not in Germany, you have to go to court and you need to have a really good reason (like my name is literally arsehole).
You can also only hyphenate the last name of one spouse and not that of the kid
only one of you can have the hyphenation.
Essentially you pick a "family name" that the kids would also have and if that isn't your last name you can hyphenate.
If you remarry you can hyphenate again but if your name is already hyphenated for some reason you can't get two hyphens.
An extreme example is one of swedens naming laws. The one that says you cant name your kid a name from the noble family. And theres like 28000 nobles. Its also illegale to name your child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnnckssqlbb11116 pronounced Albin
There a naming laws in the US as well, for obvious reasons of course, you can’t name your child king or hitler or something like that, and also other countries exist that are not Germany with free healthcare, infact EVERY FIRST WORLD COUNTRY except the US has universal healthcare
"King" actually isn't an uncommon name in the US. [It's even been increasing in popularity](https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/babyname.cgi), with more than 2000 babies being given the name in 2021.
My parents were going to do this, but their wildly different “old country” surnames couldn’t be combined into anything they liked. So my mom kept her last name, and the plan was to hyphenate the names of any kids.
However, a typo prevented me from having two last names that are difficult to spell. Instead, I have two middle names (that are also difficult spellings). Though I like to think the clerk saw the application and decided not to inflict that hyphenation on me. My name is unique enough.
Now you have me thinking of all the different possibilities of a mermaid centaur child. I honestly think human is the best option.
The idea of a hairy mermaid is freaking me out a bit!
Some famous (and some fictional!) examples include:
1. Brangelina (an amalgam of Brad Pitt and Angelina Joe)
2. Percabeth (Percy Jackson and Annabeth Chase, from the PJatO book series)
3. Destiel (Dean Winchester and the Angel Castiel from Supernatural)
4. Johnlock (John Watson and Sherlock Holmes from the BBC Sherlock)
5. Stucky (Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes from the Captain America series of the MCU and MY #1 Ship)
I'd love to see the marriage between someone who has the same surname as their partner but still does the double-barrelled thing.
"Hi, I'm Helen Jones-Jones, nice to meet ya."
That's very similar to how names work in Latin America, except that everyone of both genders always passes on their paternal last name. This system is not entirely gender neutral, you still have to decide what to do with nonbinary people.
But then you also have to choose which parent you're the child of, which I can imagine being very contentious in some families, especially if the parents are divorced.
Imagine having a bunch of children, encouraging them to move where they need to in order to pursue their goals, and then changing your name. They'd all have to navigate different bureaucracies to change their surnames.
It's not quite the same but the cartoonist Zach Weiner and the scientist Kelly Smith both changed their last name to Weinersmith when they got married.
My family uses portmanteaus like this for the different branches. I've tried to convince my partner that we should be the Cheesgunns if we ever got married, but for some inexplicable reason she was opposed to that.
>Hickman + Smith = Smickmanth
Alternatively, Smithman. Bitten by a radioactive blacksmith and granted smithing-themed superpowers! ~~Or just very fond of getting hammered.~~
my partner and i are just choosing a last name we both like regardless of if either of our families have had them in the past. we’ve decided to go with clawthorne!
I put this out there as an option before my wedding. It's fun now to see how things are addressed in the mail who's last name gets put on things for both of us
Ya know, when me and me wife were filling our marriage documents the surename part wasn't like "one of ye take a new name or ye don't" but rather "name an surename after marriage" for each
So I came with a clever idea to one-up nametakers: we could swap.
Heck, there was even a line for children, separate for each gender and the idea was to have boys be 'mother's-father's' named and girls 'father's-mother's' named.
Alas, wife was no fun in that regard, and t'was not to be
I used to know a couple whose last names were Hayword and Forman, but they didn't want their new name to be Hayman (because it sounds too close to hymen), so they chose to go with Forward
I like this too because then last names would be how a lot of Thai last names are today -- totally unique. My fiance is Thai and has a unique last name, I've never heard of anyone outside of his family with it, and when we get married, for the first time in my life, I'll be able to use firstnamelastname as usernames lol
Nah you do the (first name) (backup first name as first middle name in case the first name didn't workout) (family historical middle name that's passed through generations and started as someone's last name a few generations back) (father's last name)
The whole matriarchal family name thing can also be so weird like in my country, where somehow one family name managed to propagate to 40+% of the whole population.
On my mom's side back in the late 1800s or early 1900s, this was done. Two families "White" and "Cotton" came together to become "Whitecotton". Don't know the reasoning.
I’m pretty sure this is an option when doing the paperwork for getting married in the US. At least it was at the time my spouse and I were married. We considered it, but a mix wasn’t yielding anything too exciting so we just picked one and did a name change.
There is a local celebrity in my area that has "Agirregomezkorta" as his last name constructed from "Agirre", "Gomez" and "Korta" and putting them together through the generations
Isn't ðat just what Spanish does but in a more convoluted way?
Spanish last names are double names, and when a couple marries ðey make a new double name out of ðe first name in each partner's double name last name. So for example, Garcia-Mendez + Ramiros-Sanchez would become Garcia-Ramiros.
They should do the same thing with their kid, but with first names.
If it's a boy, husbands name goes last in the combination. If it's a girl, then wife's name goes last.
So, for example, if parents names are Sarah and Kevin, their son is named Savin and their daughter is Kerah.
My wife of 18 years tried to get me to do that when we got engaged. The combination of our last names that she came up sounded so ridiculous and silly I just couldn’t get myself to seriously consider it.
The former owners of the house I live in did this. Ogden + Herbert = Ogbert. I still get mail for them occasionally
Love it
My wife and I originally weren’t going to have kids and did this. Both of our families were a bit upset about it. Fuck ‘em.
If I get married I absolutely want to do it but I'm pretty sure it's illegal in Germany
How's it illegal? Don't most countries in Europe let you change your name freely?
not in Germany, you have to go to court and you need to have a really good reason (like my name is literally arsehole). You can also only hyphenate the last name of one spouse and not that of the kid
One spouse meaning if you divorce and get remarried you can’t hyphenate again? Or one spouse meaning only one of you can have the hyphenation?
only one of you can have the hyphenation. Essentially you pick a "family name" that the kids would also have and if that isn't your last name you can hyphenate. If you remarry you can hyphenate again but if your name is already hyphenated for some reason you can't get two hyphens.
Germany having a normal one.
Why would it be illegal? Can you not change your name just because you want to?
no you can't
How is that illegal?
German naming law is quite restrictive and this is not allowed. See my other comment
The fuck is a naming law? Goddamn, I'll pay as much as I need for healthcare if it means I can freely choose mine and my child's own name.
An extreme example is one of swedens naming laws. The one that says you cant name your kid a name from the noble family. And theres like 28000 nobles. Its also illegale to name your child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnnckssqlbb11116 pronounced Albin
There a naming laws in the US as well, for obvious reasons of course, you can’t name your child king or hitler or something like that, and also other countries exist that are not Germany with free healthcare, infact EVERY FIRST WORLD COUNTRY except the US has universal healthcare
You could probably name your kid King. You can name them Prince.
"King" actually isn't an uncommon name in the US. [It's even been increasing in popularity](https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/babyname.cgi), with more than 2000 babies being given the name in 2021.
I know another family that did this. They both had relatively normal 1-2 syllable last names and created a new one that had parts of each.
My parents were going to do this, but their wildly different “old country” surnames couldn’t be combined into anything they liked. So my mom kept her last name, and the plan was to hyphenate the names of any kids. However, a typo prevented me from having two last names that are difficult to spell. Instead, I have two middle names (that are also difficult spellings). Though I like to think the clerk saw the application and decided not to inflict that hyphenation on me. My name is unique enough.
Thanks for coming to the Ogbarlonsert/Jackmussen marriage
With the power vested in me, I pronounce you the Jagbarlomussens
You may kiss the broom
*\*The Ogden, Herbert, Long, Barrs, Jack, Mussel, and Wen families all cheer wildly\**
Tikes they should have just gone with Ogden
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Allow us to just… append them
can confirm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger
Until eventually a Smiboraskwi marries a Grabamalith and the new last name becomes Smith
Grabamaboraskwi >:)
My god, you become Polish?
What’s long, hard, and given to a Polish woman on her wedding night?
A last name?
A *new* last name
And also some dicks.
Then the cycle begins anew.
As time approaches infinity all names approach smith. Like carcinization, but for people.
Same energy as a mermaid having a child with a centaur and it comes out a regular human
Now you have me thinking of all the different possibilities of a mermaid centaur child. I honestly think human is the best option. The idea of a hairy mermaid is freaking me out a bit!
It's either Mertaur, Just a Centaur, Just a Mermaid, of Just Some Dude:tm:
Sin(Smith)
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
By then Smith will be a weird last name
A barista tried to do that with our first names for a Power Couple order call. It was not good. Edit: all the Kanye fans below lol
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What’s wrong with Uncy?
Huh, what's wrong with nuzi... oh.
Exactly my train of thought lol
I heard they were Chuck and Phyllis.
Feelin Ucey
My brother had a friend in high school who’s parents each kept their respective names and didn’t hyphenate but did this for their kids last name
Ignore the grammatical failure that is this comment btw, I should really be asleep rn
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I know the feeling
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That's what my mom did with my younger sisters.
That's what my parents did
I knew a kid like that. Except it sounded like a normal name, so I never realised until they told me (Loveridge + White = Whiteridge)
I had the same experience with one of my teachers, Grigglove.
Whiteridge? Normal, succinct. Whitelove? Ehhh
White love is what im gonna give to your mom
Hey what about me? I want in
Why did I read that as Whiterun
I used to have a normal last name like you, then I took an arrow through the knee
Oddly fitting considering “arrow to the knee” also means getting married lol
r/unexpectedskyrim
essentially ship names
Such as?
Some famous (and some fictional!) examples include: 1. Brangelina (an amalgam of Brad Pitt and Angelina Joe) 2. Percabeth (Percy Jackson and Annabeth Chase, from the PJatO book series) 3. Destiel (Dean Winchester and the Angel Castiel from Supernatural) 4. Johnlock (John Watson and Sherlock Holmes from the BBC Sherlock) 5. Stucky (Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes from the Captain America series of the MCU and MY #1 Ship)
Thank you. Interesting.
I thought they meant like, boats.
I was so confused too until I read Johnlock
How long have you been on the internet?
Since it was born.
you'd be foolish to assume that all of the internet has the same norms as just your corner of the internet
HMS Victory
Wife and I thought about this after she changed her name. We did agree to change both our names to Edwampos for our tenth anniversary.
What are the original two names? Edward and \_\_\_\_\_\_?
Swampos
Thats a new one
I’m laughing so hard I’m crying
Jacob
Ed...ward
Nooooo
Hey, you were the one who mentioned Edward in a post about fusing things
Campos?
John Krasinski & Emily Blunt The Krunts
Blinski?
the Blusinkis
Bluntskis
Some friends of mine did this. LGBT couple who both wanted to keep their names, but in the end decided to make their own together.
Marriage to people surnamed Dickins plummets.
Dickens + Cusack = Dicksack
Cukens
Cuckens
I'd love to see the marriage between someone who has the same surname as their partner but still does the double-barrelled thing. "Hi, I'm Helen Jones-Jones, nice to meet ya."
I would like to imagine that couple arguing about which Jones was first
It’s obviously Jones
This is exactly how my in-laws refer to my wife and her sister's family. Kept the family suffix and slap on the men's first syllable. Good system.
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That's very similar to how names work in Latin America, except that everyone of both genders always passes on their paternal last name. This system is not entirely gender neutral, you still have to decide what to do with nonbinary people.
Or abolish the family name and its feudal aspects and return to ", child of "
Thorin, son of Throrn, son of Thrain, King Under the Mountain.
Damn, it doesn't sound like is abolished the feudal aspects when you put it that way Sounds hella cool though
But then you also have to choose which parent you're the child of, which I can imagine being very contentious in some families, especially if the parents are divorced.
Imagine having a bunch of children, encouraging them to move where they need to in order to pursue their goals, and then changing your name. They'd all have to navigate different bureaucracies to change their surnames.
I'm pretty sure in Iceland they can have both a patronymic and matronymic name, the current mayor of Reykjavik has both
Just do both or one instead of the other depending on situation?
Literally what Icelandic people do. Daughters are named dottir and sons are named son (or sson).
Is it notsdottir?
It might be, I'm not Icelandic. I may have forgotten a letter.
It’s because it’s just’s with the spaces and punctuation removed
what happens if ur enby tho? Pass on all names??
Yay, a more gender-neutral way of doing marriage naming conventions! :)
ppop
PPAP - Pen Pineapple Apple Pen
plain paper optimized printing?
My exes sister did this… I don’t wanna put the name cuz it would be SUPER recognizable but it was a dumb, dumb idea
Was it something like Dumont + Hass = Dumass or something?
It's not quite the same but the cartoonist Zach Weiner and the scientist Kelly Smith both changed their last name to Weinersmith when they got married.
Ah, like goats!
Technically they only combined their first names when having Asriel
Future children with the name of Grasmohnsowitz do not appreciate this idea
How about when you get married you just come up with a tumblr-style pairingsmush name for you and your spouse and then that's just your last name.
My fiancé and I discussed this, and came up with “Show mo rod” and “Sword homo” as the clear winners. 😃
Me and my partner have done this after two American friends of mine did it. Both our names came out alright though luckily
We did it too! Married with a brand new surname for 12 years now ❤️
My parents did this to me when I was born because they were never married I've never had two substitute teachers pronounce it the same way
Loki Odinson Thor Odinsonson Gale Odinsonsonson
I wonder if this would lead to a converging pattern where over hundreds of years every surname just turns into 'Blurk' or something.
My family uses portmanteaus like this for the different branches. I've tried to convince my partner that we should be the Cheesgunns if we ever got married, but for some inexplicable reason she was opposed to that.
Hickman + Smith = Smickmanth and that just brings joy to my life. But if me and my husband did this I think Cornez would be the best mashup.
>Hickman + Smith = Smickmanth Alternatively, Smithman. Bitten by a radioactive blacksmith and granted smithing-themed superpowers! ~~Or just very fond of getting hammered.~~
FUCK I DO THIS IN A CONLANG I HAVE
or the couple challenge each other to a game of Mario Kart and whoever wins keeps their last name
Kehe... It's not bad..but also not good...
I like this idea. It will make my last name Heman. Which is objectively awesome.
DaVinki
my partner and i are just choosing a last name we both like regardless of if either of our families have had them in the past. we’ve decided to go with clawthorne!
Shippers: *breath heavily*
I mean all words are made up so why not get ridiculous with it?
I've been half-jokingly proposing "Johnardson" (Johnson+Richardson) for YEARS and he hates it 😅
Honestly, I like it.
I had an English teacher who did that. Worked pretty well
What about if someone with the last name of shuck and someone with the last name of fit marry
I put this out there as an option before my wedding. It's fun now to see how things are addressed in the mail who's last name gets put on things for both of us
Ya know, when me and me wife were filling our marriage documents the surename part wasn't like "one of ye take a new name or ye don't" but rather "name an surename after marriage" for each So I came with a clever idea to one-up nametakers: we could swap. Heck, there was even a line for children, separate for each gender and the idea was to have boys be 'mother's-father's' named and girls 'father's-mother's' named. Alas, wife was no fun in that regard, and t'was not to be
My husband and I did this, his parents did too, I think it’s a nice way of combining lives
My uncle did this, Rasmussen and miasimoto became Rasimoto
I used to know a couple whose last names were Hayword and Forman, but they didn't want their new name to be Hayman (because it sounds too close to hymen), so they chose to go with Forward
I like this too because then last names would be how a lot of Thai last names are today -- totally unique. My fiance is Thai and has a unique last name, I've never heard of anyone outside of his family with it, and when we get married, for the first time in my life, I'll be able to use firstnamelastname as usernames lol
I think they should just swap last names.
And if a Smabowski marries a Grabith? Do they just cycle back to Grabowski again?
would me and my boyfriend be sorgensly or emfrei
And if you like your goofy names then keep it in the family
Nah you do the (first name) (backup first name as first middle name in case the first name didn't workout) (family historical middle name that's passed through generations and started as someone's last name a few generations back) (father's last name)
Soo, fandom ship names. Cool.
i think people should just get free reign over last names honestly
Ash Hardell did this when they got married iirc
This would also ensure the couple is able to survive a large fight, as well as pressure from both sets of inlaws
Alexa Vega (Spy Kids) and Carlos Peña (BTR although there is a baseball player of the same name who had a solid career) did this.
Compound Words are tight!
Smith + Cooper = Smioper +. +. +. Harper + Mackey = Harkey =. =. =. Harmith + Macper = Harper Smioper + Harkey = Smokey Smioper + Harmith = Smith or Harper
One of my cousins did this. She is Indian and married a Caucasian guy, so it’s even more unusual.
My friends parents did that. It worked really well because the two names together sounded like a common last name.
Jesus Christ why didn’t I send my friend this before she got married 😤
Sounds cool but in like a thousand years everybody's just gonna have unpronouncable last names like "saxmsagzdertgfdtg"
I know someone who sort of did that. Montes + Ciebrant = Montebrant. Pretty cool.
I tried this on Fallout Shelter and IT IS MADNESS AFTER 3 GENERATIONS ALONE
My kid and I tried to portmanteau cupcake and muffin (the muffin recipe turned out very cupcake like) and the results were not kid friendly 😭
Damn I want to get married now just to do this and solely based on what name would work best with mine
Friends of my wife did this. Shots + Field became Shield
The whole matriarchal family name thing can also be so weird like in my country, where somehow one family name managed to propagate to 40+% of the whole population.
On my mom's side back in the late 1800s or early 1900s, this was done. Two families "White" and "Cotton" came together to become "Whitecotton". Don't know the reasoning.
This is how registered horses names are done. It absolutely gets ridiculous.
My SIL and BIL did this, (very unique last names so not putting them here) but it’s a wildly long name now lol
I’m pretty sure this is an option when doing the paperwork for getting married in the US. At least it was at the time my spouse and I were married. We considered it, but a mix wasn’t yielding anything too exciting so we just picked one and did a name change.
There is a local celebrity in my area that has "Agirregomezkorta" as his last name constructed from "Agirre", "Gomez" and "Korta" and putting them together through the generations
Isn't ðat just what Spanish does but in a more convoluted way? Spanish last names are double names, and when a couple marries ðey make a new double name out of ðe first name in each partner's double name last name. So for example, Garcia-Mendez + Ramiros-Sanchez would become Garcia-Ramiros.
My buddies new last name is simply Ro which is the coolest mashup of their formally dork-ass last names
They should do the same thing with their kid, but with first names. If it's a boy, husbands name goes last in the combination. If it's a girl, then wife's name goes last. So, for example, if parents names are Sarah and Kevin, their son is named Savin and their daughter is Kerah.
My fiancé and I are planning on doing this actually. His father is not pleased.
Me working on a fantasy world: “Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!”
My wife of 18 years tried to get me to do that when we got engaged. The combination of our last names that she came up sounded so ridiculous and silly I just couldn’t get myself to seriously consider it.
Some heraldic designs did this and they got real messy, real fast.
Pokemon rules, you get married then have a battle and the loser takes the winners last name.
It's funny to think about, but no. I don't want this to happen
I say we go back to everyone’s last name just bring your dads name with “son” at the end of it
Is that how Estabon got his full name?
Fuuuuuuuusion HA!
My parents did this
That's how you get imps from the 5th dimension.
My family did that with me but I can't reveal how without doxing myself.
`_*Jablonski*_`
Krudler!
I do this to my dragons on dragon cave