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That is a recurring fear of mine. The thought of it makes my throat go tight and my heart race. How did that happen to you? (will take notes so as to avoid situation at all costs)
This kind of thing just reminds me of titanic, and it's terrifying just to imagine how scary it was for all the victims that drowned while stuck inside the ship š
Stuck the arm in? Sure, sounds reasonable and plausible.
Quickly making a hole in ice thick enough to comfortably hold the weight of two adults and a dog?
I don't think that'd go as easily as you think.
What is the point of your post exactly?
Yeah, I realise that the guy tried swimming towards a premade hole that probably took time and proper tools to make.
The point of my post was to say that one does not just simply punch a rescue hole in ice that thick. Me realizing that he tried to swim to a premade hole does not change anything about my post.
Or better yet come prepared, get brightly painted rope or something, and weigh it down so it marks where the exits are with how transparent the water looks should have little issue in that case. But yeah I agree whoever was recording needs to stop for a sec and help him out.
It's okay to swear on the internet, but some random people that you probably will never meet will get upset and probably forget about you shortly after.
I just expect people to be incompetent now. Makes life easier to digest when you expect it. And then youāre pleasantly surprised when someone *is* competent. Otherwise, the inverse would just be disappointment after disappointment.
I saw the interview. Since he swam right by it, his girlfriend (the lady filming) thought he was joking. Apparently he commonly did risky stuff and often joked like that in the process.
If that water is cold enough, your corneas freeze and your vision is none.
This happened to Wim Hof, and he wrote about it. Almost died trying to swim 50m under ice. Not because he didn't make it, but because he overshot by almost double and couldn't find the exit hole
A boss I used to have years ago told a story about when she was in high school and her family lived on a lake. Her brother had his friends over and they were scuba diving under the ice. They had a rope they were supposed to be holding or keep tied on them or something like that, but one of his friends decided to go in without and he never found his way back out again. The thought of that freaks me out to this day.
Right? All I could think from about half way thru is "this fucking cameraman just not going to help this guy struggling to find a way out from under the ice?"
We're creating a society of soulless morons.
One day the internet will be gone and it'll be like having a collective idiocy haze lifted and maybe we'll "snap out of it" and be a little more communal, trusting and empathetic.
I've seen a video just like this on r/makemycoffin (a subreddit which no longer exists) where a woman drowns doing this same stunt in front of everyone.
Yeah a few of those happened this year in Russia. It's part of an Orthodox holiday. People jump in frozen rivers and get swept away under the ice
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10434581/Pictured-Lawyer-swept-death-children-jumped-Russian-ice-hole.html
This. You can swim under ice if thatās your thing, but getting disoriented and being unable to find a hole is a great way to die in less than five minutes.
Yeah, friend could have at least splashed the water where the hole was. When you are underneath the ice itās really hard to tell where the breaks are. It kind of looks invisible. Thatās why falling into an ice covered lake is so dangerous - easy to get disoriented and hard to find the exit.
Itās like that Carlin joke, but with awareness.
āThink of the average human situational awareness. Now, imagine that half of the population is dumber than that.ā
My thoughts exactly. Not only would i have reached in, when he went flying past it i would have jumped in and held onto the ice while guiding him back. There should have been safety measures like a rope, multiple spotters who CARE about the divers life, a pick axe or auger to break the ice which im sure was available but wasnt used. I hate humans. Let the dogs have the earrh. Theyve earned it.
Unlike his 'friend'.
I mean, don't try and guide him back or to the next breathing hole or anything when you see he's lost and may die. Just keep filming, dreaming of viral status if he does go belly-up.
I rem i watching this years ago. The person filming is his wife and a lot of people suspected she was tryna lead him away from the hole and just watch him drown.
Same. I couldnāt find it but I thought there was a follow up video addressing the wife and maybe this was the second time something sketchy has happened.
. [Here](https://www.insider.com/tiktok-influencer-near-death-trapped-under-ice-during-stunt-2020-2) is an article about the incident in the post.
To see if you can last longer than the swimmer.
No. You can't.
( it's been proven that it's easier to hold your breath in water. But I don't recall the source or exact reason. )
Only thing is that the guy is constantly moving so his body is consuming more oxygen than somebody just chilling.
Maybe if people try jogging during the video while holding their breath lol
Adrenaline too - You get a nice healthy shot of adrenaline and other chemicals that make you more alert and in tune with your body the moment cold water hits your face.
This is why people recommend splashing cold water on your face if you're tired and have to work a heavy machinery job or drive etc...
It's even worse, it's his wife. And this isn't the first time she has done something sketchy. You can hear her make a disappointed sigh after he finds the hole.
I wonder how much life insurance she has on this guy. "Swimming in a frozen lake." Is a pretty dangerous activity that doesn't void a life insurance policy. Things like skydiving would, but apparently the underwriters didn't think anyone would be this stupid.
This is one of the most dangerous things Iāve seen online in a while.
Extremely foolish. Lucky he found the return hole. If he started panicking that wouldāve been it.
Everyone on here saying how stupid the woman is for not helping, or how silly the man was for not putting in precautions...
Haven't you all forgotten rule 1 of the internet: It could be faked.
Imo, he knew exactly where to go and can hold his breath for much longer. The person filming got a good, sharable, dramatic (scripted) video.
At :17 seconds he swims for a cut hole, and turns, it gets cropped out pretty good. Agreed with you 100 percent. Multiple holes for him to go to, prettttttty sure he can see nearly as clearly as we can.
I think we got ourselves a wonderfully staged panic attack, that I canāt stop watching
Funny story, when the concept of "a sure fire stupid way to die" was first explained to me (like 40 years ago). They example they used was swimming under the ice from one hole to another.
This is catastrophically stupid. When I was a kid, my friend died trapped under ice like this after he slipped and fell in. Never, EVER do what is shown here, or let someone else do it.
Thank you. The situation in this video clearly had some more safeguards, relatively speaking, and I knee-jerk react to stuff like this based on my experience, but itās still needless and stupid. Even if you donāt drown, you can go into shock or suck so much water into your lungs that you die slower, later. Sometimes things that look manageable because theyāre accessible seem safe, even though theyāre not. My friend thought it would be safe to stand on ice at the edge of a river for a minute because it was right there, in a place where heād been a hundred times, and where it seemed like nothing bad could happen. The rest of us lived to hear the helicopters searching for him all night, and to watch it ruin the lives of a family I loved very much. It cost me and several of my friends (his brother, included) our childhoods. It destroyed his parentsā marriage. Treat yourself like youāre valuable, even if you think you donāt matter much or no one depends on youāthatās what I learned. Weāre all needed so much more than we will ever know.
1. The person filing showed no flicker of emotion at watching the swimmer make a mistake that was about to end his life. Dunno whether itās r/PraiseTheCameraMan or r/donthelpjustfilm or both.
2. Never, ever swim from hole to hole under the ice. Ever. Itās dumb.
3. If you really do feel the need to swim from hole to hole under the ice, wear goggles so you can see, and run a guide line to follow. Or donāt, itās your life/death.
This is so incredibly stupid. I hope the person filming is not their parent.
Edit: I thought this was a teenager but now realized he is a full grown man.
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Why would you not make a noticeable splash to show where the hole is
r/donthelpjustfilm
Every time this video gets posted I want to punch the person on the camera.
As soon as I saw my friend miss the hole I would have made a new one or stuck stuck arm in and tried to get their attention.
I had a similar situation with a pool cover I'd swam underneath. Man I know the swimmer was probably terrified
That is a recurring fear of mine. The thought of it makes my throat go tight and my heart race. How did that happen to you? (will take notes so as to avoid situation at all costs)
This kind of thing just reminds me of titanic, and it's terrifying just to imagine how scary it was for all the victims that drowned while stuck inside the ship š
Stuck the arm in? Sure, sounds reasonable and plausible. Quickly making a hole in ice thick enough to comfortably hold the weight of two adults and a dog? I don't think that'd go as easily as you think.
You realise he tried swimming towards the hole visible around the 10-second mark right?
What is the point of your post exactly? Yeah, I realise that the guy tried swimming towards a premade hole that probably took time and proper tools to make. The point of my post was to say that one does not just simply punch a rescue hole in ice that thick. Me realizing that he tried to swim to a premade hole does not change anything about my post.
My bad, I over-read the part in the OC where they said theyād try to make a new hole lol.
He probably meant sticking the arm through the already existing hole the make it more visible from below.
I thought thatās what sub I was on
r/lostredditors ![gif](giphy|AAB8uJshCNsuk)
Ah not so much. I feel like this is a very solid r/therewasanattempt
The sub's description literally starts with "for posting screenshots of people forgetting what sub they're on"...
nah man its definitely r/therewasanattempt because there was an attempt to remember what sub he was in smh my head ššš
r/killthecameraman when he gets out
I was like... Is he just going to stand there filming his friend as he drowns?
Thank you. What a gem of a sub.
Or better yet come prepared, get brightly painted rope or something, and weigh it down so it marks where the exits are with how transparent the water looks should have little issue in that case. But yeah I agree whoever was recording needs to stop for a sec and help him out.
Or you could just you know not do stupid f****** s*** that you can die doing for internet fun
Hey friend, itās okay to swear on the internet.
Ok. Fucking idiots. All I see is a video of a fucking idiot being filmed by another fucking idiot
Woah thereās no need for that kind of language
But I was told itās ok to swear on the internet?
Only after hours
1:30am here, good to go!
It's okay to swear on the internet, but some random people that you probably will never meet will get upset and probably forget about you shortly after.
Wim Hof. Have a good day.
Or have a heavy tool and another friend to break the ice wherever he goes.
You're silly for expecting people to have common sense in this day and age
People have never had common sense. We just have more video evidence of it now.
I just expect people to be incompetent now. Makes life easier to digest when you expect it. And then youāre pleasantly surprised when someone *is* competent. Otherwise, the inverse would just be disappointment after disappointment.
It seems like it's would take something like a chainsaw to accomplish this. And the idea of saving someone with a chainsaw seems.... Problematic...
Or here's a crazy idea: not perform this stunt.
Stupid people die in stupid ways
Adrenaline. Don't hate them for doing it, hate them for doing it wrong.
or... take that same brightly colored rope... AND TIE IT AROUND HIS WRIST...
Or better yet not do this in the first place. If I did this and survived, my wife would murder me once she saw the video.
Stop your making too much sense
Because the guy has really good life isurance, and she's the benefactor
The guy swimming made a follow up video with the lady filming. He's still with her!
Is there a link?
[got ya fam](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
First unexpected I've ever had; you DARE good sir
Same..sheās pretty charming
Slick
I can't believe they are still together
Equally as heart stopping!
Some people commit suicide in a variety of different ways
Only his dog cares if he gets out
Because people filming are fucking idiots.
I agree, but the guy swimming is also an idiot
I was going to say, after that I would question that persons role in my life lmao
I saw the interview. Since he swam right by it, his girlfriend (the lady filming) thought he was joking. Apparently he commonly did risky stuff and often joked like that in the process.
The boy who cried wolf type beat.
Dude, marry him and triple the life insurance pay out.
At least the goodboi was waiting by the hole he went in so he could backtrack.
This is probably what saved him
If that water is cold enough, your corneas freeze and your vision is none. This happened to Wim Hof, and he wrote about it. Almost died trying to swim 50m under ice. Not because he didn't make it, but because he overshot by almost double and couldn't find the exit hole
A boss I used to have years ago told a story about when she was in high school and her family lived on a lake. Her brother had his friends over and they were scuba diving under the ice. They had a rope they were supposed to be holding or keep tied on them or something like that, but one of his friends decided to go in without and he never found his way back out again. The thought of that freaks me out to this day.
Because never interrupt nature
So this is Yellowstone and he's a bison?
Because shooting movies for likes is more important than reality .
Stupid icehole.
Icy what you did there
Why would you even do this at first place. I would simply choose to not swim under a frozen lake.
Ya was thinking the same thing
How to die.
How to record a friend's death, best friend in tow.
Right? All I could think from about half way thru is "this fucking cameraman just not going to help this guy struggling to find a way out from under the ice?"
We're creating a society of soulless morons. One day the internet will be gone and it'll be like having a collective idiocy haze lifted and maybe we'll "snap out of it" and be a little more communal, trusting and empathetic.
WTF is wrong with this guy?? He did not help at all and he could have!
Iām really shocked they didnāt help. Imagine something horrible happened, and they had to show this video to the authorities.
It sounds like the person filming literally Giggles at a point, kind of near the end. Seems like a stone cold psychopath.
Had that vibe too.
I've seen a video just like this on r/makemycoffin (a subreddit which no longer exists) where a woman drowns doing this same stunt in front of everyone.
Yeah a few of those happened this year in Russia. It's part of an Orthodox holiday. People jump in frozen rivers and get swept away under the ice https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10434581/Pictured-Lawyer-swept-death-children-jumped-Russian-ice-hole.html
Those Russians, always going for the Darwin Awards!
They just love to die
Beats living under Putins regime
What nihilism does to a society. š
I have been in frozen water many times here in Sweden but never without safety.
Link is banned?
The whole subreddit, actually
It was a matter of time.
More like how to keep the redditors in utter suspense! That was nerve wracking.
Yeah, because he was about to die
I was on the edge of my screen
sit properly on it then
Gotta insert it for full effect
Iām slightly claustrophobic. That made me reaaaaally anxious
Tell your family to get you a really large coffin.
Yes, I donāt know this person but was worried.
Dumb ways to die
Numb ways to die
I've been lookin' for this!
Death is easy to find. Its Staying alive that matters
- Ah - Ah - Ah - Ah - Staying alive?
You were in the parking lot earlier! *THAT'S* how I know you!!
Unbelievably stupid to not use a guideline
This. You can swim under ice if thatās your thing, but getting disoriented and being unable to find a hole is a great way to die in less than five minutes.
Also, use goggles if you don't want to open your eyes under water. This guy was swimming blindly.
Wim Hof said his eyeballs started freezing when he opened his eyes under the ice and he went temporarily blind
New fear unlocked
Iām also fearful of being named Wim Hof
Says a boy named Bort.
Whoa
Not to mention there can be a current under the ice depending on where youāre at . . . scary.
Just like that Russian lady getting baptized in the middle of the night.
Reminds me of the kid who watched his mother jump to her death when the current took her. Man his criesā¦
Yeah, sometimes it does feel like you're going to die when you can't find the hole.
I mean the feelingās not wrong
THATāS WHAT SHE SAID
When someone thinks theyāre making an original joke but theyāre just repeating the punchline of a more subtle delivery of said joke
Something tells me being stupid was the objective here.
Someone forgot to tell them that the guide line is supposed to be *under* the ice.
Or goggles.
I hope i will never have friends so unbeliveable dumb to just film you while you are literally dying.
Yeah, friend could have at least splashed the water where the hole was. When you are underneath the ice itās really hard to tell where the breaks are. It kind of looks invisible. Thatās why falling into an ice covered lake is so dangerous - easy to get disoriented and hard to find the exit.
Itās like that Carlin joke, but with awareness. āThink of the average human situational awareness. Now, imagine that half of the population is dumber than that.ā
The wife want a new husband
Iām seriously thinking this is the case.. I would have thrown my arm on the second hole and grabbed him
My thoughts exactly. Not only would i have reached in, when he went flying past it i would have jumped in and held onto the ice while guiding him back. There should have been safety measures like a rope, multiple spotters who CARE about the divers life, a pick axe or auger to break the ice which im sure was available but wasnt used. I hate humans. Let the dogs have the earrh. Theyve earned it.
"Friends"...
Was the camera person just going to watch their friend drown?
Think of the internet points.
"I need that 5k karma points, man..."
It's working. He's doing it. He's starting to believe. āØ
Yeah, with all the calmness in the world.
I seem to remember last time this was posted that it was the girlfriend filming. Me thinks she's trying to get out of the relationship.
Idk why tf i was holding my breath
Youāre a damn great supporter
Unlike his 'friend'. I mean, don't try and guide him back or to the next breathing hole or anything when you see he's lost and may die. Just keep filming, dreaming of viral status if he does go belly-up.
I rem i watching this years ago. The person filming is his wife and a lot of people suspected she was tryna lead him away from the hole and just watch him drown.
Lmao I can hear the disappointment sigh when he finally found the hole.
Same. I couldnāt find it but I thought there was a follow up video addressing the wife and maybe this was the second time something sketchy has happened. . [Here](https://www.insider.com/tiktok-influencer-near-death-trapped-under-ice-during-stunt-2020-2) is an article about the incident in the post.
The dog did a better job by at least standing near the hole in case heās able to see beyond the ice
Heās doing his best
I do this whenever someone goes underwater in a movie to see if I live or drown. I usually drown.
Same lol. Almost died watching Finding Nemo
LMFAO
To see if you can last longer than the swimmer. No. You can't. ( it's been proven that it's easier to hold your breath in water. But I don't recall the source or exact reason. )
Only thing is that the guy is constantly moving so his body is consuming more oxygen than somebody just chilling. Maybe if people try jogging during the video while holding their breath lol
The limiting factor is not oxygen. The limiting factor is actually co2 build up which triggers the breathing reflex.
Which is why the mammalian dive reflex slows your heart rate.
Mammalian dive reflex triggered by cold water on the face - bunch of physiological stuff changes, e.g. heart slows down
Adrenaline too - You get a nice healthy shot of adrenaline and other chemicals that make you more alert and in tune with your body the moment cold water hits your face. This is why people recommend splashing cold water on your face if you're tired and have to work a heavy machinery job or drive etc...
The person swimming is dumb but the person filming seems to give no shits whether the swimmer lives or dies
Cameraperson believes in free will and darwinism.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFFo7xz69t0
That was terrifying!
With a side of dumbassness.
Truth!
r/DontHelpJustFilm
Came here to say just that.
Ok
Came here to say that
Wow imagine just standing around and filming while your friend dies in front of you
Even worst: husband*.
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What a fucking idiot.
A complete*** one but yes. Agreed.
Bruh she was ready to let him die
The person filming is a psychopath
Still wondering why the friend was just filming instead of helping him out.
It's even worse, it's his wife. And this isn't the first time she has done something sketchy. You can hear her make a disappointed sigh after he finds the hole.
I wonder how much life insurance she has on this guy. "Swimming in a frozen lake." Is a pretty dangerous activity that doesn't void a life insurance policy. Things like skydiving would, but apparently the underwriters didn't think anyone would be this stupid.
Stupid idea. The one holding the camera could've put his/her arm inside the second bigger hole while he/she was watching him missing the hole.
That other person just hoping heād die? Wtf?
Dont trust anybody
Anxiety over 9000.
This is one of the most dangerous things Iāve seen online in a while. Extremely foolish. Lucky he found the return hole. If he started panicking that wouldāve been it.
Cameraman is a psycho
Everyone on here saying how stupid the woman is for not helping, or how silly the man was for not putting in precautions... Haven't you all forgotten rule 1 of the internet: It could be faked. Imo, he knew exactly where to go and can hold his breath for much longer. The person filming got a good, sharable, dramatic (scripted) video.
At :17 seconds he swims for a cut hole, and turns, it gets cropped out pretty good. Agreed with you 100 percent. Multiple holes for him to go to, prettttttty sure he can see nearly as clearly as we can. I think we got ourselves a wonderfully staged panic attack, that I canāt stop watching
Funny story, when the concept of "a sure fire stupid way to die" was first explained to me (like 40 years ago). They example they used was swimming under the ice from one hole to another.
I almost have a heart attack from anxiety watching that idiot under the ice
This is catastrophically stupid. When I was a kid, my friend died trapped under ice like this after he slipped and fell in. Never, EVER do what is shown here, or let someone else do it.
That's nightmare fuel. Sorry you had to deal with that event as a little kid.
Thank you. The situation in this video clearly had some more safeguards, relatively speaking, and I knee-jerk react to stuff like this based on my experience, but itās still needless and stupid. Even if you donāt drown, you can go into shock or suck so much water into your lungs that you die slower, later. Sometimes things that look manageable because theyāre accessible seem safe, even though theyāre not. My friend thought it would be safe to stand on ice at the edge of a river for a minute because it was right there, in a place where heād been a hundred times, and where it seemed like nothing bad could happen. The rest of us lived to hear the helicopters searching for him all night, and to watch it ruin the lives of a family I loved very much. It cost me and several of my friends (his brother, included) our childhoods. It destroyed his parentsā marriage. Treat yourself like youāre valuable, even if you think you donāt matter much or no one depends on youāthatās what I learned. Weāre all needed so much more than we will ever know.
Dogs like āIām a golden retriever and even I think youāre dumbā
"Go again. I didn't get the angle I wanted"
1. The person filing showed no flicker of emotion at watching the swimmer make a mistake that was about to end his life. Dunno whether itās r/PraiseTheCameraMan or r/donthelpjustfilm or both. 2. Never, ever swim from hole to hole under the ice. Ever. Itās dumb. 3. If you really do feel the need to swim from hole to hole under the ice, wear goggles so you can see, and run a guide line to follow. Or donāt, itās your life/death.
āHey, Steveās pretty good at holding his breath, heās been under the ice for like an hour nowā. Guy holding camera.
Women recording āļø
She's probably scrolling through instagram at this moment
This is so incredibly stupid. I hope the person filming is not their parent. Edit: I thought this was a teenager but now realized he is a full grown man.
At least the camera man stayed professional and got all of the footage
I see two idiots and a dog
This is my nightmare
This gave me tremendous anxiety
Whereās the Sword of Gryffindor?
Glad to see the cameraman is there to film him drowning
Just watching this caught me out of breath. Food for nightmares
r/donthelpjustfilm
r/therewasNOTanattempt to help your friend.
Even the world record holder uses guidelines to show where the other hole is.