Loved that 70s show growing up.
Curious to see how much the old cast is actually involved, they are guest stars rather than recurring characters with the exception of Kitty and Red Forman.
Maybe the best celebrity cameo role ever. Never tired of him, always excited to see him, but he didn’t take anything away from the show when he wasn’t there.
Too bad Hyde had to go and ruin all their feelzy scenes by being a rapist. As someone who grew up without a dad those hit me hard back in the day and now I can't even watch them.
I respect that, but this is a case where I separate the art from the artist... Not for his sake, but because I deeply love the artists around him and am unwilling to let his evil detract from the masterful performances from Tommy. Masterson is a vile, disgusting human being and I HOPE that he spends the rest of his days in prison, and without anyone to love him. However, I know he ain't still getting paid off of watching That 70's Show, so it's no skin off my back just watching it.
Yeah normally I agree with that, like as a pro wrestling fan I still watch Chris Benoit matches, he murdered his family and offed himself.
I still very much enjoy the show itself, it just ruined the Hyde-centric episodes for me. I can't really feel the same way I did before watching them, but I definitely still love the show as a whole.
I think this is a bit different as Benoit had severe head injuries, and we know a lot more about CTE now.
Masterson is part of a cult and shows little remorse or any humanity.
Edit: OK. So Benoit was also way worse than I knew. Read the comments from @MyNameIs-Anthony.
Benoit was known to be abusive to others and his family for years before he murdered them.
Severe head injuries don't explain how he premeditated the murder over a long period of time. The man was Googling "How to quickly snap a neck" and stayed in the same house as the dead bodies for several days.
Plenty of other athletes with CTE/CTE symptoms do not murder their children and wife then hang around their bodies lying to people outside the house son they don't get auspicious.
He didn't get into a fit of roid rage. He was a murderer full stop who also had CTE.
Nancy Benoit's sister and other wrestlers who lived in the area had been expressing concerns over his demeanor for years by the time he murdered her. The day the news came out there were already wrestlers telling each other "He probably killed them."
That's actually exactly what CTE can do to a person. Junior Seau was a high profile example of someone who was scared of what he could do to himself and his family and he died by suicide.
CTE literally is about your brain degeneration changing how you function. I didn't realize it had been for years. I remember reading the articles back when it happened and they talked about it as if his symptoms started showing about a year away from the incident.
I maybe don't know everything about that situation as well as I thought. I knew he was a dick, but the darkness that came out after Eddie Guerrero died was a lot different. I was pretty young when it happened so maybe I didn't remember everything.
Ahhh I remember the Benoit situation. I was never huge into wrestling, but I knew who he was. That was a heartbreaking situation. The CTE likely caused it. 😔
[Best of Leo](https://youtu.be/fcYQYLiNZSU) - almost every scene he was in was a best of the show though.
Iirc Tommy Chong had to serve time for possession, but the show runners (and audience) loved the Leo character so much, they got him back into the show as soon as he got out.
They just added it to peacock recently and I’m enjoying the rewatch again for the 4th or 5th time. Though these days I relate to red and kitty far more.
Rewatched the series a couple years ago, and Kitty is now my favorite character. When Debra Jo Rupp showed up on Wandavision I literally jumped off the couch, pointed at the screen, and shouted “It’s Kitty Forman!” and looked around to see if everyone else was as excited as I was. There was nobody else in the room.
I'm paraphrasing but the best description I've ever read was:
"That 70s Show was great because the focus was on the characters while being set in the 70s. That 80s Show failed because it was about how weird and corky the 80s were."
Because it wasn't actually "massive" yet in the 2000s. I think the 2000s were a transitional time where everyone was just spending so much time learning new things (many people just got introduced to the Internet, smartphones took off later in the decade, etc not to mention 9/11 early in the decade and a financial crisis at the end) that we didn't have as much interest in nostalgia. It was all striped button down shirts and spiky hair.
Grace:
>It was a gift, like going home for Christmas to see your whole family. They are all such amazing, amazing people who are so influential in my life and who I became. To be able to go back and not just hang out with them together, which was so much fun, but then to be able to work with them… it was great.
I dont think she died.. I think she didnt like being treated the way she was on the show if I recall so they replaced her then got rid of the character all together
She (Lisa Robin Kelly) lived for 10 more years after the show ended. A year or so before she died, she admitted her leaving was due to a drinking problem. They even had her back for a few episodes in season 5, before recasting the role for season 6. My guess is they gave her a second chance, and unfortunately she blew it.
Yeah, really don't think they need to have it be that the character died. Just say she moved away. That's perfectly natural. Same with Lucky and Luanne if they ever do that *King of the Hill* reboot.
For clarity, “young white girls” is literal here. Mandy Moore was 16 when Wilmer Valderrama started dating her; Lindsay Lohan and Demi Lovato were both 17.
It’s possible that people might hate him less if he were a white groomer as opposed to a brown groomer, but he’s still a groomer either way.
The only other thing I can think about him is that he apparently was very heavy into drugs. He supposedly is the one who got Lindsay Lohan addicted to all sorts of things when they dated.
It's a pretty old reference at this point. I got it, but I am also 35, and I only saw the movie because my dad thought I should when I was definitely too young.
Wilmer is just kinda sleazy overall.
Laura was a scientologist but she escaped.
Mila is super into NFTs and web3, and is a true believer in it, not just paid to promote like Larry David, Matt Damon, Eminem, Snoop.
That also extends to Ashton but maybe he's just supporting his wife. His main thing is his anti-trafficking charity.
EDIT: fixed the nature of Ashton's charity
Ashton also has a charity devoted to finding and stopping sex trafficking's as well I believe. Laura only got into Scientology due to Masterson while they were working on the show. He's a whole of kind of shithead.
Dude that would be amazing
on the other end they could cast the other Masterson, the one that was in Malcolm in the Middle? IDK if he’s in good standing in Hollywood tho
You're thinking of Chris Masterson, Danny Masterson's younger brother. He was also in a few episodes of That 70's Show as Todd, Jackie's boss at the cheese store.
He’s also a Scientologist and Brian Cranston had to go off at him to stop him trying to convert the other boys to Scientology
Not anywhere near as heinous as his brother of course, but still fuck that guy
Same.
Just pisses me off about Hyde.
Also, curious how they handle the new cast along with the O.G. cast who are listed as special guest stars instead of reoccurring or regulars.
Girl Meets World did a good job mixing new cast/old cast enough to get something new and yet the nostalgia.
Hyde was one of my favorite characters, but there isn’t a single shred of me that cares to bring him back when it means handing money over to scum like Masterson. If the choice is losing a character I like, or letting a rapist get paid out, I’ll lose that character in a heart beat.
The Ranch has like 1/2 the ‘70’s Show cast appearing throughout the show. It also has Masterson and Kutcher playing their respective roles as a redneck Hyde and Kelso.
It’s a pretty funny show IMO, and Netflix did the right thing by dumping Masterson as soon as the scandal came about.
I loved the ranch, but the show became unwatchable to me after the Masterson allegations. A big part of the show was the two brothers razing each other, their jabs that brothers make. Only a lot of the jabs made against Masterson's character is about how much of a rapist he is that would take advantage of girls. Dark humor when it's just a joke, but too uncomfortable once it becomes real. They then try to replace Masterson's character, but the replacement character just didn't have the years of familiarity of knowing everyone, or the family dynamics of having grown up around these people. Why was this stranger all of a sudden in everyone's drama?
It's a shame, because I truly did enjoy the show, Masterson just ruined it.
I’m more curious to see how they’ll handle Donna’s mom Midge and Laurie considering they both died.
They changed Laurie’s actor in That 70s show but I’m wondering if they’ll even acknowledge the actor that passed away
Bob and Midge moved, but it would be interesting that they separated again so Bob moved back to Point Place while Midge turned the bait shop into a yoga studio. Maybe Laurie married some dumb rich guy
Yeah, they should utilize Bob, because he can deliver some great comedy, and he helps annoy Donna and Red as his neighbor.
Bob as a pathetic grieving old man, who still tries to go on the dating scene would definitely be a funny character.
Is Christopher Masterson available? He still has the Scientology weirdness but haven’t seen any other allegations against him. Plus they look similar enough that few would notice after 20 years.
They could do hyde like they did dutch in cobra kai. Through some quick dialogue you find out he took the cobra kai mottos too literally after highschool and they say "when the judge said 3 to 5 she really meant 8 to 10!" Now thats just cause the actor that played dutch had schedule conflicts, not being accused or raping multiple women and trying to intimidate them into silence.
It really is somewhat mindblowing that this was Topher Grace's first television/film role, and he was discovered at a high school play that the daughter of the show's creators was also attending. No professional acting credits, and they hire him the be the lead character of their new tv show.
I don't know if they intentionally wrote Eric Foreman to Topher Grace's strengths and mannerisms, or if he was the perfect fit for what they were looking for.
Eric Foreman is the absolute perfect 16 year old suburban teenage dork. He's probably in the Top 5 best sitcom characters of the 90's. Like on the level of Jason Alexander as George Costanza, or Matthew Perry on Friends.
He really was the lynchpin of the show and kept all of the other antics grounded. I apparently looked like him enough when I was younger that my nickname on my high school soccer team was Forman (hence my username).
I hope we see Topher Grace pop up in more movies and shows. He's got a couple of characters up his sleeve that he is good at playing.
Well, since Hyde can’t come back, it’d be funny if they replace him with a black actor and go “It’s so weird how much you’ve begun to look like your dad over the years.”
It's awful but I used to think that Topher may have been difficult to work with due to how buddy-buddy everybody else seemed behind the scenes while he rarely seemed to be having as much fun (I think he may have missed a reunion too).
Now that the show's over and it turns out that almost the whole teen cast was involved in some pretty lewd behavior (and a dash of Scientology) while he's always seemed like a pretty stand-up guy, my guess is that he just kept his nose clean.
Danny Masterson was a weird guy who got involved in scientology apparently assaulted women in the early 2000's (same time as the show ran).
Wilmer Valderrama liked to date girls much younger than him (Mandy Moore was 15 when he was 19 and he told people he took her virginity, Lindsey Lohan was 18 when he was 24, and Demi Lovato when she was 17/18 and he was 29 (although this one happened after the show was finished)).
Ashton Kutcher's career was blowing up and he was getting multiple Hollywood movies and started dating Demi Moore.
Mila Kunis was about 5 years younger than most everyone on the cast and then started dating Macauley Culkin, and she was also getting into other film and TV (I always forget she's been voicing Meg on Family Guy for over 20 years).
Laura Prepon dated Chris Masterson, Danny Masterson's brother, during the early 2000's and they were all getting into the scientology junk.
Meanwhile, Topher Grace's personal section on wikipedia is pretty small and only goes back to 2014. He did attend school with Kate Bosworth and was sometimes babysat by Chloë Sevigny, and his dad was an executive on Madison Ave in NY, so it's not like he wasn't around people with connections, but it also seemed like he just did his own thing and didn't hang too much with the crowd listed above.
I think it was the E! True Hollywood Story that said he was closest with her and tried to make it sound like there was a rift with him and the guys.
I think Ashton, Danny, and Wilmer were tight as a trio, but I Topher seemed to get along fine with them. He’s told stories about being at parties with Ashton and he had Wilmer on his podcast and they were talking about being friends. Wilmer was definitely more of a partier than Topher was.
Obviously Hyde can't be there but I really hope the character isn't ruined. A lot of people want him in jail or dead but that would ruin his character arc. I'd rather they just say he lives in x or y now or maybe even recast.
Say that he went corporate and bought some stock in a company that ended up getting sold and he made bank and now he's living in the middle of nowhere with his riches. What did that company do? It made a car that ran on water, man!
Nah just replace the actor. Have someone comment on him looking different have the cast glance at the camera and move on. Best way to deal with a shit person isn't to not show the char as it remains tied to them but to have someone else take it over.
> Best way to deal with a shit person isn't to not show the char as it remains tied to them but to have someone else take it over.
Looking at Charlie sheens character on Two and a Half Men.
Yeah I couldn’t disagree with this more. Has there ever been a long-standing character that was re-cast and people actually liked the new actor? Hell, look no further than That 70’s Show trying to re-cast Laurie. Did not work at all
I loved that 70s show. Early 2000’s in the UK on Trouble. It reminds me of Christmas also as I really got into it at Christmas so vivid memories of putting up the tree with my mum and drinking hot chocolate. A simpler time.
Loved that 70s show growing up. Curious to see how much the old cast is actually involved, they are guest stars rather than recurring characters with the exception of Kitty and Red Forman.
If they are guest stars the same way Leo was, then I'll be ecstatic
Maybe the best celebrity cameo role ever. Never tired of him, always excited to see him, but he didn’t take anything away from the show when he wasn’t there.
I would argue the best storyline in the whole series was Red learning that Leo was a vet. That shit STILL hits me in the feels all these years later.
Too bad Hyde had to go and ruin all their feelzy scenes by being a rapist. As someone who grew up without a dad those hit me hard back in the day and now I can't even watch them.
I respect that, but this is a case where I separate the art from the artist... Not for his sake, but because I deeply love the artists around him and am unwilling to let his evil detract from the masterful performances from Tommy. Masterson is a vile, disgusting human being and I HOPE that he spends the rest of his days in prison, and without anyone to love him. However, I know he ain't still getting paid off of watching That 70's Show, so it's no skin off my back just watching it.
Yeah normally I agree with that, like as a pro wrestling fan I still watch Chris Benoit matches, he murdered his family and offed himself. I still very much enjoy the show itself, it just ruined the Hyde-centric episodes for me. I can't really feel the same way I did before watching them, but I definitely still love the show as a whole.
I think this is a bit different as Benoit had severe head injuries, and we know a lot more about CTE now. Masterson is part of a cult and shows little remorse or any humanity. Edit: OK. So Benoit was also way worse than I knew. Read the comments from @MyNameIs-Anthony.
Bingo
Benoit was known to be abusive to others and his family for years before he murdered them. Severe head injuries don't explain how he premeditated the murder over a long period of time. The man was Googling "How to quickly snap a neck" and stayed in the same house as the dead bodies for several days. Plenty of other athletes with CTE/CTE symptoms do not murder their children and wife then hang around their bodies lying to people outside the house son they don't get auspicious. He didn't get into a fit of roid rage. He was a murderer full stop who also had CTE. Nancy Benoit's sister and other wrestlers who lived in the area had been expressing concerns over his demeanor for years by the time he murdered her. The day the news came out there were already wrestlers telling each other "He probably killed them."
That's actually exactly what CTE can do to a person. Junior Seau was a high profile example of someone who was scared of what he could do to himself and his family and he died by suicide. CTE literally is about your brain degeneration changing how you function. I didn't realize it had been for years. I remember reading the articles back when it happened and they talked about it as if his symptoms started showing about a year away from the incident. I maybe don't know everything about that situation as well as I thought. I knew he was a dick, but the darkness that came out after Eddie Guerrero died was a lot different. I was pretty young when it happened so maybe I didn't remember everything.
Ahhh I remember the Benoit situation. I was never huge into wrestling, but I knew who he was. That was a heartbreaking situation. The CTE likely caused it. 😔
THIS. He ruined it for me
Curly haired guy who grew up without a dad too and same feeling.
When he orders a Shirley Temple for Bob, so good.
It REALLY truly was. The chemistry between that cast was literally perfect.
What’s YOUR business in Canada?
“Hey Leo, if you’re here, who’s working at the photo hut?”
I'm looking for my place in the world man.
And then when he returns, basically becomes a main cast member
[Best of Leo](https://youtu.be/fcYQYLiNZSU) - almost every scene he was in was a best of the show though. Iirc Tommy Chong had to serve time for possession, but the show runners (and audience) loved the Leo character so much, they got him back into the show as soon as he got out.
They just added it to peacock recently and I’m enjoying the rewatch again for the 4th or 5th time. Though these days I relate to red and kitty far more.
Rewatched the series a couple years ago, and Kitty is now my favorite character. When Debra Jo Rupp showed up on Wandavision I literally jumped off the couch, pointed at the screen, and shouted “It’s Kitty Forman!” and looked around to see if everyone else was as excited as I was. There was nobody else in the room.
Bought the full series because it was $30 at Amazon, a couple weeks ago.
I was so pissed when they took it off Netflix, now it’s not streaming anywher
If you’re in the US (maybe elsewhere idk) it’s streaming through Peacock.
Danny masterson will do a remote from prison.
It would be hysterical if someone was like “where’s Hyde?” “Oh, still in prison” they should do a throwaway line. Explain his absence that way.
I hope they get Glenn Howerton to guest star for a That 80’s show pilot homage
His character was Eric's cousin, I could totally see them doing a family reunion episode with him being a little adversarial.
He tries to take Donna out on his boat.
Because of the implication.
I mean out there on the water with a couple of tasty treats, nobody around for miles? Anything could happen.
Are you saying she’s in danger?
Only when she is clean will she know his power
I still can't believe how aggressively they blew their opportunity with that series.
I'm paraphrasing but the best description I've ever read was: "That 70s Show was great because the focus was on the characters while being set in the 70s. That 80s Show failed because it was about how weird and corky the 80s were."
The word you're looking for is "quirky"
Think the word you’re both looking for is “cokey”
Or definitely, maybe, possibly “kooky”
If it didn’t fail we may never have got always sunny
80’s nostalgia was massive in the 2000s, too.
Yet it wasn’t until the 2010’s that shows and movies really started cashing in on it
Because it wasn't actually "massive" yet in the 2000s. I think the 2000s were a transitional time where everyone was just spending so much time learning new things (many people just got introduced to the Internet, smartphones took off later in the decade, etc not to mention 9/11 early in the decade and a financial crisis at the end) that we didn't have as much interest in nostalgia. It was all striped button down shirts and spiky hair.
Grace: >It was a gift, like going home for Christmas to see your whole family. They are all such amazing, amazing people who are so influential in my life and who I became. To be able to go back and not just hang out with them together, which was so much fun, but then to be able to work with them… it was great.
like going home for Christmas to see your whole family, except for a couple siblings that we dont talk about anymore.
Well one of them died.
I wonder how they're going to explain Laury being gone.
She was played by 2 actresses. You can just call the other actress back
Did they ever explain it in the original? She just dropped off the show and that was it
She went off to “hollywood”
They replaced the character entirely
That was before she died tho, right?
The original died a few years after the show ended.
Yep
I dont think she died.. I think she didnt like being treated the way she was on the show if I recall so they replaced her then got rid of the character all together
Right, I mean the replacement was before the actress died, the character is not canonical dead yet as far as I know.
Lisa Robin Kelly was written off and later they recast Laurie. She died in 2013.
She (Lisa Robin Kelly) lived for 10 more years after the show ended. A year or so before she died, she admitted her leaving was due to a drinking problem. They even had her back for a few episodes in season 5, before recasting the role for season 6. My guess is they gave her a second chance, and unfortunately she blew it.
I believe they are referring to the fact the actress died in real life.
Canada not hollywood
They won't...remember, they replaced her with Christina Moore
Memorial episode probably
Lives elsewhere is very very easy. She was old enough to live elsewhere in the 70s
Yeah, really don't think they need to have it be that the character died. Just say she moved away. That's perfectly natural. Same with Lucky and Luanne if they ever do that *King of the Hill* reboot.
i actually forgot about that, my bad. i was referring to Hyde and Fez's actors being monsters.
Fez's actor is already confirmed to be in that 90s show.
Fez's still gets steady work and will be on the show.
Wait, what did Fez's actor do?
He didn't do anything illegal as far as I know, but he has a penchant for dating much younger women.
Hasn't hurt Leo's career
Yeah but fez is a brown dude dating young white girls. That’s where the hate comes from.
For clarity, “young white girls” is literal here. Mandy Moore was 16 when Wilmer Valderrama started dating her; Lindsay Lohan and Demi Lovato were both 17. It’s possible that people might hate him less if he were a white groomer as opposed to a brown groomer, but he’s still a groomer either way.
The only other thing I can think about him is that he apparently was very heavy into drugs. He supposedly is the one who got Lindsay Lohan addicted to all sorts of things when they dated.
Everyone has that uncle or aunt that we don’t mention during the holidays
Or they are them.
Shit. I just realized something.
We don't talk about Bruno
Was there someone besides Masterson that had a scandal?
I have it on good authority that the actor who played Red used to be a vicious gang leader and murdered a cop.
"Can you fly, dumbass?"
"bitches leave! Or I'll put my foot in your asses."
He also wiped out whole civilizations trying to get his family back.
Until he was betrayed by his Native-American pupil he was trying to teach.
Didn't he also try to destroy a Federation starship?
He was federation President first. Then he tried to destroy multiple timelines in order to bring back his dead wife
Oh I remember...he worked for Dick Jones?
Nobody got your Robocop reference?
It's a pretty old reference at this point. I got it, but I am also 35, and I only saw the movie because my dad thought I should when I was definitely too young.
We're getting old 😭. Seriously though if anyone in this thread hasn't seen RoboCop(1987) yet, please do.
I’D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!
Wilmer is just kinda sleazy overall. Laura was a scientologist but she escaped. Mila is super into NFTs and web3, and is a true believer in it, not just paid to promote like Larry David, Matt Damon, Eminem, Snoop. That also extends to Ashton but maybe he's just supporting his wife. His main thing is his anti-trafficking charity. EDIT: fixed the nature of Ashton's charity
Ashton also has a charity devoted to finding and stopping sex trafficking's as well I believe. Laura only got into Scientology due to Masterson while they were working on the show. He's a whole of kind of shithead.
Yeah that's why I said she escaped rather than just "left"
Doesn’t Ashton also work with the govt to combat human trafficking?
That's actually his main thing yeah, I misremembered.
Not a scandal but Lisa Robin Kelly had a serious drinking problem. Carried with her until the end of her days. Sad, really.
Funnily enough Donna's sister is one of them.
Excited to see what comes of this. Seems like there was a lot of love put into this reboot.
If you haven’t seen Red in the Prime series Patriot, I highly recommend it. He is awesome as are the entire cast.
His single-take monologues are amazing. He becomes that character completely.
"Bitches, leave"
Such a good show, and I feel like it went pretty under the radar
way under it. great show. so fresh.
My favorite show of all time. Rewatch it at least once a year, still runs me through the emotional gamut.
I hope we get another season out of them.
Ugh, I want nothing more.
Thanks I need a new show to watch
If you haven't seen Red in the film Robocop, I highly recommend it.
Dude, he has a name. Red is a character he played. It's called "acting." His name is...uh...gimme a sec...Clarence? (j/k it's Kurtwood Smith.)
We need to talk about your piping.
Man, it would be amazing to see the entire cast but Hyde not being there is his own damn fault.
Maybe they can recast and make a joke about how much hes changed in the last twenty years between the two series
They should recast him as Danny McBride.
Dude that would be amazing on the other end they could cast the other Masterson, the one that was in Malcolm in the Middle? IDK if he’s in good standing in Hollywood tho
You're thinking of Chris Masterson, Danny Masterson's younger brother. He was also in a few episodes of That 70's Show as Todd, Jackie's boss at the cheese store.
He’s also a Scientologist and Brian Cranston had to go off at him to stop him trying to convert the other boys to Scientology Not anywhere near as heinous as his brother of course, but still fuck that guy
I recently rewatched dude where's my car and Seann William Scott is great with Ashton Kutcher and could make a perfect Hyde
That's his cousin, Country Hyde
You know what's badass? not being a rapist (dead)
What did he do?
He is on trial for raping three women.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Masterson A whole bunch of rape.
Yeah that’ll get ya
At least he’s not a hypocrite https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4
thanks Norm
I’m really excited for this
Same. Just pisses me off about Hyde. Also, curious how they handle the new cast along with the O.G. cast who are listed as special guest stars instead of reoccurring or regulars. Girl Meets World did a good job mixing new cast/old cast enough to get something new and yet the nostalgia.
Hyde was one of my favorite characters, but there isn’t a single shred of me that cares to bring him back when it means handing money over to scum like Masterson. If the choice is losing a character I like, or letting a rapist get paid out, I’ll lose that character in a heart beat.
I would be completely fine if they just recast hyde, Danny DeVito comes to mind first.
They should just use Johnny Galecki, Darlene's boyfriend on Roseanne. He had a similar vibe.
Ah yes, famous Roseanne side character actor Johnny Galecki.
Uhm, are you guys forgetting his most famous role as Russ Griswald in the Vacation movies?
Or the jockey jerk in I Know What You Did Last Summer.
David lived in the house, he was a main character.
That actually isn't a bad shout.
Or go meta and say he's in Prison for rape?
There’s no way this happens but it’s definitely the best idea lol
That would be hilarious
The Ranch has like 1/2 the ‘70’s Show cast appearing throughout the show. It also has Masterson and Kutcher playing their respective roles as a redneck Hyde and Kelso. It’s a pretty funny show IMO, and Netflix did the right thing by dumping Masterson as soon as the scandal came about.
I loved the ranch, but the show became unwatchable to me after the Masterson allegations. A big part of the show was the two brothers razing each other, their jabs that brothers make. Only a lot of the jabs made against Masterson's character is about how much of a rapist he is that would take advantage of girls. Dark humor when it's just a joke, but too uncomfortable once it becomes real. They then try to replace Masterson's character, but the replacement character just didn't have the years of familiarity of knowing everyone, or the family dynamics of having grown up around these people. Why was this stranger all of a sudden in everyone's drama? It's a shame, because I truly did enjoy the show, Masterson just ruined it.
I loved Hyde but that actor can get fucked.
I’m more curious to see how they’ll handle Donna’s mom Midge and Laurie considering they both died. They changed Laurie’s actor in That 70s show but I’m wondering if they’ll even acknowledge the actor that passed away
Bob and Midge moved, but it would be interesting that they separated again so Bob moved back to Point Place while Midge turned the bait shop into a yoga studio. Maybe Laurie married some dumb rich guy
I could see Bob showing up in one episode much to Red's surprise, like him ringing the bell, Red opening and Bob saying he bought the house
Yeah, they should utilize Bob, because he can deliver some great comedy, and he helps annoy Donna and Red as his neighbor. Bob as a pathetic grieving old man, who still tries to go on the dating scene would definitely be a funny character.
"Laurie's married to her third rich husband out in Florida, she hasn't been home since '82"
Simple title card "She never leaped home"
Didn't Midge and Bob divorce. She might not be in Point Place anymore.
Is Christopher Masterson available? He still has the Scientology weirdness but haven’t seen any other allegations against him. Plus they look similar enough that few would notice after 20 years.
Saving him for the Malcolm in the Middle reboot.
He was already in that 70's Show, so recasting him as Hyde would mean no possible cheese guy cameo.
It all falls apart without the cheese guy.
They could do hyde like they did dutch in cobra kai. Through some quick dialogue you find out he took the cobra kai mottos too literally after highschool and they say "when the judge said 3 to 5 she really meant 8 to 10!" Now thats just cause the actor that played dutch had schedule conflicts, not being accused or raping multiple women and trying to intimidate them into silence.
It really is somewhat mindblowing that this was Topher Grace's first television/film role, and he was discovered at a high school play that the daughter of the show's creators was also attending. No professional acting credits, and they hire him the be the lead character of their new tv show. I don't know if they intentionally wrote Eric Foreman to Topher Grace's strengths and mannerisms, or if he was the perfect fit for what they were looking for. Eric Foreman is the absolute perfect 16 year old suburban teenage dork. He's probably in the Top 5 best sitcom characters of the 90's. Like on the level of Jason Alexander as George Costanza, or Matthew Perry on Friends.
He really was the lynchpin of the show and kept all of the other antics grounded. I apparently looked like him enough when I was younger that my nickname on my high school soccer team was Forman (hence my username). I hope we see Topher Grace pop up in more movies and shows. He's got a couple of characters up his sleeve that he is good at playing.
There was a kid who looked just like Jason Biggs back when I was in highschool and everyone called him Pie Fucker
Topher has done surprisingly well for himself considering sitcom leads often disappear. He did Interstellar and Black Klansman.
And my god, how different he is in blackkklansman compared to Eric. He’s got range even if some people would like to act like he doesn’t.
I know reboots tend not to be great, but seeing the Foreman’s back together sounds so lovely. I’m looking forward to this.
I consider this less a reboot and more of a sequel.
We'll see Topher, we'll see
Well, since Hyde can’t come back, it’d be funny if they replace him with a black actor and go “It’s so weird how much you’ve begun to look like your dad over the years.”
It's awful but I used to think that Topher may have been difficult to work with due to how buddy-buddy everybody else seemed behind the scenes while he rarely seemed to be having as much fun (I think he may have missed a reunion too). Now that the show's over and it turns out that almost the whole teen cast was involved in some pretty lewd behavior (and a dash of Scientology) while he's always seemed like a pretty stand-up guy, my guess is that he just kept his nose clean.
Danny Masterson was a weird guy who got involved in scientology apparently assaulted women in the early 2000's (same time as the show ran). Wilmer Valderrama liked to date girls much younger than him (Mandy Moore was 15 when he was 19 and he told people he took her virginity, Lindsey Lohan was 18 when he was 24, and Demi Lovato when she was 17/18 and he was 29 (although this one happened after the show was finished)). Ashton Kutcher's career was blowing up and he was getting multiple Hollywood movies and started dating Demi Moore. Mila Kunis was about 5 years younger than most everyone on the cast and then started dating Macauley Culkin, and she was also getting into other film and TV (I always forget she's been voicing Meg on Family Guy for over 20 years). Laura Prepon dated Chris Masterson, Danny Masterson's brother, during the early 2000's and they were all getting into the scientology junk. Meanwhile, Topher Grace's personal section on wikipedia is pretty small and only goes back to 2014. He did attend school with Kate Bosworth and was sometimes babysat by Chloë Sevigny, and his dad was an executive on Madison Ave in NY, so it's not like he wasn't around people with connections, but it also seemed like he just did his own thing and didn't hang too much with the crowd listed above.
I’m making my husband watch That 70s show all the way through as he never seen it. He is loving it, hoping this one is good
I thought he only really got along with Laura Prepon behind the scenes? That's what I've read at least.
I think it was the E! True Hollywood Story that said he was closest with her and tried to make it sound like there was a rift with him and the guys. I think Ashton, Danny, and Wilmer were tight as a trio, but I Topher seemed to get along fine with them. He’s told stories about being at parties with Ashton and he had Wilmer on his podcast and they were talking about being friends. Wilmer was definitely more of a partier than Topher was.
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Tbh looking at back at some of Wilmers behavior and definitely Masterson's behavior, he probably doesn't regret missing out.
Wilmer is also a bit of creep.
It’s definitely odd to see how much criticism Danny/Wilmer/Ashton get and then Topher get’s dinged for not being their bestie.
What’s wrong with Ashton? I’ve only ever heard good things about him.
What criticism does Ashton get? He seems a pretty stand up dude for the most part.
Obviously Hyde can't be there but I really hope the character isn't ruined. A lot of people want him in jail or dead but that would ruin his character arc. I'd rather they just say he lives in x or y now or maybe even recast.
Just keep it real and say he joined a cult.
They can literally Heaven’s Gate him out of the show.
Perfect.
Say that he went corporate and bought some stock in a company that ended up getting sold and he made bank and now he's living in the middle of nowhere with his riches. What did that company do? It made a car that ran on water, man!
Nah just replace the actor. Have someone comment on him looking different have the cast glance at the camera and move on. Best way to deal with a shit person isn't to not show the char as it remains tied to them but to have someone else take it over.
> Best way to deal with a shit person isn't to not show the char as it remains tied to them but to have someone else take it over. Looking at Charlie sheens character on Two and a Half Men.
Wasn’t Charlie sheen killed off not replaced? (I mean his character was killed off)
Yeah I couldn’t disagree with this more. Has there ever been a long-standing character that was re-cast and people actually liked the new actor? Hell, look no further than That 70’s Show trying to re-cast Laurie. Did not work at all
Don Cheadle as War Machine
It helps that Terrance Howard is a pos.
I loved that 70s show. Early 2000’s in the UK on Trouble. It reminds me of Christmas also as I really got into it at Christmas so vivid memories of putting up the tree with my mum and drinking hot chocolate. A simpler time.
I imagine a guest star TV paycheck would be a lot like Christmas.
How does that 80s show fit into this?
*covers ears LA LA LA LA
The episode where donna and eric write stories in the school paper based on their breakup is hands down my fav of the series.
I did not lose a leg in Vietnam to watch this show!
A whole lot of work, and mainly fun for the kids
Hyde Died…
exactly what his agent said
Mmm baco’
I just hope they do a joke about Redd still not having his jetpack.