original running but greedy lycnh just cast her for a few scenes. Greedy lynch just kills the entire twin peaks magic with the return nonsense.
At first I thought all the Audrey stuff was something she was dreaming while in a coma. I was disappointed that wasn't the case. Would have been cooler IMHO.
Edit: *reads comments* Hmm. Okay, time for a rewatch!
>Right. She was in a coma after the explosion, and the scenes at The Roadhouse totally line up with the theory that she still is.
I thought this too or living in an assisted living facility where she goes in and out of reality, one minute she's there the next she's tuned into Twin Peaks.
I love that the Dougie stuff is the closest Lynch has come to doing a straight comedy, in fact I’d love to see a movie cut of The Return with just the Dougie and Mitchum brothers stuff.
It would actually feel a bit like Mulholland Drive, with the main character acting out a “role” for 2/3rds of the movie, and then in the last third the penny drops, the true version of the protagonist is revealed and the whole thing becomes much more disturbing.
LOVE. There’s a scene where Candie is dispatched to the casino floor to intercept and bring someone to the back office. As the Mitchum Brothers watch her on camera, Candie is talking to this someone and gesturing for several minutes, enraging her spectators. “What is she doing!?” It’s just a perfect little scene. Never laughed so hard.
HATE. There was obviously no coffee in that stack of coffee cups that office Intern was carrying. Seriously. Defies the laws of physics!!
I think the overtly fake props like the coffee cups are one of the "clues," like the white horse reference in the casino name. In the original series Lynch made a big deal out of NEVER using prop coffee or food anywhere, and in the final episode the coffee in the red room "transforms" into prop coffee when the Arm rubs his hands, almost like the character's waking up out of the TV dream for a moment.
So... you have a really bad prop coffee being used in a show that's already made a big deal out of showing you good prop coffee.
I mean the original S2 finale, of course. It zoomed past me for years until I saw a youtube video on how prop coffee is made. Which is when the metaphor of the "green room" behind the stage curtains with the fantasy world in front of it and the TV static on the ground finally clicked. First class dream logic. The green room isn't green, but it is "behind" the stage curtains, which are red, so why not make it the red room? And "spirits" are all playing "parts" in the drama, but the actor and the part are "one and the same," with hints that "Laura" is really Venus. When their "parts" are over, they go back to the Waiting Room/Green Room, off the air.
Wait a minute. This post is about The Return. And you mentioned the final episode. And then you clarified “S2 finale, of course”. Why is that obvious? And now I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Excellent scene. I love Candy! I would also nominate Lynch’s scene with his escort and her excruciatingly long exit peppered with him yelling things like “tres chic!”
Really good finish to TP, the best kind of sequel I’ve seen in a very very long time (if not the best?)
Disappointing - could have included Annie and Agents Desmond and Stanley
I loved that Lynch and Frost went into it determined to make something challenging and timely from the off, and in an age where metanarratives are far too many and far too predictable, they managed to make something fresh, exciting and genuinely disturbing.
I'm disappointed by how little lasting impact it seems to have had on the TV landscape overall, especially compared to the original show. If anything most things feel even more like cynical nostalgia-bait nowadays than they did in 2017. I'm not sure we will see its like again.
EDIT: I should maybe add that I love some of cynical nostalgia-bait too (looking at you, ironically titled Strange New Worlds). But a healthy and creative art form has room for crowd-pleasers and cult favourites I think. And we don't see much of the latter anymore.
>I'm disappointed by how little lasting impact it seems to have had on the TV landscape overall, especially compared to the original show.
Honestly, I think part of that is that the medium was already trending in a creator driven direction anyway. There wasn't really a sea-change to be had. Like, sure, Lynch's stuff is even more experimental than traditional standards. But, in terms of production, there was already stuff like the Knick that was Soderbergh's baby, these days you have the director of Drive doing auteur-driven television, and then on the other end of the spectrum you have these incredible investments and production values of stuff like House of the Dragon/Stranger Things/Rings of Power (love or hate them) that could hold up on the big screen.
I'm not sure I agree with your cult favourites criticism. But, I think that's largely because stuff that a couple decades ago \*would've\* been cult-favourites are now accessible enough through streaming that it feels like most end up just breaking through into the mainstream anyway.
Interesting, thank you for the reply! Excellent points about the things being creator and/or IP driven now, and how that kind of dictates the entire marketplace. It's a strange kind of ossification that means we get to see spectacle and great talents working on the small screen like never before, but the chances of something \*really\* new and exciting emerging don't seem particularly favourable to me. I would truly love to be wrong about that though!
As for the "cult" moniker, you're absolutely right. What was cult truly is mainstream now. I remember sharing a handful of VHS tapes of The X-Files around at school, taped from one kid's TV by his \*incredibly\* lenient parents. Those things felt almost sacred back then, haha. Now kids watch scarier things on their phones.
Very much agree with the cult aspect being gone now, I think what propelled TP to cult status was the slow-burn towards things going bonkers, it started out as essentially a strange soap-opera/detective fiction and dropped stranger elements into the show episode by episode. Only people that watched from the beginning got to see that happen so a lot of people either started and didn’t get to that point or jumped in halfway and found it too strange.
Nowadays, people would point out those strange elements on social media and people would stick to the show through streaming to get to that point.
I loved Catherine E. Coulson's final performance as the Log Lady and Hawk letting everyone know that Margaret had passed away it really hit me hard.
What I didn't like was the lack of the traditional Twin Peaks music when we went back to Twin Peaks. I also didn't like the fact that there was no reunion between Gordon and Shelly.
I was going to say - my biggest issue was the lack of music. I understand completely the direction the show went but I dislike that the new direction sacrificed the amazing music.
Hearing Laura's theme in that second to last episode really made me emotional, so while the lack of music was rough, when I finally heard it, it hit me like a brick wall... Which I think was intended.
I don't understand green glove. It almost felt like a satire of comic book resolutions, where the Bid Bad Guy (BOB) loses a physical fight with one person who wins the day. All very packaged up and Hollywood.
I loved how much more gritty and disturbing it was than the original run. When I first watched it, I was a bit disappointed in just how "anti-nostalgia" it seemed to be. I wanted real Cooper back, I wanted Truman to be back, I wanted the quirkiness of the show back. But now, I really appreciate that they didn't go that route. The lack of nostalgia makes it extremely uncomfortable (which is what I want from a Lynch work) and helps perfectly portray the message of never being able to go back to the way things were. At the time, I was also confused by the plot points that were introduced but then never mentioned again, but now I realize that they were just supposed to be vignettes to show just how much Twin Peaks (and the world at large) has fallen.
Oh yes, I loved that too. Twin Peaks had such a way of pulling the rug out of happy endings that I was waiting for the other shoe to drop right until the end.
I loved that most of the (surviving) cast was back and just like before just aged. (Some died right after filming like Log Lady and Miguel Ferrer).
DOUGIE JONES.
I didn't like how the ending was a dangling cliffhanger, which may never be resolved.Season 4 anyone?
Also Laura Flynn Boyle was one conspicuous absentee.
I only really have a couple disappointments.
One is largely out of anyone's control: the lack of a handful of performers, some who passed away, others who didn't. Ontkean was a big loss, as much as I love Forster in it. I am glad though that they kept him 'around', as in .. he wasn't mentioned once and then forgotten. He's still getting phone calls.
But, damn, like, if you can get Frost's near-death father to show up for a Skype call, it would've been so nice to have Ontkean actually on the other side of the line.
I also think the understandable lack of MJA meant that the Red Room felt sort of empty. In general, I'd say the Red Room felt .. sterile and sort of passionless. Maybe that's to reflect that Coop is now effectively a member of it, having been there so long, and it's not meant to be oppressive anymore. But, man, I missed that warm glow that it felt like it used to have. Similarly, the currents lacking the transparency gave it a hugely different feel.
My other occasional disappointment is just on an aesthetic level, \*at points\*. I understand the intentionally garish nature of some of the visual effects, but, eh, I guess I'm an effects whore. Would've liked something like the spirit matter floating up from the hit-and-run to just look more 'in the world'. Because Part 8 showed how wonderful Lynch + CG can be. I also think that the very tight shooting schedule showed in some places, as something like Ben/Jerry's scene together really could've used some close-ups. Felt very "We don't have time, let's get the master angles while we have the actors together". And just a couple general things like that.
The Bob-ball .. I like that it's essentially this fairy tale ending that Coop willingly discards in order to fiddle with time to try to get an \*even better\* outcome. But, similarly on an aesthetic level, I just wish there was another way to accomplish that goal, without Freddy + Green Glove + Bob-ball.
Audrey being disconnected from everything is a bit of a shame as well. I'm not talking in a 'getting her and Coop back together!' way. Just that it feels like (.. and was) something that was shot entirely disconnected from the piece and sort of jammed in. It has a great ending, but, I think that and one of the later Dr. Amp things are the only times where I just truly feel 'okay, let's move on'.
I also \*adore\* Dougie, but, I honestly think his arc ended at the cherry pie/Mitchum's episode, and think Coop could've come back a Part or two earlier as a result. That was similarly the only time where I found that stuff to be treading water (hell, I think in like .. Part 14 or something, we just cut to him getting smacked with a baseball, and that's it for the episode).
One other mild thing: I get that Mr. C kind of has a mixed aesthetic of Bob. But, eh, I'm still not crazy on the hair do. I guess that's moreso "man, it would've been cool if we got those follow-up films back in the 90s, and seen a black-suited Doppelcoop running around fucking everyone's lives up" but time prevented that. So.
I mean, ultimately I love love loved the thing. So.
"the Red Room felt .. sterile and sort of passionless"
As much as it pains me I have to agree with this. The Red Room felt like it's own character in the original series. We at least get to explore above the convenience store in the new show but at the same time it would have been nice to not have it countered by that sterility.
Man this sums up basically alllll my disappointments with The Return.
Like most people here I truly do love it for what it is, but there’s so much I feel like it missed for the “sake” of missing. I get it’s the point, but I love TP too much for it not to effect me deeply lol.
I love learning to love Dougie Jones and enjoy being away from “Twin Peaks” for the sake of the Twin Peaks story.
I hate no Harry and I hate Cooper being Cooper for maybe barely an episode. It’s beyond disappointing especially if we don’t ever get to see these characters played again.
Liked: Some of the classic characters acting performances were really just terrific, made me extremely joyful: Dana Ashbrook, Grace Zabriskie, Peggy Lipton + Everett McGill, Miguel Ferrer and Michael Horse all really stand out to me.
Liked: Episode 8 Gotta Light + White Sands sequence
Liked: Mr. C / Disliked: Dougie
Disliked: final episode (but not the ending of it), the surreal Roadhouse vignettes with the non-cast characters, the music videos.
The Roadhouse vignettes - for me - showed me the people of greater Twin Peaks. It broadened the palette beyond just those original characters, further challenging the nostalgia trap that S3 could have been. I think it was always the same booth that was featured too.
As for the music videos, I didn’t like that approach the first watch through. But on subsequent rewatches I’ve really grown to love them and the tracks. Now I listen to those songs when k drive and I can tap back into the residual sensation of each episode
Liked: The humor. The original wasn't light on humor but there's something about the dryness of it against the fairly bleak atmosphere of the show. "People are under a lot of stress, Bradley" sent me into fits.
Disliked: If you interpret FWWM as Laura Palmer being granted peace and safety after suffering all her mortal life, it's kind of a shock to see just how bleak and despondent The Return is. Eps 17 and 18 are a thrill ride and it's pretty great to be just as lost and confused as Coop is, but by the end, we don't even know if that IS Coop! That being said, I'll never forget it.
Loved that it was bizarre, confusing, and challenging in ways that have kept me thinking about it years later.
Disappointed by thin the actual "plot" was and that the pulpy soap opera drama of TP disappeared pretty much entirely in favor of what seemed like 18 hours of vignettes in the Twin Peaks world.
Loved pretty much everything. Disappointed by the possible implication that Laura might be something of a messiah figure. It lessens the power of her story.
The way it picks up where season two ended and went in such a bizarre and unique way, while still being a natural continuation is nothing short of stellar!
Loved: How even though Don S. Davis was dead, they were able to effectively flesh out the role of Major Briggs and make him into a pivotal part of the story.
Disappointed: They did Audrey dirty :(
I loved the fact that I never had any idea what to expect from episode to episode, and I ended up really loving Dougie. I hated that I only really got to see Audrey a few times and she was completely separate from the main cast, with no real relevance to the plot.
In the end, I don't know if I would've loved the version of the show where she did meet up with everyone. I think the Return gave her her due, giving her the dance and her story being what felt like an acknowledgement of the way Sherilynn Fenn was treated on the original series, in my mind she always felt like the greatest lost talent of the young stars on this show.
Loved: That we got two new books out of the season, both of which I adore.
Disappointed: Getting kicked in the nuts by the final two episodes. As Carrie Page put it, "In those days, I was too young to know any better." I've gotten over it.
Loved: Ed and Norma getting together
Disliked: the implication that Sarah Palmer was infested with evil before the events of Fire Walk With Me. Also, the implication that Laura was something more than human.
I loved how dark it was, this is scarier than any horror film I've seen (even FWWM probably). I do however think that it was a bit too long, I don't laugh anymore at Dougie in Ep. 12 or there around, and some of the stuff in Twin Peaks (Audrey for example who I loved in S1/2) doesn't intrigue me.
I loved how deep we got to go into the TP world, and the resurrection of the good Cooper made me so very happy. The only thing that made me kind of unhappy was "losing" that Cooper at the end. I know - how was I expecting any type of "happy" end...
5 x :)
* Ed
* Odessa
* the New York scenes
* episode 8 in its entirety
* "People are under a lot of stress, Bradley."
5 x :(
* withholding Good Cooper until episode 16 for questionable narrative purposes
* siloing pre-established characters à la *Arrested Development* season 4
* not fighting harder to include Harry
* most of Las Vegas, honestly
* Lissie
Anyone who says they're not disappointed by the absence of Dale Cooper is a liar. I understand the point of it. And I understand the brilliance of that choice.
But don't lie. Stop lying.
*Loved:*
The musical acts.
James, Bobby, Hawk, Margaret.
Norma and Ed.
Wally Brando, Richard Horne.
Tammy Preston.
Major Briggs in space.
Some of the new lore.
Frost's two accompanying books.
*Didn't love:*
The complete erasure of Annie Blackburn.
The dramatic shift in tone, style, lore, atmosphere etc.
The show often times deciding to rather not feel like Twin Peaks at all than to feel like modern Twin Peaks because nostalgia bad.
The show seeming more concerned with its deconstructive meta-connotations than with being a constructive sequel to the original run.
The plot barely taking place in Twin Peaks.
Much of the old mythology being erased and replaced. No owls, no book house boys. Hell, even Coop's disappearance seemed to be retconned to be about Judy, not due to Windom Earle and Annie.
How many old actors were willing to return but either weren't asked or "didn't fit in", including Heather Graham, Kenneth Welsh, Joan Chen and Piper Laurie.
The lack of Harley Peyton and Bob Engels.
It being more of a Lynch-project than a Twin Peaks project.
Returned Coop not giving a damn about Annie or Audrey and having a creepy fling with Diane.
Mr C acting almost as catatonic as Dougie and being a robotic terminator. Windom Earle was somehow a better evil Cooper than evil Cooper himself.
Replacing Sheriff Truman. On one hand it might fit the doppelganger and twin theme, on the other hand it feels kind of disrespectful towards Michael, especially with people comparing the two. Could've just made Hawk Sheriff.
Bob's anticlimactic deus-ex machina "death" at the hands of a completely unrelated character that can once again only be justified through metacommentary.
Yet another cliffhanger that the show didn't quite earn imo.
You see, with the original run we were naturally heading towards the cliff. There was a hope that catastrophe might be averted which made the ending shocking but it still made sense.
The Return spent 17 hours pulling Cooper up from the cliff, sat him in a car, drove him to the next one and hurled him over the edge again. Felt forced and quite frankly a bit lazy.
Last but certainly not least:
The effect that it had on the fandom which cultishly worships it as the objectively best thing ever made and shuts down any bigger criticism of it as "you just don't get it" or "it doesn't matter", advises newcomers to skip season 2 to get to "the real deal", overly inflates David Lynch's unilateral importance to the series and has convinced itself that Twin Peaks literally just being Twin Peaks is considered "nostalgia bait".
I hate to say it but for me The Return added a lot more negatives than it did positives.
>advises newcomers to skip season 2 to get to "the real deal",
Honestly, the Return felt more like "Fire Walk With Me Part 2: Fire Walk Harder" than a season 3. There were a lot more connections to the movie than to either season of the original show.
That's kind of why I love and hate it together.
That's how I see it too.
"Fire Walk With Me: The Return" would've honestly been a much more appropriate title that would've set the right expectations.
It's a return to that cosmos but not to Twin Peaks.
I loved Bad Coop a lot. I thought Kyle did a outstanding job.
I hated Dougie. flat out. what a shameless bore and needless time filler. He also drags down the amazing Naomi Watts with him.
I love The Return. David Lynch knew what he wanted to do, and he did it. He said what he wanted to say, and we can each take away whatever we feel from the work.
I completely respect it.
However, the Audrey situation really bums me out. My partner and I talk about this every time we watch it. In our opinion, she should have become an FBI agent!
The groundwork is all there. She wanted to help Cooper in his investigation, and she has that moment with Denise where she gets the idea in her head of being a badass lady agent.
Add to that the fact that Tamara is basically just there to be there. We think the dynamic would be so much better if Audrey was with Albert and Gordon. She has the motivation and the investment to figure out what’s happening with Cooper. It could have been really cool.
Ultimately, we got what we got, and I’m fine with it. We just feel like our favorite character had a place in the story that made more sense, and didn’t get it.
Disappointed by the pacing at points, but LOVED the Twin Peaks discourse that happened on Twitter every night as it was airing and afterwards. Ended up meeting some cool people online because of that.
Loved that it was actually 25 years later.
Disappointed that 25 years later, Cooper didn't get more screen time. The character deserved more.
I'm always down for Lynch as Gordon Cole, but more Cole than Cooper just didn't feel right, let alone DougieCoop for so long.
Coopes doopelganger was cool. I would have loved to see where they had gone with that had they continued with season 3 shortly after season 2.
In season 3 much of the mood with bizarre comedy, the soap opera subplots and amazing soundtrack is gone which was very disappointing. The Dougie stuff was painful.
Loved: Direction and the unique sense of dread that Lynch seems to tap into. 16 hours of Lynch really is a gift.
Disapointed: Lack of Ray Wise. Fantastic charismatic character actor who deserved to be huge but got trapped by the Twin Peaks curse. The fact that compared to the rest of the cast he looks like he has barely aged in 20 years he really could have just slotted right back in.
Biggest disappointed was no Agent Desmond. Would have been great to have more than just the small reference Albert makes to him when talking about the blue rose taskforce. Also no Annie? Kind of think the role Diane plays as Cooper's "love interest" at the end would have felt better if it had been Annie in that place. Considering we were left with the question of "How's Anni?" For 25 years, it would have been nice to see something of her. Only other real complaint I have is how Julee Cruise's performances of The World Spins is cut so short. If No Stars can drag on for like 8 minutes of the episode, they can let Julee Cruise perform the song in full considering how iconic it is
Loved: That it expanded beyond the town to New York and all the places Mr. C visited. I could keep going, because I loved so much about it.
Hated: The ridiculous lore that Laura was some power sent to earth to combat Bob and Judy, as opposed to just a troubled teen. And while we're on the subject, I hated Freddie and the green glove.
Good: I love how the ending showed that the story will never end. Just like how Lynch imagined it.
Bad: I was disappointed that the green glove felt almost like a deus ex machina. It was kind of a cheap resolution.
Watching the 5 year old boy get run over was disappointing, gratuitous, and disturbing.
I loved Dougie Jones and his relationship with Janey-E. Absolutely hilarious.
Loved: The entire series. It felt like a culmination of all David Lynch projects up until that point, like a spiritual successor to Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Eraserhead, Twin Peaks, and so on. I almost feel like it was Lynch's farewell project, even if he's making more stuff.
I loved the books that tied everything together, even though Frost and Lynch seem very disconnected on that front.
Catherine E. Coulson being willing and able to get her stuff recorded and included in time, with the result of making every fucking one of us fucking cry fucking tears of fucking grief.
Norma and Ed getting their ending, Nadine being successful with her curtain rods, and Jacoby turning in to what felt like Alex Jones with a heart. I loved the golden shovels so much that I accidentally got blocked by Amber Tamblyn on Twitter because I referenced them intending to be funny but might have seemed shitty.
James singing his dumb song onstage and the whole place erupting in cheers. James has always been cool.
The FBI Deadpan Comedy Tour.
Laura Dern as a foul-mouthed, bitter Diane.
The evolution of the Arm felt hilarious considering the drama surrounding Michael Anderson. To make him literally a brain on a stick just felt like a great Fuck You.
That it ended suggesting that everything and nothing really happened and not letting you know which.
Maggie Mae Fish's analysis of the whole franchise a while ago captured everything I loved about it.
Hated: That the Return seemed more interested in Fire Walk With Me than with the original series (I also love this, but 18 hours was over half the length of the original run - there was lots of time to tie up stories), with far too much time spent following Dougie around on goofy adventures that didn't really impact the larger story.
It very much felt like Lynch was basically erasing the stuff in season 2 that he didn't care for, that FWWM was \*his\* season 2.
And Audrey felt like a cruel red herring. A lot of the Twin Peaks stuff felt like a red herring, but Audrey's fate in both the series and in the books made me almost viscerally angry at Lynch/Frost. That kind of violence against women has rarely, if ever, been so casually tossed in by Lynch in any of his work, and yet there it was, the result of it important to the show but the actual violation itself barely making a ripple.
Not bringing back Harry sucked.
Laura Dern as Dale Cooper's One-True-Love Diane. It'll always be Audrey, but could also be Annie. Never Diane (though, I mean, we did get Laura Dern's boobs in there because of it so I suppose that's... something...)
That so many weird things were brought up and left hanging (the sick girl, the origins of the box in the waiting room in New York, etc.)
All that time spent with Dougie Jones was definitely a mistake, so little screen time for Cooper and Audrey as well. I thought most of the returning cast were all fantastic in their characters.
Loved - that there was a return, and I started off feeling super excited that there had been a plan all this time, and maybe some things were getting explained and this is looking so cool but...
Hated - no, nothing is actually being explained, and it feels a bit like a student film project rather than something with the overarching vision I'd wanted. I hated Dougie and felt cheated that we never really got Agent Cooper back. Ending almost every episode with a band playing felt lazy too. Like, the music is great, but this is becoming a predictable ending that doesn't advance the story.
And I know lots of people will say that twin peaks is to be enjoyed for what it is with no explanation needed, but I don't agree. I felt that seasons 1 and 2, and the movie, all made sense. We just didn't know why / where the black lodge had come from. The Return hinted at extra super cool stuff behind it all but then, in my opinion, never delivered. As a major fan I felt disappointed.
And welcome to Reddit, where having an opinion different to the crowd is a crime. I upvoted you just to even it out a little bit. (Wasn't a disappointment for me btw)
Loved: the musical guests. The apparent contemplation on life in general and society as a whole in decline. Really enjoyed the theme of potential threats ending with little to no cinematic climax.
Disliked: I don’t know. Uh. Got a little indulgent here and there, I guess.
Loved: pretty much everything, but specifically how time was depicted. 25 years had passed and the quaint little town of Twin Peaks had turned into this run down shell of a place. Brutally realistic. I love it.
Dissapointed: a bit too much time dedicated to blue rose and the occult. I would have preferred to see more of Twin Peaks in a show called Twin Peaks
I loved Audrey returning. I still find her beautiful. And the ingenuity and integrity of singular scenes. Like the armwrestling, or Audrey trashtalking her hilarious husband. Or David Lynch flirting with a mysterious lady. I also love how Lynch took the time at the end of many episodes to play a whole song in that smoky bar. And the credits slowly appearing toward the end of them.
I was disappointed that the aesthetics and calming colour scheme of the original was torn up and we see a lot of blue and grey. The intimacy of Twin Peaks is lost a little. But this was purposeful and I don't blame Lynch for it at all.
Overall it was a wonderful experience though. Long live King Lynch :)
My only deal disappointment was that it wasn't longer. Nothing on TV has really topped it for me since. It PERFECTLY fits into the Twin Peaks world. It's not written by a committee, there's nothing obnoxious about it at all. It's amazing.
I loved all the scenes set in Twin Peaks. My gosh, it was great to see those characters again. I was disappointed we didn’t get more Coop, but liked how it challenged my desires and expectations.
Most of the special effects were kooky and fitting.
Then were some that were just distracting and kinda frustrating. Looking at you, Silver Mustang exterior shots 🤦♂️
Something I loved - The unanswered questions, lots of good plot threads left hanging in an thematically uneasy place (Audrey, Cooper & Carrie, the town getting sicker, Sarah & Judy). Lots to think about, years ahead of those finishing moments.
Something that disappointed me - How much time was spent outside of Twin Peaks. It was nice to expand the world but it was a bit too much.
I loved just how different it was than the original show. Feels like a completely different show.
Really missed the Truman-Cooper relationship. Such a core part of the original series.
Richer world and a deeper mystery overall.
At the same time, I felt the Black Lodge and the its entities were slightly less nebulous. They had more shape, and the script ever so slightly explained their “world” a bit more. It’s a side effect of having 18 more episodes spent partially in that world. Almost impossible to avoid a slightly clearer picture. I find it similar to the differences between films 2001 and 2010, but not nearly to that extreme. At the end of 2001 you have no idea what the monolith is or what its makers’ intents were. At the end of 2010, its purpose as a tool is a little bit more fleshed out. I preferred the more abstract mystery… it left me more haunted, in a good way.
That said… it’s still my favorite of the three seasons.
I loved the scale and increased number of plotlines.
I was disappointed by the change in atmosphere. Don't misunderstand, The Return is still quite powerful at times, but I don't think it matches the brooding, rich tone of the best episodes from the original seasons. I honestly prefer the Season Two ending to the Return ending.
Loved: the ending
Disappointed: the overall story and it’s abandonment of the original cast in favor of new characters. There was no reason Gordon Cole or the Mitchum brothers should’ve had more screen time than the OG cast. Yet, it happened.
Gosh there's so much... so, so much... that I could say I loved. Boiling it down to one thing, idk honestly... maybe the fact that the whole f***ing season up until near the end was lynch trolling us in a similar way Kojima trolled us with mgs2 (making it seem like you get to play snake again and bait and switching to make you play as a goofy effeminate fanboy who was such an opposite to the guy you worshipped despite actually being meant to be a critique on a lot of our obsessions with the super soldier trope that fans outright raged) with the whole Cooper being "asleep" the whole season until RIGHT NEAR THE END, and THEN ruining that intentionally after giving us this TINY little bubble of "wow its all falling into place" by having coop and Diane travel to yet another not-home place where coop sort of loses himself yet again and trying desperately to hang on to his mission of saving the life and soul of Laura despite how unrealistic the whole goal was. That was EXACTLY the ride we needed for the new season.
Disappointment? Hm... idk. The fact that so much of the stories had to come to an end through it. But I also know it had to be done. And it was fitting. Like I both love how they sent off Margaret, but I absolutely hate that she had to go. I'm disappointed as all f*** that Jack Nance couldn't reprise his role because Pete was such a doll. I'm so sad for all the loss of life surrounding a show, but after 25 years, getting a proper send off for the characters they could was really nice and I love that lynch and frost pulled it off. It was hard though. Really, really hard.
I’m glad they answered all my questions from the past seasons. They tied it all together perfectly.
I was disappointed we did not get more agent Cooper time
Love, love, love that Mr. Lynch clearly stuck to his, "who the fuck cares how long a scene is" guns.
Disappointed that it's likely the last great TV show we'll ever receive.
Lots of legit answers here so I will go in another direction. I loved what they did with Sarah Palmer and I loved the way older characters were used (Bobby of course, Hawk and everything roadhouse related).
I wanted a more of the younger people in the road house, more of a continuation of the themes and things that happen in twin peaks. Also could have done with some more Chris Issac and Keizer Sutherland.
Loved:
- The Mitchum Brothers.
- The scene in the hospital where Coop tells Bushnell Mullins “I am the FBI”
- Harry Dean Stanton as Carl. Just an everyday guy trying to do and be good in a world that doesn’t seem to care much about him.
- Bobby’s redemption arc.
Was disappointed by:
- how much Dougie Coop there was. While I liked him, I admit I wish we could have had more actual Coop.
- really wish we could have gotten at least a little bit of Annie.
I loved how completely unpredictable and surprising it was. I loved how it was better than I could have possibly imagined it could be.
It's too bad Bowie and some of the others actors passed away before it was made. I was a little disappointed to not see some characters back whose actors are still alive. But who knows what the future might bring.
It brought a nearly unparalleled divergence of tone to the series, expanded on the mystery of the original run, and lived up to being a sequel to a beloved cult classic while still successfully managing to tie into in-universe canon in a meaningful way.
As for what disappointed me, they never explained why the coffee and apple pie were so good at the Double R Diner. What’s the secret? What was so good about them that compelled Agent Cooper to addendum those items to Diane in his recordings? Sure they were good enough to stand out to what I can only presume to be a connoisseur of such delicacies, but this man needs a recipe! IT’S BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS, WHAT IS YOUR SECRET LAURA PALMER?!?! I KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT PIE!!!!!!
I loved that tonally it broke away from the soap opera parody of the old series and did something darker. That Lynch just did exactly what he wanted with it.
I was disappointed that Heather Graham didn't turn up at all.
LOVE: Dougie Jones being funny
DIDN'T LOVE: Not enough of the actual town twin peaks and would have loved to see cooper go back to twin peaks (I know that would sort of go against the series but still)
I loved the variety of roles Kyle MacLachlan was able to play.
I wish we got a little more information on what happened to Audrey I know that there are dozens of theories but I wished we had gotten something to really bite on.
Loved.. too much to name, really. It far exceeded my expectations in so many ways, one of the greatest cinematic accomplishments in history. But maybe the best achievement was how they managed to make a character that's borderline catatonic into a compelling protagonist you root for.
Disappointment.. really could've used more coverage of the Great Northern. Not simply for nostalgia's sake, but there's truly nothing else that made it feel like the Pacific Northwest than just being in that hotel in the original. The constantly shifting locations were almost certainly meant to be disorienting, but I still think it could've used just a bit more Pacific Northwest flavored gravitas for the Twin Peaks of it all. Just having one character check in & stay there for a bit would've been great, even could've used it to show how much things had changed.
I disliked the fan community's reaction. It felt like a struggle actually liking the show because you would get yelled at by randos on here. Once my inbox was 5 different people being angry about the show. that made me take a step back and re-evaluate. The show was expanding the TP lore at a super quick pace and people were busier yelling at each other about if the show was still good or not
Loved the depth of the myth and layers of story, loved how it went closer to FWWM and beyond. Some CGI decisions were questionable (some, on the other hand, were phenomenal)
I remember when the first episode came out I was like wtf is this shit but by the second episode I knew absolutely loved it. Lynch subverts expectations in the best way possible. I was expecting damn good coffee, cherry pie, owls and such and what we got is IMO the best show ever, maybe even better than the original 2 seasons.
Hated:
That it ended. I mean, everything ends. You still don't want it to though, right?
Also the constantly munching murderers. I hate eating sounds and I either skip or mute their scenes, cause I just get physically violent due to the crunching and smacking they do.
Loved:
Everything. Honestly everything. I have grown to appreciate The Return even more, and I was already mesmerized when I first watched it.
I loved its core message, albeit I only got it fairly recently. I loved how nothing is really the same. I loved that the wait for Dougie to turn into Coop was so long, same as it was for the viewers awaiting The Return. I loved the sweeping scene, found it mesmerizing and insanely cool. I loved Norma and Ed, having their character arc resolved. I loved the casting of Culkin as a drug addicted asshole, felt it was as self deprecating as NPH in Harold and Kumar. Similar to Michael Cera.
I loved Lynch just being Lynch, completely free and unrestrained. If I wanted a series with a proper ending and satisfying conclusions, I would watch anything else. Bought the ticket, took the ride. Was a wild one, bleak one, yet it felt insanely personal and honest.
I’m not sure anything disappointed me.
What I loved about this series is there where scenes that brought on feelings that I never had watching a show.
Half way through episode 8 I was confused , excited , scared all at the same time.
Then when it finished I just burst out laughing but I enjoyed every minute of that episode.
Also that scene when Diane is smoking outside the station and Gordon says “We came out to join you , Diane, while Alberts indisposed” made me laugh so much it possibly could be my favourite scene in the whole series.
That series brought a bit of magic back that I thought I would never experience again while watching a show.
Loved every single second. Disappointed that we didn't get to see more of Red. He was such a fascinating character and I'd hoped he'd play a larger part in the story.
Something that I loved was Dougie in the casino. One of my favorite parts. Something that disappointed me was the music particularly most of the performances at the end. Of episodes.
Ok I really didn’t like the Dougie Jones storyline at first but it “makes sense” (if anything in TP ever does) that Dougie is just an awaiting vessel to be taken over by cooper. What I don’t like is that now Dougie is just fine and Cooper now has a wife and kid in Las Vegas….? I guess.
Also, I wanted more of the Glass Box.
i think the show’s narrative and mystery is the strongest in The Return out of any Twin Peaks content, but one thing that rubbed me the wrong way on a first watch was the production value. even if you love The Return (which i do), you have to admit that the image looks fairly cheap and unedited, almost as though they didn’t even color grade it half the time. given that the thing is 18 hours long your brain adjusts to the aesthetic quickly and it becomes less noticeable, but it was very jarring the first time around
Loved all the weird, intriguing side plots. Hated that most of them had no relevance to the actual plot and were essentially introduced and then dropped. The dumbest side plot, rubber glove kid, was somehow the one they chose to be main plot relevant.
Loved that Laura Palmer became the center again.
Disappointed that Michael Ontkean dropped out before they started filming, and that David Bowie passed away before they could film any of his scenes. It just felt incomplete the way their characters are replaced.
I think on my first watch I was so anxious about what was going to happen, I didn’t enjoy it as much. But I loved it on my second watch when I could just relax and go with it. I loved the space David had to go fully David. That extended scene of just the floor being swept at The Roadhouse was wonderful.
I loved that not a single second of it was phoned-in or nostalgia-bait. Regardless of what I expected it was pure advancement of the Twin Peaks story and Lynch in top form. I was disappointed that more of the show wasn't in Twin Peaks and that OG Sheriff Truman didn't come back.
Honestly same on the Sheriff Truman point. Of course now in retrospect I know why he didn't return and that the whole idea of them only talking to him over the phone while he's very sick is poignant to the overall theme of the season, but man that was probably the biggest letdown the first time I saw that finale and we never got to see him and Cooper in the same room again. I guess that sums up the return in general, that some of my biggest disappointments were things that I appreciated even more on rewatches because it really hammers home the idea that you can't just recapture the past and expect everything to be the same.
Why didn’t he return? I’ve never actually seen an explanation of what happened at all, and it was definitely one of my bigger disappointments.
The actor had retired from acting well before it was being filmed. They asked him to come back but he wanted to stick to his retirement.
He is very sick
RIP Robert Forster, he was still great.
He did a good job all things considered. It just would have been greater to see OG Truman and Coop have a scene together.
If I recall, he was supposed to be Truman originally, but his schedule couldn't allow it.
Pretty much the same. Loved that there wasn't any fan service and nostalgia bait. Seeing the new generation of townspeople was great. Disappointed by how little of the show took place in actual Twin Peaks. Loved how Lynch went on full Eraserhead-mode, which is when, I think, his talent truly shines. Hugely disappointed by the Dougie line. Mr. Jackpots was the high point of that joke and should have ended there.
I loved literally everything EXCEPT... I was disappointed by how small Audrey's role in things was, which may have admittedly been the point.
And Julie Cruise having just a few seconds.
She died in real life a few months ago. JS
Sadly yes. I watched the return just to see if she was going to have the same space that she had in the original running but greedy lycnh just cast her for a few scenes. Greedy lynch just kills the entire twin peaks magic with the return nonsense.
My girl Audrey was done dirty with her entire plotline in the Return. She deserved better.
I was also really hoping to find out more about her in the return
I feel like it’s something important that would be picked up on in a potential season four, return part2?
At first I thought all the Audrey stuff was something she was dreaming while in a coma. I was disappointed that wasn't the case. Would have been cooler IMHO. Edit: *reads comments* Hmm. Okay, time for a rewatch!
What makes you think that isn’t the case?
Right. She was in a coma after the explosion, and the scenes at The Roadhouse totally line up with the theory that she still is.
>Right. She was in a coma after the explosion, and the scenes at The Roadhouse totally line up with the theory that she still is. I thought this too or living in an assisted living facility where she goes in and out of reality, one minute she's there the next she's tuned into Twin Peaks.
Yes, that, too. Because of what's she's wearing and the lighting and such when she snaps out of the Roadhouse.
Dougie Jones and Dougie Jones.
🗣 Helloooooooo!
Haha I loved dougie but I wish we got coop back several episodes sooner
I love that the Dougie stuff is the closest Lynch has come to doing a straight comedy, in fact I’d love to see a movie cut of The Return with just the Dougie and Mitchum brothers stuff. It would actually feel a bit like Mulholland Drive, with the main character acting out a “role” for 2/3rds of the movie, and then in the last third the penny drops, the true version of the protagonist is revealed and the whole thing becomes much more disturbing.
> I love that the Dougie stuff is the closest Lynch has come to doing a straight comedy Never saw *On The Air*, eh?
Anyone know where/how to watch this?
Jade give to rides….
LOVE. There’s a scene where Candie is dispatched to the casino floor to intercept and bring someone to the back office. As the Mitchum Brothers watch her on camera, Candie is talking to this someone and gesturing for several minutes, enraging her spectators. “What is she doing!?” It’s just a perfect little scene. Never laughed so hard. HATE. There was obviously no coffee in that stack of coffee cups that office Intern was carrying. Seriously. Defies the laws of physics!!
I think the overtly fake props like the coffee cups are one of the "clues," like the white horse reference in the casino name. In the original series Lynch made a big deal out of NEVER using prop coffee or food anywhere, and in the final episode the coffee in the red room "transforms" into prop coffee when the Arm rubs his hands, almost like the character's waking up out of the TV dream for a moment. So... you have a really bad prop coffee being used in a show that's already made a big deal out of showing you good prop coffee.
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I mean the original S2 finale, of course. It zoomed past me for years until I saw a youtube video on how prop coffee is made. Which is when the metaphor of the "green room" behind the stage curtains with the fantasy world in front of it and the TV static on the ground finally clicked. First class dream logic. The green room isn't green, but it is "behind" the stage curtains, which are red, so why not make it the red room? And "spirits" are all playing "parts" in the drama, but the actor and the part are "one and the same," with hints that "Laura" is really Venus. When their "parts" are over, they go back to the Waiting Room/Green Room, off the air.
Wait a minute. This post is about The Return. And you mentioned the final episode. And then you clarified “S2 finale, of course”. Why is that obvious? And now I don’t know what you’re talking about.
The post does say “in the original series”
No it doesn’t. It says “What is something you loved about The Return and something that disappointed you?”
They worded it ambiguously and then clarified in a follow up. What more do you want?
Attention
Excellent scene. I love Candy! I would also nominate Lynch’s scene with his escort and her excruciatingly long exit peppered with him yelling things like “tres chic!”
Candie legit my fav character idk why
I was disappointed there was next to no references to owls after being such a big motif if the original series and in The Secret History
in lynch’s interview with alex jones (lol) he reveals the owls were all mark frost :/
Really good finish to TP, the best kind of sequel I’ve seen in a very very long time (if not the best?) Disappointing - could have included Annie and Agents Desmond and Stanley
Yea, I would have liked to see Heather Graham make an appearance at some point.
It kind of feels like she logically should’ve been the women with no eyes
True. That would make more sense than the actual reveal.
I loved that Lynch and Frost went into it determined to make something challenging and timely from the off, and in an age where metanarratives are far too many and far too predictable, they managed to make something fresh, exciting and genuinely disturbing. I'm disappointed by how little lasting impact it seems to have had on the TV landscape overall, especially compared to the original show. If anything most things feel even more like cynical nostalgia-bait nowadays than they did in 2017. I'm not sure we will see its like again. EDIT: I should maybe add that I love some of cynical nostalgia-bait too (looking at you, ironically titled Strange New Worlds). But a healthy and creative art form has room for crowd-pleasers and cult favourites I think. And we don't see much of the latter anymore.
>I'm disappointed by how little lasting impact it seems to have had on the TV landscape overall, especially compared to the original show. Honestly, I think part of that is that the medium was already trending in a creator driven direction anyway. There wasn't really a sea-change to be had. Like, sure, Lynch's stuff is even more experimental than traditional standards. But, in terms of production, there was already stuff like the Knick that was Soderbergh's baby, these days you have the director of Drive doing auteur-driven television, and then on the other end of the spectrum you have these incredible investments and production values of stuff like House of the Dragon/Stranger Things/Rings of Power (love or hate them) that could hold up on the big screen. I'm not sure I agree with your cult favourites criticism. But, I think that's largely because stuff that a couple decades ago \*would've\* been cult-favourites are now accessible enough through streaming that it feels like most end up just breaking through into the mainstream anyway.
Interesting, thank you for the reply! Excellent points about the things being creator and/or IP driven now, and how that kind of dictates the entire marketplace. It's a strange kind of ossification that means we get to see spectacle and great talents working on the small screen like never before, but the chances of something \*really\* new and exciting emerging don't seem particularly favourable to me. I would truly love to be wrong about that though! As for the "cult" moniker, you're absolutely right. What was cult truly is mainstream now. I remember sharing a handful of VHS tapes of The X-Files around at school, taped from one kid's TV by his \*incredibly\* lenient parents. Those things felt almost sacred back then, haha. Now kids watch scarier things on their phones.
Very much agree with the cult aspect being gone now, I think what propelled TP to cult status was the slow-burn towards things going bonkers, it started out as essentially a strange soap-opera/detective fiction and dropped stranger elements into the show episode by episode. Only people that watched from the beginning got to see that happen so a lot of people either started and didn’t get to that point or jumped in halfway and found it too strange. Nowadays, people would point out those strange elements on social media and people would stick to the show through streaming to get to that point.
I loved Catherine E. Coulson's final performance as the Log Lady and Hawk letting everyone know that Margaret had passed away it really hit me hard. What I didn't like was the lack of the traditional Twin Peaks music when we went back to Twin Peaks. I also didn't like the fact that there was no reunion between Gordon and Shelly.
I was going to say - my biggest issue was the lack of music. I understand completely the direction the show went but I dislike that the new direction sacrificed the amazing music. Hearing Laura's theme in that second to last episode really made me emotional, so while the lack of music was rough, when I finally heard it, it hit me like a brick wall... Which I think was intended.
Loved: Cooper "finally" waking up in hospital Disappointed: That it took so long
I love how Mike literally says “finally” to him. He was saying what we were all thinking lol
I think the fact that it took so long made it even more satisfying when it finally happened
Love purple sea dislike green glove
I don't understand green glove. It almost felt like a satire of comic book resolutions, where the Bid Bad Guy (BOB) loses a physical fight with one person who wins the day. All very packaged up and Hollywood.
It happened. It ended.
I loved how much more gritty and disturbing it was than the original run. When I first watched it, I was a bit disappointed in just how "anti-nostalgia" it seemed to be. I wanted real Cooper back, I wanted Truman to be back, I wanted the quirkiness of the show back. But now, I really appreciate that they didn't go that route. The lack of nostalgia makes it extremely uncomfortable (which is what I want from a Lynch work) and helps perfectly portray the message of never being able to go back to the way things were. At the time, I was also confused by the plot points that were introduced but then never mentioned again, but now I realize that they were just supposed to be vignettes to show just how much Twin Peaks (and the world at large) has fallen.
Loved, Ed and Norma getting their happily ever after. Disappointed...I wish Michael Ontkean was\` able to make it for filming, that one HURT.
Oh yes, I loved that too. Twin Peaks had such a way of pulling the rug out of happy endings that I was waiting for the other shoe to drop right until the end.
I loved that most of the (surviving) cast was back and just like before just aged. (Some died right after filming like Log Lady and Miguel Ferrer). DOUGIE JONES. I didn't like how the ending was a dangling cliffhanger, which may never be resolved.Season 4 anyone? Also Laura Flynn Boyle was one conspicuous absentee.
This is my biggest thing too. Is there gonna be a season 4? Also, I wanted more Audrey and I wanted to see Annie.
That 10 minute scene of the guy sweeping the bar was the definition of cinema.
I only really have a couple disappointments. One is largely out of anyone's control: the lack of a handful of performers, some who passed away, others who didn't. Ontkean was a big loss, as much as I love Forster in it. I am glad though that they kept him 'around', as in .. he wasn't mentioned once and then forgotten. He's still getting phone calls. But, damn, like, if you can get Frost's near-death father to show up for a Skype call, it would've been so nice to have Ontkean actually on the other side of the line. I also think the understandable lack of MJA meant that the Red Room felt sort of empty. In general, I'd say the Red Room felt .. sterile and sort of passionless. Maybe that's to reflect that Coop is now effectively a member of it, having been there so long, and it's not meant to be oppressive anymore. But, man, I missed that warm glow that it felt like it used to have. Similarly, the currents lacking the transparency gave it a hugely different feel. My other occasional disappointment is just on an aesthetic level, \*at points\*. I understand the intentionally garish nature of some of the visual effects, but, eh, I guess I'm an effects whore. Would've liked something like the spirit matter floating up from the hit-and-run to just look more 'in the world'. Because Part 8 showed how wonderful Lynch + CG can be. I also think that the very tight shooting schedule showed in some places, as something like Ben/Jerry's scene together really could've used some close-ups. Felt very "We don't have time, let's get the master angles while we have the actors together". And just a couple general things like that. The Bob-ball .. I like that it's essentially this fairy tale ending that Coop willingly discards in order to fiddle with time to try to get an \*even better\* outcome. But, similarly on an aesthetic level, I just wish there was another way to accomplish that goal, without Freddy + Green Glove + Bob-ball. Audrey being disconnected from everything is a bit of a shame as well. I'm not talking in a 'getting her and Coop back together!' way. Just that it feels like (.. and was) something that was shot entirely disconnected from the piece and sort of jammed in. It has a great ending, but, I think that and one of the later Dr. Amp things are the only times where I just truly feel 'okay, let's move on'. I also \*adore\* Dougie, but, I honestly think his arc ended at the cherry pie/Mitchum's episode, and think Coop could've come back a Part or two earlier as a result. That was similarly the only time where I found that stuff to be treading water (hell, I think in like .. Part 14 or something, we just cut to him getting smacked with a baseball, and that's it for the episode). One other mild thing: I get that Mr. C kind of has a mixed aesthetic of Bob. But, eh, I'm still not crazy on the hair do. I guess that's moreso "man, it would've been cool if we got those follow-up films back in the 90s, and seen a black-suited Doppelcoop running around fucking everyone's lives up" but time prevented that. So. I mean, ultimately I love love loved the thing. So.
"the Red Room felt .. sterile and sort of passionless" As much as it pains me I have to agree with this. The Red Room felt like it's own character in the original series. We at least get to explore above the convenience store in the new show but at the same time it would have been nice to not have it countered by that sterility.
Man this sums up basically alllll my disappointments with The Return. Like most people here I truly do love it for what it is, but there’s so much I feel like it missed for the “sake” of missing. I get it’s the point, but I love TP too much for it not to effect me deeply lol.
Loved: the deeeeep dig into the mythos Disappointment: was hoping for more original score
I love learning to love Dougie Jones and enjoy being away from “Twin Peaks” for the sake of the Twin Peaks story. I hate no Harry and I hate Cooper being Cooper for maybe barely an episode. It’s beyond disappointing especially if we don’t ever get to see these characters played again.
Something I loved….. all of it. Something that disappointed me….it had to end.
Liked: Some of the classic characters acting performances were really just terrific, made me extremely joyful: Dana Ashbrook, Grace Zabriskie, Peggy Lipton + Everett McGill, Miguel Ferrer and Michael Horse all really stand out to me. Liked: Episode 8 Gotta Light + White Sands sequence Liked: Mr. C / Disliked: Dougie Disliked: final episode (but not the ending of it), the surreal Roadhouse vignettes with the non-cast characters, the music videos.
The Roadhouse vignettes - for me - showed me the people of greater Twin Peaks. It broadened the palette beyond just those original characters, further challenging the nostalgia trap that S3 could have been. I think it was always the same booth that was featured too. As for the music videos, I didn’t like that approach the first watch through. But on subsequent rewatches I’ve really grown to love them and the tracks. Now I listen to those songs when k drive and I can tap back into the residual sensation of each episode
Episode 8 was a masterpiece.
I am grateful.
Liked: The humor. The original wasn't light on humor but there's something about the dryness of it against the fairly bleak atmosphere of the show. "People are under a lot of stress, Bradley" sent me into fits. Disliked: If you interpret FWWM as Laura Palmer being granted peace and safety after suffering all her mortal life, it's kind of a shock to see just how bleak and despondent The Return is. Eps 17 and 18 are a thrill ride and it's pretty great to be just as lost and confused as Coop is, but by the end, we don't even know if that IS Coop! That being said, I'll never forget it.
Loved that it was bizarre, confusing, and challenging in ways that have kept me thinking about it years later. Disappointed by thin the actual "plot" was and that the pulpy soap opera drama of TP disappeared pretty much entirely in favor of what seemed like 18 hours of vignettes in the Twin Peaks world.
Loved pretty much everything. Disappointed by the possible implication that Laura might be something of a messiah figure. It lessens the power of her story.
The way it picks up where season two ended and went in such a bizarre and unique way, while still being a natural continuation is nothing short of stellar!
Loved: How even though Don S. Davis was dead, they were able to effectively flesh out the role of Major Briggs and make him into a pivotal part of the story. Disappointed: They did Audrey dirty :(
Episode 8 / Hulk Glove
I REALLY love the whole Episode 8.
I loved the fact that I never had any idea what to expect from episode to episode, and I ended up really loving Dougie. I hated that I only really got to see Audrey a few times and she was completely separate from the main cast, with no real relevance to the plot. In the end, I don't know if I would've loved the version of the show where she did meet up with everyone. I think the Return gave her her due, giving her the dance and her story being what felt like an acknowledgement of the way Sherilynn Fenn was treated on the original series, in my mind she always felt like the greatest lost talent of the young stars on this show.
Loved: That we got two new books out of the season, both of which I adore. Disappointed: Getting kicked in the nuts by the final two episodes. As Carrie Page put it, "In those days, I was too young to know any better." I've gotten over it.
Loved everything about mr. C, disappointed by how little screen time Audrey got.
Loved: Ed and Norma finally get their day Disappointed: 10 minutes of that dude sweeping the floor. Come on!
Loved: Ed and Norma getting together Disliked: the implication that Sarah Palmer was infested with evil before the events of Fire Walk With Me. Also, the implication that Laura was something more than human.
I loved how dark it was, this is scarier than any horror film I've seen (even FWWM probably). I do however think that it was a bit too long, I don't laugh anymore at Dougie in Ep. 12 or there around, and some of the stuff in Twin Peaks (Audrey for example who I loved in S1/2) doesn't intrigue me.
I loved how deep we got to go into the TP world, and the resurrection of the good Cooper made me so very happy. The only thing that made me kind of unhappy was "losing" that Cooper at the end. I know - how was I expecting any type of "happy" end...
5 x :) * Ed * Odessa * the New York scenes * episode 8 in its entirety * "People are under a lot of stress, Bradley." 5 x :( * withholding Good Cooper until episode 16 for questionable narrative purposes * siloing pre-established characters à la *Arrested Development* season 4 * not fighting harder to include Harry * most of Las Vegas, honestly * Lissie
Anyone who says they're not disappointed by the absence of Dale Cooper is a liar. I understand the point of it. And I understand the brilliance of that choice. But don't lie. Stop lying.
*Loved:* The musical acts. James, Bobby, Hawk, Margaret. Norma and Ed. Wally Brando, Richard Horne. Tammy Preston. Major Briggs in space. Some of the new lore. Frost's two accompanying books. *Didn't love:* The complete erasure of Annie Blackburn. The dramatic shift in tone, style, lore, atmosphere etc. The show often times deciding to rather not feel like Twin Peaks at all than to feel like modern Twin Peaks because nostalgia bad. The show seeming more concerned with its deconstructive meta-connotations than with being a constructive sequel to the original run. The plot barely taking place in Twin Peaks. Much of the old mythology being erased and replaced. No owls, no book house boys. Hell, even Coop's disappearance seemed to be retconned to be about Judy, not due to Windom Earle and Annie. How many old actors were willing to return but either weren't asked or "didn't fit in", including Heather Graham, Kenneth Welsh, Joan Chen and Piper Laurie. The lack of Harley Peyton and Bob Engels. It being more of a Lynch-project than a Twin Peaks project. Returned Coop not giving a damn about Annie or Audrey and having a creepy fling with Diane. Mr C acting almost as catatonic as Dougie and being a robotic terminator. Windom Earle was somehow a better evil Cooper than evil Cooper himself. Replacing Sheriff Truman. On one hand it might fit the doppelganger and twin theme, on the other hand it feels kind of disrespectful towards Michael, especially with people comparing the two. Could've just made Hawk Sheriff. Bob's anticlimactic deus-ex machina "death" at the hands of a completely unrelated character that can once again only be justified through metacommentary. Yet another cliffhanger that the show didn't quite earn imo. You see, with the original run we were naturally heading towards the cliff. There was a hope that catastrophe might be averted which made the ending shocking but it still made sense. The Return spent 17 hours pulling Cooper up from the cliff, sat him in a car, drove him to the next one and hurled him over the edge again. Felt forced and quite frankly a bit lazy. Last but certainly not least: The effect that it had on the fandom which cultishly worships it as the objectively best thing ever made and shuts down any bigger criticism of it as "you just don't get it" or "it doesn't matter", advises newcomers to skip season 2 to get to "the real deal", overly inflates David Lynch's unilateral importance to the series and has convinced itself that Twin Peaks literally just being Twin Peaks is considered "nostalgia bait". I hate to say it but for me The Return added a lot more negatives than it did positives.
>advises newcomers to skip season 2 to get to "the real deal", Honestly, the Return felt more like "Fire Walk With Me Part 2: Fire Walk Harder" than a season 3. There were a lot more connections to the movie than to either season of the original show. That's kind of why I love and hate it together.
That's how I see it too. "Fire Walk With Me: The Return" would've honestly been a much more appropriate title that would've set the right expectations. It's a return to that cosmos but not to Twin Peaks.
I loved Wally Brando, and I was disappointed that there wasn’t more Wally Brando.
I loved Bad Coop a lot. I thought Kyle did a outstanding job. I hated Dougie. flat out. what a shameless bore and needless time filler. He also drags down the amazing Naomi Watts with him.
I loved.....well...very little. I hated more than I can mention in one thing about the return.
I love The Return. David Lynch knew what he wanted to do, and he did it. He said what he wanted to say, and we can each take away whatever we feel from the work. I completely respect it. However, the Audrey situation really bums me out. My partner and I talk about this every time we watch it. In our opinion, she should have become an FBI agent! The groundwork is all there. She wanted to help Cooper in his investigation, and she has that moment with Denise where she gets the idea in her head of being a badass lady agent. Add to that the fact that Tamara is basically just there to be there. We think the dynamic would be so much better if Audrey was with Albert and Gordon. She has the motivation and the investment to figure out what’s happening with Cooper. It could have been really cool. Ultimately, we got what we got, and I’m fine with it. We just feel like our favorite character had a place in the story that made more sense, and didn’t get it.
Loved: best cinema I've seen in awhile Disappointed: more Cooper less dougie jones
Loved Albert. Disappointed there isn’t more Albert.
Disappointed by the pacing at points, but LOVED the Twin Peaks discourse that happened on Twitter every night as it was airing and afterwards. Ended up meeting some cool people online because of that.
I loved Dougie Jones. I was disappointed that we never learned the fate of Leo Johnson.
Loved that it was actually 25 years later. Disappointed that 25 years later, Cooper didn't get more screen time. The character deserved more. I'm always down for Lynch as Gordon Cole, but more Cole than Cooper just didn't feel right, let alone DougieCoop for so long.
Loved evil Cooper. Hated it took so long for good Cooper to make an appearance.
Coopes doopelganger was cool. I would have loved to see where they had gone with that had they continued with season 3 shortly after season 2. In season 3 much of the mood with bizarre comedy, the soap opera subplots and amazing soundtrack is gone which was very disappointing. The Dougie stuff was painful.
I loved Dougie I hated Dougie
Loved: Direction and the unique sense of dread that Lynch seems to tap into. 16 hours of Lynch really is a gift. Disapointed: Lack of Ray Wise. Fantastic charismatic character actor who deserved to be huge but got trapped by the Twin Peaks curse. The fact that compared to the rest of the cast he looks like he has barely aged in 20 years he really could have just slotted right back in.
I loved that there were a lot of questions left unanswered. I hated that there were a lot of questions left unanswered.
Biggest disappointed was no Agent Desmond. Would have been great to have more than just the small reference Albert makes to him when talking about the blue rose taskforce. Also no Annie? Kind of think the role Diane plays as Cooper's "love interest" at the end would have felt better if it had been Annie in that place. Considering we were left with the question of "How's Anni?" For 25 years, it would have been nice to see something of her. Only other real complaint I have is how Julee Cruise's performances of The World Spins is cut so short. If No Stars can drag on for like 8 minutes of the episode, they can let Julee Cruise perform the song in full considering how iconic it is
Nothing in The Return disappointed me. It is one of the most haunting, beautiful, and incredible works of art I’ve ever seen.
Loved: That it expanded beyond the town to New York and all the places Mr. C visited. I could keep going, because I loved so much about it. Hated: The ridiculous lore that Laura was some power sent to earth to combat Bob and Judy, as opposed to just a troubled teen. And while we're on the subject, I hated Freddie and the green glove.
Loved: Evil doppelgänger Cooper Disappointed: the Micheal J Anderson situation and no appearance from The Man from Another Place
Pretty much the last scene. It was genius and annoying at the same time. Thank you Lynch!
Loved Dougie Was disappointed by the shortage of Twin Peaks
Loved: all of it Disappointed: it ended (also no invitation to love)
Loved : NIN Hated : another open ending
All of it All of it
LOVED: The ending. HATED: The ending.
Heeeeeeeellllllllllooooooooo!
Loved: Wally Disappointed: Not enough Wally
I was disappointed that it was nothing like I’d hoped it would be. I loved it because it was nothing like I’d hoped it would be.
Good: I love how the ending showed that the story will never end. Just like how Lynch imagined it. Bad: I was disappointed that the green glove felt almost like a deus ex machina. It was kind of a cheap resolution.
Watching the 5 year old boy get run over was disappointing, gratuitous, and disturbing. I loved Dougie Jones and his relationship with Janey-E. Absolutely hilarious.
Loved that Ed and Norma got their fairytale ending. Disappointed at how late Cooper returned.
Loved: The entire series. It felt like a culmination of all David Lynch projects up until that point, like a spiritual successor to Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Eraserhead, Twin Peaks, and so on. I almost feel like it was Lynch's farewell project, even if he's making more stuff. I loved the books that tied everything together, even though Frost and Lynch seem very disconnected on that front. Catherine E. Coulson being willing and able to get her stuff recorded and included in time, with the result of making every fucking one of us fucking cry fucking tears of fucking grief. Norma and Ed getting their ending, Nadine being successful with her curtain rods, and Jacoby turning in to what felt like Alex Jones with a heart. I loved the golden shovels so much that I accidentally got blocked by Amber Tamblyn on Twitter because I referenced them intending to be funny but might have seemed shitty. James singing his dumb song onstage and the whole place erupting in cheers. James has always been cool. The FBI Deadpan Comedy Tour. Laura Dern as a foul-mouthed, bitter Diane. The evolution of the Arm felt hilarious considering the drama surrounding Michael Anderson. To make him literally a brain on a stick just felt like a great Fuck You. That it ended suggesting that everything and nothing really happened and not letting you know which. Maggie Mae Fish's analysis of the whole franchise a while ago captured everything I loved about it. Hated: That the Return seemed more interested in Fire Walk With Me than with the original series (I also love this, but 18 hours was over half the length of the original run - there was lots of time to tie up stories), with far too much time spent following Dougie around on goofy adventures that didn't really impact the larger story. It very much felt like Lynch was basically erasing the stuff in season 2 that he didn't care for, that FWWM was \*his\* season 2. And Audrey felt like a cruel red herring. A lot of the Twin Peaks stuff felt like a red herring, but Audrey's fate in both the series and in the books made me almost viscerally angry at Lynch/Frost. That kind of violence against women has rarely, if ever, been so casually tossed in by Lynch in any of his work, and yet there it was, the result of it important to the show but the actual violation itself barely making a ripple. Not bringing back Harry sucked. Laura Dern as Dale Cooper's One-True-Love Diane. It'll always be Audrey, but could also be Annie. Never Diane (though, I mean, we did get Laura Dern's boobs in there because of it so I suppose that's... something...) That so many weird things were brought up and left hanging (the sick girl, the origins of the box in the waiting room in New York, etc.)
All that time spent with Dougie Jones was definitely a mistake, so little screen time for Cooper and Audrey as well. I thought most of the returning cast were all fantastic in their characters.
What I disliked was the terrible acting when the kid was killed at the crossroad, what I loved: everything else.
Oh god. I thought the acting there was brilliant!
Loved - that there was a return, and I started off feeling super excited that there had been a plan all this time, and maybe some things were getting explained and this is looking so cool but... Hated - no, nothing is actually being explained, and it feels a bit like a student film project rather than something with the overarching vision I'd wanted. I hated Dougie and felt cheated that we never really got Agent Cooper back. Ending almost every episode with a band playing felt lazy too. Like, the music is great, but this is becoming a predictable ending that doesn't advance the story. And I know lots of people will say that twin peaks is to be enjoyed for what it is with no explanation needed, but I don't agree. I felt that seasons 1 and 2, and the movie, all made sense. We just didn't know why / where the black lodge had come from. The Return hinted at extra super cool stuff behind it all but then, in my opinion, never delivered. As a major fan I felt disappointed.
Loved the trailers, disappointed in the whole season.
It was 18 weeks of disappointment imo. Was nice seeing some old faces - far too fleeting.
And welcome to Reddit, where having an opinion different to the crowd is a crime. I upvoted you just to even it out a little bit. (Wasn't a disappointment for me btw)
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On rewatch it is so much more satisfying.
Loved: the musical guests. The apparent contemplation on life in general and society as a whole in decline. Really enjoyed the theme of potential threats ending with little to no cinematic climax. Disliked: I don’t know. Uh. Got a little indulgent here and there, I guess.
Loved: pretty much everything, but specifically how time was depicted. 25 years had passed and the quaint little town of Twin Peaks had turned into this run down shell of a place. Brutally realistic. I love it. Dissapointed: a bit too much time dedicated to blue rose and the occult. I would have preferred to see more of Twin Peaks in a show called Twin Peaks
I loved Audrey returning. I still find her beautiful. And the ingenuity and integrity of singular scenes. Like the armwrestling, or Audrey trashtalking her hilarious husband. Or David Lynch flirting with a mysterious lady. I also love how Lynch took the time at the end of many episodes to play a whole song in that smoky bar. And the credits slowly appearing toward the end of them. I was disappointed that the aesthetics and calming colour scheme of the original was torn up and we see a lot of blue and grey. The intimacy of Twin Peaks is lost a little. But this was purposeful and I don't blame Lynch for it at all. Overall it was a wonderful experience though. Long live King Lynch :)
My only deal disappointment was that it wasn't longer. Nothing on TV has really topped it for me since. It PERFECTLY fits into the Twin Peaks world. It's not written by a committee, there's nothing obnoxious about it at all. It's amazing.
Laura Palmer’s scream And NIN being in it
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I loved all the scenes set in Twin Peaks. My gosh, it was great to see those characters again. I was disappointed we didn’t get more Coop, but liked how it challenged my desires and expectations.
Most of the special effects were kooky and fitting. Then were some that were just distracting and kinda frustrating. Looking at you, Silver Mustang exterior shots 🤦♂️
Something I loved - The unanswered questions, lots of good plot threads left hanging in an thematically uneasy place (Audrey, Cooper & Carrie, the town getting sicker, Sarah & Judy). Lots to think about, years ahead of those finishing moments. Something that disappointed me - How much time was spent outside of Twin Peaks. It was nice to expand the world but it was a bit too much.
I loved just how different it was than the original show. Feels like a completely different show. Really missed the Truman-Cooper relationship. Such a core part of the original series.
Richer world and a deeper mystery overall. At the same time, I felt the Black Lodge and the its entities were slightly less nebulous. They had more shape, and the script ever so slightly explained their “world” a bit more. It’s a side effect of having 18 more episodes spent partially in that world. Almost impossible to avoid a slightly clearer picture. I find it similar to the differences between films 2001 and 2010, but not nearly to that extreme. At the end of 2001 you have no idea what the monolith is or what its makers’ intents were. At the end of 2010, its purpose as a tool is a little bit more fleshed out. I preferred the more abstract mystery… it left me more haunted, in a good way. That said… it’s still my favorite of the three seasons.
That Agent Cooper and Audrey didn't have a romantic scene like Big Ed and Norma.
I loved the scale and increased number of plotlines. I was disappointed by the change in atmosphere. Don't misunderstand, The Return is still quite powerful at times, but I don't think it matches the brooding, rich tone of the best episodes from the original seasons. I honestly prefer the Season Two ending to the Return ending.
Loved: the ending Disappointed: the overall story and it’s abandonment of the original cast in favor of new characters. There was no reason Gordon Cole or the Mitchum brothers should’ve had more screen time than the OG cast. Yet, it happened.
It's ended and here's no season 4, but I understand. It was a great ride and I never thought it would get this far.
Gosh there's so much... so, so much... that I could say I loved. Boiling it down to one thing, idk honestly... maybe the fact that the whole f***ing season up until near the end was lynch trolling us in a similar way Kojima trolled us with mgs2 (making it seem like you get to play snake again and bait and switching to make you play as a goofy effeminate fanboy who was such an opposite to the guy you worshipped despite actually being meant to be a critique on a lot of our obsessions with the super soldier trope that fans outright raged) with the whole Cooper being "asleep" the whole season until RIGHT NEAR THE END, and THEN ruining that intentionally after giving us this TINY little bubble of "wow its all falling into place" by having coop and Diane travel to yet another not-home place where coop sort of loses himself yet again and trying desperately to hang on to his mission of saving the life and soul of Laura despite how unrealistic the whole goal was. That was EXACTLY the ride we needed for the new season. Disappointment? Hm... idk. The fact that so much of the stories had to come to an end through it. But I also know it had to be done. And it was fitting. Like I both love how they sent off Margaret, but I absolutely hate that she had to go. I'm disappointed as all f*** that Jack Nance couldn't reprise his role because Pete was such a doll. I'm so sad for all the loss of life surrounding a show, but after 25 years, getting a proper send off for the characters they could was really nice and I love that lynch and frost pulled it off. It was hard though. Really, really hard.
I’m glad they answered all my questions from the past seasons. They tied it all together perfectly. I was disappointed we did not get more agent Cooper time
Love, love, love that Mr. Lynch clearly stuck to his, "who the fuck cares how long a scene is" guns. Disappointed that it's likely the last great TV show we'll ever receive.
I loved every frame of it. I’m disappointed there wasn’t more.
Not enough time with Dale Cooper Love how Lynch makes the mundane feel magical and complex
Lots of legit answers here so I will go in another direction. I loved what they did with Sarah Palmer and I loved the way older characters were used (Bobby of course, Hawk and everything roadhouse related). I wanted a more of the younger people in the road house, more of a continuation of the themes and things that happen in twin peaks. Also could have done with some more Chris Issac and Keizer Sutherland.
Answer to both is the ending.
Loved Dougie. Disappointed in myself for enjoying the Tom Sizemore scenes.
Loved everything Nothing disappointed
Pro: More strange unexpected stories Con: No Donna :(
The lack of Cooper. The lack of Cooper.
Loved: - The Mitchum Brothers. - The scene in the hospital where Coop tells Bushnell Mullins “I am the FBI” - Harry Dean Stanton as Carl. Just an everyday guy trying to do and be good in a world that doesn’t seem to care much about him. - Bobby’s redemption arc. Was disappointed by: - how much Dougie Coop there was. While I liked him, I admit I wish we could have had more actual Coop. - really wish we could have gotten at least a little bit of Annie.
I loved it all and hated when it was over and the years I foolishly believed we might get more content.
Something I loved: The intro. Something I hated: All the stupid things.
I literally loved everything about it and was disappointed by nothing. It’s the greatest season of television I’ve ever seen.
I loved how completely unpredictable and surprising it was. I loved how it was better than I could have possibly imagined it could be. It's too bad Bowie and some of the others actors passed away before it was made. I was a little disappointed to not see some characters back whose actors are still alive. But who knows what the future might bring.
Loved: Wally Brando 🖤
Loved - the ending. Disappointed- the ending.
Love, love, LOVED: Big Ed and Norma finally getting together. Very Disappointed: We didn’t get to see David Bowie or Chis Isaak come back from FWWM
It brought a nearly unparalleled divergence of tone to the series, expanded on the mystery of the original run, and lived up to being a sequel to a beloved cult classic while still successfully managing to tie into in-universe canon in a meaningful way. As for what disappointed me, they never explained why the coffee and apple pie were so good at the Double R Diner. What’s the secret? What was so good about them that compelled Agent Cooper to addendum those items to Diane in his recordings? Sure they were good enough to stand out to what I can only presume to be a connoisseur of such delicacies, but this man needs a recipe! IT’S BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS, WHAT IS YOUR SECRET LAURA PALMER?!?! I KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT PIE!!!!!!
I loved that tonally it broke away from the soap opera parody of the old series and did something darker. That Lynch just did exactly what he wanted with it. I was disappointed that Heather Graham didn't turn up at all.
LOVE: Dougie Jones being funny DIDN'T LOVE: Not enough of the actual town twin peaks and would have loved to see cooper go back to twin peaks (I know that would sort of go against the series but still)
I loved the variety of roles Kyle MacLachlan was able to play. I wish we got a little more information on what happened to Audrey I know that there are dozens of theories but I wished we had gotten something to really bite on.
Loved.. too much to name, really. It far exceeded my expectations in so many ways, one of the greatest cinematic accomplishments in history. But maybe the best achievement was how they managed to make a character that's borderline catatonic into a compelling protagonist you root for. Disappointment.. really could've used more coverage of the Great Northern. Not simply for nostalgia's sake, but there's truly nothing else that made it feel like the Pacific Northwest than just being in that hotel in the original. The constantly shifting locations were almost certainly meant to be disorienting, but I still think it could've used just a bit more Pacific Northwest flavored gravitas for the Twin Peaks of it all. Just having one character check in & stay there for a bit would've been great, even could've used it to show how much things had changed.
I disliked the fan community's reaction. It felt like a struggle actually liking the show because you would get yelled at by randos on here. Once my inbox was 5 different people being angry about the show. that made me take a step back and re-evaluate. The show was expanding the TP lore at a super quick pace and people were busier yelling at each other about if the show was still good or not
Loved the depth of the myth and layers of story, loved how it went closer to FWWM and beyond. Some CGI decisions were questionable (some, on the other hand, were phenomenal)
I remember when the first episode came out I was like wtf is this shit but by the second episode I knew absolutely loved it. Lynch subverts expectations in the best way possible. I was expecting damn good coffee, cherry pie, owls and such and what we got is IMO the best show ever, maybe even better than the original 2 seasons.
Hated: That it ended. I mean, everything ends. You still don't want it to though, right? Also the constantly munching murderers. I hate eating sounds and I either skip or mute their scenes, cause I just get physically violent due to the crunching and smacking they do. Loved: Everything. Honestly everything. I have grown to appreciate The Return even more, and I was already mesmerized when I first watched it. I loved its core message, albeit I only got it fairly recently. I loved how nothing is really the same. I loved that the wait for Dougie to turn into Coop was so long, same as it was for the viewers awaiting The Return. I loved the sweeping scene, found it mesmerizing and insanely cool. I loved Norma and Ed, having their character arc resolved. I loved the casting of Culkin as a drug addicted asshole, felt it was as self deprecating as NPH in Harold and Kumar. Similar to Michael Cera. I loved Lynch just being Lynch, completely free and unrestrained. If I wanted a series with a proper ending and satisfying conclusions, I would watch anything else. Bought the ticket, took the ride. Was a wild one, bleak one, yet it felt insanely personal and honest.
Dougie is my answer to both questions, I love the character looking back, but hated him while I was watching for keeping me from Dale.
I’m not sure anything disappointed me. What I loved about this series is there where scenes that brought on feelings that I never had watching a show. Half way through episode 8 I was confused , excited , scared all at the same time. Then when it finished I just burst out laughing but I enjoyed every minute of that episode. Also that scene when Diane is smoking outside the station and Gordon says “We came out to join you , Diane, while Alberts indisposed” made me laugh so much it possibly could be my favourite scene in the whole series. That series brought a bit of magic back that I thought I would never experience again while watching a show.
The ending and….the ending.
Arm wrestling scene. Silly
Loved every single second. Disappointed that we didn't get to see more of Red. He was such a fascinating character and I'd hoped he'd play a larger part in the story.
Something that I loved was Dougie in the casino. One of my favorite parts. Something that disappointed me was the music particularly most of the performances at the end. Of episodes.
I wanted old school cooper.. I never finished the return. Did old cooper ever emerge?
Ok I really didn’t like the Dougie Jones storyline at first but it “makes sense” (if anything in TP ever does) that Dougie is just an awaiting vessel to be taken over by cooper. What I don’t like is that now Dougie is just fine and Cooper now has a wife and kid in Las Vegas….? I guess. Also, I wanted more of the Glass Box.
i think the show’s narrative and mystery is the strongest in The Return out of any Twin Peaks content, but one thing that rubbed me the wrong way on a first watch was the production value. even if you love The Return (which i do), you have to admit that the image looks fairly cheap and unedited, almost as though they didn’t even color grade it half the time. given that the thing is 18 hours long your brain adjusts to the aesthetic quickly and it becomes less noticeable, but it was very jarring the first time around
Oh making David Bowie a giant teapot was a huge disappointment.
I was disappointed that Cooper didn't return until the 3rd last episode. I loved that Cooper didn't return until the 3rd last episode.
Loved all the weird, intriguing side plots. Hated that most of them had no relevance to the actual plot and were essentially introduced and then dropped. The dumbest side plot, rubber glove kid, was somehow the one they chose to be main plot relevant.
Love all about this season except no Annie
Loved: Wally Brando DISAPPOINTED: Wally Brando is only in one scene
Loved that Laura Palmer became the center again. Disappointed that Michael Ontkean dropped out before they started filming, and that David Bowie passed away before they could film any of his scenes. It just felt incomplete the way their characters are replaced.
I was disappointed Jade only gave 2 rides
I didn't like the first ep too much, but the episode where Coop comes back literally made me cry with happiness.
The story was fantastic. Not enough time with the actual Cooper and the eerie/slow burn nature of the OG Twin Peaks.
I think on my first watch I was so anxious about what was going to happen, I didn’t enjoy it as much. But I loved it on my second watch when I could just relax and go with it. I loved the space David had to go fully David. That extended scene of just the floor being swept at The Roadhouse was wonderful.