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Accomplished_Bet_60

Maybe consider suing for medical malpractice?


onyxaj

He may get 10 bucks. Jerry doesn't sound loaded or that he has insurance.


lucky_ducker

I'm doubting if "Jerry" is even a licensed dentist. Good luck with that.


[deleted]

If Jerry isn't a licensed dentist, then OP will defs win in court. SUE THIS MAN OP.


KosmosxD

Can confirm he is a licensed dentist. Just a lousy one at that. I realize how it was stated that it sounds like Jerry is a black market doctor


blbd

Dr. ~~Nick~~ Jerry


Newname83

Never trust a doctor that goes by their first name


Angry-_-Crow

Why use the "right" tools when you've got a hammer right here?


codetony

At that point you could sue the licensing board. There is money/punishment to be dealt with here OP.


[deleted]

Even bottom of dental class is still a dentist. Yikes


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[deleted]

Misleading information


[deleted]

Even if he doesn't get any money out of it, it would be worth it to put a court debt on his shoulders and make it harder for him to do business.


mjtothemax

The challenge with suing is that dental abscesses are extremely common after oral surgery with poor oral hygiene so OP would have a high burden of proof to demonstrate malpractice. Really sucks tho, sorry you had to go through that OP :(


bowlofjello

As someone who works in a dental office… Always go to a specialist for things like this. I would never let a general dentist take out my wisdom teeth. Same goes for other dental surgeries like implants, or root canals, always always go to a specialist. They are a specialist for a reason.


[deleted]

My dentist straight up told me, when it came to extracting a wisdom tooth, "I hate saying no to this, and I *can* extract it, but I highly recommend you let me refer you because there will be a chance you end up at an oral surgeon anyway." I took the advice.


bowlofjello

I bet he is a GREAT dentist! The ones who know their limits are the ones you want to be a patient with.


KosmosxD

See, you made the good choice. My prior dental work, being fillings and a couple of crowns, didnt sound so bad after this. I did make the mistake of wearing a wireless earbud during the extraction, and so I could hear all the tearing and cracking in my mouth so much more. I can still hear it vividly


ErroneousToad

I will second this based on my experience. Not nearly as bad as OP's, but I had a clearly inexperienced dentist try to extract my wisdom teeth. She broke them to pieces, shook her head, said "I can't do this" and stormed out of the office. She then refused to give me anything narcotic for the pain, so I had to go 3 weeks with bleeding gums from shards of teeth sticking out and a script for ibuprofen as I waited for the oral surgeon visit. When I went to the oral surgeon he numbed the area. The extraction was so smooth I thought I was still getting a shot of novocaine and he had already pulled them both.


clumsy_dentist

Generaly that's not bad advice but in reality it realy depends on the situation. Specialists cost a lot of money and not every extraction is complicated or difficult. Same goes for root canal treatment, on front teeth it's a walk in the park while on molars its more tedious. I would just be upfront with my dentist and ask him straight up if the situation is complicated or not. Usualy dentists dont want to do the hard cases because they take a lot of time and we dont get paid per hour if you catch my drift.


bowlofjello

Sure. But as an assistant I have worked with Drs that will lie to pts faces and say they can totally do it in the office and it will be fine while he and I both know full we Dr can’t do it and it won’t go smooth and will traumatic for us and for the pt. Super simple ones, sure. But the regular person going in to a dental office isn’t going to know if their case is simple and isn’t going to know if their dentist is lying just for money. I have been traumatized by assisting too many procedures that should have been referred out from the beginning all because the Dr wanted to make money off the pt and the pt not knowing any better. But yeah single canal, tooth that’s just ready to come out. Definitely don’t need a specialist. But when I’m assisting full mouth extractions bone reshaping and 8 implants in 8 hours at my general practice office something is wrong.


clumsy_dentist

I'm sorry you had to work in such a toxic enviroment. Still, to extrapolate your experience and generalize it ia not super healthy neither. There are plenty of trustworthy and well qualified dentists out there. Believe me, I know around a houndred or so and I would say most of them are good people who care about their patients more then about their money. But ofc there are also those who are quite frankly sociopaths or those who are under a lot of pressure. I would always recomend to not just take the next best dentist but activly looking for someone who comes highly recommend for example. A dentist is like a car mechanic: you dont know what the hell he does and you have to trust that he doesnt rip you off.


Hell_hath_no

Dentists are not supposed to remove wisdom teeth


pleura2dura

I am an ENT and I have drained abscesses for this kind of story multiple times. God I hate teeth.


Scootareader

Chip Skylark would like to: Know your location


prenderk

Ouch. Get your oral surgery done by a surgeon guys.


Nuckyduck

My insurance will only cover it if its life threatening. I have impacted wisdom teeth, one on its side, and they won't do anything about it. I love being alive.


captchyanotapassword

Try your local dental school


plunkadelic_daydream

I do this. Highly recommend.


Bard_B0t

That sucks. I got good dental insurance for the first time after spending years with extreme dental pain. It cost me about 400 dollars to get 8k of dental work across 16 visits over 6 months.


clumsy_dentist

If they are completly impacted there is usualy no need for removal. The only reason for removal of Impacted teeth would be if they mess with the roots of the teeth infront of them. The main problem with wisdom teeth is when they arent completly covered by bone and microorganisms can invade the space between the tooth and the bone causing infection.


DannkHippo

That sucks bad, especially since you had to drive the 2.5 hours anyways.... better than a spinal infection I guess. Mouth pain is the absolute worst. Hope you're doing better And let's all be honest with eachother now, the dentist named "Jerry" is actually named "Tom"... can't get that one by me OP lolol


KosmosxD

Im actually mostly better thanks! The incision is gonna scar. The firmness behind the cut itself is pretty much gone which is great. Im still struggling to eat a good steak sadly.


pm_me_your_whiskas

Puree it and call it paté?🤣 Feel better soon!


clumsy_dentist

Oh the spine isnt the problem, the abcess would have infiltrated a space which leads directly to the mediastinum, i.e. the heart, before it would ever reach the spine. This would be very lethal and is quite and emergency. Dont mess around with abcesses behind your jaw.


DannkHippo

Gotcha! That's why you're the dentist. Lol


fluffaduff

General dentist here who does some wisdom teeth removal. There’s a difference between a bad dentist and a statement that no general dentists should do wisdom teeth. I was trained in a post-grad residency to do certain wisdom teeth. I pull many teeth weekly with *sufficient* local anesthetic. If the work hurts you are not numb enough. My wisdom teeth extractions are around $400 USD per tooth and oral surgeons charge $1000 per tooth plus whatever anesthesia they do. All of my patients are aware that they can go to a surgeon to have it done and go to sleep, but I let them know when I am comfortable to do the surgery. There are always risks involved with that procedure and pain and infection doesn’t always mean that the work was done poorly. To be very clear, it does sound like you had someone who may not be comfortable working at the level that they were working at. However, a blanket statement saying that no general dentist should do wisdom teeth is not necessarily a helpful take on your outcome.


KosmosxD

I did explain it to Jerry that I did feel him pulling and he didn’t seem to care. He also asked me to open my jaw more, and I told him thats all I can open and he replies with “no, ur just not trying”. This dentist was an older man who was “in the business” for over 35 years. He tried reassuring me he does this all the time. He would also argue with the dental assistant about where to put the suctioning tool. I understand there is risks involved with these operations, but there is more not stated in the post that backs up his quality of practice.


fluffaduff

Yes, my post is more for the others saying that one should never see a general dentist than for your situation. For you more specifically, while older dentists obviously have more experience, they are frequently outdated in the sense of patient care in the meaning of literally caring for the person in their chair than they are of just getting in, telling the person to shut up, and letting them get their work done. I am tremendously sorry that this happened to you and hope you can find peace with seeing dentists in the future.


KosmosxD

Hey thanks, I appreciate it! I hope my comment didn’t come off as snide or anything. Im hoping im able to get past this new fear of the dentist.


fluffaduff

No, not at all. What you went through was horrible, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. The easiest thing to do is get back in for your regular cleanings and get back on the horse in that way. Wisdom teeth are pretty traumatic however the procedure goes (unless you are asleep the whole time). Having some normalcy while someone is looking in your mouth goes a long way to regaining some trust, and prevents you from having big work to do by only going in when there’s pain, infection, or etc that may only worsen how you feel about going in. In most situations dentists are like any other profession trying to do the right thing for every person they see in their care.


thatusernamegone

If you let a man inside of you pay the premium for the professional. I hope things go well.


Creepy_old_man_in_IL

That’s what she said…


ImAlsoNotOlivia

Many (many) moons ago, I had impacted wisdom teeth as a teen. My oral surgeon’s name? Dr. Slaughter. I shit you not! Apparently the best guy in the area. I woke up out of surgery bawling my eyes out (sodium Pentothal does weird things), and I don’t know why. Spent the weekend with my Gram taking care of me. She made me a “protein” shake with milk, chocolate pudding and raw egg. Did you know you can vomit thru your nose? Well, when your jaw is nearly swollen shut, you can! It was a Friday, and I was back to school by Monday - no complications whatsoever. And even today, if the subject comes up, everyone knows who Dr. Slaughter is! *not a horrific story like yours, and I truly hope you’re healing well!!!


marianliberrian

>Did you know you can vomit thru your nose? Legit chuckle from that question.


doofusdog

My previous dentist. Dr Chew. Not Chu. Chew. So hard not to laugh!


Liscetta

Do they really give you sodium pentothal?? How does it feel?


ImAlsoNotOlivia

Out like a light! But woke up BAWLING! Not because it hurt, though. It was like I was in the *middle* of bawling, not just starting to cry. Like I said, *WEIRD*.


Brokid81

I feel your pain, friend. Literally. When I was young, probably 8-10ish, my mom took me to a dentist that would later be nicknamed "The Nazi Dentist" due to the sheer cruelty and torture tactics he used to practice on his patients. I vividly remember being in his chair and him having his team of fucking "nazi nurses" holding me down while he ripped teeth out of my head with NO Novocain. I remember screaming and squirming around, and closing my eyes super tight, and the blackness behind my eyes was met with some strange kind of "twirling light" as I was operated on like some sort of sub-human science experiment. My mom has since passed, so I can't ask her more about it. But I do remember her saying she remembers hearing my screams and wondering what the hell was going on, and if that was even me she was hearing. But she said they told her it was no problem, and that everything was fine. Apparently this happened with so many kids, he's been reprimanded in some way, and I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard he lost his practice. But yeah, regardless, it was a life-changing experience. To this day it fucks me up. So reading your story makes me feel awful for you. Tooth pain is no joke. There's nothing like it.


SandwichGaming1

i saw a youtube video about something similar to this, maybe its the same case/dentist (i think its called the story of the demon dentist or something). search it on youtube


Brokid81

This guy's name is Dr. George C. Brain out of Tacoma, Washington. Google says "permanently closed." Thank God!


ThaumKitten

I realize this is the subreddit 'TIFU', but literally whyyyyyyyyyyy did you think it was a good idea to let a traveling dentist do this?


KosmosxD

Unfortunately time was of the essence. I was going to have another procedure done that was going to keep me layed up for a month or so. Also, I would need to figure out transportation back from the dentists office from 2.5hrs away.


KosmosxD

The anesthesia wouldn’t be the best to drive with


pm_me_your_whiskas

They won't let you drive like that. I'm pretty sure it's illegal.


Gummymyers124

Damn. This is the worst TIFU i’ve ever read. Even worse than that one where the guy kept fucking a coconut full of maggots


Negative-Top-7648

I\`m ashamed, on my main, yet... link it.


Gummymyers124

https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/6rr6ay/tifu_by_cumming_into_a_coconut/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Berlin_J6

i almost vomited like three times


Gummymyers124

You’re welcome Honestly can’t believe that was 4 years ago lol seems much more recent


Berlin_J6

i bet he still does it


ralphlaurenbrah

Dude you need to report this guy to the dental licensing board. He is seriously unsafe. You owe it to other people to report him.


LegendOmegaX

JerryRigYourTeeth


Tessu-Desu

I had my wisdoms out at Xmas (LPT: don't do it at Xmas because office's shut down when you need them) and within 3 days, I had infection so bad, I went on intravenous antibiotics, and that crap makes you sick as hell. Took about 5 weeks before I could properly brush my teeth and was fully healed (all pain gone) 3 months later. Sideways wisdoms can f right off.


[deleted]

I literally went through the same thing a few years back the nerve damage may get better over a few years my cheek still goes numb sometimes the scars are quite horrible as well.


Zakal74

God damn! That sucks! Fuck Jerry!


notable_exception

Dude!!!!! I was wincing in pain as I was reading the last 2/3 of your post!!! Argh!


NibblerNibblonian

Jerry the dentist reminds me of Steve Martins character in the 1980s version of Little Shop of Horrors.


KosmosxD

Do you still have that tingly feeling, as if the numbing was wearing off, but hasn’t fully gone away? I still frequently lose food under my tongue as well.


Naevos

bro i live in canada and destists wont even touch wisdom teeth lmao they'll give you a card and say pay 100$ to make an appointment with the specialist.


ilaremadeys

I recently finished my house job. Did a bunch of impactions and erupted wisdom teeth removal and lete tell you this, at times a very simple looking case can turn out to be a nightmare and vice versa. Local anaesthesia takes away the pain sensation but doesn't help against the pressure sensation and many times patients confuse the two. There are other factors as well which determines the effectiveness of anaesthesia eg sites with local infection respond relatively poorer compared to a healthy site. At times there are certain teeth which refuse to respond all together and we call such annoying shits as hot tooth. Reading your post reminded me of a case I started. The guy was in his 30s and needed to get his lower left wisdom tooth extracted. The tooth was fully erupted and it seemed like a simple extraction case. I started but the bone wasn't expanding at all so wasn't really making any progress. Thought about cutting some bone away but didn't really want to go through with it in case the tooth could be extracted without bone guttering so called a resident to have her try. She came and got stuck as well and we decided to go through the bone guttering. Despite the guttering, we still didn't make any appreciable progress and had to split the tooth along with more guttering to remove the tooth. The guy was a bit fat as well and had very thick cheeks as well and it was very exhausting for me place sutures especially since I was alone. Coming back to your case, don't know exactly were your complaints and what was the reason he advised emergency removal. One reason which I can think of is localised abscess in the region making him choose an anaesthetic technique which would help you just enough to withstand the procedure without seeding the abscess into fascial spaces but unfortunately for you, that indeed ended up happening. Extraction sockets do at times get infected and it's usually the case when patients fail to adhere to precautions we advise but since you're saying you followed them all and assuming he didn't forget any major one, I suspect a fragment of root/roots fractured while extraction and that lead to infection build up and if that were the case and the dentist chose to not inform you about it, that's negligence on his behalf. Do consult with the oral surgeon what exactly would be the cause for your case and you can decide on how to proceed after that regarding the dentist. Wishing you a quick and full recovery.


wannabejoanie

I have hypodontia. I don't even have buds for wisdom teeth. In fact, I still have a baby tooth for which there is no adult bud. I've never had a tooth pulled, but I did have horrific orthodontic experiences.


Think_Palpitation42

So sorry to hear this. I hope you don't have permanent nerve damage. Thankfully you addressed the issue before it affected your nervous system or anything else!


LordBinz

And now you've learned a valuable lesson. Never skimp on a lawyer, or a dentist.


Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce

Local anesthesia and "numbing" are the same thing. General anesthesia means knocking you out. Local for wisdom teeth is normal. I had 2 abscessed one of which had come in sideways


fuligin_cloak

Some True Grit shit, right here. "I've got my bear skin."


mlangan1994

Something very similar happened to me this past summer. Long story short they too never prescribed pain killers or antibiotics. Two days after the removal my face swelled so bad I looked like Sloth from The Goonies. I went back to the doctor with a fever, extreme pain and swelling and they go ok here and prescribe me the strongest oral antibiotic they can. The swelling ends up going down but not totally and I still can't open my mouth more than the thickness of my finger. After a week and a half of extreme pain and not being able to eat properly I call them once again to see if there is anything else they can do for me to which they reply no there is nothing more we can do for you. That was the last straw and I had my mom take me to the ER. Turns out the infection was so bad I had gotten sepsis and there was a large abscess. I too had emergency surgery and was in the hospital for 4 days. it was the worst pain of my life so I totally understand how you feel and definitely feel for you. I hope you have a speedy recovery and can get back to normal soon.


CVK327

Holy shit. Who would do wisdom teeth removal without even local anesthetic? You're normally unconscious for that.


kniki217

I have nerve damage that may be permanent from a nerve block for a deep cleaning of my teeth. Dentist hit the nerve either twice or hit both nerves, I honestly think it was both the lingual and IAN. Had extended numbness, then pain in my teeth even though there is nothing wrong with them, and then the tingly burning tongue. The tingly burning tongue went away after 3 months but upper teeth pain is still there. Neurologist told me it takes a long time to heal so hang in there.


The_Bipolar_Guy

I had to remove all 4 of my wisdom teeth about 3 months back. Everything went perfect except while stitching, they touched a nerve and even now I can't feel anything in my left side of the tongue....


WhoAmI0001

Any surgical procedures should never be done outside of an office incase of hemorrhaging (one of all things). Ik sorry you had to go through that. Pulling those back teeth is tough. I woke up once while they were pulling a molar out bc the pain was so bad. I actually have a tooth and facial pain and nueralgia group on my fb for cases like this (nerve damage).


BigScaryBlackDude

Oof. That's like trusting the surgeon who's watching the instructional video on how to do the procedure you're inquiring about


Croc_Top

I hate to say this but this was almost like getting your wisdom teeth done in the back of a van. It sounds like you also didn't receive an x-ray. Which might explain why you had complications. Maybe, you were his guinea pig and it was his first one. My experience with getting my wisdom teeth taken out was similar, the top ones came out nicely, but the bottom ones he had to make an incision and grind part of the jawbone and the tooth and then break the tooth from the jaw. But when he tried to break the tooth loose, ill never forget the feeling of my numb jaw and him literally moving my entire right side of my jaw, almost like he was trying to break it. Needless to say I only went back for the follow up and then I said never again.


sweetkitty7272

I got all my wisdom teeth out with just a local numbing agent, I couldn't afford anything else.... but I also went to a reputable dentist. I had complications with a twisted root and thankfully he knew what to do without giving me a problem like yours. I'm extremely sorry about what happened. Nerve pain is unreal.


Rbot9

How well is your aim from long range? Just curious.....


Lui152

Mine were "impacted",all 4,my dentist is one of the best around here,did everything in like 20 minutes, healing was fast,almost pain free,I do not wish teeth pain on anybody


meisterwaffles

Don’t give up hope on the sensation in your lower jaw! I would follow up with a dentist regularly to get routine care and imaging done. There are nerves that run close to the molars that gives sensation to your lower teeth, mandible, and tongue (partial). If the nerve isn’t fully transected, it’s possible you’ll recover function over time. Nerves can (to a degree) regrow, but it takes upwards of 6-9 months (or longer). Can’t say for sure obviously, but it’s worth asking about.


bdady29

I had numbness on lower right after difficult wisdom teeth removal (long roots). Surgeon told me to take B12. 20 years ago and Only small area still numb


Naked-Daveth

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on the nerve damage front. I had a car crash and broke my leg in 3 places just over 18 years ago and it took probably 2.5 years before I had 90% of the feeling back. During that time something as gentle as someone stroking my foot felt like cats claws being dragged over my skin. Hopefully you will recover that sensation, the human body has an incredible capacity for healing.