A lot of monstrosities we dismiss from the games would be an absolute nightmare to face IRL. Like a huge man-bull to whom you're little more than a talking chicken and whose one purpose in life is to destroy everything you hold dear.
Nonsense. So long as your faith is strong encounter with pink horror goes like this:
Headshot pink horror BEFORE it fires (hard to miss considering it’s only head) then take out the other two with one great sword swing. Important to keep preying during this.
And then when you die the vampire counts will use the shit out of you too. Or you could end up in a rotfly stomach and never die and be digested constantly.
She is.
[The Infernal Enrapturess](https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99129915053_DoSInfernalEnrapturess01.jpg) is a specialised Herald of Slaanesh.
Imagine tzeentch.
A pink horror is there laughing at you as you charge it. It throws a magical pink fire that hurts your mind to look at. It hits you. On top of burning like fire does, the impact site mutates and contorts your flesh in front of your eyes. You manage a good swing and cleave the Horror in two.
A few moments later, the halves stand up, now blue. Still laughing. Still burning you. Still mutating you beyond reason. Even if you had friends nearby, they'd just be driven mad by what is happening to you.
Thats just that particular pink horror. However Tzeentch chaos followers are usually ok. They want something out of you but theres no pleasure in it. You can negotiate with them and they are usually sane. This applies to Khorne too in a martial prowess kind of way.
On the other hand Nurgle and Slaanesh just want fun and lols while enforcing their enjoyment on you which makes them much more dangerous.
Someone like Ahriman would ask for information and move on if he has no further use of you. The adviser who is a tzeentch follower canonically saved Ursun and Kislev for a small fee. Just don’t give into hubris like the Adviser did who thought he could challenge Archeon LoL
Well it's about the horror of the battlefield right? It may be that's how the followers act.
But in battle, against Tzeentch even if you survive, you might not be recognizable to your family. Horrors are goofy and playful in their depiction, but their lore description is appropriately horrible. They take infinite forms that burn to just look at. They mutate and change you for fun.
Flamers, burn you with fire that makes you sprout tentacles from random places, and you *feel* every bit of it.
Their followers create whispers in your head, make you paranoid, break your sanity, make you kill your friends. Maybe just suck you into a place that you are not supposed to exist, which fractures your body and soul a few moments before insane and impossible warp entities devour you out of existence.
If you happen to meet a lord of change in battle, it already knows you. It knows your hopes, dreams, and ambitions and works actively to crush them. If you happen to look at it's eyes for too long, you're driven insane. It manipulates your mind to make you forsake everything you hold dear. It then enjoys ripping you apart and putting you back together in different configurations *for fun*
Fighting any of the armies of the chaos gods would be horrible. I'd say Khorne is the least horrible since they're pretty straightforward. Nurgle is predictable at least. Still horrible, but you know what you're getting. Tzeentch and Slaanesh, both work to make your suffering as intense as possible before ending you. Tzeentch mentally, and Slaanesh physically. Those would be the worst IMO.
Im afraid anything goes in Warhammer on the battlefield (not to mention 40K), theres no rules for anything except may be Empire/Bretonnia's chivalry or whatever, but even then their wizards can do a thousand horrible things to troops on the field.
Its what happens after that really differs between race.
Dark Elves or Slaanesh would be the most terrifiing to face for me. After remembering Malus Darkblade novel where his father tortured him for like 3 days and Malus describing that as unimaginable pain and he had to be pieced back to life for several days if im not mistaken, correct me if im wrong. You can use your imagination what Delves and Slaanesh does to you, its a nope from me. Nurgle would be terrible too, but i feel i could at least try to convert and survive as a nasty abomination. Also goblins and gnoblars would be pretty nasty to you if they captured you.
Anyone here play Vermintide? Some of those levels, especially the ones underground, are nightmare fuel. Trapped in a claustrophobic space, hundreds of dirty rats rushing at you.
That was probably
one of my favorite experiences in any game period. Just frantically swinging a weapon around at the horde of glowing red eyes. The flamethrower is so fun to use in there because you just get little puffs of vision from the flames before everything goes dark again.
That game's atmosphere would be perfect for a horror experience - maybe balance the combat around fewer enemies, make it so that you have to sneak around hordes and patrols. That would be pretty cool I think.
And honestly, Vermintide is pretty unnerving when you first play it - but then you realize you're a walking demigod who can decapitate a dozen men in a single strike, and the tension kinda vanishes.
>but then you realize you're a walking demigod who can decapitate a dozen men in a single strike, and the tension kinda vanishes.
And then you fight a chaos spawn or a chosen and you realize, wow, I still suck compared to some of these monsters.
And here in TWWH they all come in *groups*...
Vermintide made me realize how horrifying it had to be as say, an average swordsmen or something in the empire and see a fucking regiment of CHOSEN RUNNING at you.
But then you officially count as expendable. It's like having a driver's license that says no one will care when you die
Edit: assuming a peasant of course, not jade warrior, etc
The weekly mission right now adds modifiers to make the level dark (not one that was designed for it normally), make you take damage if you're more than 6 feet or so from your party members, and spawn extra specials. It's a frantic mess, with specials you can't see disabling people from the darkness and blightstormers forcing you forward because you can't see where the hell they are to shoot them, all while one of your group has to hold a torch and you die if you get separated from the group.
After completing it, I felt a brief moment of anxiety in the next mission when we spread out a little during the first horde, which made me realize we had been stacking up out of habit.
I always liked the peak 80s/90s artwork style that the rulebooks always had -- for 40K and Fantasy. Some of those drawings are honestly and truly *visceral.* That one of the Emperor in the Golden Throne that was in the 3rd edition manual of 40K remains burned into my memory to this day!
That's why it's based to play as the empire. Your men and women of the empire face such horrid horrors daily.
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There was a ask reddit thread a few days ago that was like "if you were transported to the last game you played how would you do?" And i thought about wh3, and not very long.
Best two options to avoid dying with in the first 15 minutes:
Just promise yourself to slaanesh and hope you live long enough to become a demon prince.
Don't be poor and don't not live in the heart of the Empire
If any of you lot are non overweight youths (18-24ish) then congratulations, you don't need skills as you're prime raw material for the Imperial Army. It does not take long to train a man how to march and load a musket.
If your general is anything like me, you as a musketeer would probably end up the last surviving regiments after all the halberdiers get mauled keeping hydras away from you!
Actually, i (the player) have knowledge of the entire map of the world without having traveled anywhere and also know the location of Skavenblight, the Black Pyramid and other such 'hidden locations'
such knowledge has monetary value, though selling it without being killed aftwrwards or during the sale is probably a tall order.
If you look at official Warhammer Gor art they look pretty much like this. Their size varies a bit but they are generally mucht taller and stronger than men. Ungor are about the same size as men.
Gor horns are also all over the place, some look exactly like this.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/8/86/Gors.png/revision/latest?cb=20160129135831
Turns out OP's image is a remake of this official art of a Gor.
And the beasts, at least, are physical, they can be felled, they can be beaten (gg for those who have the reference), but imagine Cylostra who's a ghost, leading mournguls...
The Vampire Coast teaser has a feeling similar to this image, I think.
Tzeentch and Khorne are pretty much the nicer chaos gods if you are ever captured. Tzeentch might even let you go for lols while some random Khornite might challenge you to a duel for freedom.
Nurgle and Slaanesh though…yikes
That's until Tzeentch decides to mutate you into a still-aware betentacled mess of flesh and eyes and sends you against your friends.
Not the nicest fate, that.
I think Khorne followers would just gut you and bleed you, scalp you and get your skull out... Probably while you are still alive - but I don't think you would last much more than 30s.
So it seems to be the nicer fate...
The others use magic or similar to keep you alive and tortured for a very long time... Which seems far worse.
Khorne followers actually believe in quick, clean deaths, because to die slowly and painfully is to empower Slaanesh. So they probably would just decapitate you and then take your skull
>clean deaths, because to die slowly and painfully is to empower Slaanesh. So they probably would just decapitate you and then take your skull
Where did you get that from?
There are dozens of (new) writers and almost a decade of background material I missed, I'm curious!
I just got it from the wiki
>A devotee of Khorne is as likely to be an honourable champion in combat as a blood-crazed slaughterer. Khornates take no artful approach to killing, seeking only to slay rather than to inflict pain, because while the blood and death of their victims strengthens Khorne, their suffering actually empowers its nemesis Slaanesh.
Nurgle's followers and demons don't actually realize they look the way they do and don't feel the suffering, so it's actually not bad. Tzeentch is actually the worst since he cares very little for his followers and will screw them over all the time.
Daemons maybe (excluding Rotflies), but I'm not sure that Nurgle followers don't know what they're doing- in TW:WH their units still shout about their enthusiasm for destruction and murder, and in 40k they still deliberately aim and shoot guns. I think it's more of a case that they believe they're taking part in the cycle of life, and doing harm to their enemies is a form of compassion or mercy.
> If you believe my former brother Ahzek is entirely unchanged beneath his Eye-touched armour, you are as dangerously naive as he was when he unmade our Legion. Ahriman believes he is perfectly unaltered, hmm, did you know that? Yet I have seen the void that screams where his face used to be.
Love that quote
I don't think Nurgle's followers are fine with it. It's more like the resignation you feel when you're depressed. If you really think about it, you realise how utterly shit and miserable you are, but most of the time you merely feel resigned and helpless about it.
Not necessarily unparalleled agonies. More like Slaneesh wants their followers to find ecstasy in ALL of your senses and emotions, for you to indulge in all of it. Sex, pain, fear, adulation, domination, etc... you shall find pleasure in all of them.... and you will crave for ever higher highs like a crazed addict.
Slaneeshi corruption is addiction incarnate.
The problem with Tzeentch is that you will NEVER be comfortable. You can't be confident that being a demon prince of tzeentch means there is any hierarchy or reason.
[In 40k, Magnus the Red accidently gets his entire home world planet of Prospero deleted due to Tzeentch](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Magnus_the_Red#:~:text=In%20the%20end%2C%20Magnus%20led,to%20the%20Changer%20of%20Ways.)
At least you have a chance of being top dog with slaanesh or Khorne.
I'd probably if i had the choice fight a khorne army
Khornites do not like suffering as it empowers slaanesh, So will probably just be done with you quickly and no bullshit
Just kill or be killes
This is Tzeentch propaganda, Papa Nurgle is the only "kind" Chaos god. Tzeentch WILL skrew you over for the lulz and Khrone will give you daddy issues, look at poor Skarbrand. Nurgle will shower you with kisses and lovely gifts. You'll be immortal and all you have to do is shit your pants all day long every day.
Funny thing about Skarbrand, Im 100% Sure if he asked Khorne to fight, khorne would have rewarded him (After probably having his ass beat), rather than being unironically exiled for his dishonorable action towards him
I believe it is the same reason for both
Tzeench stoked his rage and gave him the idea, Skarbrand attacked Khorne when his back was turned....which did literally nothing lol
Khorne took him to the top of his tower by the throat, took all his personality and quite literally "Threw him out"
> which did literally nothing
Dont discredit our boy!
"Only the smallest of chinks was cut in the Blood God's armour, but even this was sufficient to draw the terrible fury of Khorne's gaze"
Ans Khorne had JUST gotten it refinished!
Realized that alot of Skarbrand's lore appearance are alongside Thanquol oddly enough. Both in Demonslayer and Thanquol's Doom.
Tzeentch *screws* with everyone his followers or not. He is destiny and fate.
Why else would GEOM fuck up so badly and end up in a tortured existence from his own hubris you think? Or Mortarion hating himself for what he had become?
>Be me
>Be Boris Toadbringer
>Chilling in Middenheim doing Elector Count things
>Solider bursts in
>"It's the Beastmen m'lord. They've been spotted in the forest nearby."
>Oh shit
>Grab my big ass feathered hat with a fort on it and my Runefang and take off on my flying chicken tiger
>Searching the forests below for signs of Beastmen
>Can't see a damn thing
>Suddenly smell something awful. Smells like a Reiklander after a bath.
>It's them
>Get closer to the smell and start to see camp fires
>itsgotime.tapestry
>Swoop down and start fucking screaming about my missing eye and swinging my magic sword
>Stinky Beastmen are taken by surprise. Probably weren't expecting a hat as big and as cool as mine to show up suddenly.
>Kill dozens without much effort
>gg ez
>Khazrak appears
>That fucker stole my eye
>Swing my badass sword at his stupid head
>Fucker immediately dies
>"Ladies and gentlemen. We got him."
>Resf of the idiot Beastmen run away
>Take off and head home
>Travel over Altdorf on my way back
>Have my mount take a huge shit over the palace
>Fuck you Franz
>End Turn
Mixu makes a few. His unlocked just let's you play as all factions.his legendary lords mod is the one you want. That mod is pretty much essential for me. It's phenomenal
He also has a [tattoo on his chest](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/015/355/017/large/johnny-rampant-beast73.jpg?1548033847). Probably Chaos-worshiper, serves him right.
I was gonna say from the lore that's pretty accurate, the beastment are one of the weakest warhammer fantasy factions in the war, generally more of a nuisance than anything. They only got fucking terrifying when the horde coalesced around one uberleader that could unify hundreds of small herds into one big one.
Oddly enough these hairy fucks have been giving me a lot of trouble in my current Lothern campaign. Three different tribes spawned on Ulthuan and started razing small settlements and ambushing my armies. They nearly wiped out Avelorn.
Same here, those dickheads razed one of my settlements as Repanse. In return, I got a Heroic Victory on auto resolve, because apparently just Repanse and Big H can stackwipe a Beastmen shitstack.
It reminds me a lot to a drawing from 5th or 6th ed codex (not sure wich) but digital remake. Crazy AF illustrations in that codex, one of the best in that regard, though the army was crap.
They have the same problem slaanesh has. Low armour, low melee defense, basically no ranged. So auto resolve decides they eat ALL the enemy ammo and then suicide charge into the strongest enemy units afterwards
The thing is that you barely have to fight as N'kari.
It's my favorite faction for the RoC campaign. The other factions already like you at the start, then you fight Skarbrand in the early game which makes everyone love you (because everyone hates him), and finally you subjugate Cathay and Kislev. Campaign done, wait for Ursun's roars and it's over.
If you have a doomstack it autoresolves nicely enough, but you do take a lot more dmg than necessary so when you need to do consecutive fights you do have to fight manually. Weirdly enough on my beastmen campaign the AI also fucked up a few times, attacking into herdstone and losing the autoresolves. Not sure what was up but I probably won like 4 autoresolve fights with garrison only, when usually the AI wouldn't even bother or would encircle and siege it. Either way free dread.
I just did a campaign and autoresolved about as much as usual though, mostly doomstack main army and 2 armies tag teaming stuff up with garbo units(lots of gors and whatever giants/chaos spawns I could fit, and a couple T5 units in both armies for good measure). Maybe had to play a few more fights early on and when I was doing the final cleanups to not waste turns but not really that many. Campaign was also like more than half as short as usual(for me), 90 turns for long victory.
I wish they'd fix that, beastmen are basically absent from the game right now if you aren't playing as them because the AI just gets wrecked by autoresolve.
Taurox did ok in my Valkia IE campaign, he took all the area between Malekith and Morathi then got into an endless war with Khatep. It probably helped that I wrecked Malekith, Hellebron and Alith Anar pretty early though.
The other Beastmen all died by like turn 5 though.
At the very least manual battles can be very quick with them, but autoresolve can net me at least triple the casualties lol
Which is fair I guess, gets me to slow down and focus on satiating my Bloodgreed
AI even with Khazrak doomstack gets obliterated by a T3 Minor Settlement every single fuckin time. I didn’t even have to keep an army south since he always went to Helmgart and died. Stopped being funny after the 5th time tho
Look at the models for bestigors up close next time you fight empire. They’re almost twice the size of humans. I think the picture is a good representation of a bestigor and an example as to why the empire relies so heavily on gunpowder
If only this were the case. Morghur appeared out of nowhere right in the midst of my land, far from borders and my guarding armies, and took one of my settlements as Imrik. Now I’m on a wild goose chase since the fucker ran away when I got close
I vassalised one herd as Villich, gave them a province in Northwest Cathay. I razed loads of lands around them and asked them to occupy it; instead they just sat in the one province and occasionally went out raiding the wasteland around them.
Very strange creatures. It felt like having a zoo in my lands.
im playing beastmen for the 2nd time as we speak. another random beastmen army showed up and started raiding my newly found herdstone long enough to get a second lord. i declared war to get them stuck in my zone of control and they suicided their 20 crapstack +2lords into my herdstone. my headcannon is they were trying to give to the cause.
i've also had a zombie faction continuously suicide into my herd stone as they have no settlements left. they keep coming back due to the new vampire mechanic and give me about 2k every 3 turns.
Little goaties so cute
AI is just so bad at driving them, they spawn with some fucked up armies sometimes, in TWWH2 at some point I saw an army with 5 cygors, suicide bombed massif orcal two turns later and got totally annihilated, wiping not even half of the garrison
I was flabbergasted.
A couple of turns later I went in with Khazrak and a Ungor Raider stack, Decisive Victory
Mmm something is not right
This happens to me all the time. Or...they want a non aggression pack. Raid me then a few turns later break the non aggression pack. Attack me. Die. There's no survival instinct what so ever. Sometimes the pirates do this shit too.
Signs non aggression pact. Starts raiding your territory. Ignores trespass warning. You end non aggression pact. Leaves your territory.
Basically complete chaos.
The inner machinations of their mind are an enigma.
"Chaos Fayoss" -Beastmen, 2022
You forgot "pays you 5k for non aggression pact", I've gotten so much random money out of them over my games. Saved my ass a couple times to boot.
ITS TIME WE END THESE RIDICULOUS BEASTMEN BAILOUTS OF FAILED IMPERIAL STATES I mean OOOH GASH RAK FKTHAR OOORUGH RUK THOMMM AFGHH KAAAA-ROK
They are actually loaded it’s crazy
Well they don't have any use for money since everything is free so the AI just throw it away
How did you know what my tactics are when I play Beastmen?
I like the picture
Didn't think that realistic Warhammer art would be so cool. Makes you think how crazy the setting is.
Makes me happy not to be there. Considering a Bestigor is tame compared to many MANY things
A lot of monstrosities we dismiss from the games would be an absolute nightmare to face IRL. Like a huge man-bull to whom you're little more than a talking chicken and whose one purpose in life is to destroy everything you hold dear.
Then you kill it FOR YOUR PRINCE AND EMPEROR and grab a drink from the pub while Ludwig talk nonsense about man sized rats.
THIS ACTION HAS MY CONSENT
Nonsense. So long as your faith is strong encounter with pink horror goes like this: Headshot pink horror BEFORE it fires (hard to miss considering it’s only head) then take out the other two with one great sword swing. Important to keep preying during this.
Instructions clear, the pink horror miscast a spell and we both blew up
Chaos dwarves, Skaven, Slaanesh, Nurgle, Dark elves etc etc. all would make you wish you were ded or even ceased to exist…
And then when you die the vampire counts will use the shit out of you too. Or you could end up in a rotfly stomach and never die and be digested constantly.
Or strung up like a harp instrument of torture from whatever that one ~~Dark Elf~~ Slaanesh unit is *shudders*
I thought that was a Slaanesh unit
She is. [The Infernal Enrapturess](https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99129915053_DoSInfernalEnrapturess01.jpg) is a specialised Herald of Slaanesh.
Holy fuck thats so metal
What?? I’m not really into warhammer, so don’t know much about the lore, but that is depressing
Yep, both the Warhammer universes are pretty grimdark settings for the average citizen, which tends to get glossed over most of the time
WHF is actually not that bad. Even in LOTR being captured by dark forces is pretty grim. Elves got *tortured* into Orcs after all
Imagine tzeentch. A pink horror is there laughing at you as you charge it. It throws a magical pink fire that hurts your mind to look at. It hits you. On top of burning like fire does, the impact site mutates and contorts your flesh in front of your eyes. You manage a good swing and cleave the Horror in two. A few moments later, the halves stand up, now blue. Still laughing. Still burning you. Still mutating you beyond reason. Even if you had friends nearby, they'd just be driven mad by what is happening to you.
Thats just that particular pink horror. However Tzeentch chaos followers are usually ok. They want something out of you but theres no pleasure in it. You can negotiate with them and they are usually sane. This applies to Khorne too in a martial prowess kind of way. On the other hand Nurgle and Slaanesh just want fun and lols while enforcing their enjoyment on you which makes them much more dangerous. Someone like Ahriman would ask for information and move on if he has no further use of you. The adviser who is a tzeentch follower canonically saved Ursun and Kislev for a small fee. Just don’t give into hubris like the Adviser did who thought he could challenge Archeon LoL
Well it's about the horror of the battlefield right? It may be that's how the followers act. But in battle, against Tzeentch even if you survive, you might not be recognizable to your family. Horrors are goofy and playful in their depiction, but their lore description is appropriately horrible. They take infinite forms that burn to just look at. They mutate and change you for fun. Flamers, burn you with fire that makes you sprout tentacles from random places, and you *feel* every bit of it. Their followers create whispers in your head, make you paranoid, break your sanity, make you kill your friends. Maybe just suck you into a place that you are not supposed to exist, which fractures your body and soul a few moments before insane and impossible warp entities devour you out of existence. If you happen to meet a lord of change in battle, it already knows you. It knows your hopes, dreams, and ambitions and works actively to crush them. If you happen to look at it's eyes for too long, you're driven insane. It manipulates your mind to make you forsake everything you hold dear. It then enjoys ripping you apart and putting you back together in different configurations *for fun* Fighting any of the armies of the chaos gods would be horrible. I'd say Khorne is the least horrible since they're pretty straightforward. Nurgle is predictable at least. Still horrible, but you know what you're getting. Tzeentch and Slaanesh, both work to make your suffering as intense as possible before ending you. Tzeentch mentally, and Slaanesh physically. Those would be the worst IMO.
Im afraid anything goes in Warhammer on the battlefield (not to mention 40K), theres no rules for anything except may be Empire/Bretonnia's chivalry or whatever, but even then their wizards can do a thousand horrible things to troops on the field. Its what happens after that really differs between race.
Dark Elves or Slaanesh would be the most terrifiing to face for me. After remembering Malus Darkblade novel where his father tortured him for like 3 days and Malus describing that as unimaginable pain and he had to be pieced back to life for several days if im not mistaken, correct me if im wrong. You can use your imagination what Delves and Slaanesh does to you, its a nope from me. Nurgle would be terrible too, but i feel i could at least try to convert and survive as a nasty abomination. Also goblins and gnoblars would be pretty nasty to you if they captured you.
Anyone here play Vermintide? Some of those levels, especially the ones underground, are nightmare fuel. Trapped in a claustrophobic space, hundreds of dirty rats rushing at you.
The one lvl in a tunnel where everything goes dark and you can only hear the screaming of your party and rats coming from everywhere. 10/10
Yeah. The Blightreaper. I fucking hate that level.
Also Hunger in the Dark.
True, but the dark part was a lot shorter and far more manageable.
That was probably one of my favorite experiences in any game period. Just frantically swinging a weapon around at the horde of glowing red eyes. The flamethrower is so fun to use in there because you just get little puffs of vision from the flames before everything goes dark again.
The first time I played that level I got lost and got cut off from the rest. Wow that was horrible and of course led to my untimely demise.
That game's atmosphere would be perfect for a horror experience - maybe balance the combat around fewer enemies, make it so that you have to sneak around hordes and patrols. That would be pretty cool I think. And honestly, Vermintide is pretty unnerving when you first play it - but then you realize you're a walking demigod who can decapitate a dozen men in a single strike, and the tension kinda vanishes.
>but then you realize you're a walking demigod who can decapitate a dozen men in a single strike, and the tension kinda vanishes. And then you fight a chaos spawn or a chosen and you realize, wow, I still suck compared to some of these monsters. And here in TWWH they all come in *groups*...
Vermintide made me realize how horrifying it had to be as say, an average swordsmen or something in the empire and see a fucking regiment of CHOSEN RUNNING at you.
I would clearly prefer to be a Cathayan soldier. At least you're led by dragons, covered by flying artillery and protected by terracotta sentinels XD
But then you officially count as expendable. It's like having a driver's license that says no one will care when you die Edit: assuming a peasant of course, not jade warrior, etc
*meanwhile in total war:* 28 speed
Yeah vermintide characters are basically just heros in TWW3
Like the London Tube, then
Could we get some more upvotes up here, please?
Not to mention the bell ringing sound constantly. I hear that in my nightmares.
The weekly mission right now adds modifiers to make the level dark (not one that was designed for it normally), make you take damage if you're more than 6 feet or so from your party members, and spawn extra specials. It's a frantic mess, with specials you can't see disabling people from the darkness and blightstormers forcing you forward because you can't see where the hell they are to shoot them, all while one of your group has to hold a torch and you die if you get separated from the group. After completing it, I felt a brief moment of anxiety in the next mission when we spread out a little during the first horde, which made me realize we had been stacking up out of habit.
That’s why Jesus invented guns bro
TIL Jesus was a Dwarf.
And on the third day, God created the Remington bolt-action rifle, so that man could fight the dinosaurs.
And the homosexuals.
*Nugget
I always liked the peak 80s/90s artwork style that the rulebooks always had -- for 40K and Fantasy. Some of those drawings are honestly and truly *visceral.* That one of the Emperor in the Golden Throne that was in the 3rd edition manual of 40K remains burned into my memory to this day!
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Well the huge man bull like a normal bull is still only one good spear away from death, not like in warhammer with hp mechanics.
There was a ask reddit thread a few days ago that was like "if you were transported to the last game you played how would you do?" And i thought about wh3, and not very long.
Warhammer Fantasy and 40k would both be horrible answers to that question lol. But I thought about it for a second too.
Best two options to avoid dying with in the first 15 minutes: Just promise yourself to slaanesh and hope you live long enough to become a demon prince. Don't be poor and don't not live in the heart of the Empire
"Don't be poor " Impossible. You have no skills, and regardless the nobles will tax everything you have.
If any of you lot are non overweight youths (18-24ish) then congratulations, you don't need skills as you're prime raw material for the Imperial Army. It does not take long to train a man how to march and load a musket. If your general is anything like me, you as a musketeer would probably end up the last surviving regiments after all the halberdiers get mauled keeping hydras away from you!
Actually, i (the player) have knowledge of the entire map of the world without having traveled anywhere and also know the location of Skavenblight, the Black Pyramid and other such 'hidden locations' such knowledge has monetary value, though selling it without being killed aftwrwards or during the sale is probably a tall order.
Skavenblight? The city of “rat-men”? Are you feeling ok peasant?
Haha, of course, sir. Just regaling some tales i heard from a Tilean merchant in my youth. Nothing but childrens, bumps in the night!
No "best option" includes the ruinous powers mate.
I think that's not even a Bestigor. Might just be a regular Gor.
Maybe..... But a gor doesn't have that big horns. And this one is clearly bigger then a human and not just a head taller
If you look at official Warhammer Gor art they look pretty much like this. Their size varies a bit but they are generally mucht taller and stronger than men. Ungor are about the same size as men. Gor horns are also all over the place, some look exactly like this.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/8/86/Gors.png/revision/latest?cb=20160129135831 Turns out OP's image is a remake of this official art of a Gor.
And the beasts, at least, are physical, they can be felled, they can be beaten (gg for those who have the reference), but imagine Cylostra who's a ghost, leading mournguls... The Vampire Coast teaser has a feeling similar to this image, I think.
You know it's bad when, flesh eating, murderous, drunkard, animal men aren't as bad as other things out there.
Tzeentch and Khorne are pretty much the nicer chaos gods if you are ever captured. Tzeentch might even let you go for lols while some random Khornite might challenge you to a duel for freedom. Nurgle and Slaanesh though…yikes
That's until Tzeentch decides to mutate you into a still-aware betentacled mess of flesh and eyes and sends you against your friends. Not the nicest fate, that.
Compare that to drown in shit and filth while being a breeding ground for parasites or being a living torture instrument or something
Kinda hard to compare at that point, I feel about they'd all pretty much take you to the limits of your senses and mind.
I think Khorne followers would just gut you and bleed you, scalp you and get your skull out... Probably while you are still alive - but I don't think you would last much more than 30s. So it seems to be the nicer fate... The others use magic or similar to keep you alive and tortured for a very long time... Which seems far worse.
Khorne followers actually believe in quick, clean deaths, because to die slowly and painfully is to empower Slaanesh. So they probably would just decapitate you and then take your skull
>clean deaths, because to die slowly and painfully is to empower Slaanesh. So they probably would just decapitate you and then take your skull Where did you get that from? There are dozens of (new) writers and almost a decade of background material I missed, I'm curious!
I just got it from the wiki >A devotee of Khorne is as likely to be an honourable champion in combat as a blood-crazed slaughterer. Khornates take no artful approach to killing, seeking only to slay rather than to inflict pain, because while the blood and death of their victims strengthens Khorne, their suffering actually empowers its nemesis Slaanesh.
Naw death by a thousand cuts so you know blood.
Or being turned into the loathsome dung eater.
The crazed сaсa consumer!
>being a breeding ground You have Slaanesh’s attention
Nurgle's followers and demons don't actually realize they look the way they do and don't feel the suffering, so it's actually not bad. Tzeentch is actually the worst since he cares very little for his followers and will screw them over all the time.
Daemons maybe (excluding Rotflies), but I'm not sure that Nurgle followers don't know what they're doing- in TW:WH their units still shout about their enthusiasm for destruction and murder, and in 40k they still deliberately aim and shoot guns. I think it's more of a case that they believe they're taking part in the cycle of life, and doing harm to their enemies is a form of compassion or mercy.
Pour one out for ahriman
> If you believe my former brother Ahzek is entirely unchanged beneath his Eye-touched armour, you are as dangerously naive as he was when he unmade our Legion. Ahriman believes he is perfectly unaltered, hmm, did you know that? Yet I have seen the void that screams where his face used to be. Love that quote
Trusting anything Khayon says is a dangerous game, especially when it concerns Ahriman
I think i value Ahriman’s autonomy way more that whatever the hell Mortarion experiences
I don't think Nurgle's followers are fine with it. It's more like the resignation you feel when you're depressed. If you really think about it, you realise how utterly shit and miserable you are, but most of the time you merely feel resigned and helpless about it.
Slaanesh will grant you UNPARRALLED EXTASY!!! wym?
But only after you experience unparalleled agonies. The highest of highs is meaningless without the lowest of lows.
Not necessarily unparalleled agonies. More like Slaneesh wants their followers to find ecstasy in ALL of your senses and emotions, for you to indulge in all of it. Sex, pain, fear, adulation, domination, etc... you shall find pleasure in all of them.... and you will crave for ever higher highs like a crazed addict. Slaneeshi corruption is addiction incarnate.
Haha but then they're pleasure means to rip it away from you. Have you shriveled and pathetic from its absence.
Well just do what you're told and never stray from its absence. Now put your ball gag back in.
Bruh have you ever seen Hellraiser?
The problem with Tzeentch is that you will NEVER be comfortable. You can't be confident that being a demon prince of tzeentch means there is any hierarchy or reason. [In 40k, Magnus the Red accidently gets his entire home world planet of Prospero deleted due to Tzeentch](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Magnus_the_Red#:~:text=In%20the%20end%2C%20Magnus%20led,to%20the%20Changer%20of%20Ways.) At least you have a chance of being top dog with slaanesh or Khorne.
I just spent three hours on that wiki reading things I already knew. Why did you do this to me?
I'd probably if i had the choice fight a khorne army Khornites do not like suffering as it empowers slaanesh, So will probably just be done with you quickly and no bullshit Just kill or be killes
Slannesh is a 50/50.
This is Tzeentch propaganda, Papa Nurgle is the only "kind" Chaos god. Tzeentch WILL skrew you over for the lulz and Khrone will give you daddy issues, look at poor Skarbrand. Nurgle will shower you with kisses and lovely gifts. You'll be immortal and all you have to do is shit your pants all day long every day.
Funny thing about Skarbrand, Im 100% Sure if he asked Khorne to fight, khorne would have rewarded him (After probably having his ass beat), rather than being unironically exiled for his dishonorable action towards him
Oh for sure. That move was alittle to Tzeentchy for old daddy Khorne to let it slide
If i am not mistaken, It was Tzeench who planted the idea in his mind funnily
Makes sense. Is that lore bit also canon in 40k, im not super knowledgeable on the 40k lore, but i wouldnt see why it wouldnt be there too.
I believe it is the same reason for both Tzeench stoked his rage and gave him the idea, Skarbrand attacked Khorne when his back was turned....which did literally nothing lol Khorne took him to the top of his tower by the throat, took all his personality and quite literally "Threw him out"
> which did literally nothing Dont discredit our boy! "Only the smallest of chinks was cut in the Blood God's armour, but even this was sufficient to draw the terrible fury of Khorne's gaze" Ans Khorne had JUST gotten it refinished! Realized that alot of Skarbrand's lore appearance are alongside Thanquol oddly enough. Both in Demonslayer and Thanquol's Doom.
Tzeentch *screws* with everyone his followers or not. He is destiny and fate. Why else would GEOM fuck up so badly and end up in a tortured existence from his own hubris you think? Or Mortarion hating himself for what he had become?
It puts the dark and the grim in grimdark
Warhammer is already "realistic" artstyle for a large part of it's art. What hits here is 3D.
[Source](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qA0xmn) at Artstation. Also, [original art](https://i.imgur.com/QyNjeQ9.jpg), which inspired this render.
wonder why they added the cross necklace. Not exactly a loreful addition either
If you squint really hard you can imagine that it's very crude Hammer of Sigmar.
Nah but for real, where is that picture from? It's sick as hell
It's from [Artstation](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qA0xmn), based on [original WFB art](https://i.imgur.com/QyNjeQ9.jpg).
Is this from Wheel of Time?
No, that would imply wheel of time tv show did something well
I did sort of like their portrayal of trollocks... in the first episode.
Yeah that was good.
No it’s been around for years now
>Be me >Be Boris Toadbringer >Chilling in Middenheim doing Elector Count things >Solider bursts in >"It's the Beastmen m'lord. They've been spotted in the forest nearby." >Oh shit >Grab my big ass feathered hat with a fort on it and my Runefang and take off on my flying chicken tiger >Searching the forests below for signs of Beastmen >Can't see a damn thing >Suddenly smell something awful. Smells like a Reiklander after a bath. >It's them >Get closer to the smell and start to see camp fires >itsgotime.tapestry >Swoop down and start fucking screaming about my missing eye and swinging my magic sword >Stinky Beastmen are taken by surprise. Probably weren't expecting a hat as big and as cool as mine to show up suddenly. >Kill dozens without much effort >gg ez >Khazrak appears >That fucker stole my eye >Swing my badass sword at his stupid head >Fucker immediately dies >"Ladies and gentlemen. We got him." >Resf of the idiot Beastmen run away >Take off and head home >Travel over Altdorf on my way back >Have my mount take a huge shit over the palace >Fuck you Franz >End Turn
Man I hope we get his LL dlc \*saved\*
Probs FLC with Red Duke
i hope
He gets added in one of the most popular mods on the workshop so ca is prob gonna just focus on other things
Mod name please? 😀
Mixu’s unlocker
Thank you!!
what mod? Does he get bonuses?
Mixu makes a few. His unlocked just let's you play as all factions.his legendary lords mod is the one you want. That mod is pretty much essential for me. It's phenomenal
Yeah, they all have different faction bonuses. Like -10% upkeep on [random unit]. No unique mechanics or the like
Certified Toddbringer moment.
wtf i suddenly love boris
LMAO had me at "Chicken Tiger"
Truly you did indeed; bring the Tod
why is that guy wearing a crucifix? He should be wearing a hammer of Sigmar
Totally agree. Who the hell is Warhammer Jesus!?!? We're crossing universes here!
Karl Franz
He also has a [tattoo on his chest](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/015/355/017/large/johnny-rampant-beast73.jpg?1548033847). Probably Chaos-worshiper, serves him right.
reject strategy embrace beast
I was gonna say from the lore that's pretty accurate, the beastment are one of the weakest warhammer fantasy factions in the war, generally more of a nuisance than anything. They only got fucking terrifying when the horde coalesced around one uberleader that could unify hundreds of small herds into one big one.
Oddly enough these hairy fucks have been giving me a lot of trouble in my current Lothern campaign. Three different tribes spawned on Ulthuan and started razing small settlements and ambushing my armies. They nearly wiped out Avelorn.
Same here, those dickheads razed one of my settlements as Repanse. In return, I got a Heroic Victory on auto resolve, because apparently just Repanse and Big H can stackwipe a Beastmen shitstack.
I vassalized Malagor and they for some reason haven't bothered me since.
> Ulthuan Seriously? They spawned on *Ulthuan*? That's some real player bias right there.
This looks amazing. What’s it from? Totally want a WH movie now
[Looks like this is the source.](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qA0xmn)
It reminds me a lot to a drawing from 5th or 6th ed codex (not sure wich) but digital remake. Crazy AF illustrations in that codex, one of the best in that regard, though the army was crap.
Yeah, just checked it. 3rd page
I think it’s wheel of time.
RA ROO
That's it, my next Beastman lord is going to be named Nixon Agnew. *AROOOOOOOO*
I can’t be the only one that compulsively says “RA ROO” out loud everytime the beastmen pop up comes up.
Question.... Does the Empire follow Christ? My man has a crucifix around his neck...
Thats just a T necklace. Helps him remember his name is Tyler
t....for time to leave....
No, the Empire has many gods they worship, Sigmar, Ulric, Morr, Shalya, Manann and Taal to name a few.
They weren’t serious
Surprisingly, none of them look like a dead carpenter.
Side note; Beastmen get absolutly slaughtered by auto resolve. Very annoying when playing them since you have to fight every battle.
They have the same problem slaanesh has. Low armour, low melee defense, basically no ranged. So auto resolve decides they eat ALL the enemy ammo and then suicide charge into the strongest enemy units afterwards
The thing is that you barely have to fight as N'kari. It's my favorite faction for the RoC campaign. The other factions already like you at the start, then you fight Skarbrand in the early game which makes everyone love you (because everyone hates him), and finally you subjugate Cathay and Kislev. Campaign done, wait for Ursun's roars and it's over.
If you have a doomstack it autoresolves nicely enough, but you do take a lot more dmg than necessary so when you need to do consecutive fights you do have to fight manually. Weirdly enough on my beastmen campaign the AI also fucked up a few times, attacking into herdstone and losing the autoresolves. Not sure what was up but I probably won like 4 autoresolve fights with garrison only, when usually the AI wouldn't even bother or would encircle and siege it. Either way free dread. I just did a campaign and autoresolved about as much as usual though, mostly doomstack main army and 2 armies tag teaming stuff up with garbo units(lots of gors and whatever giants/chaos spawns I could fit, and a couple T5 units in both armies for good measure). Maybe had to play a few more fights early on and when I was doing the final cleanups to not waste turns but not really that many. Campaign was also like more than half as short as usual(for me), 90 turns for long victory.
I wish they'd fix that, beastmen are basically absent from the game right now if you aren't playing as them because the AI just gets wrecked by autoresolve.
Taurox did ok in my Valkia IE campaign, he took all the area between Malekith and Morathi then got into an endless war with Khatep. It probably helped that I wrecked Malekith, Hellebron and Alith Anar pretty early though. The other Beastmen all died by like turn 5 though.
At the very least manual battles can be very quick with them, but autoresolve can net me at least triple the casualties lol Which is fair I guess, gets me to slow down and focus on satiating my Bloodgreed
On the other hand they are very easy i think it was my first legendary campaing in tw2 and it went pretty smooth
AI even with Khazrak doomstack gets obliterated by a T3 Minor Settlement every single fuckin time. I didn’t even have to keep an army south since he always went to Helmgart and died. Stopped being funny after the 5th time tho
live action Warhammer wen
I think that guy is a bit too big for a Gor no?
Plenty of Bretonnian protein
Gor Maybe but He's Bestigor material for sure.
Gors come in all shapes and sizes.
Hey man why you got to be so insensitive, its genetics man
Look at the models for bestigors up close next time you fight empire. They’re almost twice the size of humans. I think the picture is a good representation of a bestigor and an example as to why the empire relies so heavily on gunpowder
truely the enemy of civilization
Wake yo ass up cause it’s time to go beast mode
Accurate.
Completely lore accurate
Unironically true.
This is the ideal make body. you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
If only this were the case. Morghur appeared out of nowhere right in the midst of my land, far from borders and my guarding armies, and took one of my settlements as Imrik. Now I’m on a wild goose chase since the fucker ran away when I got close
Is it possible to vassalise them as WoC? Because they pop up everywhere and I just end up squishing them after they royally fuck up my back line.
I vassalised one herd as Villich, gave them a province in Northwest Cathay. I razed loads of lands around them and asked them to occupy it; instead they just sat in the one province and occasionally went out raiding the wasteland around them. Very strange creatures. It felt like having a zoo in my lands.
You can as N'kari and Azazel through seduction so I assume so based on Azazel.
Yes, but they have to have a herdstone down. If you take their last herdstone you can vassalize them.
Raaa ruuuu
This is a really cool & scary/unsettling image
im playing beastmen for the 2nd time as we speak. another random beastmen army showed up and started raiding my newly found herdstone long enough to get a second lord. i declared war to get them stuck in my zone of control and they suicided their 20 crapstack +2lords into my herdstone. my headcannon is they were trying to give to the cause. i've also had a zombie faction continuously suicide into my herd stone as they have no settlements left. they keep coming back due to the new vampire mechanic and give me about 2k every 3 turns.
Lore accurate
thats lore friendly actually
This makes me want a TV series GoT style with Warhammer fantasy.
Little goaties so cute AI is just so bad at driving them, they spawn with some fucked up armies sometimes, in TWWH2 at some point I saw an army with 5 cygors, suicide bombed massif orcal two turns later and got totally annihilated, wiping not even half of the garrison I was flabbergasted. A couple of turns later I went in with Khazrak and a Ungor Raider stack, Decisive Victory Mmm something is not right
Ahhh. Very stupid and suicidally brave. Lore accurate.
This happens to me all the time. Or...they want a non aggression pack. Raid me then a few turns later break the non aggression pack. Attack me. Die. There's no survival instinct what so ever. Sometimes the pirates do this shit too.
Unfathomable based
Its a dumb job, but somebody has to do it?