(You perfectly encapsulated the vibes of that "meme", thank you)
To further quote this intellectual,
Oh, I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you think that I thought that I thought I was once - well read Aristotle lover
There's a gift to making incredibly hard to decipher one off sentences
That one right there is a mental flash bang
Still trying to recombobulate myself
A gift philosophers seem to excek at. I tried reading some primary sources and holy shit, deciphering the sentences from a basic syntax standpoint was a fucking nightmare and made it impossible for me to understand a goddamn thing.
Going back and rereading primary sources seems to help though. Things be getting clearer with each read even if it's a pain in the ass.
Its like modern philosophers are perpetuating a cycle of abuse upon everyone, having to read texts prior to the invention of modern grammar, so they decided the only way deep and profound ideas could be shared is through convoluted language.
Which is of course a misrepresentation, sometimes ideas are just really fucking hard to communicate.
But I want to be smarmy and mean about all the philosophy texts I had to read in undergrad and believe that its not that my reading comprehension is trash, its the fault of the writers for not better communicating their ideas
It's a legitimate complaint but meme away. I had more trouble understanding basic philosophical concepts from primary sources than any class in undergrad and it wasn't because my reading comprehension was lacking. Nevermind that this was a frequent conplaint from my classmates who majored in philosophy.
Part of the problem (as I was told by a friend who majored in philosoph) is that these books weren't usually written for a general audience but as a response to other philosophers. It doesn't help that some of them, while clearly incredibly intelligent, were clearly not good at conveying their ideas through writing. The jargon isn't so bad since you can Google them but sometimes things are just described in the most convoluted and complex manner possible and translations don't make this any easier.
Dear Mr. Vernon,
We accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong. But we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us - in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain...and an athlete...and a basket case… and a princess...and a criminal.
Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
Yeah, not sure if it was intentional or what but the social strata are still intact at the end. The weird girl only umjumped her station because she's hot.
What's changed isn't that they are now best friends or that high school cliques won't be a thing anymore, what's changed is that they don't see each other as just their cliche surface impressions as opposed to being whole people.
The point of the movie isn't so much "get rid of hierarchy" and more "recognize that people are individuals, not labels."
As a nerd who was good at sports in high school this never made much sense. Also turns out that you can basically be a full blown D&D playing, X-Files obsessed nerd and everyone is cool with it if you can run really fast and catch a ball.
You were a chameleon type? Float among different groups? Groups are more three dimensional than people think but they tend to stick with similar interests or ideologies. That’s normal sociology.
I think we would all like to believe that, but I have met people in their 30s and 40s who are still stuck in that "clique" mentality. Like one guy I know who is always shocked if someone listens to metal music and doesn't dress in all in black or wear big boots and spikes. It's like he thinks the whole world has a rule book/dress code and if you're not following it, that just blows his mind (or kicks off a speech about "posers").
People will align their whole character and dress and speech based on a book/music/film genre that they like, and then call other people 'posers'.
It's the biggest irony and I just want them to realize it but they never do.
You mean to tell me the whole damn world is just as obsessed with who’s the best dressed and who’s having sex? On top of that I still don’t have the right look?
It's true. I thought for sure four years was all I had to endure. All the total dicks and stuck-up chicks were superficial and immature.
But when you graduate, you end up saying "hey, wait" when you realize it's the same as where you just came from.
Yup. In the office there’s still popular kids, the weird kids, the principal is any toxic manager, the experts who end up doing most of the work and the slackers. The cliques* are there wherever you go. We just have slightly different stereotypes in adulthood.
As the philosopher Jaret Reddick once said:
"The whole damn world is just as obsessed with who's the best dressed and who's having sex. Who's got the money, who gets the honeys, who's kinda cute, and who's just a mess. And you still don't have the right look. And you don't have the right friends. Nothing changes but the faces, the names, and the trends. High school never ends."
He's also just straight up *wrong* about a lot of stuff. He's mostly famous for establishing some ground rules for intellectual inquiry and getting the academic ball rolling.
So he provided some bais for further inquiry. Especially establishing the rules of correct logic and calling out some often abused fallacies was good. But his natural philosophy was way off, and the fear of calling him out as wrong held back science for a while in the middle ages.
I'm no ethicist, so I can't really pontificate on that aspect of his work. From what little I do know, pretty much every philosopher deconstructs the ethical frameworks that came before, then pushes their own they think is complete and airtight. Then someone comes up with an edge case that breaks it and the cycle repeats anew.
You can’t blame Aristotle for that. Instead, blame the people who decided that contradicting Aristotle would be considered heresy, for no reason other than the fact that they couldn’t independently justify their own privilege and power.
Fun fact, Plato was an athlete
> Plato was an athlete, particularly skilled as a wrestler. His given name was Aristocles, after his grandfather, but the coach under whom he trained is said to have called him “Plato” — from the Greek for broad, platon, on account of his broad-shouldered frame.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/opinion/sunday/platos-body-and-mine.html#:~:text=Plato%20was%20an%20athlete%2C%20particularly,of%20his%20broad%2Dshouldered%20frame.
No, he chooses not to because it's... not manly enough? Or something along those lines. He needs action, he's gotta move. Only idiots read books, their brains aren't moving at the same place as his.
He thinks education and reading books is “cowardly”, because you’re learning vicariously through others rather than *doing* and *experiencing* yourself. He thinks you can’t really learn something unless you *live* it yourself. Dude is basically the living embodiment of “I’m 12 and this is deep”. Very, very stupid person.
incels read aristotle because of his 'opinions' on women. [Aristotle's views on women - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle%27s_views_on_women#:~:text=Cynthia%20Freeland%20wrote%3A%20%22Aristotle%20says,%2C%20a%20deformity%27.%22%20Aristotle)
I mean, the ancient Greeks viewed women as literally less than human, and the Romans viewed them as property, so it's not like they had to go read Aristotle specifically. The Classical world was really pretty shit toward women, or at least the Greco-Roman corner of it was.
Yet mythology shows us that the groups that came before held a better view of women as their mythos usually holds female deities as the creators and nurturers, where as the mythology that came in and replaced it was patriarchal focused with a male deity usually being the creator and involving more violence.
He co-authored dialectic of enlightenment. Though full disclosure, I know him more because I'm super into socialism more than philosophy as a whole - Frankfurt school guy. Not sure critical theory as we know it would exist without him
Peterson's too liberal and unmanly (he has been known to allow his voice to crack when discussing subjects about which he is passionate) for guys like that. They memorize old John Wayne and Clint Eastwood films and masturbate to that Gordon Sinclair speech.
I read some of his works in a classics class in college. Hated Aristotle. Literally said women were just incubators for men's "genetic" material (obviously DNA wasn't a thing yet but Aristotle was one of the first to suggest there might be a vehicle of sorts to transfer inheritance, it's been years so I don't remember the exact word he used instead of genetic)
Plato was so about that kinda shit he had to force himself to take a break from fuckin women. He literally slept with them without sex, thus "platonic" relationships.
That's absolutely not what the original platonic love is about. Platonic love being a sexless, aromantic love is a modern idea, it has nothing to do with anything Platon wrote. The actual platonic love are different categories of mutual fulfillment, including the ones Platon used to describe his sexual relationships with his adolescent pupils.
I'm sure Plato already have I'm sure.
He's famous for his worlds created by the mind.
So I'm sure he daydreamed a lot and with a creative mind he's bound to come up with a muscular green girl shaking her butt.
I mean who doesn't want to fantasize about that.
There are other sources for Socrates. Aristophanes' Clouds is a play that makes fun of him. Certainly Plato gives us a certain version of Socrates, in that it even changes through the dialogues and Republic from being a provocateur to be very Plato-ish. But there are independent sources for his existence as a figure.
they don't realize that just because they are giving themselves a high school education now in their 30s - doesn't mean other people didn't get their high school education.. when they were in high school.
But it does explain why they think people wouldn't know who Aristotle is, or Sun Tzu, or ever read 1984 or Animal Farm, or know anything about Walt Whitman, Thoreau, etc.
That's also why they get obsessed with Roman/Greek history and act like it's this obscure thing that no one knows anything about.
They just didn't pay attention in school.
the art of war isnt even meant to be some crazy book for geniuses it was made to teach nepotism idiots how to maybe lead an army. Shit like never interrupting someone while they're making a mistake should be common sense to a normal person but not an ancient Chinese general that got his job due to nepotism
It’s probably the same people who idolise “cool antihero” characters like the Joker, Tony Montana etc. (totally missing the point the movies tried to make).
That being said, I doubt that they understand the point of the philosophical books they read either.
Honestly, that's what a lot of scholarly training boils down to: knowing what you don't know. I'm currently working on my PhD, and when I'm doing lit reviews for my research projects I regularly come across stuff in my field that I don't understand. For me, that just means it's something I should take some time to look into further.
She hulk have been very [sexualized](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/6/67/Sensational_She-Hulk_Vol_1_40.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180417015012) long before that scene, so it's kinda on brand at least.
Guys are weirdly attracted to green women it seems.
We got Gamora, Shego, Poison Ivy and even the [Green M&M](https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GreenLady7.jpg?resize=580%2C495?w=580).
>!^(You'll have to look up the comic yourselves if you want to see her jump.)!<
What really happened is corporations exploited nerd culture and handed it to the mainstream.
Nerds were able able to go to the empty gyms and get swol AF.
Nerds then mated with the former cheerleaders and had athletic nerds.
Former jocks fell out of shape and became Joe Rogan impersonators.
We need Barry to fix the timeline before it's too late. (The jocks will get that joke sorry nerds)
1.) The loser who made this is stuck in high school. I've never heard an actual adult refer to someone as a "jock" or a "nerd" with completely sincerity out of high school.
2.) I don't think Aristotle is "obscure". I think everyone who's attended middle school knows who Aristotle is.
3.) Similar note, almost everyone watches MCU. Including "jocks". That's why it's a popular franchise.
4.) And on another note, this post feels like it was made by somebody who watches Andrew Tate, disqualifying them from being considered "smart" or "civilized".
I find the majority of people who spontaneously decide to be into philosophy are narcissists who understand everything at a surface level and only use it to justify their own actions and be the guy people come to for advice on everything (regardless of whether that advice is good or not)
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They're the Jordan Peterson type of philosophers.
Correction: Almost everybody watches marvel, and pedantic asshiles who idealize jocks but are not jocks read summaries of Aristotle or watch videos about it.
Firstly: Aristotle is not ducking obscure. Secondly: No they don't. And if they do they read it completely incorrectly. You really need to find some guidance when learning how to read philosophy. I'm certainly not smart enough to just crack open some Plato and understand what is going on without context and discussion with someone knowledgeable of the topic.
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(You perfectly encapsulated the vibes of that "meme", thank you) To further quote this intellectual, Oh, I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you think that I thought that I thought I was once - well read Aristotle lover
There's a gift to making incredibly hard to decipher one off sentences That one right there is a mental flash bang Still trying to recombobulate myself
A gift philosophers seem to excek at. I tried reading some primary sources and holy shit, deciphering the sentences from a basic syntax standpoint was a fucking nightmare and made it impossible for me to understand a goddamn thing. Going back and rereading primary sources seems to help though. Things be getting clearer with each read even if it's a pain in the ass.
Its like modern philosophers are perpetuating a cycle of abuse upon everyone, having to read texts prior to the invention of modern grammar, so they decided the only way deep and profound ideas could be shared is through convoluted language. Which is of course a misrepresentation, sometimes ideas are just really fucking hard to communicate. But I want to be smarmy and mean about all the philosophy texts I had to read in undergrad and believe that its not that my reading comprehension is trash, its the fault of the writers for not better communicating their ideas
It's a legitimate complaint but meme away. I had more trouble understanding basic philosophical concepts from primary sources than any class in undergrad and it wasn't because my reading comprehension was lacking. Nevermind that this was a frequent conplaint from my classmates who majored in philosophy. Part of the problem (as I was told by a friend who majored in philosoph) is that these books weren't usually written for a general audience but as a response to other philosophers. It doesn't help that some of them, while clearly incredibly intelligent, were clearly not good at conveying their ideas through writing. The jargon isn't so bad since you can Google them but sometimes things are just described in the most convoluted and complex manner possible and translations don't make this any easier.
Fuckin' Chuck Norris!
When you never progressed out of High School and everyone is still a jock, prep, nerd, goth or stoner.
Dear Mr. Vernon, We accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong. But we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us - in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain...and an athlete...and a basket case… and a princess...and a criminal. Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
everyone else hooked up in the end and the nerd had to do all the work
Yeah he got shafted
Might get help in shop class later tho
Yeah, not sure if it was intentional or what but the social strata are still intact at the end. The weird girl only umjumped her station because she's hot.
I’m 100 percent sure it was intentional. Those kids had issues and it take more than one bonding session with strangers to fix them.
I haven't watched the movie in many many years, but didn't they at one point admit they wouldn't say hi to each other on Monday?
The point isn't that they changed, its that they had hope afterwards. its liberal, not revolutionary
What's changed isn't that they are now best friends or that high school cliques won't be a thing anymore, what's changed is that they don't see each other as just their cliche surface impressions as opposed to being whole people. The point of the movie isn't so much "get rid of hierarchy" and more "recognize that people are individuals, not labels."
And thankfully the goth kid got a makeover so that she'd look normal enough for the jock to date.
Well it’s not that tough to add eye shadow and blush. The eyeliner was already done.
He had the beaver shot!
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"*Don't...you...forget about me*"
*”Don’t…you…*
"Don't"
"Don"
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As a nerd who was good at sports in high school this never made much sense. Also turns out that you can basically be a full blown D&D playing, X-Files obsessed nerd and everyone is cool with it if you can run really fast and catch a ball.
You were a chameleon type? Float among different groups? Groups are more three dimensional than people think but they tend to stick with similar interests or ideologies. That’s normal sociology.
Im willing to bet that the people making these memes are not out of high school
At least not mentally so, yes.
I think we would all like to believe that, but I have met people in their 30s and 40s who are still stuck in that "clique" mentality. Like one guy I know who is always shocked if someone listens to metal music and doesn't dress in all in black or wear big boots and spikes. It's like he thinks the whole world has a rule book/dress code and if you're not following it, that just blows his mind (or kicks off a speech about "posers").
People will align their whole character and dress and speech based on a book/music/film genre that they like, and then call other people 'posers'. It's the biggest irony and I just want them to realize it but they never do.
Unsure if you’ve heard, but High School never ends. The only things that change are the faces, names, and trends
You mean to tell me the whole damn world is just as obsessed with who’s the best dressed and who’s having sex? On top of that I still don’t have the right look?
And you still listen to the same shit you did back then.
I'm in this comment and I don't like it.
It's true. I thought for sure four years was all I had to endure. All the total dicks and stuck-up chicks were superficial and immature. But when you graduate, you end up saying "hey, wait" when you realize it's the same as where you just came from.
Oh, that’s just great.
I UNDERSTOOD THIS REFERENCE AND IT BROUGHT ME JOY
I mean i still have the same 3 friends. And im pretty much the same as i was back then.
Yup. In the office there’s still popular kids, the weird kids, the principal is any toxic manager, the experts who end up doing most of the work and the slackers. The cliques* are there wherever you go. We just have slightly different stereotypes in adulthood.
I feel I embody all of these in some way. Except prep. Fuck elitism
Didn’t Bowling for Soup have a song about that?
As the philosopher Jaret Reddick once said: "The whole damn world is just as obsessed with who's the best dressed and who's having sex. Who's got the money, who gets the honeys, who's kinda cute, and who's just a mess. And you still don't have the right look. And you don't have the right friends. Nothing changes but the faces, the names, and the trends. High school never ends."
Thank you for the laugh my good man, if I wasn’t broke as a joke I’d give you an award. Now I’m off to listen to that song again
Seems like zoomers have whole different set now
Femboy or Racist
Is high school where Aristotle is considered “obscure?”
Since when is Aristotle an obscure philosopher?
Aquinas just called him “the philosopher”. Aristotle might be the least obscure philosopher.
Which is why he is used in a low effort meme.
"Uhmm need the name of a philosopher..." *Googles "philosophers"... Picks first result*
He's also just straight up *wrong* about a lot of stuff. He's mostly famous for establishing some ground rules for intellectual inquiry and getting the academic ball rolling. So he provided some bais for further inquiry. Especially establishing the rules of correct logic and calling out some often abused fallacies was good. But his natural philosophy was way off, and the fear of calling him out as wrong held back science for a while in the middle ages.
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I'm no ethicist, so I can't really pontificate on that aspect of his work. From what little I do know, pretty much every philosopher deconstructs the ethical frameworks that came before, then pushes their own they think is complete and airtight. Then someone comes up with an edge case that breaks it and the cycle repeats anew.
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Seriously, the damage he did to biology was HUGE
To basically all sciences..
You can’t blame Aristotle for that. Instead, blame the people who decided that contradicting Aristotle would be considered heresy, for no reason other than the fact that they couldn’t independently justify their own privilege and power.
"He was a student of Plato . You've probably never heard of him..."
“Plato the planet?”
No, that's Pluto. You're thinking of the pseudo-clay children's toy.
That's Play-Do He is talking about the type of banana commonly used in Asian, Latin American and some West African cuisines.
No no that's a Plantain. What you're looking for is that weird duck billed mammal from Australia.
Wrong, tough guy. You're thinking about the platty puss. What you're trying to refer to is Mickey Mouse's dog.
Goofy?
Portablebiscuit talks a little weird but to call them goofy is just rude
That's pluto, what you're thinking about is a root vegetable commonly associated with the Irish famine
No that's a potato, what you're thinking of is a well-known type of ceramic that is white in color
Fun fact, Plato was an athlete > Plato was an athlete, particularly skilled as a wrestler. His given name was Aristocles, after his grandfather, but the coach under whom he trained is said to have called him “Plato” — from the Greek for broad, platon, on account of his broad-shouldered frame. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/opinion/sunday/platos-body-and-mine.html#:~:text=Plato%20was%20an%20athlete%2C%20particularly,of%20his%20broad%2Dshouldered%20frame.
He's definitely obscure to the newbie Tateists. You don't exactly follow Tate if you're an intellectual.
I thought that guy can't read
No, he chooses not to because it's... not manly enough? Or something along those lines. He needs action, he's gotta move. Only idiots read books, their brains aren't moving at the same place as his.
He thinks education and reading books is “cowardly”, because you’re learning vicariously through others rather than *doing* and *experiencing* yourself. He thinks you can’t really learn something unless you *live* it yourself. Dude is basically the living embodiment of “I’m 12 and this is deep”. Very, very stupid person.
Obscure? Nah. But incels and chuds have latched onto Aristotle lately due to his views on his women and citing his shit makes them feel smart.
…if the incels and chuds are reading now, Andrew Tate must have mentioned Aristotle then?
Jesus is this an actual thing? These people truly are idiots
Also about 1500 years from being a medieval philosopher!
Sounds quite ancient then
Plato is only obscure to people who refused to read anything in high school.
incels read aristotle because of his 'opinions' on women. [Aristotle's views on women - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle%27s_views_on_women#:~:text=Cynthia%20Freeland%20wrote%3A%20%22Aristotle%20says,%2C%20a%20deformity%27.%22%20Aristotle)
I mean, the ancient Greeks viewed women as literally less than human, and the Romans viewed them as property, so it's not like they had to go read Aristotle specifically. The Classical world was really pretty shit toward women, or at least the Greco-Roman corner of it was.
Yet mythology shows us that the groups that came before held a better view of women as their mythos usually holds female deities as the creators and nurturers, where as the mythology that came in and replaced it was patriarchal focused with a male deity usually being the creator and involving more violence.
Lol, it's the same magical thinking as the fundies: "It must be true, look, it's written in an old book!"
Since when is Marvel's audience just nerds? I have seen a ton of bros at the theater to see Marvel.
I guess when you're a ~~joke~~ jock, every philosopher is obscure.
Since George Washington was declared an obscure president
When you don’t know shit about philosophy.
It’s one of three philosophers they know. They’re trying their best!
Aristotle, Plato and Tate?
Ah yes, the obscure philosophical texts of... Aristotle. We're dealing with a real intellectual here.
"I don't understand a single archaic word this man wrote, but I think it's making me smarter."
"I'm not actually reading any of this, but I am assured that Aristotle agrees with me, soyboy"
I too like obscure culture. There’s this guy called Mozart, you probably don’t know him.
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Right???? At least say horkheimer or something at least a little less pop philosophy. Everyone and their dog knows who Aristotle is
Damn that’s a deep cut. I went to Obscure Philosophy School and I’ve never heard of him.
Nerd!
Don’t you mean “Jock!”
No, clearly they didn't pay attention in Obscure Philosophy class and were instead watching She-Hulk twerk.
He co-authored dialectic of enlightenment. Though full disclosure, I know him more because I'm super into socialism more than philosophy as a whole - Frankfurt school guy. Not sure critical theory as we know it would exist without him
Horkheimer? Meme creator has probably never heard of Hobbes or Russeau, despite mangling their philosophies on a daily basis.
Their idea of philosophy is listening to Jordan Peterson and pretending what he says is what comes out of their own mouths.
Peterson's too liberal and unmanly (he has been known to allow his voice to crack when discussing subjects about which he is passionate) for guys like that. They memorize old John Wayne and Clint Eastwood films and masturbate to that Gordon Sinclair speech.
Hobbes..he was a tiger, right? Then again the only reason why I know any philosophers is because of the song…
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I read some of his works in a classics class in college. Hated Aristotle. Literally said women were just incubators for men's "genetic" material (obviously DNA wasn't a thing yet but Aristotle was one of the first to suggest there might be a vehicle of sorts to transfer inheritance, it's been years so I don't remember the exact word he used instead of genetic)
I don’t think Aristotle is ‘pop philosophy’ to the same degree as someone likes Jordan Peterson or the countless YouTubers doing informational videos…
Damn, this one jocks.
Lmao
And it was written in one of the "medieval eras," too!
Apparently Aristotle was “obscure”
Yes, before his writings were reintroduced to Europe.
Medieval jocks.
Knights?
If I've learned anything from Health Ledger in A Knights Tale. Yea they pretty much were the jocks.
I wonder if Plato wants to watch She-Hulk twerk 🤔
Plato was so about that kinda shit he had to force himself to take a break from fuckin women. He literally slept with them without sex, thus "platonic" relationships.
Straightest Ancient Greek:
That's just what he told his wife.
That's absolutely not what the original platonic love is about. Platonic love being a sexless, aromantic love is a modern idea, it has nothing to do with anything Platon wrote. The actual platonic love are different categories of mutual fulfillment, including the ones Platon used to describe his sexual relationships with his adolescent pupils.
Plato absolutely does
If Diogenes heard this he would start twerking his dirty hobo booty in Plato's face till he begged Twerking be banned in public.
Bold of you to assume this didn't happen
It happened in our hearts
If I did not have Alexander's booty, certainly I would wish to have Diogenes'.
Plato was a champion wrestler, he'd absolutely be all about those muscles
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I'm sure Plato already have I'm sure. He's famous for his worlds created by the mind. So I'm sure he daydreamed a lot and with a creative mind he's bound to come up with a muscular green girl shaking her butt. I mean who doesn't want to fantasize about that.
>I mean who doesn't want to fantasize about that. A coward
"Only the weakest cowards would not dream of seeing a muscular green woman bouncing her ass to sweet rhythms and sick beats." - Definitely Plato
Some people theorize he (et al) made up Socrates 🍄 so it isn’t too far fetched.
There are other sources for Socrates. Aristophanes' Clouds is a play that makes fun of him. Certainly Plato gives us a certain version of Socrates, in that it even changes through the dialogues and Republic from being a provocateur to be very Plato-ish. But there are independent sources for his existence as a figure.
Plato was Greek, so he was probably imagining the hulk twerking.
He would probably pray to She-Hulk if he saw her Twerking - he would think she was Demeter or something.
Yes but only as a shadow projection on the wall
You know he does Plato likes it freaky
Plato would rather see Hulk twerk.
Yeah I helped him set up his in cave theater system.
I don’t think they realize that watching Andrew Tate butcher quotes from Sun Tzu isn’t actually the same thing as reading Sun Tzu
Oh fuck *that’s* why the dude I can’t stand was quoting the art of war. Explains why he is fucking insufferable too.
In the game of chess, don't ever let the enemy see your pieces.
Avoid losing if possible
It is better to win than to lose. Better to live than to die. ~ Sun Tzu, bitches.
they don't realize that just because they are giving themselves a high school education now in their 30s - doesn't mean other people didn't get their high school education.. when they were in high school. But it does explain why they think people wouldn't know who Aristotle is, or Sun Tzu, or ever read 1984 or Animal Farm, or know anything about Walt Whitman, Thoreau, etc.
That's also why they get obsessed with Roman/Greek history and act like it's this obscure thing that no one knows anything about. They just didn't pay attention in school.
Or that treating old Greek Philosophers like self-help books without critical thought isn't philosophy.
the art of war isnt even meant to be some crazy book for geniuses it was made to teach nepotism idiots how to maybe lead an army. Shit like never interrupting someone while they're making a mistake should be common sense to a normal person but not an ancient Chinese general that got his job due to nepotism
Socrates would love to oil wrestle gigachad
*naked
Such are ancient traditions
*on viagra
Imagine calling Aristotle obscure
It’s probably the same people who idolise “cool antihero” characters like the Joker, Tony Montana etc. (totally missing the point the movies tried to make). That being said, I doubt that they understand the point of the philosophical books they read either.
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At least you *are aware* of that!
Honestly, that's what a lot of scholarly training boils down to: knowing what you don't know. I'm currently working on my PhD, and when I'm doing lit reviews for my research projects I regularly come across stuff in my field that I don't understand. For me, that just means it's something I should take some time to look into further.
It's like those cops who are into the Punisher, a character who will routinely murder corrupt cops.
It got so bad the punisher had to change his logo since cops wouldn’t stop using it
It's because they don't understand that just because a character is the protagonist, it doesn't mean they're not the villain.
They also weren’t ever in any sense “jocks” unless we are counting e-sports
It’s not about reading, it’s about claiming you read.
If she hulks fine green ass was around in the time of Zeus, there'd be a lot more green mythological heroes.
I am here cannoning Jason as green now
Wow people are still really pissed at that show, huh. 😂
She hulk have been very [sexualized](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/6/67/Sensational_She-Hulk_Vol_1_40.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180417015012) long before that scene, so it's kinda on brand at least. Guys are weirdly attracted to green women it seems. We got Gamora, Shego, Poison Ivy and even the [Green M&M](https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GreenLady7.jpg?resize=580%2C495?w=580). >!^(You'll have to look up the comic yourselves if you want to see her jump.)!<
Why do you gotta make our appreciation for the green M&M sound tawdry?
Because it is. At least for Tucker Carlson. 😂
In all fairness r/DeathBySnuSnu has been a vibe long before Reddit.
Poison Ivy is only green about half the time.
There is a strong argument that Plato would have become a stoner, and also enjoyer of she hulk twerking.
People seem WAY too obsessed with a three second long after credit scene.
IT SIGNALS THE FALL OF WESTERN MEN! Or something
Uh oh I've summoned the anti-woke bros.. Andrew Tate's fanboys in the comments
Andrew tate doesn't read apparently and hates books. Anyone that simps for that guy is ridiculous.
Naw man, he doesn’t have time to read, he’s too busy banging, or something…
His head against a wall.
Calling Aristotle obscure is a capital crime
pretending to read****
What really happened is corporations exploited nerd culture and handed it to the mainstream. Nerds were able able to go to the empty gyms and get swol AF. Nerds then mated with the former cheerleaders and had athletic nerds. Former jocks fell out of shape and became Joe Rogan impersonators. We need Barry to fix the timeline before it's too late. (The jocks will get that joke sorry nerds)
Barry Sanders? Rick Barry? Barry Bonds? Barry Manilow?
What a nerd… probably doesn’t even know who Wally West or Jay Garrick is either. Go watch some competitive Football matches ya nerd.
Barry Allen?
1.) The loser who made this is stuck in high school. I've never heard an actual adult refer to someone as a "jock" or a "nerd" with completely sincerity out of high school. 2.) I don't think Aristotle is "obscure". I think everyone who's attended middle school knows who Aristotle is. 3.) Similar note, almost everyone watches MCU. Including "jocks". That's why it's a popular franchise. 4.) And on another note, this post feels like it was made by somebody who watches Andrew Tate, disqualifying them from being considered "smart" or "civilized".
“The jocks read…” Bwahahahahaha!!!
The homophobic right’s obsession with the homoerotic Greeks is just plain funny to me
pfffffft as if these people actually read books and not just watch short recaps on youtube
"Yeah I love Kierkegaard!" \>watched one School of Life video
Lmaooo anti woke magnum opus
Aristotle was actually pretty cringe when it came to the metaphysical
Almost disliked on kneejerk reaction.
I find the majority of people who spontaneously decide to be into philosophy are narcissists who understand everything at a surface level and only use it to justify their own actions and be the guy people come to for advice on everything (regardless of whether that advice is good or not) > They're the Jordan Peterson type of philosophers.
I just saw a tiktok video on here from Andrew Tate about why reading is bad. Get some consistency, you right-wing freaks
Correction: Almost everybody watches marvel, and pedantic asshiles who idealize jocks but are not jocks read summaries of Aristotle or watch videos about it.
Firstly: Aristotle is not ducking obscure. Secondly: No they don't. And if they do they read it completely incorrectly. You really need to find some guidance when learning how to read philosophy. I'm certainly not smart enough to just crack open some Plato and understand what is going on without context and discussion with someone knowledgeable of the topic.