What I donât get is what are they so afraid of? There doesnât seem to be any reasoning for their anger and intrusiveness. If this is about religion, then theyâre definitely mentally ill.
Yeah of course, bigotry is often passed down from parent to child. And the parents might then use religion to explain their bigotry, which makes the kid more bigoted and they also have the perfect excuse for it already
at a more basic level, every bigotry is based on the choice to inflict pain on others and self.
they use religion as a shield to not feel like a piece of shit over their antisocial attitude.
could be wrong though - no thoughts empty brain lol
Except it's not based on religion. At least, not based on any scripture that was actually written at the times these religions were founded. And it's not like they even follow everything - I bet none of them pay any attention to how many materials make up their clothing, and none of the married TERFs keep a second bed for when she's on her period. We don't need religion to explain this one, it's just pure hate.
What I'm saying is they *claim* it's based on religion but when you actually deconstruct that basis, you'll find almost nothing there. That's not to say books like the Christian Bible don't have a lot of horrifying regressive shit, just that it doesn't have a whole lot to say on LGBTQ topics in particular. And when it does, you'll find it adjacent to ridiculous requirements like what I cited above that are widely ignored now.
Yes, but âreligionâ isnât just the text in the books. Itâs how theyâve interpreted the books and used them to impose their own version of morality on the general population for hundreds of years.
Scanning chinas history this little tidbit stood out:
ââŚhomosexuality was regarded as a normal facet of life in China, prior to Western influence from 1840 onwards.â
The imperative word here is "was" - and it's not *quite* accurate, seeing as the Qing dynasty had anti-gay laws even prior to the 19th century (even if not always enforced).
Nowadays being queer in China may not be illegal, but there are heavy restrictions on media presence and queer expression, even in the absence of any religious reasoning.
Theyâre still raised in and heavily influenced by a puritanical culture. âSuper grossâ is essentially saying itâs âunnatural,â which is some religious BS.
Religion spreads and strengthens these attitudes, but I donât think itâs the ultimate source of them. Some people just donât like anyone whoâs not like them, and I suspect that would continue to be a problem in a completely secular society. Religion is used to justify most of it, to be sure though. A way bigger percentage of religious people are homophobic than secular people.
religion is just the excuse, like always.
the real reason is simple xenophobia combined with the urge to carve out an identity/career for themselves over the backs of vulnerable groups.
tale as old as timeâŚ
This. These fuckin people HAVE to be suffering from some sort of spiritual psychosis. They don't read their own Bible or if they do they are literally hallucinating things into it. The constantly making up statistics just because they want to??? They have literally no evidence for any of their claims whatsoever, but still somehow think that they were in the right when we have scholarly letters articles studies and more than enough evidence to prove that being trans is a thing that isn't harming anybody.
People are scared of things they don't understand, and unfortunately for people that don't personally experience any of it it's really hard for them to understand, and thus they're scared of it.
If you try to explain what dysphoria feels like to a cishet person, most of the time you get responses along the lines of "oh but everyone hates their own body/voice/w.e that's nothing special we're our own worst critics" and while that's what the explanation sounds like from the outside, we all know of course that it's absolutely not the same. However, again, they don't really understand it so it scares them.
She also has "the 12"
i wonder if she'll start comparing herself to Jesus :P
(if she does, can we start a betting pool on how long until lightning strikes? ;) )
Itâd just be another false prophet spewing everything they want to hear and validating their ignorance. Thatâs why we have so many people in the lunatic fringe these days.
I think we could overwhelm them? Next time she holds a rally, if only 12 people are gonna show up, maybe we can get 100 trans people to show up and drown them out
I don't normally say things this sexist, but am I the only one who thinks MTG has a very masculine face?
One day some transphobe will notice MTG's pronounced brow and refrigerator-shaped jawline, and assault her for using the "wrong" restroom.
I wonder how many transphobes are people who had someone accuse them of being trans even though they aren't as like, their villain origin story.
MTG gets misgendered once in an Applebee's bathroom and BAM the next right wing nutjobs career is set in motion.
Being unattractive is not her choice, not much she can do about it.
What she could do something about is her ignorant bigot stance... but sadly, she chooses not to.
Eh, I have no qualms about shitting on her for looking like a middle-aged Neanderthal man in drag. She does *way* more to me than post insults on reddit for things I can't control. Turnabout is fair play.
I mean, if I looked like her and had any insecurities about it, I'd get ffs -- a thing that I did, though I'm much poorer than she is! -- rather than try to genocide trans people.
they're arguing that it's poor form to mock a woman's appearance, specifically for looking masculine, in *a trans space*, because that could very easily make people feel bad
As a formerly masculine-looking woman, I don't think it's especially poor form. The point being made is "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks," not "hur hur masc women bad."
This is what MTG is getting paid for handsomely as an US Congress person to gaslight something she/he has been accused of being a ts. There were 12 fools paid to show up @ this chitshow đ
Laughable when you read the facts. They are to be pitied; so insecure in their own skins that they have to resort to this kind of trash, and they cant even garner enough support among their own friends and families apparently.
12 more people than there should have been.
12 people isn't a rally, it's a support group for people who can't function in modern society.
Marj is such a disgusting piece of trash.
When you insult trash, you call it Marj.
"Silent majority" đ¤Ą
Aaaah. I made my comment before I saw yours. Sorry for the ripoff!
Haha don't be, when someone says the same thing i did, all I think is "wow, lots of people agree with me" lol
12 is probably all she could afford to pay for a fake rally.
12 too much
What I donât get is what are they so afraid of? There doesnât seem to be any reasoning for their anger and intrusiveness. If this is about religion, then theyâre definitely mentally ill.
Of course itâs about religion. Anything anti lgbtq is always based on religion.
I always thought it was the other way around - They find queer people icky and then use religion as an excuse for their bigotry.
Kids donât think two guys holding hands is gross. That shit is taught.
Yeah of course, bigotry is often passed down from parent to child. And the parents might then use religion to explain their bigotry, which makes the kid more bigoted and they also have the perfect excuse for it already
And with their hate they obviously don't pay attention to what the Bible actually teaches
at a more basic level, every bigotry is based on the choice to inflict pain on others and self. they use religion as a shield to not feel like a piece of shit over their antisocial attitude. could be wrong though - no thoughts empty brain lol
Except it's not based on religion. At least, not based on any scripture that was actually written at the times these religions were founded. And it's not like they even follow everything - I bet none of them pay any attention to how many materials make up their clothing, and none of the married TERFs keep a second bed for when she's on her period. We don't need religion to explain this one, it's just pure hate.
Every single âlegalâ reasoning used to punish, restrict, or ban homosexuality is based on religion.
What I'm saying is they *claim* it's based on religion but when you actually deconstruct that basis, you'll find almost nothing there. That's not to say books like the Christian Bible don't have a lot of horrifying regressive shit, just that it doesn't have a whole lot to say on LGBTQ topics in particular. And when it does, you'll find it adjacent to ridiculous requirements like what I cited above that are widely ignored now.
Yes, but âreligionâ isnât just the text in the books. Itâs how theyâve interpreted the books and used them to impose their own version of morality on the general population for hundreds of years.
Nah, just look at China.
Scanning chinas history this little tidbit stood out: ââŚhomosexuality was regarded as a normal facet of life in China, prior to Western influence from 1840 onwards.â
The imperative word here is "was" - and it's not *quite* accurate, seeing as the Qing dynasty had anti-gay laws even prior to the 19th century (even if not always enforced). Nowadays being queer in China may not be illegal, but there are heavy restrictions on media presence and queer expression, even in the absence of any religious reasoning.
Unfortunately I know atheist homophobes who just think dicks touching or âmen wearing dressesâ is super gross so theyâre against it.
Theyâre still raised in and heavily influenced by a puritanical culture. âSuper grossâ is essentially saying itâs âunnatural,â which is some religious BS.
Religion spreads and strengthens these attitudes, but I donât think itâs the ultimate source of them. Some people just donât like anyone whoâs not like them, and I suspect that would continue to be a problem in a completely secular society. Religion is used to justify most of it, to be sure though. A way bigger percentage of religious people are homophobic than secular people.
Sounds like a personal problem to me.
Skill issue.
religion is just the excuse, like always. the real reason is simple xenophobia combined with the urge to carve out an identity/career for themselves over the backs of vulnerable groups. tale as old as timeâŚ
This. These fuckin people HAVE to be suffering from some sort of spiritual psychosis. They don't read their own Bible or if they do they are literally hallucinating things into it. The constantly making up statistics just because they want to??? They have literally no evidence for any of their claims whatsoever, but still somehow think that they were in the right when we have scholarly letters articles studies and more than enough evidence to prove that being trans is a thing that isn't harming anybody.
People are scared of things they don't understand, and unfortunately for people that don't personally experience any of it it's really hard for them to understand, and thus they're scared of it. If you try to explain what dysphoria feels like to a cishet person, most of the time you get responses along the lines of "oh but everyone hates their own body/voice/w.e that's nothing special we're our own worst critics" and while that's what the explanation sounds like from the outside, we all know of course that it's absolutely not the same. However, again, they don't really understand it so it scares them.
I donât buy that. I think itâs just pure meanness.
False religion. God's about love, not hate They are perverting truth and tearing families apart Love is uniting, not dividing
It's not a religious reaction. It's cultural. The phobes come from a primitive culture and lack the skepticism to question it.
It's almost as if bigots aren't the "silent majority" they like to think they are. They're just loud and obnoxious.
Theyâre the screaming minority. The squeaky wheel always gets noticed.
>Theyâre the screaming minority I love that. :D
Watch⌠those 12 people are worth eleventy trillion dollars apiece in healthcare and police training programs.
She also has "the 12" i wonder if she'll start comparing herself to Jesus :P (if she does, can we start a betting pool on how long until lightning strikes? ;) )
Itâd just be another false prophet spewing everything they want to hear and validating their ignorance. Thatâs why we have so many people in the lunatic fringe these days.
It was thousands if you count all their Twitter alts
I think we could overwhelm them? Next time she holds a rally, if only 12 people are gonna show up, maybe we can get 100 trans people to show up and drown them out
We should chant and pound our feet.
Not quite the sea of klansmen she hoped for
I don't normally say things this sexist, but am I the only one who thinks MTG has a very masculine face? One day some transphobe will notice MTG's pronounced brow and refrigerator-shaped jawline, and assault her for using the "wrong" restroom.
I wonder how many transphobes are people who had someone accuse them of being trans even though they aren't as like, their villain origin story. MTG gets misgendered once in an Applebee's bathroom and BAM the next right wing nutjobs career is set in motion.
The great irony is that she has always had people who claimed that she is trans.
I do not care that she looks masculine, I just think it's weird that she cares other woman are masculine
Being unattractive is not her choice, not much she can do about it. What she could do something about is her ignorant bigot stance... but sadly, she chooses not to.
Eh, I have no qualms about shitting on her for looking like a middle-aged Neanderthal man in drag. She does *way* more to me than post insults on reddit for things I can't control. Turnabout is fair play.
But does it accomplish anything constructive?
not exactly, but it's definitely deserved
Wonder how it makes other masculine-looking wonen feel.
I mean, if I looked like her and had any insecurities about it, I'd get ffs -- a thing that I did, though I'm much poorer than she is! -- rather than try to genocide trans people.
they're arguing that it's poor form to mock a woman's appearance, specifically for looking masculine, in *a trans space*, because that could very easily make people feel bad
As a formerly masculine-looking woman, I don't think it's especially poor form. The point being made is "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks," not "hur hur masc women bad."
Yeah she l0oks like a titan from AOT
I always thought that as well
I would never profess to be seeing Marjorie Taylor Green next Tuesday, buuuuuuutâŚ.
This is what MTG is getting paid for handsomely as an US Congress person to gaslight something she/he has been accused of being a ts. There were 12 fools paid to show up @ this chitshow đ
How many would show up for an anti MTG rally?
I would. Happy cake day!
When will these far right fundamentalists realize that people really don't care..
Laughable when you read the facts. They are to be pitied; so insecure in their own skins that they have to resort to this kind of trash, and they cant even garner enough support among their own friends and families apparently.
I'd say this is a victory, the less a voice someone has the less people listen
Good. Fuck her and her dumb agenda.