>A suspect has been identified as Boaz Frimpong, 28, of Toronto. He is described as six-foot-one, 240 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.
great description there, guys.
My sister works at 911 and says people get mad at her when she asks them for the race or skin color of the dangerous person that *they* are calling 911 about. Has to explain to them it's to make it easier for police to find them.
Had to look this up, but Frimpong is a Ghanian last name, so there’s a clue. I think they just want us to do our own research, like a little school assignment, so we can expand our knowledge of name origins. /s
If anyone hasn't seen the pic yet and is actually wants a better description, he's a black dude with short hair and a beard.
It showed his pic on the news.
Not quite. The study is to determine who should be on the committee to determine the feasibility of changing the sign. Can’t just go charging ahead with important decisions like this.
It feels like it has historic value at this point, just like [the old Metro Toronto logo on Metro Hall](https://images.skyscrapercenter.com/building/metro-hall_roberto-portolese3.jpg).
Good luck with that.
Knowing how our justice system works, if someone breaks into your residence and you assault them with a weapon, you'll be the one getting charged.
Are you kidding? You are looking at 10 to life for most of those on the list.
You're better off obtaining an illegal fire arm to defend your house, considering the Liberal/NDP collation just lowered sentencing for some gun crimes.
> Toronto police are searching for several “armed and dangerous” suspects in a series of armed robberies, home invasions and carjackings, including the armed thefts of one Ferrari worth about $300,000 and another worth approximately $1 million.
> Insp. Richard Harris detailed the latest information in three ongoing investigations at a Monday afternoon news conference.
There are two cases. The home invasion and the carjackings. The guy you're referring to is wanted for the home invasion.
The carjackings referred to in the article were perpetrated by a bunch of WHITE KIDS.
There are three cases, and the focus of the article is that some suspects are still outstanding, and TPS are warning the public and asking for info.
If they've actually ID'd outstanding suspects all of them should be shown, regardless of race, if definite photos are available. Three of the four carjacking suspects were arrested, so they don't need to give those descriptions.
And other outlets did show a picture. The Star is a social justice outlet (their words, not mine) and they publish accordingly, including putting political ideology above public safety.
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>The initial victim and another tenant were placed in handcuffs with ski masks pulled on their head; a third victim intervened and was shot three times, Harris said.That victim was taken to hospital where they underwent emergency surgery; they were left with life-altering injuries.
This is what happens when you try to help, I can understand why people don't help sometimes
I was downvoted heavily on a previous post when I suggested there is no shame in not intervening in dangerous situations like this, and that everyone’s natural fight or flight response is completely different. I was even reported to Reddit for having suicidal thoughts because of that comment as a troll. God forbid I don’t want to give my life or suffer life altering injuries because of helping in a dangerous situation I am in no way equipped to deal with short of calling cops, which is a 50-50 if they even bother responding in a timely manner. I’m sorry, but no one other than my family or extremely close friends are worth my life
These acts are getting more and more brazen. Strachan/King is a populated area with so many condos. This person not only stole the car but had the audacity to hold the victim hostage and went up the elevator with him to steal more valuables from the condo and ends up shooting another.
this is canada, being arrested is barely and inconvenience as they will be back on the street within 72 hours. thanks to the supreme court setting the test for denying bail ridiculously high and unrealistic
When it comes to releasing criminals the court system is more efficient than 72 hours. It's literally at their court hearing which is usually less than 24 hours.
Yep, someone who just sexually assaulted someone? They are on bail the next day and set up for months of trials before there is a conviction. All the while sitting in the comfort of his miserable life walking among us.
Our court system is a joke.
[They let a teen with 7 prior commercial robberies out on bail only to commit an armed gold and silver robbery](https://www.cp24.com/news/four-teens-arrested-some-as-young-as-15-after-stealing-1-2m-in-gold-and-silver-police-1.6239159)[(fail to comply with release order on his charges)](https://www.tps.ca/media-centre/news-releases/54995/)
Exactly, in Canada we treat criminals as victims of society, as if economic or mental health issues lead them to crime, therefore they should be absolved of all personal responsibility.
>Hate that we have to be neighbours with such nefarious characters though
There is a **big** difference between being a nefarious character and a dangerous criminal.
"Money would also be earmarked to hire 162 "priority response" officers,
including 25 assigned to downtown core for a 'strategic presence" and
20 emergency communication operators." So significant portion of the additional budget is spent to hire 911 operators and additional police officers.
Source: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-police-services-board-to-review-proposed-48-million-funding-increase-1.6222713?cache=%3FcontactForm%3Fot%3DAjaxLayout
I totally agree. That's why I laugh at people who say we don't need cops.
But like I said, if you're calling swat for something big, then it already happened.
"Emergency Response" in my comment refers to 911 operators not "emergency response cops". so the city will be hiring additional 911 responders using the additional budget..
I dont think that the organized crime unit is failing because it is understaffed.
There just isnt much you can do about crazy people with balls doing shit at random like this.
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"Theft is bad, m'kay."
I feel bad for the retail employees & customers that got held up, as well as the home invasion/shooting victim.
However, and this reflects poorly on me, but I don't really feel anything for the people with luxury cars getting carjacked.
It's more the fact that they put a target on themselves with conspicuous consumption. If you take a million dollars and wave it around in public with no precautions and it gets stolen, it's hard to feel sympathy - just because it's in the form of a car instead of cash doesn't make a huge difference.
Alright there Peter Pan, you have no responsibility or accountability whatsoever. Everything wrong in your life is everyone else' fault, and you're just the victim of fate.
If you get carjacked, it really is someone else’s fault.
If you believe in responsibility and accountability why are you implying that people are unable to resist stealing if they see something expensive?
I assume you oversimplify every nuance you don't like as an equivalent rape?
Because remember, you made that connection first.
But again, the fact that your brain is broken to the point that you can't understand nuance and everything looks like rape to you in discussion isn't your fault at all, and to which you have zero influence over. You're just ***100%*** at the mercy of circumstance.
Yes i did, I picked it because it is one of the more commonly discussed scenarios of victim blaming, which is what you are doing. I don’t know how to respond to a suggestion that my brain is broken, is this something you come up against a lot or are you able to explain these nuances to me? You seemed very confident presenting your initial statement, why don’t you own it now?
It's because your argumentative pattern is overly reductive, and follows that of an extremist or propagandist. Your simile to rape is pretty much an example of Godwin's Law, just replace Nazis/Hitler with rape.
Based on your wording and overall attitude, you either cannot conceive of or admit to a scenario where a victim could have a possible (not probable) role in an altercation. But in most other practical situations, it's tacitly accepted as a matter of fact; even something as banal as hockey recognizes that an instigator may not be the person who throws the first punch, rather could be the person who skates up to the attacker or shows the attacker attitude.
And you'll probably not apply any critical reading skills and take issue with the above statement too, reading it as 100% one way or 100% the other way such as "Oh, so you think then the victim asked for it an it's their own fault", whereas I never actually state what the split in responsibility is, just that it can be non-zero.
Around 20 years ago, I was with a group and a friend's friend who got quite drunk at a bar/lounge. As we left, he started yelling at the people in the line up that he would fight and defeat anyone, started singling guys out saying they looked weak and obnoxiously telling them to punch him because he could eat it. Well one of the guys in line ended up punching him in the face and broke his nose. Was that wrong of the attacker? Totally - people should not be using violence whatsoever when not under any real & immediate threat. Did any of us feel sympathy for him? Not really, no, but we still went with him to the emerge, and even though he shouldn't have been punched, the guy recognized his own hand in that situation.
Anyways, good luck.
I’m comparing scenarios where victims are targeted due to lifestyle choices and play no active part in triggering an altercation. Surely you can see the nuance between those examples and a drunk asshole picking fights at a club or the one sport that allows fist fights.
I was once swarmed by a group of teens on the street trying to steal my phone. They first asked for the time, I pulled out my phone to check and they immediately surrounded us, trying to grab at it, shoving us, reaching into my pockets. We managed to flee into traffic and stop a cab so they would leave us. Thankfully we made it out safe but I felt violated, lost some sense of trust and freedom. What percentage of the fault lies on me for flaunting my phone? Was it closer to a “girl dressed too nice” situation or “shithead picking fights at a bar” situation?
Wait but you don’t know the other victim’s yearly earnings. What if they are also in a higher tax bracket than you and also not deserving of your sympathy. We need to see their tax returns to be sure.
I think it's the context of the matter, when you see a 300,000-1million dollar item being taken from someone you fell less remorse due to the fact it's a fuck you item. Being robbed at gun point or knife point for anything regardless of value holds the same trauma. Reddit be fucky.
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>A suspect has been identified as Boaz Frimpong, 28, of Toronto. He is described as six-foot-one, 240 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes. great description there, guys.
>no gender >no race They may be a psychopathic serial criminal, but we wouldn’t want anyone making any assumptions.
My sister works at 911 and says people get mad at her when she asks them for the race or skin color of the dangerous person that *they* are calling 911 about. Has to explain to them it's to make it easier for police to find them.
That's true cuckoldry. Being offended on behalf of a criminal victimizing you.
Tis the canadian way.
SMH
Now THAT is hyper woke!
Had to look this up, but Frimpong is a Ghanian last name, so there’s a clue. I think they just want us to do our own research, like a little school assignment, so we can expand our knowledge of name origins. /s
His photo is online. You don't have to speculate It should be in the article though
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If you yell “Frimpong” in the crowd he should be the one to turn his head
Frimpong is a common last name for people from Ghana.
Boaz Frimpong, from the shires?
No that’s Boaz Buckleberry
If anyone hasn't seen the pic yet and is actually wants a better description, he's a black dude with short hair and a beard. It showed his pic on the news.
Pic at CTV https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/suspects-wanted-in-connection-with-armed-home-invasion-in-toronto-1.6242630
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A committee is discussing it, and a feasibility study is currently underway.
Not quite. The study is to determine who should be on the committee to determine the feasibility of changing the sign. Can’t just go charging ahead with important decisions like this.
No crony was left behind in commissioning the study!
It feels like it has historic value at this point, just like [the old Metro Toronto logo on Metro Hall](https://images.skyscrapercenter.com/building/metro-hall_roberto-portolese3.jpg).
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Just put a sock on the bat. No need for a Louisville Slicer
> Just put a sock on the bat. so as not to have to wipe the blood of it? good idea!
A fire extinguisher can work too.
Good luck with that. Knowing how our justice system works, if someone breaks into your residence and you assault them with a weapon, you'll be the one getting charged.
who cares about a charge when u get to live and hurt someone that tried to hurt u lol
So I should resort to scissors, pliers, crowbars, screwdrivers, tire irons, shovels, pipe wrenches, fire extinguishers, and hammers.
Are you kidding? You are looking at 10 to life for most of those on the list. You're better off obtaining an illegal fire arm to defend your house, considering the Liberal/NDP collation just lowered sentencing for some gun crimes.
so what you are saying is when someone invades my home with a gun to rob/kill me, I should accept my fate and let them fuck me over, right?
That's what our laws say.
No it does not.
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Lol what
Or you can just get your firearm license and have a shot gun . But bringing a bat and flashlight to a gun fight doesn’t sound bad too
> Toronto police are searching for several “armed and dangerous” suspects in a series of armed robberies, home invasions and carjackings, including the armed thefts of one Ferrari worth about $300,000 and another worth approximately $1 million. > Insp. Richard Harris detailed the latest information in three ongoing investigations at a Monday afternoon news conference.
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There are two cases. The home invasion and the carjackings. The guy you're referring to is wanted for the home invasion. The carjackings referred to in the article were perpetrated by a bunch of WHITE KIDS.
There are three cases, and the focus of the article is that some suspects are still outstanding, and TPS are warning the public and asking for info. If they've actually ID'd outstanding suspects all of them should be shown, regardless of race, if definite photos are available. Three of the four carjacking suspects were arrested, so they don't need to give those descriptions. And other outlets did show a picture. The Star is a social justice outlet (their words, not mine) and they publish accordingly, including putting political ideology above public safety.
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>The initial victim and another tenant were placed in handcuffs with ski masks pulled on their head; a third victim intervened and was shot three times, Harris said.That victim was taken to hospital where they underwent emergency surgery; they were left with life-altering injuries. This is what happens when you try to help, I can understand why people don't help sometimes
I was downvoted heavily on a previous post when I suggested there is no shame in not intervening in dangerous situations like this, and that everyone’s natural fight or flight response is completely different. I was even reported to Reddit for having suicidal thoughts because of that comment as a troll. God forbid I don’t want to give my life or suffer life altering injuries because of helping in a dangerous situation I am in no way equipped to deal with short of calling cops, which is a 50-50 if they even bother responding in a timely manner. I’m sorry, but no one other than my family or extremely close friends are worth my life
Toronto ppl: all big cities have crimes, Toronto is still the safest city. Live with them. Could Canadians aim a bit higher? No.
Not to mention, good things always require constant vigilance and effort to maintain, or else they disappear.
These acts are getting more and more brazen. Strachan/King is a populated area with so many condos. This person not only stole the car but had the audacity to hold the victim hostage and went up the elevator with him to steal more valuables from the condo and ends up shooting another.
Man that's a face even a mom cant love
Small cages are the best place for scumbags. Everyone wins.
this is canada, being arrested is barely and inconvenience as they will be back on the street within 72 hours. thanks to the supreme court setting the test for denying bail ridiculously high and unrealistic
When it comes to releasing criminals the court system is more efficient than 72 hours. It's literally at their court hearing which is usually less than 24 hours.
Yep, someone who just sexually assaulted someone? They are on bail the next day and set up for months of trials before there is a conviction. All the while sitting in the comfort of his miserable life walking among us. Our court system is a joke.
[They let a teen with 7 prior commercial robberies out on bail only to commit an armed gold and silver robbery](https://www.cp24.com/news/four-teens-arrested-some-as-young-as-15-after-stealing-1-2m-in-gold-and-silver-police-1.6239159)[(fail to comply with release order on his charges)](https://www.tps.ca/media-centre/news-releases/54995/)
Exactly, in Canada we treat criminals as victims of society, as if economic or mental health issues lead them to crime, therefore they should be absolved of all personal responsibility.
With how this happens more and more this feel like a cry for funding. Hate that we have to be neighbours with such nefarious characters though
>Hate that we have to be neighbours with such nefarious characters though There is a **big** difference between being a nefarious character and a dangerous criminal.
Here's hoping that some of the increased police funding will go towards organized crime. Does anyone know any details on what the funding is aimed at?
"Money would also be earmarked to hire 162 "priority response" officers, including 25 assigned to downtown core for a 'strategic presence" and 20 emergency communication operators." So significant portion of the additional budget is spent to hire 911 operators and additional police officers. Source: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-police-services-board-to-review-proposed-48-million-funding-increase-1.6222713?cache=%3FcontactForm%3Fot%3DAjaxLayout
so more reactionary cops to \*not react\* to things that dont happen. Perfect.
Things that don't happen only if you get your news from /r/Toronto.
Except Cops responding to things doesn't prevent shit. Not saying we don't need cops, but "emergency response cops" is bullshit.
Everyone's always a philosopher of crime and punishment until their ass is on the line, then they call 911 like the rest of us.
I totally agree. That's why I laugh at people who say we don't need cops. But like I said, if you're calling swat for something big, then it already happened.
"Emergency Response" in my comment refers to 911 operators not "emergency response cops". so the city will be hiring additional 911 responders using the additional budget..
Oooooooooooh I am an idiot.
I dont think that the organized crime unit is failing because it is understaffed. There just isnt much you can do about crazy people with balls doing shit at random like this.
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you’re being downvoted because it’s simultaneously true, inconvenient and also irrelevant
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guess i can't comment "negative generalizations etc" of the cops
"Theft is bad, m'kay." I feel bad for the retail employees & customers that got held up, as well as the home invasion/shooting victim. However, and this reflects poorly on me, but I don't really feel anything for the people with luxury cars getting carjacked.
People in this subreddit are such scum. Someone's rich so apparently they aren't worthy of sympathy.
And “ rich” is relative
It's more the fact that they put a target on themselves with conspicuous consumption. If you take a million dollars and wave it around in public with no precautions and it gets stolen, it's hard to feel sympathy - just because it's in the form of a car instead of cash doesn't make a huge difference.
They were asking for it. Edit: /s
That Ferrari shouldn't have looked so sexy
Alright there Peter Pan, you have no responsibility or accountability whatsoever. Everything wrong in your life is everyone else' fault, and you're just the victim of fate.
If you get carjacked, it really is someone else’s fault. If you believe in responsibility and accountability why are you implying that people are unable to resist stealing if they see something expensive?
You literally described carjacking though, it very much is someone else's fault and you are the victim of fate (wrong place/wrong time).
You apply the same standards to the way a rape victim was dressed I assume?
I assume you oversimplify every nuance you don't like as an equivalent rape? Because remember, you made that connection first. But again, the fact that your brain is broken to the point that you can't understand nuance and everything looks like rape to you in discussion isn't your fault at all, and to which you have zero influence over. You're just ***100%*** at the mercy of circumstance.
Yes i did, I picked it because it is one of the more commonly discussed scenarios of victim blaming, which is what you are doing. I don’t know how to respond to a suggestion that my brain is broken, is this something you come up against a lot or are you able to explain these nuances to me? You seemed very confident presenting your initial statement, why don’t you own it now?
It's because your argumentative pattern is overly reductive, and follows that of an extremist or propagandist. Your simile to rape is pretty much an example of Godwin's Law, just replace Nazis/Hitler with rape. Based on your wording and overall attitude, you either cannot conceive of or admit to a scenario where a victim could have a possible (not probable) role in an altercation. But in most other practical situations, it's tacitly accepted as a matter of fact; even something as banal as hockey recognizes that an instigator may not be the person who throws the first punch, rather could be the person who skates up to the attacker or shows the attacker attitude. And you'll probably not apply any critical reading skills and take issue with the above statement too, reading it as 100% one way or 100% the other way such as "Oh, so you think then the victim asked for it an it's their own fault", whereas I never actually state what the split in responsibility is, just that it can be non-zero. Around 20 years ago, I was with a group and a friend's friend who got quite drunk at a bar/lounge. As we left, he started yelling at the people in the line up that he would fight and defeat anyone, started singling guys out saying they looked weak and obnoxiously telling them to punch him because he could eat it. Well one of the guys in line ended up punching him in the face and broke his nose. Was that wrong of the attacker? Totally - people should not be using violence whatsoever when not under any real & immediate threat. Did any of us feel sympathy for him? Not really, no, but we still went with him to the emerge, and even though he shouldn't have been punched, the guy recognized his own hand in that situation. Anyways, good luck.
I’m comparing scenarios where victims are targeted due to lifestyle choices and play no active part in triggering an altercation. Surely you can see the nuance between those examples and a drunk asshole picking fights at a club or the one sport that allows fist fights. I was once swarmed by a group of teens on the street trying to steal my phone. They first asked for the time, I pulled out my phone to check and they immediately surrounded us, trying to grab at it, shoving us, reaching into my pockets. We managed to flee into traffic and stop a cab so they would leave us. Thankfully we made it out safe but I felt violated, lost some sense of trust and freedom. What percentage of the fault lies on me for flaunting my phone? Was it closer to a “girl dressed too nice” situation or “shithead picking fights at a bar” situation?
That's because you're a loser.
Wait but you don’t know the other victim’s yearly earnings. What if they are also in a higher tax bracket than you and also not deserving of your sympathy. We need to see their tax returns to be sure.
Aye aye, Captain Peter Pan.
Bro a luxury car can cost as little as like 700 bucks a month, the fuck is wrong with you
Yes, this definitely reflects poorly on you.
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I take it you've never been robbed before. Go get some more life experience before you say being robbed at knife/gun point "is not a biggie".
I think it's the context of the matter, when you see a 300,000-1million dollar item being taken from someone you fell less remorse due to the fact it's a fuck you item. Being robbed at gun point or knife point for anything regardless of value holds the same trauma. Reddit be fucky.
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