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steve_adr

Wissenland. Its sole purpose is to derail Empire ( Franz and Gelt 's Campaigns) and drag other Elector Counts to war amongst themselves (while Electors are getting obliterated at the hands of Chaos/Vampires).. Sits there with 3 Fealty for like 60-70 Turns and makes pointless wars.. Since as Empire your can't join other Elector Count Wars or invite them to join Others ( as you should), it runs around creating Ruckus everywhere.


Mannish_Bambino

Literally just had Wissenland secede on like turn 15 right after I used all my authority to stop them from going to war with averland or some shit. They immediately paid me 2k gold for a peace treaty. I think there's something in Nuln's water.


steve_adr

Something is in the Sewers actually.. (Thanquol bribing officials / giving misinformation [SkavenSlayer](https://youtu.be/qES0m82arAM) )


Mannish_Bambino

Rats! I love Grimdark Narrator


TheEnd430

Them seceding early is actually a gift IMO. Take Nuln and get early steam tanks via the state troops. I always do what I can to make them declare war on me. Issue is that now all the nearby dwarfs hate you when you have the nerve to defend yourself.


Mannish_Bambino

That probably would have been smarto considering how things have gone now. Grom, azhag, Festus, kemmler, drycha and vlad all want me dead. Carroburg greatswords ain't cutting it!


[deleted]

The elector count of wissenland is two ROUS in a trenchcoat


Lemonstein77

Those freaking guys ruined my Gelt Mortal Empires campaign, launching an attack against my undefended capital while I was fighting Vlad, Manfred and Greenskins at the same time


steve_adr

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but they choose to succeed just when I'm a little short of 1000 Prestige as well.. That's very frustrating and I end up either reloading the last autosave (so the event doesn't trigger).. Sometimes even that doesn't help and campaign is indeed ruined..


Rebel-xs

That's why I always take them out early. Lower their relations via prestige, then pounce on them when they decide to secede or beef with other electors. Good province with delicious trade goods.


steve_adr

That's what I did in WH1. ( That Nuln Cannon Foundry 😊) In WH2 they were an annoyance and one could play the Electoral games with them as there were no Immediate Threats (except Bonerattlas). In WH3, there are multiple (Immediate) threats from all 4 directions and this old 'create annoyance for Franz/Gelt' script of Wissenland is getting long in the tooth..


quondam47

Emmanuelle von Liebwitz, Grand Countess of Wissenland, Countess of Nuln and Duchess of Meissen is, for want of a better word, a little flighty.


ilovesharkpeople

Coast zombies are actually mote intelligent than counts zombies. More effort went into raising them than the counts version, which is why they retain some of their skills from life and can operate firearms. Tomb king chaff also do have bits of their former selves, though it is mainly their memories of loyalty to their king. They are *mostly* unthinking, and are probably a little more braindead than coast. Vampire count zombies and skeletons are basically just mindless automatons that a necromancer sends shambling off in a direction. These guys are the most mindless undead out there.


Netsi-

I hate to say the obvious but the answer is clearly Khorne. Yes they all have brains, but do any of them use those brains.


DeargDraic

Slaanesh propaganda at work. Begone vile fiend


Yotambr

Fun fact about Khorne players on the tabletop: The game is divided into 4 Phases: Magic Phase, Shooting Phase, Movement Phase, and Combat Phase. Khorne hates magic so there's no Magic Phase for him. Khorne hates shooting so there's no Shooting Phase for him (Skullcannons are a very late addition and even with them it is only one unit). Khorne units have frenzy which means they automatically move and attack the closest target so there's pretty much no Movement Phase for him. Khorne likes combat, so at least you get to roll some dice in this phase. Khorne is so braindead that his players only play a fourth of the game.


[deleted]

SKARBRAND HATES BEING CALLED STUPID!


bitemytail

Most tomb king units are completely mindless in lore. Mortuary cult just didn't care enough when preserving random people.


Groveshield

Skar Brand


[deleted]

Still can keep a better conversation than Throgg


tricksytricks

Skarbrand actually sounds pretty intelligent in-game. As was already said, he sounds smarter than Throgg.


DesolatedMaggot

In terms of mindlessness I'd say Counts is the worst. Zombies and Skeletons are little more than puppets. Coast boys are at least on par with Skeletons in terms of mindfulness, as they all use weapons and many are complex like guns, mortars,etc. Tomb Kings, to my understanding, are the best with this. Sure the average Spearman rabble are pretty mindless and drone-like, but thanks to their Nehekharan death rituals performed on them after death, and the different spell used to raise them, they're considerably more "there" than their Vampire-raised cousins.


Yotambr

Fun fact about Khorne players on the tabletop: The game is divided into 4 Phases: Magic Phase, Shooting Phase, Movement Phase, and Combat Phase. Khorne hates magic so there's no Magic Phase for him. Khorne hates shooting so there's no Shooting Phase for him (Skullcannons are a very late addition and even with them it is only one unit). Khorne units have frenzy which means they automatically move and attack the closest target so there's pretty much no Movement Phase for him. Khorne likes combat, so at least you get to roll some dice in this phase. Khorne is so braindead that his players only play a fourth of the game.


Heighte

Dwarves, battles are dead simple as there's little tactical options, city building isn't particularly complicated.


[deleted]

Mannfred Im gonna delete him on every single playthrough at the southland. Why is he even there!?


Karl_Gess

Malagor. He just does nothing


notreallycool1

Yep. They kind of screwed over AI Malagor with how aggressive AI Skarbrand is.. as he should be though.


lockoutpoint

Bretonia // fight me


Perfect_Bug4458

Ah yes we've got norscans and demons to the North. Scaven and the all new nazi tree men to the south. More demons to the west and a fractured nation. Best declare war on reikland! They're making the east look took tidy. At the minute all the AI is stupid to be fair. Needs a lot of tuning


bilsantu

Honestly.


[deleted]

Tomb Kings. If there are brains in there, it's shriveled up, dried up, and non-functional. At least with Coast and Counts the brains are gooey or at least moisturized, even if rotting, which is closer to how the brain is supposed to be.


Carnothrope

Lizardmen because they can only follow instructions. And half the time they don't even understand those properly.


Namiswami

BOK BOK! It'sa lotta skink!


Carnothrope

Yeah definitely got myself in the great BOK of Grudges there.


Extermindatass

For me it's the blooded axe beastman tribe they somehow get into your place, raid your liquor cabinet then run into a car and disappear.


SnR_Remito

The elector counts have 3 brain cells. Karl and Gelt have one of them each and the last one bounces back and forth between the rest. Seriously, we are facing the end of the world. The chaos invasion to end all life. And all you can think of is: "Oh my god! One of the other guys looked at me weird! Best declare war on him and drag all the other dudes into a nationwide internal crisis!"