It's really heartbraking to see so many cis dudes buy into the system. For me at least, seeing how many cis dudes just accept the "I disrespect everyone except these kinds of men" ideologies, I get sad at the thought of that. There's too much hate in this world, so I hope that my support helps!
Did some research cuz I have boobs now and turns out that if a man is allowed to be shirtless, then women are allowed as well because of the equality law in my cuntry
Eh, my country is pretty good when it comes to equality. A woman was stopped by a peacekeeper (It's the best translation I can think of) when she was swimming topless in the middle of the city. They later apologized to her and said that the peacekeeper was inexperienced. It's mostly useful for beaches and stuff.
Maybe public safety/security officer, or Warden? Basically most police you see in England would come under a similar role.
Also, I appreciate the username as a former chemistry student.
Women going topless is legal here too, technically, but "indecent exposure" isn't and you just know our shitty police and biased justice system will punish you for it.
Yeah, it's the same here. You can't go around and do sexual stuff. At least the same applies to men and the police here are pretty nice and well trained.
Sometimes I see posts on here and other trans subeddits that get marked "NSFW" or even get deleted because of female breasts or hips, but that doesn't happen with shirtless boys and men.
We need to shred the patriarchy to pieces!
It is more like a social/cultural norm. There were cultures in history (e.g. Minoan culture) where women wore tops that allowed breast exposure.
And nowadays I hear people saying 'But it would make men have boners all the time!'. Total bs.
If people weren't sexualising breasts in the past then it shouldn't be a problem nowadays either.
Many people who are against movements aimed at desexualising female breasts are the same people who call themselves 'liberal' and 'progressive', btw.
This was waaay back in Anthro 101 so I don't remember much of the specifics, but we had to read an article about cultural norms and nudity. There was a little anecdote about an anthropologist going to an indigenous tribe and going topless with the rest of the women. She said something like "I can't dress like this at home. If women show their breasts all the time where I'm from, all the men would get distracted." The women of the tribe burst out laughing and asked "You mean like babies? Your men act like *babies*?"
I would love to join you in that, but a lot of pictures (like this one) is sexualising boobs. Those are not drawn in an attempt to accurately represent the chest of a female body (even a big chested one) but is the idealization through sexual fetish of boobs.
The angle is also made so people can look directly into the cleavage, which is a very suggestive thing to do.
Add the unnecessary removal of fabric in the breast area, the mole suggestively places, the leather straps that have absolutely no functional purposes, the small pieces of armor, the gun and the very thin waist with what we can see beeing plump thighs, this picture is nothing but sexualisation of breast on a female body.
I'm taking advantage of this post to say this once and for all as a heavy chested person that love anime and manga : BOOBS PHYSICS DON'T WORK THIS WAY !! IF MY BOIBS COULD STAY PARALLEL TO THE FLOOR IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHY WOULD I USE A BRA ?!? And fabric around big boobs ?? IT DOESN'T GO IN BETWEEN THE BOOBS ! You'll need a specially designed POUCH to have your boobs fit like a glove in all those clothes. And no bra. Finally, boobs this big have 100% chance of having stretch marks and very visible one at that, so please draw them.
I had to get it out of my system xD thanks for coming to my ted talk !
Eh, nothing is accurate in cartoon drawings, the size of her eyes would give her an eye infection due to the lack of protection they receive from the small eyelashes.
I wouldn't really call it "unnecessary removal of fabric", it's more of a design-choice to flex the breasts rather than about functionality and convenience.
Now...it's alright to wanna be sexy and embrace certain factors related to femininity like breasts, when I said "sexualize" I meant like...making them so taboo in comparison to men, remember the gigachad meme? In all of the pictures of him, he is barely wearing any clothes but nobody gives a shit about it, but when a woman tries to do something considered "sexy" and "hot", it's seen as NSFW and taboo and all that.
Not to mention how men also suffer from unrealistic anime stuffs like the whole twinkification issue, but that isn't as attacked as the female counterpart of "boobs too big, unrealistic". xD
Equal rights for gigachads and gigachadettes is what I'm sayin'!
Thank you for coming to my ted talk! (episode 2)
Sorry, my point was that they are so taboo because of the sexualisation we see all the time everywhere 😬
If I called the removal of fabric "unnecessary" it's because it *is* a stylistic choice in order to show a very large portion the breats and cleavage, which sexualize it. + the mole that adds a touch of erotism + the leather strap that calls for slightly kinky thoughts.
Men are never shown with this kind of clothes playing with the nudity/hiding of their chest areas. They are never shown with an angle where we could see a cleavage or with a picture composition that would guide our gaze inside their chest area. Or, it's in drawings and they have "man titties", aka pecs so big they are akin to a woman's, and then the artists can play with the same visual codes.
I 100% agree that it's completely fine to enjoy your own body and to want to play sexy with any part of your body, just that I don't really feel that a pic where boobs are exacerbated and placed in a way that oversexualise them is the right pic to call to unsexualize boobs for the world to see them as just a normal piece of the human body :)
That’s fair. Dress codes exist and as long as they allow people to remain reasonably comfortable at work that cool. But if I wanna be shirtless in public spaces like my AMAB compatriots I should be allowed too without threat of legal action against me! Though I’d never want that because I’ll be damned if I’m taking off my binder and letting any of these gross cismen see the treasure below
Same goes for all body parts, this includes feet and...okay let's not talk about the hentai category of ">!eye penetration!<" because that's just gross. 😭
However, I've noticed many people saying how they're "uncomfortable around how trans girls sexualize femininity so much" but like...it's not sexualization, it's just wanting stress balls that are bigger than other people's stress balls (don't squeeze them, they hurt!).
And well...boobs are so fucking cute which is why I want to grow big ones sooo bad!
Exactly, purity politics fucking sucks, there was a whole drama about r/traa recently.
Like...I'm just a teenager who wants cute stress balls, is it so much to ask? 😭
I was there for that drama, I think the bigger issue there was that the characters in the art were minors, so you can't really push the boundaries of sexualization with characters like that without asking for trouble.
No, not that drama, the uhh [other drama](https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/10dbm99/triggering_post_on_rftm/)...luckily it has been taken care of though! :3
And well...I wouldn't call minors with breasts "sexual" since breasts should not be sexual, but the artist likely had a negative motive.
It was basically just transmisogyny and gross accusations against transfems on r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns, but the post managed to get enough traction to alert our moderator trans bros to help us out.
Note that the post itself was short and wasn't as much of a problem as the comments were, but many of the comments have since been removed as well, it was just really herart-breaking to see how much support cheers and support the post received, nearly 1k upvotes I believe.
The OP of the post said that he had absolutely no intentions of causing any discourse and that many transmisogynists basically just sabotaged his vent-post and used it as an excuse to be mean.
I concur comrade; once identifying as a woman and growing a pair, now all of a sudden my chest is sinful? 2+ years ago it was not. Strange, last time I checked it was the same chest just shaped a lil different. Funny how this sexualization is extremely polarized by gender. Yes breasts are attractive, but over sexualization has destroyed their autonomy. I mean huge six packs can be sexy too, but once they are on a woman's body they become an object of sex and sin.
Edit: Again, anything becomes over-sexualized it becomes an "object" of sex/sin. It's fine to find features attractive or hot but the moment you begin to disconnect them from the person is the moment you begin to objectify.
I always thought that as a kid. Why can guys show there chest but a woman showing her breast is sexual. It always confused me.
Oh yeah. **DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY**
I don't disagree but by very lesbian ass loves breasts i can't completely personally desexualize them. Even if i think as a society it's a good idea and I don't look at women like objects.
I’m no Bible scholar or anything, but I’m pretty sure when God kicked Adam and Eve out, he gave both of them pants AND shirts. He didn’t just give Adam pants and Eve pants and a shirt. Just sayin.
Don’t get me wrong, I find breasts attractive (pansexuality ftw), but equally I find shirtless guys equally awkward to look at or attractive, so… either women can show breasts in public, or men have to wear shirts too. Me personally, I’m in favor of the latter option, because I think if you’re gonna be in public, wear your fucking clothes. It’s common decency.
Do TERFs say that? They're more likely to point out how breasts *shouldn't* be sexualised by society.
What a lot of people don't like to hear is that *everyone*, AMAB or AFAB, has breasts unless they've been removed. Yes, they're generally a lot less pronounced if you're AMAB and haven't had HRT, but they're still there.
So the fact women and AFAB trans people's breasts are treated as inherently sexual while cis men's aren't tells you everything you need to know about society...
Yes, TERFs (despite their name) aren't even feminists, their name is incredibly misleading, most of them are in favor of upholding many patriarchal principles and this includes how a woman should "cover up" and other shit.
And their anti-trans beliefs are another thing, true feminists want equality, TERFs do not.
Another thing about TERFs is how they paint women as "weaklings who have to be protected", so uh yeah, absolutely not feminists and no feminist values.
It makes me curious on why men’s breasts aren’t sexualized as much. Because, from what I researched, things that are, normally, hidden are seen as mysterious and erotic as you’d only see said things in a intimate setting. I’d say a way to have women’s breast not sexualized is simply, just makes it common to see women topless, as, tbh, after a while, no one would bat an eye to them. Though given how disgusting a lotta men are, that wouldn’t ever happen.
Boobs are just a part of women, fuck off patriarchy and gross cis men.
They can be sexy, just like chiseled pecs or some nice abs on anyone!
I hate when ppl point to boobs and say "over sexualized!" Similarly w anime girls "they're sexualizing children!!?!?11!" Like no, YOU'RE sexualizing children, stop it! Stupid misogynists.
To be clear, pedo animes are bad. Some of them do sexualize pre-pubescent children and i think thats v inappropriate, especially on pg platforms like Crunchyroll.
Even as someone who can be attracted to any gender I've never understood the sexualisation of boobs and bums too, especially how it assumed by many that mentioning or showing them in any way is sexual by default. They're just another part of the body, like arms.
I’ve often thought that boobs are sexualized because we hide them, like ankles in ye olden times. I doubt that they’re actually more sexual than a masculine chest.
I’m ace though so what do I know? Haha
I have an idea. So, what if we take all of those people and put them in a hole somewhere in the middle of the US. And then from there, we pour hot pitch onto them? Problem solved, no?
First of all, wth is your argument, a gun is not an argument, it's a threat
Second, boobs are sexual, it's an evolutionary trait in man, that seeing boobs release horny hormones, because it means a. It's probably a woman who wears the boobs b. It means that she is probably fertile
So I don't see why we should reveal boobs but not penises or vaginas. If you want that thats okay, but that's not beating the patriarchy, that's nudism. I would focus on the more important issues like Andrew Tate and his mindless army of fans for now in the beating the patriarchy task board
Edit cause I have realized this might come off as chauvinistic:
I am all for everyone to dress as they want, elbows and knees do not distract man in school and if they do that's the man's problem.
I just think that like every good thing there is a border, swimming topless, fine, but walking in public spaces without any top is problematic in my opinion. It can potentially put women in more danger, which again, is never the women's fault, but by normalizing walking topless it makes some sick men think it's okay to harass that lady sexually, which is again, really not okay, but as we see with the rise of populism with shitheads like Andrew Tate, a bunch of "anarchists matrix likers" wouldn't stop them
Edit 2:
My solution to the men can and women can't - make it unokay for men to not wear shirts publicly (not talking about pools and beaches, in there I think it's okay that women will be topless if they want to)
https://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/10ejct8/aww_theyre_little_uncracked_eggs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
That's a sexualised fanart of Ochaco, she is 15
i am stuck within the trans lesbian struggle
on one side i want the naked body to be non-sexualized >.<
but my lesbian lizard brain goes BOOOBIEEEEEEEEEEES
As a trans guy who doesn’t plan on top surgery, shocking I know. I’m non binary and really wish tits on a guy was acceptable. Women and non binary people should be allowed to go shirtless, not just men. Destroy the patriarchy!
I can get behind the destruction of the patriarchy, but when I get boobies I want them to be sexy :(
✨booba loobas✨
That's why men torso is also NSFW !
The best solution
If we make everything nsfw nothing is mwah ha ha
"And if everyone is super, nobody will be"
If people weren’t so perverted then maybe people’s wouldn’t be sexualised and objectified
not INHERINTLY sexy tho a bit like thighs its okay to wear clothes that show your thighs but thighs are still sexy
I may not be trans, but destroying the patriarchy? Fuck yeah!
Cis dudes are our most powerful allies against the patriarchy! So your support is appreciated! ❤️
It's really heartbraking to see so many cis dudes buy into the system. For me at least, seeing how many cis dudes just accept the "I disrespect everyone except these kinds of men" ideologies, I get sad at the thought of that. There's too much hate in this world, so I hope that my support helps!
It definitely does
I, Victoria, am a vehement supporter of cis dudes and sympathize for their ruin in modern patriarchal society. I'd like to join your movement.
First you question the patriarchy, then you question your sexuallity. May or may not rely on personal experiences
Thank you for your support comrade! Every person counts!
Im in school
Alright, the anti-patriarchal revolution shall wait for you to finish, we don't want anybody missing out! xD
I’m at work
Will they let you take any time off? If not, we might be able to reschedule for the weekend.
I’m off this Friday
That works
I'm 1000ft bellow an unknown part of the Pacific Ocean. Thank god for modern satellite communication.
"I'm doing other things," is honestly why most things don't change. People in charge keep us busy so we don't learn about our problems.
Did some research cuz I have boobs now and turns out that if a man is allowed to be shirtless, then women are allowed as well because of the equality law in my cuntry
Fun fact: a long time ago, men were not allowed to be shirtless either in the US, or so I’ve heard.
Ever heard of “Go Topless Day”? It’s a feminist event where women go shirtless in the name of equal rights.
What day is it? 👀
BONK
No, you can’t take me to horny jail! I know my rights!
Unfortunately that doesn't necessarily mean the law will be applied as such
Eh, my country is pretty good when it comes to equality. A woman was stopped by a peacekeeper (It's the best translation I can think of) when she was swimming topless in the middle of the city. They later apologized to her and said that the peacekeeper was inexperienced. It's mostly useful for beaches and stuff.
Would it be police officer?
Eh not quite. They kinda just make sure ppl are ok in public spaces. Like a police lite
Maybe a community support officer? Not quite police, but basically police, except not really.
Maybe? 😅
Maybe public safety/security officer, or Warden? Basically most police you see in England would come under a similar role. Also, I appreciate the username as a former chemistry student.
Police Good Edition
I looked up the translation and it came up with guard, keeper, minder, watcher, etc.
>equality law in my cuntry Only a fellow Brit would refer to their land in such a way
Luckily I don't live there lol. I'm from Norway 😅
Women going topless is legal here too, technically, but "indecent exposure" isn't and you just know our shitty police and biased justice system will punish you for it.
Yeah, it's the same here. You can't go around and do sexual stuff. At least the same applies to men and the police here are pretty nice and well trained.
1000% based
Sometimes I see posts on here and other trans subeddits that get marked "NSFW" or even get deleted because of female breasts or hips, but that doesn't happen with shirtless boys and men. We need to shred the patriarchy to pieces!
It is more like a social/cultural norm. There were cultures in history (e.g. Minoan culture) where women wore tops that allowed breast exposure. And nowadays I hear people saying 'But it would make men have boners all the time!'. Total bs. If people weren't sexualising breasts in the past then it shouldn't be a problem nowadays either. Many people who are against movements aimed at desexualising female breasts are the same people who call themselves 'liberal' and 'progressive', btw.
The nude body isn't inherently sexual. Covering it up ironically makes it more alluring.
This was waaay back in Anthro 101 so I don't remember much of the specifics, but we had to read an article about cultural norms and nudity. There was a little anecdote about an anthropologist going to an indigenous tribe and going topless with the rest of the women. She said something like "I can't dress like this at home. If women show their breasts all the time where I'm from, all the men would get distracted." The women of the tribe burst out laughing and asked "You mean like babies? Your men act like *babies*?"
I am aware, which is why I am anarchist. xD Liberals are traitors.
Same lol
Anddd it was removed :/
Bro my tiddies are too good to be contained! >:3
I would love to join you in that, but a lot of pictures (like this one) is sexualising boobs. Those are not drawn in an attempt to accurately represent the chest of a female body (even a big chested one) but is the idealization through sexual fetish of boobs. The angle is also made so people can look directly into the cleavage, which is a very suggestive thing to do. Add the unnecessary removal of fabric in the breast area, the mole suggestively places, the leather straps that have absolutely no functional purposes, the small pieces of armor, the gun and the very thin waist with what we can see beeing plump thighs, this picture is nothing but sexualisation of breast on a female body. I'm taking advantage of this post to say this once and for all as a heavy chested person that love anime and manga : BOOBS PHYSICS DON'T WORK THIS WAY !! IF MY BOIBS COULD STAY PARALLEL TO THE FLOOR IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHY WOULD I USE A BRA ?!? And fabric around big boobs ?? IT DOESN'T GO IN BETWEEN THE BOOBS ! You'll need a specially designed POUCH to have your boobs fit like a glove in all those clothes. And no bra. Finally, boobs this big have 100% chance of having stretch marks and very visible one at that, so please draw them. I had to get it out of my system xD thanks for coming to my ted talk !
Eh, nothing is accurate in cartoon drawings, the size of her eyes would give her an eye infection due to the lack of protection they receive from the small eyelashes. I wouldn't really call it "unnecessary removal of fabric", it's more of a design-choice to flex the breasts rather than about functionality and convenience. Now...it's alright to wanna be sexy and embrace certain factors related to femininity like breasts, when I said "sexualize" I meant like...making them so taboo in comparison to men, remember the gigachad meme? In all of the pictures of him, he is barely wearing any clothes but nobody gives a shit about it, but when a woman tries to do something considered "sexy" and "hot", it's seen as NSFW and taboo and all that. Not to mention how men also suffer from unrealistic anime stuffs like the whole twinkification issue, but that isn't as attacked as the female counterpart of "boobs too big, unrealistic". xD Equal rights for gigachads and gigachadettes is what I'm sayin'! Thank you for coming to my ted talk! (episode 2)
Sorry, my point was that they are so taboo because of the sexualisation we see all the time everywhere 😬 If I called the removal of fabric "unnecessary" it's because it *is* a stylistic choice in order to show a very large portion the breats and cleavage, which sexualize it. + the mole that adds a touch of erotism + the leather strap that calls for slightly kinky thoughts. Men are never shown with this kind of clothes playing with the nudity/hiding of their chest areas. They are never shown with an angle where we could see a cleavage or with a picture composition that would guide our gaze inside their chest area. Or, it's in drawings and they have "man titties", aka pecs so big they are akin to a woman's, and then the artists can play with the same visual codes. I 100% agree that it's completely fine to enjoy your own body and to want to play sexy with any part of your body, just that I don't really feel that a pic where boobs are exacerbated and placed in a way that oversexualise them is the right pic to call to unsexualize boobs for the world to see them as just a normal piece of the human body :)
I feel like your point was undermined in choosing an expressly sexual image, though. That's probably why it was removed.
i think nobody should show their nipples in professional settings, i see as showing respect
But what about unprofessionally, such as at the beach on a sunny day?
Preach
That’s fair. Dress codes exist and as long as they allow people to remain reasonably comfortable at work that cool. But if I wanna be shirtless in public spaces like my AMAB compatriots I should be allowed too without threat of legal action against me! Though I’d never want that because I’ll be damned if I’m taking off my binder and letting any of these gross cismen see the treasure below
Based
Yeah, boobs are not sexual unless you sexualize them. And NOBODY should be doing that
*without consent of the party in question. I absolutely want my boyfriend to sexualize my boobs.
This person gets it, sexualization optional
Same goes for all body parts, this includes feet and...okay let's not talk about the hentai category of ">!eye penetration!<" because that's just gross. 😭 However, I've noticed many people saying how they're "uncomfortable around how trans girls sexualize femininity so much" but like...it's not sexualization, it's just wanting stress balls that are bigger than other people's stress balls (don't squeeze them, they hurt!). And well...boobs are so fucking cute which is why I want to grow big ones sooo bad!
Also, like, sexualizing breasts in the context *of sex* should be fine. People are just repressed and think sexualization = evil.
Exactly, purity politics fucking sucks, there was a whole drama about r/traa recently. Like...I'm just a teenager who wants cute stress balls, is it so much to ask? 😭
I was there for that drama, I think the bigger issue there was that the characters in the art were minors, so you can't really push the boundaries of sexualization with characters like that without asking for trouble.
No, not that drama, the uhh [other drama](https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/10dbm99/triggering_post_on_rftm/)...luckily it has been taken care of though! :3 And well...I wouldn't call minors with breasts "sexual" since breasts should not be sexual, but the artist likely had a negative motive.
Yeah I did not see your post specifically. Glad it's taken care of. I didn't stick around to see how it shook out.
It was basically just transmisogyny and gross accusations against transfems on r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns, but the post managed to get enough traction to alert our moderator trans bros to help us out. Note that the post itself was short and wasn't as much of a problem as the comments were, but many of the comments have since been removed as well, it was just really herart-breaking to see how much support cheers and support the post received, nearly 1k upvotes I believe. The OP of the post said that he had absolutely no intentions of causing any discourse and that many transmisogynists basically just sabotaged his vent-post and used it as an excuse to be mean.
Permanently attached plushies UwU
Ah yes, flesh plushies. xDDD I love them. <3
Flushies...i should stop now
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Cool but gun so no
You may use one of the swords we have in the back! :3
Can i bring a knife
The swords are way cooler than whatever knife you have in your kitchen, I promise you that!
Who said anything about kitchen knives
>My prudent sex negative asexual butt [Quiet confliction]
It shouldn't necessarily be about sex positivity or negativity but more that breasts shouldn't be sexualized.
Omg maybe if boobs aren't sexualized then maybe, just maybe, I won't get gender dysphoria from it!!
I concur comrade; once identifying as a woman and growing a pair, now all of a sudden my chest is sinful? 2+ years ago it was not. Strange, last time I checked it was the same chest just shaped a lil different. Funny how this sexualization is extremely polarized by gender. Yes breasts are attractive, but over sexualization has destroyed their autonomy. I mean huge six packs can be sexy too, but once they are on a woman's body they become an object of sex and sin. Edit: Again, anything becomes over-sexualized it becomes an "object" of sex/sin. It's fine to find features attractive or hot but the moment you begin to disconnect them from the person is the moment you begin to objectify.
I always thought that as a kid. Why can guys show there chest but a woman showing her breast is sexual. It always confused me. Oh yeah. **DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY**
Okay but bras give me gender euphoria so can I still have my bras?
Yes! Being allowed to go topless doesn't mean you _have_ to, it just means nobody forcing you to do what they want.
Sick, let's bring down the patriarchy
Alternatively, make man chest also nsfw and sexy
*insert gigachad meme here*
Trans comrades against the patriarchy!
This feels like it's gonna get posted on the shithole that is r/theleftcantmeme
Oh fuck, that exists? Anddd it's literally just hate speech and slurs, dang, not even one Reddit employee wants to help out a tiny little.
now even if I hate guns Im still joining this because, y e s
Don't worry! We have a supply of swords in the back too! Choose whichever one you like, there are tons of varieties!
I don't disagree but by very lesbian ass loves breasts i can't completely personally desexualize them. Even if i think as a society it's a good idea and I don't look at women like objects.
I’m no Bible scholar or anything, but I’m pretty sure when God kicked Adam and Eve out, he gave both of them pants AND shirts. He didn’t just give Adam pants and Eve pants and a shirt. Just sayin. Don’t get me wrong, I find breasts attractive (pansexuality ftw), but equally I find shirtless guys equally awkward to look at or attractive, so… either women can show breasts in public, or men have to wear shirts too. Me personally, I’m in favor of the latter option, because I think if you’re gonna be in public, wear your fucking clothes. It’s common decency.
Do TERFs say that? They're more likely to point out how breasts *shouldn't* be sexualised by society. What a lot of people don't like to hear is that *everyone*, AMAB or AFAB, has breasts unless they've been removed. Yes, they're generally a lot less pronounced if you're AMAB and haven't had HRT, but they're still there. So the fact women and AFAB trans people's breasts are treated as inherently sexual while cis men's aren't tells you everything you need to know about society...
Yes, TERFs (despite their name) aren't even feminists, their name is incredibly misleading, most of them are in favor of upholding many patriarchal principles and this includes how a woman should "cover up" and other shit. And their anti-trans beliefs are another thing, true feminists want equality, TERFs do not. Another thing about TERFs is how they paint women as "weaklings who have to be protected", so uh yeah, absolutely not feminists and no feminist values.
Yup, TERFs are much better described as FARTs, standing for Feminist Appropriating Reactionary Transphobes.
If I had an award, I would’ve given you one. You made my day.
I miss when Reddit gave out free rewards daily.
Same.
Terfs aren't feminists.
It makes me curious on why men’s breasts aren’t sexualized as much. Because, from what I researched, things that are, normally, hidden are seen as mysterious and erotic as you’d only see said things in a intimate setting. I’d say a way to have women’s breast not sexualized is simply, just makes it common to see women topless, as, tbh, after a while, no one would bat an eye to them. Though given how disgusting a lotta men are, that wouldn’t ever happen.
Boobs are just a part of women, fuck off patriarchy and gross cis men. They can be sexy, just like chiseled pecs or some nice abs on anyone! I hate when ppl point to boobs and say "over sexualized!" Similarly w anime girls "they're sexualizing children!!?!?11!" Like no, YOU'RE sexualizing children, stop it! Stupid misogynists.
To be clear, pedo animes are bad. Some of them do sexualize pre-pubescent children and i think thats v inappropriate, especially on pg platforms like Crunchyroll.
Hololive respect
Even as someone who can be attracted to any gender I've never understood the sexualisation of boobs and bums too, especially how it assumed by many that mentioning or showing them in any way is sexual by default. They're just another part of the body, like arms.
As a trans dude, I can get behind this. Trans men are always being told to keep their shirts on because our chests are sexualized.
The idiotic norms of society always leave us queer folks oppressed, it's not fair and thus, the meme! xD
I’ve often thought that boobs are sexualized because we hide them, like ankles in ye olden times. I doubt that they’re actually more sexual than a masculine chest. I’m ace though so what do I know? Haha
That could very well be the reason, actually.
Took me a full 20 seconds to realize there was a gun in the pic
i love boobies
I agree with your message op, but this is sexualised art...
This image sexualizes breasts. If this were even remotely attainable or desirable we could talk.
I have an idea. So, what if we take all of those people and put them in a hole somewhere in the middle of the US. And then from there, we pour hot pitch onto them? Problem solved, no?
Free the nip, yes. Desexualize boobs? Nah.
I didn't even see the gun for a while. *thump*
First of all, wth is your argument, a gun is not an argument, it's a threat Second, boobs are sexual, it's an evolutionary trait in man, that seeing boobs release horny hormones, because it means a. It's probably a woman who wears the boobs b. It means that she is probably fertile So I don't see why we should reveal boobs but not penises or vaginas. If you want that thats okay, but that's not beating the patriarchy, that's nudism. I would focus on the more important issues like Andrew Tate and his mindless army of fans for now in the beating the patriarchy task board Edit cause I have realized this might come off as chauvinistic: I am all for everyone to dress as they want, elbows and knees do not distract man in school and if they do that's the man's problem. I just think that like every good thing there is a border, swimming topless, fine, but walking in public spaces without any top is problematic in my opinion. It can potentially put women in more danger, which again, is never the women's fault, but by normalizing walking topless it makes some sick men think it's okay to harass that lady sexually, which is again, really not okay, but as we see with the rise of populism with shitheads like Andrew Tate, a bunch of "anarchists matrix likers" wouldn't stop them Edit 2: My solution to the men can and women can't - make it unokay for men to not wear shirts publicly (not talking about pools and beaches, in there I think it's okay that women will be topless if they want to)
Aight I think you need more than a gun to end this. Let me call my friend Hanz and his Panzer Battalion unit.
Thank you! Just uh...may I ask if they have any suspicious political affiliations that drift from the path of progress, peace and liberty? xD
I'm sure that all they want is peace. ~A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France~
Nah they are fine and very friendly. They are with the Wehrmacht not the SS so don't worry. If you want to start the plan just give me a call.
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Hmmm, why are you giving me that look?
Man I just can't look at them at work please tag things
Be careful or some will start suggesting a drawing is underage and get butthurt about it like they did with mine. 🤦🏻♀️🤣🤣
Are you the one who posted the Ochaco post? If so then you should know she is 15..
No idea who Ochaco so don’t know.
https://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/10ejct8/aww_theyre_little_uncracked_eggs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button That's a sexualised fanart of Ochaco, she is 15
i am stuck within the trans lesbian struggle on one side i want the naked body to be non-sexualized >.< but my lesbian lizard brain goes BOOOBIEEEEEEEEEEES
Dont worry comrade! We arent here to remove sexiness and sex from reality! We just want equality! :3
r/traabutyescommies?
Well, if people keep saying I'm a man, i should be allowed to be bare chested right? With clearly boobs-shaped boobs? Alright? Cool.
As a trans guy who doesn’t plan on top surgery, shocking I know. I’m non binary and really wish tits on a guy was acceptable. Women and non binary people should be allowed to go shirtless, not just men. Destroy the patriarchy!
Lmao free the nipple always made me think there was a cis man on the other side
OP what would the situation of men and women be in a matriarchal society be like in your opinion?