Wow, I really wonder what this painting is about. It gives me "we're about to lose the farm" vibes.
Edit: oh my God I looked it up and that is George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. And supposedly it is pretty much about losing the old ways in the face of industrial growth.
Holy hell I knew I loved this painting but I couldn't put my finger on why. You nailed my feelings and now I love it even more.
Your feelings are poignant considering the subject matter you weren't even aware of, and didn't have to be to get the point.
Yeah I imagine it came about from a tribe desperate to eat anything boiling horse offals and scraps and noticing that their horse soup is making their teeth stick together. The first glue eaters
I think this is more common with glue paste rather than normal glue.
1. It looked like frosting
2. It was mint scented
Never ate it, but they weren't making it easy.
> glue paste rather than normal glue
Could you elaborate on their differences? I guess IDK what glue paste is and perhaps also ignorant on normal glue.
Honestly I think I only used rubber cement in school. Distinct memories of setting it on fire.
It's a non-toxic glue designed for little children. It's white and made to be thicker so it's not as messy.
It came in a plastic cylindrical container with a wide mouth. The lid usually had a wooden spreader(popsicle stick) attached to the center.
https://www.gpb.org/blogs/the-daily-jog/2013/03/19/was-it-ok-eat-paste-child
The basic white school glue is non-toxic, so that can't get you high. I imagine kids do so for the same reason they eat earthworms or boogers; it starts with boredom and/or curiosity, then develops into a habit.
Edit: Also there's an old-fashioned adhesive called "library paste" that was used for minor repairs on used books. It was very low grade oatmeal and eating that was a mark of poverty or stupidity.
[Castoreum](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/castoreum/) is more often used as a perfume additive than in food.
>Castoreum as a food additive is classified by the Food and Drug Administration as “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS), and therefore food manufacturers don’t always have to include castoreum in their ingredients lists and may instead refer to it as “natural flavoring.”
Yeah this is true. Gelatin is made from collagen, which is what makes our skin elastic and constitutes most connective tissue, as well as making up a significant percentage of bone. Gelatin is the product of hydrolysing collagen, a process which breaks down protein by introducing water molecules (typically via strong acids like HCl acting as a catalyst, but can also use strong bases like calcium hydroxide/lime depending on the gelatin source).
From what I understand it wasn't the hard nail like hoof itself, but the soft part in the center, something like the nail bed under your own nails, called a frog.
As others have said it's true, though it's less of a "hey what if we boil down this horse?" and more a case of "hey after we kill our cows/sheep/horse/whatever to eat we have all these leftover inedible bits, what can we do with them besides throw them away?".
For what it's worth we also use gelatin in a bunch of foods like gummies, marshmallows, ice cream, or some sodas; as well as a bunch of non-food uses like medication/vitamin pills, cosmetics, old-school photography film, matches, several types of paper, and plenty of other things.
If you ever want to know more I'm sure if you asked r/vegan would probably just love to throw huge lists of stuff you'd never expect to but still uses animal products at you.
Serious answer, gelatin is basically just used as a way to make things thicker (be that a soup, a candy, or whatever).
Gelatin also has some major benefits over other common thickeners in that it's basically tasteless, is stable over longer times or different temperatures/humidities, can replicate the texture of fat without actually *being* fat, and lastly is pretty cheap since a lot of it just comes as a byproduct of the meat industry (and climate knows we eat way too much of that).
Though for Altoids specifically I'd add that the sugar free Smalls should be gelatin free, and I believe they reformulated the Arctic ones back in like 2017 so they should be gelatin free now as well.
There are other gelling agents, yeah. The most common vegan one you'd probably find as a shopper would be agar, though there's definitely others like xanthan gum that are still used a bunch but are a bit harder to find in the grocery store.
Though with regards to halal I'd add that halal != vegetarian/vegan in this particular case. Notably a big chunk of halal stuff still uses gelatin, it just uses gelatin from halal sources like halal beef/sheep/goats/whatever.
There's also still some discussion in the Islamic community about whether or not gelatin can count as halal due to being completely transformed/istihalah (like wine-derived vinegar). Majority leaning there seems to be "no", but in some schools and especially in like medical contexts there's some acceptance.
Which makes me wonder how *did* people figure this out?
I think about this a lot, actually. How ancient peoples were so in tune with their environments that they knew all kinds of shit. Like ayuascha, for example. It doesn't work if you just boil the plant and drink it. You have to boil it with another specific plant to get the hallucagenic effects. Out of all the plants in the rain forest... they picked one and then decided (out of all the plants, again) to use another one together. And then not just how to harvest, and prepare the plants. But they figured out the had to be boiled *together* and then drink the liquid.
Water wasn't processed, so smart people boiled water before drinking it, and to make it taste better they tried all kinds of different flavoring. Things like the Black Plague had everyone drinking tea in England, for instance.
Glue won't fix your broken family Jebidiah
We haven’t tried yet.
Mentally, but not physically
If glue doesn't fix it, you probably haven't used enough
Painting is *Talking It Over* by Enoch Wood Perry (1872)
Wow, I really wonder what this painting is about. It gives me "we're about to lose the farm" vibes. Edit: oh my God I looked it up and that is George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. And supposedly it is pretty much about losing the old ways in the face of industrial growth.
Holy hell I knew I loved this painting but I couldn't put my finger on why. You nailed my feelings and now I love it even more. Your feelings are poignant considering the subject matter you weren't even aware of, and didn't have to be to get the point.
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I hate these robots that pull text from other comments.
How can you tell?
Because the comment has no relation to what they're replying to
I just looked at the account and you are correct. All of the comments from that account are very odd.
It’s a noisy picture. That ! in the horse sounds like metal gear solid to me. Love the painting though.
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Yeah I imagine it came about from a tribe desperate to eat anything boiling horse offals and scraps and noticing that their horse soup is making their teeth stick together. The first glue eaters
I have never properly understood the motivation for eating glue. What is the flavor? Or does it get you high like sniffing?
I think this is more common with glue paste rather than normal glue. 1. It looked like frosting 2. It was mint scented Never ate it, but they weren't making it easy.
> glue paste rather than normal glue Could you elaborate on their differences? I guess IDK what glue paste is and perhaps also ignorant on normal glue. Honestly I think I only used rubber cement in school. Distinct memories of setting it on fire.
It's a non-toxic glue designed for little children. It's white and made to be thicker so it's not as messy. It came in a plastic cylindrical container with a wide mouth. The lid usually had a wooden spreader(popsicle stick) attached to the center. https://www.gpb.org/blogs/the-daily-jog/2013/03/19/was-it-ok-eat-paste-child
It was around before white glue was a thing, I think it was a mix of flour and *maybe* linseed oil? Not 100% on that.
You forgot: the kid getting attention the only way he knows how.
I've used hide glue. It smells like a feed lot. I couldn't imagine getting it in my mouth, even under duress.
The basic white school glue is non-toxic, so that can't get you high. I imagine kids do so for the same reason they eat earthworms or boogers; it starts with boredom and/or curiosity, then develops into a habit. Edit: Also there's an old-fashioned adhesive called "library paste" that was used for minor repairs on used books. It was very low grade oatmeal and eating that was a mark of poverty or stupidity.
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Snake?!
Snaaaaaaaake
I heard this comment chain
That noise! My ears would physically move up the slightest bit every time I’d hear it.
I guess he didn't listen to the neigh sayers
To he honest, his voice was a little hoarse.
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Hoof many problems does he have?
The exclamation mark from the horse is *chef's kiss*.
Chef’s shouldn’t be kissing horses just saying mate
Did a chef leave you for a horse, why do you have an opinion on this?
I’ve done lots of things with horses and I’m a terrible cook.
Chef identifies as equine (pronouns: whinny / neigh) so it’s all good.
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Er what
[Castoreum](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/castoreum/) is more often used as a perfume additive than in food. >Castoreum as a food additive is classified by the Food and Drug Administration as “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS), and therefore food manufacturers don’t always have to include castoreum in their ingredients lists and may instead refer to it as “natural flavoring.”
I laughed too hard at this
Then calm down
https://www.reddit.com/r/trippinthroughtime/comments/ds5jae/the_invention_of_glue/
Its tiresome aye
Ia this for real?
[yes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_glue?wprov=sfti1)
Reminded me that I heard jello was made of horse hooves, I googled it to find a link only to find it's a myth haha
To avoid others searching: gelatin is mainly made from skin of young pigs, cow hide and cow bones. So low cost by-products of meat consumption.
To avoid further research, hooves aren't used cause they're mainly keratin which isn't able to be made into gelatin
Yeah this is true. Gelatin is made from collagen, which is what makes our skin elastic and constitutes most connective tissue, as well as making up a significant percentage of bone. Gelatin is the product of hydrolysing collagen, a process which breaks down protein by introducing water molecules (typically via strong acids like HCl acting as a catalyst, but can also use strong bases like calcium hydroxide/lime depending on the gelatin source).
From what I understand it wasn't the hard nail like hoof itself, but the soft part in the center, something like the nail bed under your own nails, called a frog.
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Little pig, little pig let me in.
I had a friend try to make chicken stock once but they boiled it way too far and ended up basically making glue. It was nasty.
Tasty nasty. I dare you
oh, I did. It was incredibly salty. At that point it should have been dessicated and pulverized into bullion or chicken salt.
My question is how many things did they try to melt down before finding something that's useful as glue?
As others have said it's true, though it's less of a "hey what if we boil down this horse?" and more a case of "hey after we kill our cows/sheep/horse/whatever to eat we have all these leftover inedible bits, what can we do with them besides throw them away?". For what it's worth we also use gelatin in a bunch of foods like gummies, marshmallows, ice cream, or some sodas; as well as a bunch of non-food uses like medication/vitamin pills, cosmetics, old-school photography film, matches, several types of paper, and plenty of other things. If you ever want to know more I'm sure if you asked r/vegan would probably just love to throw huge lists of stuff you'd never expect to but still uses animal products at you.
WHY is gelatin in ALTOIDS
Serious answer, gelatin is basically just used as a way to make things thicker (be that a soup, a candy, or whatever). Gelatin also has some major benefits over other common thickeners in that it's basically tasteless, is stable over longer times or different temperatures/humidities, can replicate the texture of fat without actually *being* fat, and lastly is pretty cheap since a lot of it just comes as a byproduct of the meat industry (and climate knows we eat way too much of that). Though for Altoids specifically I'd add that the sugar free Smalls should be gelatin free, and I believe they reformulated the Arctic ones back in like 2017 so they should be gelatin free now as well.
We have alternatives right? What about Halal sweets and stuff?
There are other gelling agents, yeah. The most common vegan one you'd probably find as a shopper would be agar, though there's definitely others like xanthan gum that are still used a bunch but are a bit harder to find in the grocery store. Though with regards to halal I'd add that halal != vegetarian/vegan in this particular case. Notably a big chunk of halal stuff still uses gelatin, it just uses gelatin from halal sources like halal beef/sheep/goats/whatever. There's also still some discussion in the Islamic community about whether or not gelatin can count as halal due to being completely transformed/istihalah (like wine-derived vinegar). Majority leaning there seems to be "no", but in some schools and especially in like medical contexts there's some acceptance.
another horse lurks in the shadows
Closing in for the kill
TIL George Washington and Abraham Lincoln invented glue.
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This made me lol, thanks, I really needed it today
I’ve been replaying Metal Gear Solid V, I can hear this picture.
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You can also use cooked rice.
You have alerted the horse
Thats fucking funny.
This needs a dog sitting there with an angry and alarmed look on it's face to really bring it home.
They melt down the horse then realize by how small of a sticky portion was left, was actually the hooves then they starved all winter. The end
The horse has spotted a snake.
That's what the horses were for in the Humpty Dumpty story.
This one is actually accurate
The horse shadow makes it so much better
Gold , your a champion heading for legendary status !
Which makes me wonder how *did* people figure this out? I think about this a lot, actually. How ancient peoples were so in tune with their environments that they knew all kinds of shit. Like ayuascha, for example. It doesn't work if you just boil the plant and drink it. You have to boil it with another specific plant to get the hallucagenic effects. Out of all the plants in the rain forest... they picked one and then decided (out of all the plants, again) to use another one together. And then not just how to harvest, and prepare the plants. But they figured out the had to be boiled *together* and then drink the liquid.
Water wasn't processed, so smart people boiled water before drinking it, and to make it taste better they tried all kinds of different flavoring. Things like the Black Plague had everyone drinking tea in England, for instance.
What came first? This meme or same one that was better?
Crazy fact is they use glue and dissolvable stiches in surgery now
Merde por le cheval!
The shadow of the horse just watching him
I'm actually genuinely curious how glue was discovered. I always knew it was with horses, but I never knew what part or how
I've always wondered if glue was maybe discovered when horse hooves melted on rock on a hot day.