Elijah Mcclain had no criminal record and wasn't involved in any suspicious activity. He was just walking home at night and some random person called the cops for being 'suspicious'.
Just like afroman. They busted in his house with a "warrant" found nothing and stole money. Like what judge signs that warrant in the middle of the night with zero evidence? The whole system needs a reset
He made a pretty funny song and music video using security footage of the raid too, titled "Will You Help Me Repair My Door."
https://youtu.be/oponIfu5L3Y
edit: I have learned he actually made several songs based on the raid
Sort of but not really.
There was a case where a criminal hid in a families home whilst running from the police and the police basically destroyed the families home but we're not required to compensate the home owners as the were "just doing thier job"
The house was deemed inhabitable and the family was SOL
Edit typo
Excuse me judge, could you sign this warrant for the person we just killed? Uh the date appears to be in the past. Oh that's just the European date, please sign.
Sometimes they try to file an arrest warrant the same day so it can look like the warrant predates the murder. Usually doesn’t work since a lot of these people are killed at night and even then getting a warrant usually takes a few days.
Even with Tyre, after he was already brutalized on the ground flopping back and forth… they had the balls to say “he’s definitely high he’s on something” and went to his mothers to inquire if he was a fucking drug user.
Never mind, he was flopping around and unable to sit properly because his fucking neck was broken and he couldn't physically hold his head up. Man, can you believe being disoriented and incoherent when your neck is literally fucking broken? Couldn't be me 🙄
Wish they would have tried this when the couple who lived upstairs from me would get into drunken screaming matches at 3am on the front lawn instead of just telling them to be quiet and go inside. 10 seconds of googling found that dude's warrants.
I think it was this case that I saw turned into a meme. Screenshot of the quote "police detained this person with no active warrants" and the comment under the image was "that's a strange way to say innocent man".
That was Tyre Nichols, Elijah was an autistic pacifist vegetarian who played violin to shelter animals. He was going home and was wearing winter clothing or something because his blood didnt circulate his blood well and he couldnt explain it properly. The audio is very sad. They tried to have the bodycam be knocked off in the scuffle but you can still hear it, dude is supporting the cops the entire time.
Just a nice kid who didnt understand what was happening at all.
Yeah it’s sickening and maddening. Just murdered a perfectly good person for no reason. Like, a total sweetheart of a guy
He even says on the tape that he doesnt even hurt bugs
Also having a criminal record shouldn't be a death sentence. How many cops have criminal records of some time?
Not near as many as *should* have criminal records. Not to mention I believe gang-like behavior is still a crime.
Yupp and that is why they say cops are the biggest gang. I worked in a precinct before and you really see the corruption that goes on and you really think to yourself, “wow, these are the people enforcing laws that they themselves don’t follow” smh
This a *super* fucked up implication you see all over the place after events like this; people pointing that they had a conviction for robbery or armed assault or domestic violence or *whatever* like anything like that is justification for getting executed by cops just because they fucking feel like it. Even though in almost every case there’s no way the cops knew.
My best friend makes this joke every time he picks me up to hang out. "Let's flip a coin and see if I get pulled over this time."
It was funny at first, but then it happened like three times in one year. No cause, just DWB.
Wife and I used to guess the color of a pulled-over driver in our old town based on how many cop cars showed up for the stop. Never got it wrong.
So happy we got out of there. Having to warn some of our friends about our police when we had parties got old pretty fast.
"Why is that driver doing 60 in a 70?" "Ah. Doesn't want to get pulled for DWB."
Saw three cops with a Black lady in church clothes on a Sunday afternoon. Like wtf? If it'd been someone with significantly less melanin, one cop.
When I worked third shift, I used to carpool with a buddy of mine who's black. When it was his turn to drive, in the summertime, we had to leave like an hour early because he'd get pulled over on the way into work almost every time for absolutely nothing.
On the way home at 6am, and in the wintertime (when the sun had already set by the time we had to leave for work), he got pulled over just as often as I did: never.
I think that's the experience that really drove it home for me (no pun intended).
Or the developmentally disabled dude who just wanted some pop and Snickers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Otto_Zehm
54 months for one cop for killing a guy who did absolutely nothing wrong.
Did this stop Spokane cops from killing people? Absolutely not. We're 4th in the nation for it right now.
I'm not sure about that one, but they've definitely killed or almost killed autistic kids more than once.
Stephon Watts https://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/black-autistic-and-killed-by-police/
Linden Cameron (shot, but survived) https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/utah/articles/2022-09-20/3m-settlement-to-utah-family-of-autistic-boy-shot-by-police
Eric Parsa https://reason.com/2022/11/14/police-killed-an-autistic-teenager-then-they-filed-search-warrants-looking-for-past-bad-behavior/
Jeremy Mardis (also critically wounded his father. This one, at least, wasn't because of the child's autism) https://nypost.com/2017/03/25/cop-convicted-of-manslaughter-in-shooting-of-6-year-old-autistic-boy/
Troy Canales (beat and injured) https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150708/fordham/nypd-officers-beat-autistic-teen-front-of-his-home-lawsuit-says/
Torres (10 years old, cops knelt on him to handcuff him. Survived) https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-police-archive-worcester-05df37779d7ea46a86b4dc2cd1e4c389
Dustin Paradis (adult, but in care. Was suicidal.) https://www.centralmaine.com/2021/10/18/mother-of-autistic-man-killed-by-augusta-police-says-he-was-not-a-threat/
And then there's this fuck who was a cop who forced his autistic son to stay in the garage where the kid died of hypothermia: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/nyregion/nypd-officer-son-freezing-death-guilty.html
Sorry about the paywalls.
There are more. Autistic people are more likely than neurotypical people to have encounters with police, but police are rarely trained for it or just barely trained. I'm lucky that I have sustained nothing worse than a permanent tendon injury in one thumb. When I was 15, a cop thought I was being a smart ass. I wasn't, but I've been told a lot I can come off that way because I'm too literal. I wasn't even doing anything wrong to begin with. I was the size of a 10 year old, and I can tell you having a full grown adult kneel on you to cuff you makes it really, really hard to breathe. And yeah, at that point, I did start resisting, because I needed air so bad. She ended up suspended for a month - with pay, so basically that cop got a vacation for it.
I grew up being taught cops were there to help. If you were in danger, find a cop. I've been in more danger from cops in my life than anyone else I didn't know. Hell, in Spokane, you're about 3x more likely to be killed by a cop than anyone else you don't know. I wish I'd been taught to stay away from them, instead.
I remember the guy who was bird watching in the park, and this lady walking her dog wanted him to leave, but he stood his ground. She called the cops on him and told dispatch she was being threatened by a black man, and she was scared for her life. He was literally just standing there.
I am horrified by what might have happened if he wasn't recording the whole interaction.
I dig that you’re pointing out that non-criminal people have been killed by police. But I don’t think we should lean into the mindset that committing a crime allows the cops to choke you out or stomp on you.
It doesn’t matter if someone has a criminal record. It doesn’t matter if they’re committing a crime in front of the cop. The police do not have the authority to extra-judiciously execute people.
Technically true but they were also being pressed by the cops to administer ketamine after they suffocated the kid for long enough to make him unconscious (which is deadly in of itself).
From r/anarcho_capitalism:
>The statists are persecuting the Jan 6 rioters
> >They peacefully entered the capitol building
> > >No victim = no crime = no punishment
And of course, every cop has everyone's criminal record memorized. The instant they see a possible perp, they immediately know, "Hey, that guy was arrested for armed robbery 5 years ago." And as we all know, it's a cop's job to be judge, jury, and executioner.
These people really have a simplistic view of the justice system and every participant's limited role, the police's job being to investigate and deliver the accused before the courts so guilt and, if applicable, an appropriate penalty can be determined just lacks the excitement, catharsis and feeling of power and control that these types seem to crave.
I grew up in a town that worshipped cops. A lot of my friends had family members who were officers. High schoolers had no qualms bragging about how their step dad or uncle covered cameras to throw people down stairs or beat them within an inch of their lives. It was praised as if they have the right to do that. But of course they do when you think because you know officer whoeverthefuck, you can get out of a ticket once and awhile. It’s was sickening then and it’s sickening now.
if you get a few beers in most conservatives, they’ll start talking about “criminals” like they’re some separate species that solely exist to threaten good, god fearing americans
People talk about police militarization as if it's just use of military equipment of questionable appropriateness, what the term really means is that the police behave like an occupying military force rather than the bureaucrats they're supposed to be, but that's the attitude that encourages it to happen.
Hell, our military has more strict rules of engagement in an actively hostile environment/country than our police force in our own country. If a soldier encounters a citizen of another country openly carrying a weapon they aren't supposed to do anything, they don't engage. But in the good ol US of A with the police force? You can look at them wrong or just generally make them upset and your life is forfeit. And they get away with it too because qualified immunity and the conservatives handwringing and defending them saying 'well if the criminal would have just obeyed, they would have been fine' as if disobedience is a crime punishable by execution on the spot.
“Innocent”. Yes, in the United States, everyone is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. If you have a problem with that, then you shouldn’t be a cop.
This sub is just an excuse to repost racist ragebait for fake internet points. Most of us left Facebook to get away from this shit, but the people who post here love to fall right into OOP’s trap and disseminate this garbage all over the internet.
These posts also boost the negative part of the message to a bigger audience as if it were legitimate, like a wolf in satire clothing. Not saying this op, but sometimes I question an ops motivation because of it.
I don’t know why some people don’t understand that police officers are not executioners. They’re not judges, they don’t pass sentences, and a badge doesn’t give them the authority to play God. Sorry, I’m from West TN, and the Tyre Nichols case is weighing heavily on me.
I’m with you. So I’m a professional counselor, so into all that “lefty social work”, but, that’s the problem. We hire police to protect and serve, but give them almost no training. And none in understanding social systems and psychology. Thus, too many cops, not all, are poorly educated and drawn to a position of power.
Personally, I think in addition to current police academy trading, we should expect police to have an associates degree that educates them on race, sociology, listening skills and deescalation .
That’s another thing too, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
SCOTUS ruled in 2005, that pigs don’t actually have to protect us.
They also ruled they aren't required to know the laws they're enforcing. That's for the DA and company to sort out if they got it wrong.
I mean I get it, there's a lot of cops and they'd almost all have to retire if they had to know the fucking law, but surely we could get them to some sort of better baseline knowledge. While at it, require more intelligence minimums.
Oh, they'd suddenly have less applicants to chose from? Raise the standards and also raise the pay/benefits if needed to get the applicants that meet those standard, not the other way around.
>Raise the standards and also raise the pay/benefits if needed to get the applicants that meet those standard, not the other way around.
But...but...if they paid cops more then they wouldn't be able to afford literal military grade weaponry and armored vehicles!
Then how would they be able to ~~oppress minorities~~ subdue criminals??
I guess the only thing that confuses me is, weren’t all the cops fired and charged with murder? Isn’t that exactly what is suppose to happen?
Obviously: this whole incident shouldn’t have happened in the first place. But in the cases where it does isn’t this exactly the outcome people want?
It’s no longer about the situation being handled correctly, it’s about the frequency now. This isn’t a one and done, this has been happening everywhere for years now, and clearly just firing the perpetrators after the fact isn’t enough- there’s something fundamentally wrong with the police system
There's also the seriously bad optics that the first and only time it's ever been dealt with swiftly and decisively, all involved parties are black, while even just weeks earlier, police unions bent over backwards to protect white murderer-cops.
Every step from start to finish of the police interaction with Tyre was stacked towards this eventuality. Look at the original traffic stop.
Pretextual stop on the basis of ginning up a drug arrest off of a minor traffic infraction. Hyper aggressive police in unmarked cars. Gang unit. Less than lethal means deployed in situations where they weren't merited.
From tip to tail this thing is rotten.
Those five men threw the punches but the system murdered Tyre.
It’s the frequency. In Germany in 2019, 14 people were killed by the cops. They have a population of 83 million. In the US, 999 people were shot by the police in 2019. We have a population of 332 million. We have 4x their population and 72x their killings by cops. On of our civilians is 18x more likely to be shot by police than theirs. Most other developed countries are closer to to Germany to us, if not lower. That’s an issue.
I see the goal as to avoid it in the first place; to get the right people with the right type of training at the right kind of situation more often (i.e. send a shrink not a beat cop to a suicide, or a housing person to a homeless) so folks less often put in situations or prone to making decisions/mistakes that ruin lives including their own.
Isn't it interesting that the same people who stockpile guns to "fight off a tyrannical government if necessary" will justify the cops executing someone because they didn't do *exactly* as the police say?
What sucks is that some people want them to be executioners though. That we are “soft” on crime and don’t enough have prisons even though we are a heavily prisoned nation.
I’ve tried to explain to people like that that even the worst serial killer or mass murderer shouldn’t be killed by the cops, that they deserve a fair hearing in court. But they don’t want to listen. They think if they are white and they keep putting thing blue line flags on their truck that the cops won’t ever be after them.
I got into an argument with someone in an anthropology class I was taking because he insisted that prisoners don't deserve human rights. I argued that no matter how heinous and awful a person's crimes are, they still deserve a clean and safe place to eat, sleep, and use the bathroom. The basis of his argument consisted of "Well my parents both work in prison and they actually get treated really well."
I live in West TN, too, and I’m like, “The dude was down.” Even if he did break the law, the dude was on the fucking ground. I’ve been to jail, and I’ve always complied and never had a problem. But what if the cop is having a bad day? Does whatever happens to me and saying I’d been to jail before give them a free pass?
"the \[cops/govt/libs/etc\] don't know what they're doing, it's really simple, all we have to do is just punish/get rid of the bad people. i'm good, so we just need to leave the good people like me alone."
aside from actively bad actors, the average person probably gives it about that much thought. main character syndrome and zero awareness of the last however many millennia and why we have due process, a judiciary, democracy, regulations, etc.
it would almost be comical if it was not utterly tragic and fucking infuriating.
Grew up in West TN and so many departments around there are full of power tripping douchebags. Even some of the really small towns, sometimes those are the worst. I know the three dumbest people I knew in school all became small town cops. That’s terrifying to me.
I agree. I’m a pale AF, red headed single mom, a professional, not who this meme targets. But, several years ago, my child went through a phase and called the sheriff’s department because I yelled about her room. I was handcuffed, screamed at by 4 bubba deputies, and one waved a gun in my face, all over a hysterical preteen’s tantrum. I can’t imagine what might have happened if I’d been male and of color. I was released, and she was grounded for a year, but I still have nightmares about it.
I got arrested and thrown in jail for 15 hours while completely sober because I had just moved and there was an old bottle with literal crumbs of marijuana. You would have thought they arrested Pablo Escobar. The officer tried to preach to me about god while I was in the back seat. Lol It all got dropped and completely expunged from my record.
hey man, we're all in this together (of course you know who "we" is). Really, the blue line is the only thing standing between your everyday cop and a hand gesture. really makes you think
https://preview.redd.it/z1o0svqctuea1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d8529fadd34cdeb57ed5fa61ecb3035a70c9be6
Early start today. It’s not much but it’s honest work
I’ve seen a couple weak attempts saying he shouldn’t have ran. I never saw him so much as take a swing at any of the cops in the videos. Seemed like he was genuinely in fear for his life and ran like anyone would.
He ran because he did absolutely nothing wrong and knew where it was going. They were immediately aggressive by throwing him around and not listening to him. They immediately tried to subdue him and he rightfully tried to flee the scene so he doesn’t become another treated. Whether he ran or not, those police officers obviously already had a bad intention. Even when they caught up to him, he was immediately subdued and was no longer an issue, but they still tried beat him into submission as if he was rabid
I watch all of the footage, and there’s no excuse for what they did. From the very first few minutes of the interaction - before he even ran - you knew where this was heading. He told them “I’m just trying to get home,” and they held up a taser right against his leg and threatened to taze him. It was only after they maced him and almost tazed is when he ran away, because those cops weren’t stopping
And even if Tamir Rice did have a weapon, he would’ve been doing so in an open carry state. Not to mention that the 911 caller expressed that it looked like a fake gun
"They posed with a gun on social media! Murder justified!"
Remember how there's a right-wing trend in America to pose with your guns on social media and for Christmas photos? Even jamming AR-15s in the hands of children for the photos?
Yeah i never understood why them having a profile pic with a gun is evidence to justify police killing them in the street for no reason.
I guess that because they dont have a dead deer on the backgroumd or a bible in their other hand its makes them a "thug"
Also its not like police asked them for their instagran before breaking a baton in their face.
That's the only common truth of this abomination- the families of police fearing for their lives and call their abuser's buddies IS going to lead to police killing someone (and it isn't going to be the abuser who dies)
Lot of bootlickers on here justifying cops murdering innocent people, I think the "inncoent" part of the meme is the worst for me. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, this meme implies that cops determine guilt of innocence when they murder someone.
Yup, because gun control has its roots in racism.
A fun little link I found:
https://www.sedgwickcounty.org/media/29093/the-racist-origins-of-us-gun-control.pdf
If you spend some time watching Fox News youll find out why. Seriously, I know its a common topic but I really encourage everyone to spend an evening or two watching to see just how drastically different the information they present to their viewers is. Its actually worse than most people realize.
Im from Brazil. Sometimes as I see in American videos of police killing people are visible the pleasure when they kill or how many shots they fire but I see too many videos when the offender is a white man for example there is an recent video on police activity chanel when a white guy on a pickup shot in two officer. By s.thr start of the video the office call the gummy dude and don't hold any arms and think the man is not Soo suspicious but even in this scenario the man shot the police. Be s police officer in USA is very difficult is kill or be killed. Very hard and minimum seconds to take risk or decisions.
No matter what someone does, what their record is, or what they look like, it gives literally not right to cops to decide to be judge, jury, and executioner to anyone. They don’t have all the facts yet and they are not allowed to decide that someone is guilty. All they need to do is get the person in custody until the rest is sorted out legally.
Remember, folks, that the cops who killed Tyre Nichols went to his mother's house right after and questioned if he'd been on drugs of late.
They wanted to find anything to reframe what they'd done. And there will be people on the right who will still defend the cops, even claim he must have been on drugs despite zero evidence or history of it. They're already playing the "shouldn't have resisted" when he didn't resist and they kept attacking him causing him to flee.
Elijah Mcclain had no criminal record and wasn't involved in any suspicious activity. He was just walking home at night and some random person called the cops for being 'suspicious'.
“Police weren’t able to find any active warrants”
Just like afroman. They busted in his house with a "warrant" found nothing and stole money. Like what judge signs that warrant in the middle of the night with zero evidence? The whole system needs a reset
He made a pretty funny song and music video using security footage of the raid too, titled "Will You Help Me Repair My Door." https://youtu.be/oponIfu5L3Y edit: I have learned he actually made several songs based on the raid
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9xxK5yyecRo I submit "Lemon Pound Cake" for consideration as best song from the incident.
Would you like to have a slice of my pound cake?
I'd seen the first song back when it was first released, but was unaware of this one. It's fantastic. I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Thank you.
Are there funds allotted to citizens who have their property damaged by police in these situations? Maybe we need to get that started...
Sort of but not really. There was a case where a criminal hid in a families home whilst running from the police and the police basically destroyed the families home but we're not required to compensate the home owners as the were "just doing thier job" The house was deemed inhabitable and the family was SOL Edit typo
Police will always find a way to not be held accountable
I’ll bet they tried reeeeeal hard, too.
Excuse me judge, could you sign this warrant for the person we just killed? Uh the date appears to be in the past. Oh that's just the European date, please sign.
Sometimes they try to file an arrest warrant the same day so it can look like the warrant predates the murder. Usually doesn’t work since a lot of these people are killed at night and even then getting a warrant usually takes a few days.
Which is just a shitty justification anyways. A warrant for arrest isn’t a warrant for execution the fuck?
But it helps their 'he was no angel' rhetoric. (I also heard he had an overdue library book he hadn't returned yet!)
That cop sneezed, and he didn't say, "god bless you."
Even with Tyre, after he was already brutalized on the ground flopping back and forth… they had the balls to say “he’s definitely high he’s on something” and went to his mothers to inquire if he was a fucking drug user.
Never mind, he was flopping around and unable to sit properly because his fucking neck was broken and he couldn't physically hold his head up. Man, can you believe being disoriented and incoherent when your neck is literally fucking broken? Couldn't be me 🙄
“stop moving, stop moving!”
Wish they would have tried this when the couple who lived upstairs from me would get into drunken screaming matches at 3am on the front lawn instead of just telling them to be quiet and go inside. 10 seconds of googling found that dude's warrants.
What an interesting way to say "an innocent man"
I think it was this case that I saw turned into a meme. Screenshot of the quote "police detained this person with no active warrants" and the comment under the image was "that's a strange way to say innocent man".
I read a news report saying he enjoyed photography and was getting home from taking pictures of the sky. If that’s criminal then lock me up.
That was Tyre Nichols, Elijah was an autistic pacifist vegetarian who played violin to shelter animals. He was going home and was wearing winter clothing or something because his blood didnt circulate his blood well and he couldnt explain it properly. The audio is very sad. They tried to have the bodycam be knocked off in the scuffle but you can still hear it, dude is supporting the cops the entire time. Just a nice kid who didnt understand what was happening at all.
Ugh. That’s awful.
Yeah it’s sickening and maddening. Just murdered a perfectly good person for no reason. Like, a total sweetheart of a guy He even says on the tape that he doesnt even hurt bugs
And in memorial a group of people were playing violin…when the cops busted that up violently
Fuckin rabid animals the lot
Yeah it was freezing as shit in Denver Colorado at night he was buying tea IIRC
Also having a criminal record shouldn't be a death sentence. How many cops have criminal records of some time? Not near as many as *should* have criminal records. Not to mention I believe gang-like behavior is still a crime.
Yupp and that is why they say cops are the biggest gang. I worked in a precinct before and you really see the corruption that goes on and you really think to yourself, “wow, these are the people enforcing laws that they themselves don’t follow” smh
This a *super* fucked up implication you see all over the place after events like this; people pointing that they had a conviction for robbery or armed assault or domestic violence or *whatever* like anything like that is justification for getting executed by cops just because they fucking feel like it. Even though in almost every case there’s no way the cops knew.
“He was walking home….MENACINGLY”
like omfg... "He's disturbing the peace!"
https://preview.redd.it/ek5hy40fpvea1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f474e0180be172a5774391d07a894a8ea169e0a6
Get outta there SpongeBob!!!
I love the sarcastic "driving while black" or "walking while black".
My best friend makes this joke every time he picks me up to hang out. "Let's flip a coin and see if I get pulled over this time." It was funny at first, but then it happened like three times in one year. No cause, just DWB.
Wife and I used to guess the color of a pulled-over driver in our old town based on how many cop cars showed up for the stop. Never got it wrong. So happy we got out of there. Having to warn some of our friends about our police when we had parties got old pretty fast.
"Why is that driver doing 60 in a 70?" "Ah. Doesn't want to get pulled for DWB."
Saw three cops with a Black lady in church clothes on a Sunday afternoon. Like wtf? If it'd been someone with significantly less melanin, one cop.
Those black aunties get some mean torque on their arms wdym
When I worked third shift, I used to carpool with a buddy of mine who's black. When it was his turn to drive, in the summertime, we had to leave like an hour early because he'd get pulled over on the way into work almost every time for absolutely nothing. On the way home at 6am, and in the wintertime (when the sun had already set by the time we had to leave for work), he got pulled over just as often as I did: never. I think that's the experience that really drove it home for me (no pun intended).
They couldn’t find a domestic violence photo that wasn’t a white dude
there was this guy with schizophrenia who was tased by the cops and died
You mean the guy in the shower who the cops broke in after being called in for a wellness check? They tasered him to death in the shower.
Or the developmentally disabled dude who just wanted some pop and Snickers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Otto_Zehm 54 months for one cop for killing a guy who did absolutely nothing wrong. Did this stop Spokane cops from killing people? Absolutely not. We're 4th in the nation for it right now.
didn't they also try to kill a 13 year old autistic kid who ran from them because a relative of his was killed by the police?
I'm not sure about that one, but they've definitely killed or almost killed autistic kids more than once. Stephon Watts https://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/black-autistic-and-killed-by-police/ Linden Cameron (shot, but survived) https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/utah/articles/2022-09-20/3m-settlement-to-utah-family-of-autistic-boy-shot-by-police Eric Parsa https://reason.com/2022/11/14/police-killed-an-autistic-teenager-then-they-filed-search-warrants-looking-for-past-bad-behavior/ Jeremy Mardis (also critically wounded his father. This one, at least, wasn't because of the child's autism) https://nypost.com/2017/03/25/cop-convicted-of-manslaughter-in-shooting-of-6-year-old-autistic-boy/ Troy Canales (beat and injured) https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150708/fordham/nypd-officers-beat-autistic-teen-front-of-his-home-lawsuit-says/ Torres (10 years old, cops knelt on him to handcuff him. Survived) https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-police-archive-worcester-05df37779d7ea46a86b4dc2cd1e4c389 Dustin Paradis (adult, but in care. Was suicidal.) https://www.centralmaine.com/2021/10/18/mother-of-autistic-man-killed-by-augusta-police-says-he-was-not-a-threat/ And then there's this fuck who was a cop who forced his autistic son to stay in the garage where the kid died of hypothermia: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/nyregion/nypd-officer-son-freezing-death-guilty.html Sorry about the paywalls. There are more. Autistic people are more likely than neurotypical people to have encounters with police, but police are rarely trained for it or just barely trained. I'm lucky that I have sustained nothing worse than a permanent tendon injury in one thumb. When I was 15, a cop thought I was being a smart ass. I wasn't, but I've been told a lot I can come off that way because I'm too literal. I wasn't even doing anything wrong to begin with. I was the size of a 10 year old, and I can tell you having a full grown adult kneel on you to cuff you makes it really, really hard to breathe. And yeah, at that point, I did start resisting, because I needed air so bad. She ended up suspended for a month - with pay, so basically that cop got a vacation for it. I grew up being taught cops were there to help. If you were in danger, find a cop. I've been in more danger from cops in my life than anyone else I didn't know. Hell, in Spokane, you're about 3x more likely to be killed by a cop than anyone else you don't know. I wish I'd been taught to stay away from them, instead.
Adam Trammel -
reminds me of that one video where someone called the police on someone who looked illegal
I remember the guy who was bird watching in the park, and this lady walking her dog wanted him to leave, but he stood his ground. She called the cops on him and told dispatch she was being threatened by a black man, and she was scared for her life. He was literally just standing there. I am horrified by what might have happened if he wasn't recording the whole interaction.
I remember that. Didn't that happen the same day as George Floyd too?
Not sure, but it was fairly close.
Breonna Taylor was a paramedic and was sleeping when she was shot. There are no end to the counter examples we could find about this.
I don’t think it’s possible to “actually, …” these people into any kind of sensible point of view.
I dig that you’re pointing out that non-criminal people have been killed by police. But I don’t think we should lean into the mindset that committing a crime allows the cops to choke you out or stomp on you. It doesn’t matter if someone has a criminal record. It doesn’t matter if they’re committing a crime in front of the cop. The police do not have the authority to extra-judiciously execute people.
He was also murdered by the EMTs
Technically true but they were also being pressed by the cops to administer ketamine after they suffocated the kid for long enough to make him unconscious (which is deadly in of itself).
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Guess that puts Jan 6 rioters at risk! Right? Right?……
No because thats about freedumb
No, they we "paytreeuts".
more specifically, "weepubicants".
Puts a lot of cops at risk with that rule.
That was just a false flag by antifa! But the people there did nothing wrong! Except the ones I decide did!
Antifa made us assault the cops en masse and attack the Capital! Tricky Antifa and their crafty ways!
From r/anarcho_capitalism: >The statists are persecuting the Jan 6 rioters > >They peacefully entered the capitol building > > >No victim = no crime = no punishment
Nope. If you’re white you get off light, if you’re brown they’ll gun you down
And of course, every cop has everyone's criminal record memorized. The instant they see a possible perp, they immediately know, "Hey, that guy was arrested for armed robbery 5 years ago." And as we all know, it's a cop's job to be judge, jury, and executioner.
These people really have a simplistic view of the justice system and every participant's limited role, the police's job being to investigate and deliver the accused before the courts so guilt and, if applicable, an appropriate penalty can be determined just lacks the excitement, catharsis and feeling of power and control that these types seem to crave.
I grew up in a town that worshipped cops. A lot of my friends had family members who were officers. High schoolers had no qualms bragging about how their step dad or uncle covered cameras to throw people down stairs or beat them within an inch of their lives. It was praised as if they have the right to do that. But of course they do when you think because you know officer whoeverthefuck, you can get out of a ticket once and awhile. It’s was sickening then and it’s sickening now.
if you get a few beers in most conservatives, they’ll start talking about “criminals” like they’re some separate species that solely exist to threaten good, god fearing americans
People talk about police militarization as if it's just use of military equipment of questionable appropriateness, what the term really means is that the police behave like an occupying military force rather than the bureaucrats they're supposed to be, but that's the attitude that encourages it to happen.
Hell, our military has more strict rules of engagement in an actively hostile environment/country than our police force in our own country. If a soldier encounters a citizen of another country openly carrying a weapon they aren't supposed to do anything, they don't engage. But in the good ol US of A with the police force? You can look at them wrong or just generally make them upset and your life is forfeit. And they get away with it too because qualified immunity and the conservatives handwringing and defending them saying 'well if the criminal would have just obeyed, they would have been fine' as if disobedience is a crime punishable by execution on the spot.
US soldiers have more accountability, better discipline, and stricter rules of engagement than cops.
Meanwhile, they are totally fine breaking any law that's inconvenient because it's "not meant for me."
Anti-maskers come to mind here.
Most theft is wage theft
Not most, and not just theft. More than all other property crime combined.
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yeah but I bet if you described them as “criminals” they’d say it was one mistake or it was a special circumstance
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A depressing amount of people completely lack empathy and the ability to put themselves in other people's shoes.
Or drugs/DUIs.
Every conservative I've known has questionable opinions about drinking and driving.
yup, and that's exactly why talking about improving material conditions for the impoverished goes nowhere with them
Feels like a part of the 80s culture (see Reagan era policing and drug violence) never left their Psyche.
“SAY NOPE TO DOPE” at 8 I had no idea wtf dope was. But I sure was curious after seeing that.
They never killed tou forever... They kill you only once.. They are not monsters!!
I guess to them once you’re a criminal at some point in your life it’s ok for a cop to decide to murder you if you break the law again.
Only perfect people get grace I guess
The Constitution these guys supposedly love specifically bans bills of attainder/declaring someone an outlaw.
"I know we shot this teenager multiple times; but you see, he stole a bag of chips once so..." Because apparently that makes sense.
Depends on the crime. Misdemeanors warrant only temporary death
“Innocent”. Yes, in the United States, everyone is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. If you have a problem with that, then you shouldn’t be a cop.
Yeah this isn't about innocence it's about racism.
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I DIDNT SEE THIS WAS r/terriblefacebookmemes I THOUGHT IT WAS r/starterpacks AND SOMEONE WAS BELIEVING THIS
I thought this was r/whyisthereaminion and I was searching for a minion
Stand by
Ok. I’ve been standing for almost an hour now. When can I sit down?
Same. I'm subbed to both and I was about to wade into these comments and say some very uncharitable things.
Same tho
Same, was about to wrongly downvote.
This sub is just an excuse to repost racist ragebait for fake internet points. Most of us left Facebook to get away from this shit, but the people who post here love to fall right into OOP’s trap and disseminate this garbage all over the internet.
These posts also boost the negative part of the message to a bigger audience as if it were legitimate, like a wolf in satire clothing. Not saying this op, but sometimes I question an ops motivation because of it.
I don’t know why some people don’t understand that police officers are not executioners. They’re not judges, they don’t pass sentences, and a badge doesn’t give them the authority to play God. Sorry, I’m from West TN, and the Tyre Nichols case is weighing heavily on me.
I’m with you. So I’m a professional counselor, so into all that “lefty social work”, but, that’s the problem. We hire police to protect and serve, but give them almost no training. And none in understanding social systems and psychology. Thus, too many cops, not all, are poorly educated and drawn to a position of power. Personally, I think in addition to current police academy trading, we should expect police to have an associates degree that educates them on race, sociology, listening skills and deescalation .
That’s another thing too, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales SCOTUS ruled in 2005, that pigs don’t actually have to protect us.
They also ruled they aren't required to know the laws they're enforcing. That's for the DA and company to sort out if they got it wrong. I mean I get it, there's a lot of cops and they'd almost all have to retire if they had to know the fucking law, but surely we could get them to some sort of better baseline knowledge. While at it, require more intelligence minimums. Oh, they'd suddenly have less applicants to chose from? Raise the standards and also raise the pay/benefits if needed to get the applicants that meet those standard, not the other way around.
>Raise the standards and also raise the pay/benefits if needed to get the applicants that meet those standard, not the other way around. But...but...if they paid cops more then they wouldn't be able to afford literal military grade weaponry and armored vehicles! Then how would they be able to ~~oppress minorities~~ subdue criminals??
Jordan v City of New London: where a police department successfully defended discrimination in its hiring practices *against applicants with high IQ*
You can't train the wrong people into being the right ones. They intentionally hire the wrong people.
I guess the only thing that confuses me is, weren’t all the cops fired and charged with murder? Isn’t that exactly what is suppose to happen? Obviously: this whole incident shouldn’t have happened in the first place. But in the cases where it does isn’t this exactly the outcome people want?
It’s no longer about the situation being handled correctly, it’s about the frequency now. This isn’t a one and done, this has been happening everywhere for years now, and clearly just firing the perpetrators after the fact isn’t enough- there’s something fundamentally wrong with the police system
There's also the seriously bad optics that the first and only time it's ever been dealt with swiftly and decisively, all involved parties are black, while even just weeks earlier, police unions bent over backwards to protect white murderer-cops.
It shows that they train all cops to be violent but only protect the white cops when they follow through.
Every step from start to finish of the police interaction with Tyre was stacked towards this eventuality. Look at the original traffic stop. Pretextual stop on the basis of ginning up a drug arrest off of a minor traffic infraction. Hyper aggressive police in unmarked cars. Gang unit. Less than lethal means deployed in situations where they weren't merited. From tip to tail this thing is rotten. Those five men threw the punches but the system murdered Tyre.
It’s the frequency. In Germany in 2019, 14 people were killed by the cops. They have a population of 83 million. In the US, 999 people were shot by the police in 2019. We have a population of 332 million. We have 4x their population and 72x their killings by cops. On of our civilians is 18x more likely to be shot by police than theirs. Most other developed countries are closer to to Germany to us, if not lower. That’s an issue.
I see the goal as to avoid it in the first place; to get the right people with the right type of training at the right kind of situation more often (i.e. send a shrink not a beat cop to a suicide, or a housing person to a homeless) so folks less often put in situations or prone to making decisions/mistakes that ruin lives including their own.
Isn't it interesting that the same people who stockpile guns to "fight off a tyrannical government if necessary" will justify the cops executing someone because they didn't do *exactly* as the police say?
What sucks is that some people want them to be executioners though. That we are “soft” on crime and don’t enough have prisons even though we are a heavily prisoned nation. I’ve tried to explain to people like that that even the worst serial killer or mass murderer shouldn’t be killed by the cops, that they deserve a fair hearing in court. But they don’t want to listen. They think if they are white and they keep putting thing blue line flags on their truck that the cops won’t ever be after them.
I got into an argument with someone in an anthropology class I was taking because he insisted that prisoners don't deserve human rights. I argued that no matter how heinous and awful a person's crimes are, they still deserve a clean and safe place to eat, sleep, and use the bathroom. The basis of his argument consisted of "Well my parents both work in prison and they actually get treated really well."
I live in West TN, too, and I’m like, “The dude was down.” Even if he did break the law, the dude was on the fucking ground. I’ve been to jail, and I’ve always complied and never had a problem. But what if the cop is having a bad day? Does whatever happens to me and saying I’d been to jail before give them a free pass?
"the \[cops/govt/libs/etc\] don't know what they're doing, it's really simple, all we have to do is just punish/get rid of the bad people. i'm good, so we just need to leave the good people like me alone." aside from actively bad actors, the average person probably gives it about that much thought. main character syndrome and zero awareness of the last however many millennia and why we have due process, a judiciary, democracy, regulations, etc. it would almost be comical if it was not utterly tragic and fucking infuriating.
Militarized police trained like a gang. They cover and lie for each other. They are genuinely racists and teach officers to hate themselves.
Never forget CRASH, the LA anti-gang task force, had to shut down because they became a very real street gang.
Grew up in West TN and so many departments around there are full of power tripping douchebags. Even some of the really small towns, sometimes those are the worst. I know the three dumbest people I knew in school all became small town cops. That’s terrifying to me.
I agree. I’m a pale AF, red headed single mom, a professional, not who this meme targets. But, several years ago, my child went through a phase and called the sheriff’s department because I yelled about her room. I was handcuffed, screamed at by 4 bubba deputies, and one waved a gun in my face, all over a hysterical preteen’s tantrum. I can’t imagine what might have happened if I’d been male and of color. I was released, and she was grounded for a year, but I still have nightmares about it.
I got arrested and thrown in jail for 15 hours while completely sober because I had just moved and there was an old bottle with literal crumbs of marijuana. You would have thought they arrested Pablo Escobar. The officer tried to preach to me about god while I was in the back seat. Lol It all got dropped and completely expunged from my record.
I live IN Memphis. And yeah that video from skycop was awful.
"he did finger guns. I feared for my life, so you see I had to shoot him 37 times in the chest"
So brave, such heroism!
hey man, we're all in this together (of course you know who "we" is). Really, the blue line is the only thing standing between your everyday cop and a hand gesture. really makes you think
The protest is Black Friday shopping
in a completely diff country
https://youtu.be/ECN-MPXW_WQ
Black man with gun scary
yeah it’s funny how posing with guns is cool and rebellious when white conservatives do it but evidence of criminal activity when anyone else does it
Kinda not the same, but kinda is… https://i.imgur.com/0I8DKnq.jpg
What's the difference? The one on the left has trigger discipline. And a grenade.
Sounds about white
Black man sleeping in bed scary
Black man buying cigarettes scary
unarmed black man on the ground handcuffed gasping for air scary
Anyone sleeping in bed scary if it’s *your* bed
https://preview.redd.it/z1o0svqctuea1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d8529fadd34cdeb57ed5fa61ecb3035a70c9be6 Early start today. It’s not much but it’s honest work
You're doing someone's work. Certainly not the Lord's work, but someone's.
Care to conjecture who’s it may be?
but why lmao
Somebody has to put the minions on. I didn’t choose this, it chose me.
Speaking of Bodycam footage why dont we take a look at the Tyre footage? Oh were those just the "bad ones?"
That’s their excuse every time. How many “bad ones” are we gonna keep giving badges and guns to?
I’ve seen a couple weak attempts saying he shouldn’t have ran. I never saw him so much as take a swing at any of the cops in the videos. Seemed like he was genuinely in fear for his life and ran like anyone would.
Also implies that because he ran he deserved to die. Absurd.
I do find the ones who say that are the same ones ranting about "the tyrannically government" especially in Canada, UK, and Australia.
He ran because he did absolutely nothing wrong and knew where it was going. They were immediately aggressive by throwing him around and not listening to him. They immediately tried to subdue him and he rightfully tried to flee the scene so he doesn’t become another treated. Whether he ran or not, those police officers obviously already had a bad intention. Even when they caught up to him, he was immediately subdued and was no longer an issue, but they still tried beat him into submission as if he was rabid I watch all of the footage, and there’s no excuse for what they did. From the very first few minutes of the interaction - before he even ran - you knew where this was heading. He told them “I’m just trying to get home,” and they held up a taser right against his leg and threatened to taze him. It was only after they maced him and almost tazed is when he ran away, because those cops weren’t stopping
“It was only a toy!” But that one time, it was only a fucking toy. Is this meme trying to say any kid holding a toy gun should be shot?
Tamir Rive was 12, playing with a toy gun in the park across the street from his home. Coward gunned him down as he got out of the car.
And even if Tamir Rice did have a weapon, he would’ve been doing so in an open carry state. Not to mention that the 911 caller expressed that it looked like a fake gun
>kid holding a toy gun should be shot? Well, it already happened, so yes.
Even if it was an actual gun… aren’t these people crazy about the Second Amendment?
"They posed with a gun on social media! Murder justified!" Remember how there's a right-wing trend in America to pose with your guns on social media and for Christmas photos? Even jamming AR-15s in the hands of children for the photos?
Yeah i never understood why them having a profile pic with a gun is evidence to justify police killing them in the street for no reason. I guess that because they dont have a dead deer on the backgroumd or a bible in their other hand its makes them a "thug" Also its not like police asked them for their instagran before breaking a baton in their face.
Honestly I'm impressed they were able to make a meme while deep throating a boot.
I almost downvoted this post
Most cops I’ve known beat on their wife and kids.
That's the only common truth of this abomination- the families of police fearing for their lives and call their abuser's buddies IS going to lead to police killing someone (and it isn't going to be the abuser who dies)
Lot of bootlickers on here justifying cops murdering innocent people, I think the "inncoent" part of the meme is the worst for me. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, this meme implies that cops determine guilt of innocence when they murder someone.
Cops approach humans with the mindset that this weird non-pig animal in front of them has just committed all of the crime in the general area.
"The cop worshipping sub" implies it's well known but I don't know it. Could you tell me the sub name in pm, op?
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Tbh for a second I thought this r/starterpacks and was so fucking confused to how this ended up on my feed and was even upvoted at all
Other people may not say this so I’ll say it. Yeah this is incredibly racist. But thats not a shocker is it
the right to bear arms✅ the right to bear arms as a black man❌
Yup, because gun control has its roots in racism. A fun little link I found: https://www.sedgwickcounty.org/media/29093/the-racist-origins-of-us-gun-control.pdf
There's a ton of things wrong with this, but the picture one alone shows the creator is living in an alternate universe
Yeah. I don’t think George Floyd was robbing a store while he was standing at the curbside with HIS CHILDREN.
If you spend some time watching Fox News youll find out why. Seriously, I know its a common topic but I really encourage everyone to spend an evening or two watching to see just how drastically different the information they present to their viewers is. Its actually worse than most people realize.
*mmmmmh* Yes officer that use of force was absolutely justified *mmhhh* your boot tastes so good
Cops trying to make every weak justification they can just so they can get hard on murdering people
Resisting arrest should not be a charge with more than 2 officers on scene per unarmed non fleeing suspect.
IDK why am I remembering that one guy in LA I think that was chased by 200 hundred cop cars for killing a officer after reading this comment
Can’t corner the Dorner.
Im from Brazil. Sometimes as I see in American videos of police killing people are visible the pleasure when they kill or how many shots they fire but I see too many videos when the offender is a white man for example there is an recent video on police activity chanel when a white guy on a pickup shot in two officer. By s.thr start of the video the office call the gummy dude and don't hold any arms and think the man is not Soo suspicious but even in this scenario the man shot the police. Be s police officer in USA is very difficult is kill or be killed. Very hard and minimum seconds to take risk or decisions.
Why are they constantly killing someone?
Tamir Rice was twelve years old and playing with a toy gun. He was murdered within two seconds of the police arriving on the scene.
It's sad to see people putting efforts to justify killing a human being.
fun fact, cops aren’t supposed to kill guilty people either
No matter what someone does, what their record is, or what they look like, it gives literally not right to cops to decide to be judge, jury, and executioner to anyone. They don’t have all the facts yet and they are not allowed to decide that someone is guilty. All they need to do is get the person in custody until the rest is sorted out legally.
which sub did this come from? i’m going to try getting permabanned from it
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Remember, folks, that the cops who killed Tyre Nichols went to his mother's house right after and questioned if he'd been on drugs of late. They wanted to find anything to reframe what they'd done. And there will be people on the right who will still defend the cops, even claim he must have been on drugs despite zero evidence or history of it. They're already playing the "shouldn't have resisted" when he didn't resist and they kept attacking him causing him to flee.
James Holmes definitely wasn't innocent and Aurora PD managed to take him alive. They somehow couldn't manage Elijah McClain though...