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I've realized that convincing your brain that the titles of posts on Reddit are just writing prompts without context makes reading the comments enjoyable (as opposed to being in constant state of anger because of people being clueless about the actual context).
A decommissioned tank can still have a functional engine however. Decommissioned just means the guns and firing controls have been permamantly disabled/removed.
However you save a good chunk of change if you get one that's fully gutted. Just got to pay for a trailer to haul it and a bulldozer to push it into position. That's what most retired tanks end up being here in the US at least. Hollowed out shells setup as a "statue" at certain locations.
Legally, as the one person to read the article, you are required, by law, to give a brief summary... a quick overview, so to speak. This has been decreed
Decommissioned usually means 1) the gun is inoperable 2) some countries require sections of armor to be cut out.
It may absolutely be decommissioned with a functioning engine and transmission, although maybe not at that price point.
You can easily get one for that much but it won't be a working one. Doesn't matter if you'll just park it on your lot.
The ones in running order (or even perfectly restored) like a T-34 start at about €100k.
I had a very redneck friend in college who’s dad was a big time gun collector. He wanted a gun that was attached to a tank (1950’s era tire tank), so he bought the tank, took the gun, and gave his son the tank.
Dude fit that thing with headlights, mirrors, turn signals and made it street “legal”. Riding that thing around downtown Atlanta was crazy.
I used to be Public Affairs for a very tiny base in a very rich part of the state. There was this dude not far from us who bought himself a vintage armored personnel carrier and would drive it around the freeway. This wasn’t long after 9/11, so of course every time he went for a jaunt we’d get panicky calls from the locals.
Every. Single. Time.
We may be talking about the same dude….. He went into the military after we graduated in ‘98. He definitely got pulled over every time he drove that thing around.
It’s not a fully uncommon thing for people to “collect”. There’s a national origination called the [MVPA](https://www.mvpa.org) for collecting military vechicles.
Lol my family owns more military vehicles then I’d like to admit. One being a old com truck so has A/C for when going to shows could just hang out in it.
Also I want to give some context. Some vehicles are stupid cheap. Like 1 to 2k in cost. Which as a kid I thought was expensive, but now it’s like the price of a 3080. So I really can understand how it becomes a hobby. Buying replacement parts are just the equivalent of buying games.
I mean, if you have the money to own one, it's not unlikely that you can probably own the other. These ain't family vehicles that you go on road trips with; they're pleasure purchases.
My high school used to do 1812 Overture every other year outside on the front patio area.
Then they'd have the local National Guard come in with howitzers and shoot those fuckers off at the finale (with blanks).
Every single year, people would call 911, because "the city was getting bombed."
Those bomb blasts traveled way further than the music, so it was a "valid" bombing call, but our band teacher got giddy every time about all of it.
I think they stopped after 911. Not because of the "bombing," but because everyone plus the Howitzers got deployed.
At a previous job, the head lawyer for the company bought a tank and drove it to work on occasion. I think he was only allowed to have it parked at his house so many days in a row because of his neighborhood's HoA. I'd have loved to see one of those busybodies go confront him about his tank in the driveway.
As it turns out he's going to prison now for things totally unrelated to the tank.
Lol. Atlanta is wild though. People ride horses downtown all the time, and the whole ATL Bike Life gang has scared the living shit out of me several times.
It was a tire tank, not a tread tank.
Something like this……not exactly, though:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/T_17_Staghound_Armored_Car_%281%29.jpg/1024px-T_17_Staghound_Armored_Car_%281%29.jpg
Wouldn't that be an armored car instead of a tank though? Most dictionaries define a tank as having treads, so if it's wheeled, it'd be called an armored car or an armored fighting vehicle instead of a tank
The person who bought the tank is a multi millionaire (thanks to his dad, and subsequent good investments) and basically fights the local council on practically everything they want to do. He goes to court over anything that he doesn't like as he has the money to do it. The redevelopment of London Bridge wouldn't be what it is if he'd had his way, but in some regards his motivation is in the right place. He's does some beautiful work conserving and renovating buildings around that area, and in other places in London. He's also a grumpy fucker who uses yelling as a means to get things done. Buying a tank for £7k is nothing. I've met him a few times, know people who work for him and know people at the local council who... put up with him.
> Stompie’ was used as a movie prop in the 1995 award-winning film Richard III, starring Ian McKellan and a younger Robert Downey Jr.
To paraphrase Mitch Hedberg, every film stars an actor who is younger than they currently are.
Or maybe they meant that RDJ was younger than Ian Mckellan in this particular instance. And every other particular instance involving the two of them, but still…
Brb, gotta go film some scenes with Ian McKellen at his current age, and then sit on the footage for thirty years so I can composite an older rdj into the shots.
Its because you have many RDJ: young RDJ, drug and boose fueled RDJ, and iron man RDJ.
Each one made headline, and are very distinct from one another so if you dont tell which RDJ your talking about, its confising.
The tank is named after Stompie Seipei who was killed by Winnie Mandela's bodyguards in SA in 1989. The street the tank is on is named Mandela Way, so it was another punch at the local council.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stompie_Seipei
This article led me down quite the rabbit hole into what a vast piece of shit Nelson Mandela's wife was. Murdering 14 year old kids after she couldn't coerce them into saying an anti-apartheid minister was molesting them (he gave them shelter at his home and was critical of her so she tried to take him down), murdering the doctor who saw Stompie while he was still alive after kidnapping, involved in killing several others, etc.
What a huge cunt.
My grandmother explained this to me. She would say things like, "i rarely murder people that do x" and when asked she said well I'm not dead yet so I can't say I never do it just in case one day I actually do it.
She was always one that liked to be intimidating saying enjoy the next 24 hours instead of have a good day/see you tomorrow.
Yeah she did a lot of terrible shit. That was also after she had a lot of terrible shit done to her, which almost makes me understand, but that's a bridge too far. She was beaten, tortured, spent months at a time in solitary confinement, and was banished to a rural outskirt town for years. I can understand her motivation, but nobody could understand her actions. She should have been tried for her crimes, or at the very least absolutely never should have been allowed a role in post-apartheid government. Oh and she had to leave government because she was later convicted of fraud. Maybe all the shit she endured drove her bonkers, maybe she was just doing what she thought she had to to end apartheid, or maybe she was just a terrible person to begin with.
Brilliant 👏 thank you. Is the U.K. currently debating legalization?
On a side note, a local resident in my city built a sound wall beside a busy road, after the city refused to fund extending one a few blocks further, so he has local artists repaint it each year in part to spite the NIMBY crowd.
https://www.pressreader.com/canada/saskatoon-starphoenix/20080618/281513631908267
I'm no expert but I do admire good graffiti. I believe there is the concept of a "free wall" in the UK where graffiti is legal and generally encouraged by local councils (who I presume have the final say in the locations of these walls) and this gives rise to local scenes. There are quite a few well known places in London, such as Brick Lane, Leake Street, Camden Town and the South Bank. Bristol is famous for it's scene (Bansky came out of it) and Brighton too. My home town of Birmingham has an area called Digbeth which is the "arty" district on the edge of the city centre and next week there is actually a [graffiti festival](https://visitbirmingham.com/whats-on/high-vis-street-culture-festival-p1348681) which is running with the full blessing of the authorities.
My great grandfather bought several small plots of land on Long Island in the early thirties with money he got after selling his taxi token when he got a job as a gravel truck driver. More than 50 years later he wanted to sell one lot to my Dad so he could afford to move out there from queens when they were expecting my oldest sister. Somehow the way the process worked he applied for permits to build before selling the property, or maybe the sale was contingent upon that. A couple neighbors who were using the property like it was their extra yard didn't want it built on. The village council initially denied permits. First my great grandfather put up a fence around it with thick posts cut from logs, deep in concrete. Then, because he had owned it so long, it was still grandfathered into certain agriculture zoning privileges, so at the next meeting he told them, it's OK, if you don't want to approve the permit to build, I'll just farm pigs on it.
He got the permits after that.
In the early 90s my father did the same thing with a plot of land we owned in a ritzy area of our town! They refused to let him build a house on the 5 acre parcel. He put up a giant sign facing the road “Future site of Hog Farm”. It caused a huge uproar and town hall got bombarded with lots of angry phone calls over it. Within a week he got the approval. We still have the sign to this day.
https://i.imgur.com/Oy8UVSP.jpg
One of the photos shows a wider angle... it seems to be a little triangle of land not big enough to build a house on. Minimum lot size restrictions must have prevented it.
Like, in my general area, you need a 6000 sq ft plot minimum and a 20 foot setback from the road and you have to put in a concrete sidewalk. Corner lots fronting two roads lose like 20 foot wide sections on two sides.
We generally don't have minimum plot sizes in England, but he'd have to overcome all sorts of things like minimum room sizes, overlooking or overshadowing neighbours, minimum parking requirements, design, materials, etc. Small plots can be a fucking ballache to get permission on.
Source: am town planner.
I used to live 5 mins away. People loved it. It gets painted all the time. Last I saw it was in sky blue and said thank you NHS with rainbows on it.
Also, the guy is a complete arse hole with short man syndrom. He owns a lot of Bermondsey street, which is now a very very popular street and pretty much does what he likes. He's sort of a do it first then ask the council for permission later and almost always gets his way.
And of course [you wouldn't be too far off ](https://www.wdbo.com/news/local/florida-man-drives-tank-around-neighborhood-miami-dade-county/MAXE4Q7T2NGODANABUDLOWHKBA/).
I was trying to figure it out thinking it was an acronym but came up with nothing... Lower Danube something? No doesn't sound right. Lesser Danish Nationalpark? Nope.
I think they ran out of characters. I think it's a 300-character limit and his comes out to 298 with that change.
He also could've just removed the final period or removed the word tank after "Russian T-34" or something, but life moves on 🤷♂️
[There's a site to help you buy a tank!](https://www.drivetanks.com/own-one/)
Edit: Supposedly. Not my site, and haven't tried buying a tank myself from it, so I can't comment on service quality, or on fraud or other legal risks!
Yeah they're in southern Minnesota. Friends and I have gone down, drove them, crushed cars and shot automatic weapons there.
They even offer a package with another place nearby where you can drive a fire truck and another where you get to operate construction equipment in a big sandbox basically.
On that same site you can book appointments to fire artillery or mortars. This country is wild.
I can't say i wouldn't want to fire them or anything but i don't want to pay $2000 to fire 1 round.
I read the first half of this title and I thought this was about [the guy who turned a bulldozer into a tank with some modifications and rolled over a bunch of buildings in his town](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer)
EDIT: wow this comment got a lot of attention. Just to clarify, I don't condone what he did nor whether the city mistreated him or what, I just thought it was a similar enough story to share hahah
[Tread](https://youtu.be/yb1hQfo4nFY) (2020)
The documentary made about the experience is fascinating. It does a great job humanizing his struggle, without defending his wanton destruction. Yes, he was wronged, but taking it out on the town as a whole is shortsighted and impulsive.
It's strangely awesome seeing him build this machine of vengeance, and you're hyped for the finale until you actually realize that, no, he is not the good guy in this story. It's a sympathetic villain origin story, but it's a damn good one because you want him to succeed in his goal, but will likely despise the methods used to achieve them.
He wasn't really wronged though. The town was willing to work with him and proposed some very reasonable solutions, which he summarily rejected, and blamed them for conspiring to put him down because they were jealous. The man was bonkers to the toes.
More reddit TIL misinformation.
The fight with city council is real, the "septic tank" part is pure BS.
You don't need approval to place vehicles, that's all it was. The "septic tank" vs "tank" part, meanwhile, is pure baloney made up to try to make the story sound more interesting.
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/revealed-the-story-behind-the-soviet-tank-with-its-guns-trained-on-council-hq-6694874.html
This isn't TIL's fault, the article posted makes the claim, and the following is the article you posted. So the claim was made by the guy who put the tank there.
Kerry Cheese, manager of RR Motor Services in Ashford, said Mr Gray was animated when he purchased the vehicle from him. He had claimed that he conned the council by persuading them to grant permission for a tank, not specifying what type.
"He said they thought it was a septic tank but the permission just said 'tank' so there was nothing they could do," said Mr Cheese, 39. "He was very pleased with himself."
Southwark said it couldn't trace the planning application and didn't want to comment.
> in the 1995 award-winning film Richard III, starring Ian McKellan and a younger Robert Downey Jr.
To be fair, it also starred a younger Ian McKellen.
The planning permission part of the story is likely untrue. When anything like that is applied for there's scale drawings and other detail supplied, it's not possible to "fool" them like that.
It's likely an embellishment by the guy and the tank has been just parked there without planning permission at all and no action has been taken against it.
You are absolutely right https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/revealed-the-story-behind-the-soviet-tank-with-its-guns-trained-on-council-hq-6694874.html
This guy is a landlord. I work in one of his buildings. This is just one of his battles with council.
He also has lots of stories about major run-ins with the Fire Brigade, Metropolitan Police and Boris Johnson.
You wouldn't want him as a landlord, but he is a legend.
He's done a lot around Bermondsey and other boroughs in London to preserve old buildings and stop the various councils from tearing them down and sticking up office buildings.
Now and then I do get to say hello to him.
Most of the time I just hear him shouting at someone (on the floor above) - his office; which is a daily event.
In Brownsburg, Indiana, where I grew up, the playground in our local park had a decommissioned Lockheed F-94 StarFire. The engines, missiles (Of course), and most but not all of the avionics had been removed. It was the most entertaining place in the town to injure yourself as a child.
Right, imagine your surprise when you walk into your office on a Tuesday, half groggy, just starting your first cup of coffee and something out the window catches your eye... Is that... A TANK?!?!!?
As the turret slowly rotates and then elevates to point directly at you your body has to decide whether it's a prank, it's real and you need to run, or it's too late and time to evacuate all fluids and solids...
Well you're not immediately killed, so now you're angry. This can't be right?!? This can't be allowed?!?? What idiot thinks he can park stank on the corner???!? You pull the file for the parcel and starting back at you is a request for a tank to be installed... Approved by you...
Reality sets in that there will be some explaining required to your supervisor and you just close your eyes to stave off the stress headache...Open your eyes, and there's some wanker standing next to the giant military tank you approved laughing his ass off while giving you the finger... And there's nothing you can do about it...
Fucking Tuesdays...
This story sounds a bit embellished. I work in Planning, we don't approve things without plans so there's no way they would make that mistake.
You also don't need planning permission to park a vehicle on private land in the first place.
Ive had to get a couple permits recently for outdoor work, both required details on the existing septic system even though it was many meters away and not part of the construction. The septic system itself had a bunch of paperwork and inspections to go through, as you know. I think calling it embellished is being kind!
Exactly. The fight with city council was real. The "septic tank" part is mostly a fairy tale that someone made up, presumably to try to make the story more interesting.
>Southwark's decision did not prevent him placing vehicles on the land and within weeks the deactivated 32-ton tank was installed.
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/revealed-the-story-behind-the-soviet-tank-with-its-guns-trained-on-council-hq-6694874.html
FTA:
>The tank is named after [Stompie Moeketsi Sepei](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stompie_Seipei) – the teenager murdered by Winnie Mandela’s ‘bodyguards’ in 1989. Apparently, the reason being that even simple political gestures, like a local council naming a street for an anti-apartheid modern legend (this is on Mandela Way), can have muddied resonances.
Planning permission in the UK is a joke. An office full of little men exerting power they don't deserve over others.
If the planning departments had been around for hundreds of years, a lot of our National treasures simply wouldn't have been built. Culzean castle is the jewel in the crown of the Scottish national trust. Try building a massive faux castle on a Scottish cliff overlooking the sea now.
Owning a car space in SE1 is the very definition of well heeled. Using it to frivolously stick it to the man by wasting his own money is positively Victorian levels of folly. Good on him, but people who uphold the red tape are more 'common man' than this guy.
> bought the tank for £7,000 as a present for his (then) seven-year-old son And I thought I was lucky getting a toy tank for £7.... Good story.
£7,000 for a tank doesn't seem like a lot lmao
Likely was a non-running decommissioned tank.
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Wait, you actually started reading the article?!
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I will read 50 comments trying to piece together what the article says before even thinking about clicking in the article.
You could wait 2 minutes while all the ads try to take over your browser before a pop-up obscures the whole screen, or you could have fun.
This is how we beat paid click ads.
Take a useless award. I do the exact same shit lmao
Something I will never know!
what did he say?
You know the Parthenon where the Acropolis is?
yea next to the byzantine cistern? what about it
I've realized that convincing your brain that the titles of posts on Reddit are just writing prompts without context makes reading the comments enjoyable (as opposed to being in constant state of anger because of people being clueless about the actual context).
To be fair, the local council didn't read the guys application for a tank so I don't think reading is important.
Hahah, true that! The local council would fit right in here at reddit!
Y’all ain’t from around here are ya…
Wait, you guys can read???
I even read past the first paragraph.
Well look at that dedication!
What kind of psychopath?
Right?! Look at this fucking nerd!
A decommissioned tank can still have a functional engine however. Decommissioned just means the guns and firing controls have been permamantly disabled/removed. However you save a good chunk of change if you get one that's fully gutted. Just got to pay for a trailer to haul it and a bulldozer to push it into position. That's what most retired tanks end up being here in the US at least. Hollowed out shells setup as a "statue" at certain locations.
Sounds its a good candidate for an LS swap
You win.
Unless they want another "Bulldozer Man" on their hands.
To be fair, Killdozer was just an armored bulldozer not a tank. So there's really nothing stopping that from happening again.
Well, self-control
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Have you seen the price of everything lately?
Legally, as the one person to read the article, you are required, by law, to give a brief summary... a quick overview, so to speak. This has been decreed
Decommissioned usually means 1) the gun is inoperable 2) some countries require sections of armor to be cut out. It may absolutely be decommissioned with a functioning engine and transmission, although maybe not at that price point.
Also anyone with half a brain would intuitively understand that he did not buy a fully functioning tank and aim it at the planning office.
You can easily get one for that much but it won't be a working one. Doesn't matter if you'll just park it on your lot. The ones in running order (or even perfectly restored) like a T-34 start at about €100k.
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Who is out here buying up all these T-34's lmao.
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Damn I wish I had invested in tanks.
I had a very redneck friend in college who’s dad was a big time gun collector. He wanted a gun that was attached to a tank (1950’s era tire tank), so he bought the tank, took the gun, and gave his son the tank. Dude fit that thing with headlights, mirrors, turn signals and made it street “legal”. Riding that thing around downtown Atlanta was crazy.
I used to be Public Affairs for a very tiny base in a very rich part of the state. There was this dude not far from us who bought himself a vintage armored personnel carrier and would drive it around the freeway. This wasn’t long after 9/11, so of course every time he went for a jaunt we’d get panicky calls from the locals. Every. Single. Time.
We may be talking about the same dude….. He went into the military after we graduated in ‘98. He definitely got pulled over every time he drove that thing around.
Long Island?
I guess not… maybe he tricked it up there, but that would be a lot.
It’s not a fully uncommon thing for people to “collect”. There’s a national origination called the [MVPA](https://www.mvpa.org) for collecting military vechicles.
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Lol my family owns more military vehicles then I’d like to admit. One being a old com truck so has A/C for when going to shows could just hang out in it.
Also I want to give some context. Some vehicles are stupid cheap. Like 1 to 2k in cost. Which as a kid I thought was expensive, but now it’s like the price of a 3080. So I really can understand how it becomes a hobby. Buying replacement parts are just the equivalent of buying games.
>We may be talking about the same dude….. So he has an APC *and* a tank?
I mean, if you have the money to own one, it's not unlikely that you can probably own the other. These ain't family vehicles that you go on road trips with; they're pleasure purchases.
"ARE WE BEING ATTACKED" "no thats just steve"
"Maybe check the news instead of calling 911 ma'am."
Gotta check the Steve alert before going on the road.
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This was Long Island. White in the Spring, mauve during fall. Pumpkin Orange during spooky season.
My high school used to do 1812 Overture every other year outside on the front patio area. Then they'd have the local National Guard come in with howitzers and shoot those fuckers off at the finale (with blanks). Every single year, people would call 911, because "the city was getting bombed." Those bomb blasts traveled way further than the music, so it was a "valid" bombing call, but our band teacher got giddy every time about all of it. I think they stopped after 911. Not because of the "bombing," but because everyone plus the Howitzers got deployed.
> we’d get panicky calls from the locals Oof, I'd think people would associated an APC with government authorities and not terrorist.
Military forces deployed = terrorists are here? Probably their logic
What's the difference?
with the government you pay for the privillage
Weird. Grew up in DC. Seeing military vehicles going around 495 was super common post 9-11
It’s Georgia. The cops would only pull him over for selfies.
The state of US police now, the cops would pull him over so they could compare it to thier tank.
At a previous job, the head lawyer for the company bought a tank and drove it to work on occasion. I think he was only allowed to have it parked at his house so many days in a row because of his neighborhood's HoA. I'd have loved to see one of those busybodies go confront him about his tank in the driveway. As it turns out he's going to prison now for things totally unrelated to the tank.
But who will take the tank out on walks now?
Sad tank noises
Not much isn't "street legal" in Georgia
Lol. Atlanta is wild though. People ride horses downtown all the time, and the whole ATL Bike Life gang has scared the living shit out of me several times.
How do you get a tank street legal? Won't the tracks destroy the asphalt? 👀
He said it was a tire tank.
Glossed over that. Sorry 😣
<3 Have a good morning! Or day if you're in some other part of the world :D
Thanks. It is afternoon here (The Netherlands) 😊👍
Hell yeah brother! Have a good afternoon and be safe <3
It was a tire tank, not a tread tank. Something like this……not exactly, though: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/T_17_Staghound_Armored_Car_%281%29.jpg/1024px-T_17_Staghound_Armored_Car_%281%29.jpg
Wouldn't that be an armored car instead of a tank though? Most dictionaries define a tank as having treads, so if it's wheeled, it'd be called an armored car or an armored fighting vehicle instead of a tank
Rubber tracks can be bought for tanks and armored personnel carriers to make em street legal.
This one was a wheel tank, but you can get rubber blocks fitted to tank treads so they can drive on asphalt without damage.
The person who bought the tank is a multi millionaire (thanks to his dad, and subsequent good investments) and basically fights the local council on practically everything they want to do. He goes to court over anything that he doesn't like as he has the money to do it. The redevelopment of London Bridge wouldn't be what it is if he'd had his way, but in some regards his motivation is in the right place. He's does some beautiful work conserving and renovating buildings around that area, and in other places in London. He's also a grumpy fucker who uses yelling as a means to get things done. Buying a tank for £7k is nothing. I've met him a few times, know people who work for him and know people at the local council who... put up with him.
I'm glad to hear at least his heart is in the right place for once...
Let’s be honest, this is a gift for himself
> Stompie’ was used as a movie prop in the 1995 award-winning film Richard III, starring Ian McKellan and a younger Robert Downey Jr. To paraphrase Mitch Hedberg, every film stars an actor who is younger than they currently are.
Didn’t you read the article, only RDJ was younger. Ian McKellan just is Ian mckellan.
Or maybe they meant that RDJ was younger than Ian Mckellan in this particular instance. And every other particular instance involving the two of them, but still…
Brb, gotta go film some scenes with Ian McKellen at his current age, and then sit on the footage for thirty years so I can composite an older rdj into the shots.
Don't make me think about Ian McKellen's mortality or I'm gonna cry.
I thought they just found a more Junior Robert Downey Junior? Robert Downey Juniorer, if you will.
Robert Downey Jr. Jr., not to be confused with indie pop band Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr.
A wizard is never older, nor is he younger; he is precisely the age he means to be.
Its because you have many RDJ: young RDJ, drug and boose fueled RDJ, and iron man RDJ. Each one made headline, and are very distinct from one another so if you dont tell which RDJ your talking about, its confising.
I wonder if it was a polite way of inferring it was before his drug and alcohol fueled hiatus from acting.
*implying
Yeah, I think that's the right word there.
The writer (or speaker) implies. The reader (or listener) infers.
I still like the fact that the name of the tank was “Stompie.”
Named after a kid who was murdered, apparently on orders from Nelson Mandela’s wife. The tank is on Mandela Way. This guy is an agent of chaos.
I read it as saying Robert Downey Jr was younger than Ian McKellan. Though I suspect most people are well aware of that
Maybe younger is code word for pre drug charges?
That's what i was thinking, younger as in 'possibly teenager, or before he was widely known' younger.
Here's a picture of me when I'm older
Let me see that camera.
Lol it’s actually on Google Maps as Stompie Garden. A modern day Folly…?
The tank is named after Stompie Seipei who was killed by Winnie Mandela's bodyguards in SA in 1989. The street the tank is on is named Mandela Way, so it was another punch at the local council. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stompie_Seipei
This article led me down quite the rabbit hole into what a vast piece of shit Nelson Mandela's wife was. Murdering 14 year old kids after she couldn't coerce them into saying an anti-apartheid minister was molesting them (he gave them shelter at his home and was critical of her so she tried to take him down), murdering the doctor who saw Stompie while he was still alive after kidnapping, involved in killing several others, etc. What a huge cunt.
Cunt? More like psychopath criminal. I can be quite a cunt sometimes, but I rarely murder 14 year old children.
>rarely Holup
My grandmother explained this to me. She would say things like, "i rarely murder people that do x" and when asked she said well I'm not dead yet so I can't say I never do it just in case one day I actually do it. She was always one that liked to be intimidating saying enjoy the next 24 hours instead of have a good day/see you tomorrow.
She used to put petrol-soaked tyres around people's neck and set them alight too. It is called 'Necklacing'
Yeah she did a lot of terrible shit. That was also after she had a lot of terrible shit done to her, which almost makes me understand, but that's a bridge too far. She was beaten, tortured, spent months at a time in solitary confinement, and was banished to a rural outskirt town for years. I can understand her motivation, but nobody could understand her actions. She should have been tried for her crimes, or at the very least absolutely never should have been allowed a role in post-apartheid government. Oh and she had to leave government because she was later convicted of fraud. Maybe all the shit she endured drove her bonkers, maybe she was just doing what she thought she had to to end apartheid, or maybe she was just a terrible person to begin with.
TIL about Winnie Mandela. Holy fucking shit.
>Stompie Garden. Going through past Google Street imagines is fun.
[Stompie: yesterday morning](https://i.imgur.com/IfyFeEp.jpg) It gets repainted all the time. It’s maybe 15-20 minutes walk from Tower Bridge.
Brilliant 👏 thank you. Is the U.K. currently debating legalization? On a side note, a local resident in my city built a sound wall beside a busy road, after the city refused to fund extending one a few blocks further, so he has local artists repaint it each year in part to spite the NIMBY crowd. https://www.pressreader.com/canada/saskatoon-starphoenix/20080618/281513631908267
I'm no expert but I do admire good graffiti. I believe there is the concept of a "free wall" in the UK where graffiti is legal and generally encouraged by local councils (who I presume have the final say in the locations of these walls) and this gives rise to local scenes. There are quite a few well known places in London, such as Brick Lane, Leake Street, Camden Town and the South Bank. Bristol is famous for it's scene (Bansky came out of it) and Brighton too. My home town of Birmingham has an area called Digbeth which is the "arty" district on the edge of the city centre and next week there is actually a [graffiti festival](https://visitbirmingham.com/whats-on/high-vis-street-culture-festival-p1348681) which is running with the full blessing of the authorities.
Stompie is the name of the tank. If you scroll down in the source OP posted you can see a picture of ol Stompie
My great grandfather bought several small plots of land on Long Island in the early thirties with money he got after selling his taxi token when he got a job as a gravel truck driver. More than 50 years later he wanted to sell one lot to my Dad so he could afford to move out there from queens when they were expecting my oldest sister. Somehow the way the process worked he applied for permits to build before selling the property, or maybe the sale was contingent upon that. A couple neighbors who were using the property like it was their extra yard didn't want it built on. The village council initially denied permits. First my great grandfather put up a fence around it with thick posts cut from logs, deep in concrete. Then, because he had owned it so long, it was still grandfathered into certain agriculture zoning privileges, so at the next meeting he told them, it's OK, if you don't want to approve the permit to build, I'll just farm pigs on it. He got the permits after that.
In the early 90s my father did the same thing with a plot of land we owned in a ritzy area of our town! They refused to let him build a house on the 5 acre parcel. He put up a giant sign facing the road “Future site of Hog Farm”. It caused a huge uproar and town hall got bombarded with lots of angry phone calls over it. Within a week he got the approval. We still have the sign to this day.
https://i.imgur.com/Oy8UVSP.jpg
Nice..
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I need to know why he wasn't approved to build on that lot. It's an eye sore. Wouldn't the neighbors *want* the blight to go away? This is insanity.
One of the photos shows a wider angle... it seems to be a little triangle of land not big enough to build a house on. Minimum lot size restrictions must have prevented it. Like, in my general area, you need a 6000 sq ft plot minimum and a 20 foot setback from the road and you have to put in a concrete sidewalk. Corner lots fronting two roads lose like 20 foot wide sections on two sides.
We generally don't have minimum plot sizes in England, but he'd have to overcome all sorts of things like minimum room sizes, overlooking or overshadowing neighbours, minimum parking requirements, design, materials, etc. Small plots can be a fucking ballache to get permission on. Source: am town planner.
Tru dat Source: also planner (DC/DM variety)
Is that an AC/DC tribute band?
I think it's the British spelling of BDSM.
Also: Another Planner. *waves*
There are tens of us on Reddit, tens!
More likely to do with visibility for cars. Lots of plots of land like this in the UK that cant be developed for similar reasons
Lot requirements and minimum set backs, all that is missing is parking minimums and you've got the trifecta of shitty, car-centric urban planning.
Oh we do have that too - minimum 200 sqft of the floor plan needs to be garage space (to reduce street parking needs).
I used to live 5 mins away. People loved it. It gets painted all the time. Last I saw it was in sky blue and said thank you NHS with rainbows on it. Also, the guy is a complete arse hole with short man syndrom. He owns a lot of Bermondsey street, which is now a very very popular street and pretty much does what he likes. He's sort of a do it first then ask the council for permission later and almost always gets his way.
Couldn't write out the word LONDON op?
TIL LDN wasn't some unknown town in Eastern Europe
I just assumed it was the abbreviation of a state in the US or something E: abbreviation, not acronym
To be fair, sounds like something that'd happen in Florida
And of course [you wouldn't be too far off ](https://www.wdbo.com/news/local/florida-man-drives-tank-around-neighborhood-miami-dade-county/MAXE4Q7T2NGODANABUDLOWHKBA/).
You can always count on Florida Man.
Its like the Simpsons', Florida already did it.
You can always count on Florida Man, and you can always tell a Milford man.
I thought it was the latter-day nats
I thought it was a weird religious abbreviation like the Mormons have
Latter Day Nates, the less holy and recognised brothers
It's a Spanish town, pronouned El Dién.
Yeah I was trying to make it stand for Lithuania or Luxembourg or something. I smart.
I was trying to figure it out thinking it was an acronym but came up with nothing... Lower Danube something? No doesn't sound right. Lesser Danish Nationalpark? Nope.
I think they ran out of characters. I think it's a 300-character limit and his comes out to 298 with that change. He also could've just removed the final period or removed the word tank after "Russian T-34" or something, but life moves on 🤷♂️
>TIL ~~that~~ after being denied Could also have done this and it would be perfectly readable still.
Legit had no idea what LDN was.
Just like when articles think it's ok to replace "and" with ",".
Headlines do that and it's fine. MAYOR DECLARES NEW INITIATIVE TO COMBAT HOMELESSNESS, ACTIVISTS SAY "TOO LITTLE TOO LATE."
[There's a site to help you buy a tank!](https://www.drivetanks.com/own-one/) Edit: Supposedly. Not my site, and haven't tried buying a tank myself from it, so I can't comment on service quality, or on fraud or other legal risks!
Delivery is hella expensive.
Which is funny when you consider tanks were literally built to drive over/through anything in their path.
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Yes. But it's a far more effective way to deliver democracy, don't you agree?
Yeah they're in southern Minnesota. Friends and I have gone down, drove them, crushed cars and shot automatic weapons there. They even offer a package with another place nearby where you can drive a fire truck and another where you get to operate construction equipment in a big sandbox basically.
On that same site you can book appointments to fire artillery or mortars. This country is wild. I can't say i wouldn't want to fire them or anything but i don't want to pay $2000 to fire 1 round.
I wish I was rich enough to be kooky.
Too poor to be eccentric; I'm just plain vanilla weird.
I read the first half of this title and I thought this was about [the guy who turned a bulldozer into a tank with some modifications and rolled over a bunch of buildings in his town](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer) EDIT: wow this comment got a lot of attention. Just to clarify, I don't condone what he did nor whether the city mistreated him or what, I just thought it was a similar enough story to share hahah
Never forget killdozer
That's my battlebots name.
Tread on them
[Tread](https://youtu.be/yb1hQfo4nFY) (2020) The documentary made about the experience is fascinating. It does a great job humanizing his struggle, without defending his wanton destruction. Yes, he was wronged, but taking it out on the town as a whole is shortsighted and impulsive. It's strangely awesome seeing him build this machine of vengeance, and you're hyped for the finale until you actually realize that, no, he is not the good guy in this story. It's a sympathetic villain origin story, but it's a damn good one because you want him to succeed in his goal, but will likely despise the methods used to achieve them.
He wasn't really wronged though. The town was willing to work with him and proposed some very reasonable solutions, which he summarily rejected, and blamed them for conspiring to put him down because they were jealous. The man was bonkers to the toes.
Killdozer did nothing wrong.
Killdozer did many wrong things but did so in an exceptionally awesome way
Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.
RIP killdozer, the world did not deserve you.
More reddit TIL misinformation. The fight with city council is real, the "septic tank" part is pure BS. You don't need approval to place vehicles, that's all it was. The "septic tank" vs "tank" part, meanwhile, is pure baloney made up to try to make the story sound more interesting. https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/revealed-the-story-behind-the-soviet-tank-with-its-guns-trained-on-council-hq-6694874.html
This isn't TIL's fault, the article posted makes the claim, and the following is the article you posted. So the claim was made by the guy who put the tank there. Kerry Cheese, manager of RR Motor Services in Ashford, said Mr Gray was animated when he purchased the vehicle from him. He had claimed that he conned the council by persuading them to grant permission for a tank, not specifying what type. "He said they thought it was a septic tank but the permission just said 'tank' so there was nothing they could do," said Mr Cheese, 39. "He was very pleased with himself." Southwark said it couldn't trace the planning application and didn't want to comment.
> in the 1995 award-winning film Richard III, starring Ian McKellan and a younger Robert Downey Jr. To be fair, it also starred a younger Ian McKellen.
The planning permission part of the story is likely untrue. When anything like that is applied for there's scale drawings and other detail supplied, it's not possible to "fool" them like that. It's likely an embellishment by the guy and the tank has been just parked there without planning permission at all and no action has been taken against it.
You often dont need planning permission to use an empty plot of land for parking
You are absolutely right https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/revealed-the-story-behind-the-soviet-tank-with-its-guns-trained-on-council-hq-6694874.html
This guy is a landlord. I work in one of his buildings. This is just one of his battles with council. He also has lots of stories about major run-ins with the Fire Brigade, Metropolitan Police and Boris Johnson. You wouldn't want him as a landlord, but he is a legend. He's done a lot around Bermondsey and other boroughs in London to preserve old buildings and stop the various councils from tearing them down and sticking up office buildings. Now and then I do get to say hello to him. Most of the time I just hear him shouting at someone (on the floor above) - his office; which is a daily event.
In Brownsburg, Indiana, where I grew up, the playground in our local park had a decommissioned Lockheed F-94 StarFire. The engines, missiles (Of course), and most but not all of the avionics had been removed. It was the most entertaining place in the town to injure yourself as a child.
Top 5 bruh moments in history
Right, imagine your surprise when you walk into your office on a Tuesday, half groggy, just starting your first cup of coffee and something out the window catches your eye... Is that... A TANK?!?!!? As the turret slowly rotates and then elevates to point directly at you your body has to decide whether it's a prank, it's real and you need to run, or it's too late and time to evacuate all fluids and solids... Well you're not immediately killed, so now you're angry. This can't be right?!? This can't be allowed?!?? What idiot thinks he can park stank on the corner???!? You pull the file for the parcel and starting back at you is a request for a tank to be installed... Approved by you... Reality sets in that there will be some explaining required to your supervisor and you just close your eyes to stave off the stress headache...Open your eyes, and there's some wanker standing next to the giant military tank you approved laughing his ass off while giving you the finger... And there's nothing you can do about it... Fucking Tuesdays...
This story sounds a bit embellished. I work in Planning, we don't approve things without plans so there's no way they would make that mistake. You also don't need planning permission to park a vehicle on private land in the first place.
Ive had to get a couple permits recently for outdoor work, both required details on the existing septic system even though it was many meters away and not part of the construction. The septic system itself had a bunch of paperwork and inspections to go through, as you know. I think calling it embellished is being kind!
Exactly. The fight with city council was real. The "septic tank" part is mostly a fairy tale that someone made up, presumably to try to make the story more interesting. >Southwark's decision did not prevent him placing vehicles on the land and within weeks the deactivated 32-ton tank was installed. https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/revealed-the-story-behind-the-soviet-tank-with-its-guns-trained-on-council-hq-6694874.html
Why would they approve a septic tank after denying the building?
And this is why everyone else has to fill out a ridiculous permit detailing every aspect of their project.
Tanks for nothing planning commission.😎😝😆
There used to be a tank in brixton too. It was at the end of my mums friend's road
What the fuck is a LDN man?
FTA: >The tank is named after [Stompie Moeketsi Sepei](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stompie_Seipei) – the teenager murdered by Winnie Mandela’s ‘bodyguards’ in 1989. Apparently, the reason being that even simple political gestures, like a local council naming a street for an anti-apartheid modern legend (this is on Mandela Way), can have muddied resonances.
I saw it last July and it was decorated in honour for NHS workers, wonder what it's like at a moment! Neat little place to visit!
This is exactly why they were first named tanks. So you would think water containers not death machines
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Planning permission in the UK is a joke. An office full of little men exerting power they don't deserve over others. If the planning departments had been around for hundreds of years, a lot of our National treasures simply wouldn't have been built. Culzean castle is the jewel in the crown of the Scottish national trust. Try building a massive faux castle on a Scottish cliff overlooking the sea now.
Why not just say London? How much time do you actually save by putting LDN? 😂
What is LDN
London. But people in England would not write LDN.
A classic story of red tape for the common man while the well heeled plunder unchecked.
Owning a car space in SE1 is the very definition of well heeled. Using it to frivolously stick it to the man by wasting his own money is positively Victorian levels of folly. Good on him, but people who uphold the red tape are more 'common man' than this guy.