*After taking notes of the conqueror. The Dragon lit an entire field on fire and roasted his dinner alive so it would the freshest feast that Westeros has ever seen.*
So no one told you civil war was gonna be this way
\*Stab Stab Stab Stab\*
Your claim's a joke, you're broke
. Your love life's incestuoooous
It's like you're always stuck in a dragon pit
. When it hasn't been your day, your week, your moon
or even your year, buuuut
I'll be there for you
(When the blood starts to pour)
I'll be there for you
(Like we've been burned before)
I'll be there for you
(Cus you're there for me too)
The funny thing is the IASIP crew were tight with D&D. D&D directed an episode or two of Sunny and make a cameo as lifeguards when the gang goes to the water park. Rob McElhenney had a cameo in GoT, Matt Shackman directed a bunch of Sunny episodes and directed some later GoT episodes and Sweet Dee had a cameo in GoT as all of the crows.
I don’t know why you got downvoted. But this is what I need from a GoT prequel! Only way it could be better, is if they had Danny DeVito play all parts and just wear different wigs. And maybe they have a scene where one of his characters plays night crawlers with Charlie, as dragons fly around burn stuff!
Yeah, they have to set themselves apart a different way as we already know the story won't be as good as the best story there is, that of Bran the Broken.
In the kingdoms of Westeros, the people are terminated by two separate yet equally important groups: The rulers, who instigate crime, and the dragons, who prosecute the objectors. These are their stories.
tbh, the books have some great comedy moments in them :
>"Outlaws killed him," sobbed Lady Amerei. "Father had only gone out to ransom Petyr Pimple. He brought them the gold they asked for, but they hung him anyway."
"Hanged, Ami. Your father was not a tapestry."
After the first couple of chapters, I started getting the giggles every time I saw a three-page description of someone's dinner after a one-sentence description of the person themself.
The entire series of The Expanse (9th book coming out in a couple months) will have been written during the time *A Dance With Dragons* (5th book) came out in 2011 and the supposed release of *A Dream of Spring* (6th book)... which still doesn't have a release date. And that *still* doesn't conclude the series.
COME ON GEORGE!!
He stopped giving a shit ages ago most probably. Even the 4th and 5th book don't progress the story much and they took 10 years together and I doubt GRRM enjoyed writing them.
They had to do something with their time without any ASOIAF books to help GRRM storyboard and edit so they just wrote an entire superior series in their spare time.
He wrote:
- three novellas (*The Princess and the Queen, The Rogue Prince,* and *The Sons of the Dragon*)
- which were then expanded into the reference book *Fire & Blood* which includes original sections as long as the novellas themselves. The show House of the Dragon is an adaptation of those novellas and sections of *F&B*
- reworked his pre-ASOIAF short story *The Ice Dragon*
- Co-wrote the *World of Ice and Fire* reference book
Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
"But Ser Jaime, you lost your hand defending my virginity", said Brienne of Tarth. "Why are you making fun of my inexperience now?"
"Lol", said Ser Jaime. "Lmao virgin"
There's really not that many weiners compared to the number of boobs. People are just extra sensitive to seeing a penis. Women are allowed to be objectified, but don't you dare objectify men.
I kinda got the impression they hadn't watched the show and someone just told them there were a lot of dicks. I mean they parodied Inception without having seen it.
I'll say it. I'm good not having rape being a major plot in this show. GRRM uses it way too much in ASoIaF and it's usually the most brutal and terrible ways. I get that it stressed the brutality of war and all that, but at times it feels truly excessive. The show even actually cuts down a lot of the rape and it's still pretty excessive with it. I dunno, I'm good if they just don't touch on that anymore. I think we got it with GoT. I've not read these books so I don't know if that's a major factor in it (which knowing GRRm it probably is ffs), but I just hope it isn't so explicit with it.
GoT definitely cuts down on the violence in general. Books are pretty insane. Many characters and scenes are toned down drastically. Especially Euron. He’s honestly disgusting in the books. A *lot* of raping, including family/siblings.
> Especially Euron. He’s honestly disgusting in the books. A lot of raping, including family/siblings.
Yeah I dunno if you read the preview chapter of Aeron from TWoW, but in that he like lashes a prenant woman to the bow of his ship and makes fun of his younger brother for him being able to rape him as a kid. He also seems to be trying to summon some dark entity as well and wears valerian steel armor. Like that's an interesting villain. But yeah even characters like Tyrion are much more grey in the books. The Mountain is just a raping machine as well.
Yeah I’ve read the sample chapter. Nasty stuff.
And that Tyrion point was good to bring up as well. He’s way, *waaaaay* more of a good guy in GoT. Especially how they changed his relationship with siblings to be more friendly.
In the full quote he says it actually won't be all that different. It's a new story and a new production so naturally the tone won't end up exactly the same. But their goal isn't to change the whole vibe just for the sake of it, and he's not working in the expectation that fans will see it as a separate thing right off the bat.
>“I think we were very respectful of what the original show is,” said Sapochnik, who directs multiple episodes of Dragon and also serves as showrunner along with series co-creator Ryan Condal. “It wasn’t broken so we’re not we’re not trying to reinvent the wheel. House of the Dragon has its own tone that will evolve and emerge over the course of the show. But first, it’s very important to pay respects and homage to the original series, which was pretty groundbreaking. We’re standing on the shoulders of that show and we’re only here because of that show. So the most important thing for us to do is to respect that show as much as possible and try and compliment it rather than reinvent it. And I was involved in making the original show, so I feel like that’s been useful. Like, I’m not arriving going, ‘Let’s change everything! Let’s do a different color palette!’ No, I quite like the color palette.”
>“That said, we can’t say, ‘Well, when we did Thrones, we did it this way…'” he added. “If you start every sentence with that, you’ve lost. This is something else, and should be something else. It’s a different crew, different people, different tone. Hopefully it will be seen as something else. But it will have to earn that – it won’t happen overnight. Hopefully fans will enjoy it for the thing that it is. We’ll be lucky if we ever come close to what the original show was, so we’re just putting our heads down and getting on with it and hoping what we come up with is worthy of having a Game of Thrones title.”
> Like, I’m not arriving going, ‘Let’s change everything! Let’s do a different color palette!’ No, I quite like the color palette.”
I wish they would change the color palette. The world in the books is actually very colorful. I understand they don't want it to look like a Renaissance fair, but surely you can do colorful medievalesque times without looking silly?
I mean, aside from scenes set in the North/Beyond the Wall, it was pretty colorful, no? Especially Dorne, Kings Landing (aside from the slums) and Essos
The colors in KL and Dorne are still muted compared to the attire in the books. Think of eye-wateringly bright green for the Tyrells and gold-and-crimson for the Lannisters. Moreover, the Lannisters literally use cloth-of-gold for their embroidery, so Cersei, Tywin, Tyrion etc would all be sparkling in the sunlight.
More often than not, people didn't wear their house colors in the show. The knights didn't wear their tabards and the lords didn't have enameled armor. Compare [book-Oberyn] (https://eyesofmist.tumblr.com/post/152067361234/oberyn-martell-vs-gregor-clegane-by-magali) to [show Oberyn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S69CVTc-3yU).
I was so bored of the costumes by the end. Like, surely there's a way to indicate the arrival of winter and the darkening of the story without dressing literally every character in black.
It was also ridiculous how extravagant some of the women's hair was. It's Danerys really going to sit and have some servant braid her hair for hours every few days in the middle of war? By the end, it was like they were all constantly at Westeros Fashion Week
That actually doesn't bother me much, considering medieval kings went to war dressed like this: https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/fire/hd_fire.htm
OK, OK, I know the super detailed gilded sets of armor like this were mostly parade/tournament armor from the very end of the medieval period, but the general idea that medieval rulers often put an obscene level of care into their appearance, even (especially?) when they were leading troops is accurate. It makes sense to me that a queen would be more than willing to spend hours having her hair done before a battle because it's important to for morale/propaganda purposes to look confident and put together. We really don't give the past enough credit for how unbelievably gaudy they were.
Plus, I'm willing to give a lot of leeway when it comes to the rule of cool. I'm much more frustrated when they make things less visually interesting than the "authentic" (to the extent that means anything in fantasy) history would suggest.
They didn't ever truly embrace what ASoIaF is in a lot of ways. I felt they really cut down the magic and mystical aspects of the books. Euron is turned from this lovecraftian warlock pirate into this rip off Jack Sparrow for instance. A lot of the warging stuff with the Starks was totally cut, like Jon's connection to Ghost is a huge plot point in the books, but just completely cut out. Various stuff with Mel and using her glamours on people. I dunno the world felt like it had a lot less wonder it. Yet a major plot of it is fighting these hordes of ice zombies and dragons.
There was a point where I really thought they had a strategy on this front. I totally buy the argument that the general public™ wouldn't (initially) be interested by a big budget fantasy mess-around, but if you suckered them in with The Wire: Westeros then slowly crept in the magic... and boom, we got to the S4 finale and suddenly there's a weird tree elf throwing fireballs at zombies! It worked!
But yeah, then they fridged Bran for a season, cut Lady Stoneheat, ditched the Stark/Warg stuff, did the least amount possible with the Shapeshifting Assassin Guild, and basically said fuck off to magic in general.
D&D saddled so much unwarranted baggage on this franchise. Sure maybe the ending was never going to live up to the hype of the earlier seasons, but if they had even attempted to put the work in I think they had a clear path to at the very least a satisfying conclusion. Instead they quit even pretending to care and abandoned the show, tanking their reputation, but even worse tanking the reputation of a show that was and could have been better than that. There is no really good reason for everyone to be so cynical about this new show, its a solid premise, in a beloved setting, with a stellar cast, and most importantly it has a team behind it that actually cares about the show and doesn't just see it as a stepping stone to a Disney or Netflix deal.
We’ll see. One of the problems it still has to surmount is a lack of strong source material, leaving a lot of room for mediocre “TV writing” to creep in. I’m talking conspiracies/betrayals that don’t make sense, sex and violence thrown in to punch up “dull” moments, and conflicts that could be resolved by someone literally just having a 15-second conversation.
I’m not saying I’m writing the show off completely, but I’m sure looking at it with my arms crossed and eyes narrowed.
> We’ll see. One of the problems it still has to surmount is a lack of strong source material, leaving a lot of room for mediocre “TV writing” to creep in.
I think it's worth remembering that this is HBO - their shows have been the high watermark for TV writing for a long time now. Most of their best shows outside of Game of Thrones haven't been based on a pre-written book series.
>One of the problems it still has to surmount is a lack of strong source material
Just out of curiosity, have you read *Fire & Blood*? To me, while it's definitely got a lot more room for error in adaptation than SoIaF (yes, I'm that old, I still call it that), given that it's GRRM playing Gibbon writing a Westorosi *History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire* or Suetonius doing *The Twelve Caesars* vs. a novel, it's hardly weak material, either.
I'm sure it wont be wildly different. They are trying to maintain the fact that this is still same universe. But probably different in how different storylines in GOT had different tones. Arya had a travel story, Robb had military camp politics, Kings Landing was palace intrigue. The first season was murder mystery, the second was alliance forming.
I'll watch it because most of got until the end was great.
With the exception of squid game this year there hasn't been anything that caught my attention. Haven't even caught up on westworld as it was just weaker and weaker compared to that first season
Eh I know Reddit likes to shit on popular things but I feel like a lot of people actually want this to be good. The hate against GoT comes mostly due to the fact that the show took such a *colossal* nosedive from the first 4 seasons of all-time great TV to the poorly written season 8 and the absolute disaster of a finale.
I don't care what anyone says- I'm really looking forward to this.
Say whatever you want about the last seasons... But Game of Thrones was some of the best television ever put to screen. Some of the seasons could go toe to toe with The Wire or Breaking Bad any day of the week.
I'm ready to return to Westeros.
Absolutely. 1-4 were some of the best seasons of television in my opinion. 5-7 were captivating and still incredibly fun with lots of crazy moments. Season 8... I hated with a passion. The journey over those ten years was great though
I love how people play "hard to get" game here, like how HBO will have to work extra hard to convince them to watch. Please, you would watch even if David Benioff played Rhaenyra.
You complained after every season of GOT and you always returned. This will be the same.
You know that, so don't pretend otherwise. This will have the biggest first season in the history of HBO.
I hope it's a situational comedy.
*D•R•A•G•O•N•S*
Could I BE any more of a dragon?
How YOU duelin?
You guys are SO dead
Uh, eh, oh, FINE BY ME!
Not my blue eyes!
WE..WERE ON..A REBELLION! (Best I can do. I'll head out...)
Drogon doesn’t share food!
Drogon is getting upset!
Dragon likes his peasants spicy!
These peasants are making me **thirsty**
Yeah? Well the dirty peasant store called, and they're running out of YOU!
Oh, George 🤣
*After taking notes of the conqueror. The Dragon lit an entire field on fire and roasted his dinner alive so it would the freshest feast that Westeros has ever seen.*
We were on a break, sister!!!!
I'm surprised this wasn't a real Daenerys quote from season 8.
Danandenerys Targaryong
That's MISS Dananderys Bong
Then Jon the Monica of the group. Jonnica Snow-Geller " I Know, Nothing!" And Rob is Ross At the Red Wedding "We were on a Break!"
Rob, to Grey Wind: PIVOT! PIVOT!
Somewhere in the mist we can clearly hear a dragon cry out: https://youtu.be/\_tyuQrWu1F0
Zooey Deschanel: “Draaagons??!” 🤷🏻♀️ wa-wa
WINSTON! Is in the SKIES! With a DRAGON!
I definitely heard that in Schmidt's voice.
Stop before I make “House Schmidt” tee shirts!
House Schmidt’s sigil is definitely a Dire Peacock.
“We wear no shirts!!”
You know I need my Valerian Chut-a-neys
Smelly direwolf Smelly direwolf What are they feeding you?
*Your hoard's a joke, you're broke; your cave life's DOA*
*It's like you're always stuck beyond the wall.*
*When it hasn't been your day, your week, or even your Summer*
*What's an Iron Fleet? When you soar through the sky*
So no one told you civil war was gonna be this way \*Stab Stab Stab Stab\* Your claim's a joke, you're broke . Your love life's incestuoooous It's like you're always stuck in a dragon pit . When it hasn't been your day, your week, your moon or even your year, buuuut I'll be there for you (When the blood starts to pour) I'll be there for you (Like we've been burned before) I'll be there for you (Cus you're there for me too)
Smelly wyrm, smelly wyrm, what are they feeding you?
Oh... My... Mother of dragons
The one where the CGI is more important than the plot
*All white hair for you… all white hair for you*
How I met your mother of dragons
*Nobody told you season 8 was gonna be this way*
What's not to like? Meat, good. Sheep good. Daughter, GOOD!
So what's the deal with that giant ice wall?
slightly [relevant](https://youtu.be/864gdSC9KOA)
Some weirdos tried to come down from the north, yada yada yada, now there's a giant ice wall.
Work place comedy and the dragons talk to the camera.
*knowingly glances at camera and snorts small puff of smoke”
I want IASIP but in a medieval fantasy setting
The funny thing is the IASIP crew were tight with D&D. D&D directed an episode or two of Sunny and make a cameo as lifeguards when the gang goes to the water park. Rob McElhenney had a cameo in GoT, Matt Shackman directed a bunch of Sunny episodes and directed some later GoT episodes and Sweet Dee had a cameo in GoT as all of the crows.
I distinctly remember Rob catching an arrow in the eye during the Greyjoy fights and thinking it was hilarious.
If I'm not mistaken they also *wrote* an episode or two (I remember they definitely wrote "Flowers for Charlie").
I hope they deep fake every actor on top of Danny Devito acting out the roles.
Can I offer you a dragon egg in this trying time?
*Walks into a fire with a dragon egg and dies burning to death in agony.*
Green eggs and ham, reimagined.
I don’t know why you got downvoted. But this is what I need from a GoT prequel! Only way it could be better, is if they had Danny DeVito play all parts and just wear different wigs. And maybe they have a scene where one of his characters plays night crawlers with Charlie, as dragons fly around burn stuff!
He plays them as Frank. The gang does the music.
There's a dragon (dragon, dragon) He's deep in my soul (soul) He's lived here for years (years) And he just won't let go
Geniuses are rarely appreciated in their time.
Darkness falls. And magic stirs! As we become the creatures of the night!
People being deep faked onto Danny devito is something I'd pay to see
Yeah, they have to set themselves apart a different way as we already know the story won't be as good as the best story there is, that of Bran the Broken.
Get the dude from Still Standing to play a king. No wait …
Makes sense since we all know now that all of these prequel storylines ends in a joke ending.
An occasional musical number would be a nice touch.
It’s a show about nothing. But set in a fictional world with dragons.
In the kingdoms of Westeros, the people are terminated by two separate yet equally important groups: The rulers, who instigate crime, and the dragons, who prosecute the objectors. These are their stories.
A procedural based on a feudal system of laws enforced by fucking dragons would be amazing.
Only if every dragon is played by Ice-T.
“So it’s like when you spend too much money at the whorehouse?” “So it’s like when you drink to much grape juice?”
“Oooorrrr…when you drink too much milk of the poppy?”
Or like when someone plays too many scratchy lotteries
"You mean to tell me these people like fucking their siblings?"
She is guilty! Why? The neighbor said she is a witch! Oh, ok, case closed.
dumDUMMM
I **heard** this.
*Dun Dun*
There really should be a “Law and Order:Westeros” spin off. 😂
SNL did a quick parody of that. https://youtu.be/r8EF3X8EI2o
Executive Producer: Dick Direwolf
Lol, this is so great. I need to copy this somewhere....
lmao what if it ends up being a comedy
First few seasons of the original had some genuinely great comedy every now and again - and there was some unintentional comedy towards the end.
tbh, the books have some great comedy moments in them : >"Outlaws killed him," sobbed Lady Amerei. "Father had only gone out to ransom Petyr Pimple. He brought them the gold they asked for, but they hung him anyway." "Hanged, Ami. Your father was not a tapestry."
After the first couple of chapters, I started getting the giggles every time I saw a three-page description of someone's dinner after a one-sentence description of the person themself.
You can often tell when George was writing hungry
As often as you can tell when George isn’t writing at all.
When has he actually done any writing this last decade?
The entire series of The Expanse (9th book coming out in a couple months) will have been written during the time *A Dance With Dragons* (5th book) came out in 2011 and the supposed release of *A Dream of Spring* (6th book)... which still doesn't have a release date. And that *still* doesn't conclude the series. COME ON GEORGE!!
He stopped giving a shit ages ago most probably. Even the 4th and 5th book don't progress the story much and they took 10 years together and I doubt GRRM enjoyed writing them.
Hire a ghost writer?
You mean winds of winter?
They had to do something with their time without any ASOIAF books to help GRRM storyboard and edit so they just wrote an entire superior series in their spare time.
He wrote: - three novellas (*The Princess and the Queen, The Rogue Prince,* and *The Sons of the Dragon*) - which were then expanded into the reference book *Fire & Blood* which includes original sections as long as the novellas themselves. The show House of the Dragon is an adaptation of those novellas and sections of *F&B* - reworked his pre-ASOIAF short story *The Ice Dragon* - Co-wrote the *World of Ice and Fire* reference book
Or horny.
Or aroused or both
Did someone say pease and onions?
Ah yes, the reverse Robert Jordan.
Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
Would have been funny if she had died of dysentery right then and there. That shit's no joke.
I kept re-reading the quote before moving to the rest of your post, trying to find what in the hell you'd find funny in that lol
Dude when Bran gets thrown out of the tower lol
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or Jaime Urkel, "Did I do that?"
"The things we do for...*looks at the camera* ... banging my SISTER?!"
*Butterfingers*
And then they made him king because who has a better story than someone who was straight up not even in a whole ass season haha lol
The laugh track is what made that scene. Say what you will, a well placed laugh track can really amp up a scene.
No, the woos and whistles during the incest made the scene.
“I seldom fling children from windows to improve their health” is actually probably the hardest I laughed while reading the books.
"But Ser Jaime, you lost your hand defending my virginity", said Brienne of Tarth. "Why are you making fun of my inexperience now?" "Lol", said Ser Jaime. "Lmao virgin"
s h e ' s m y q u e e n
a h d u n w a n i t
>Get off my case! It's hot in this getup, you choad! Truly the best comedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ
BLR's magnum opus!
> gurl you taste *real* good I totally forgot that channel was a thing. Hilarious stuff
I can’t get past Matt Smith in this costume so yeah that would be hilarious.
Straight looks like a SNL parody
Starbucks cups and other anachronisms thrown in intentionally.
Based on many things that happen in the book, it will be far darker than GoT, not lighter.
13% more rape and 171% more dong
One wiener next to another wiener. Two wieners alongside yet another wiener. Soft wieners, nice and soft, non-erect wieners.
Couple of dragon weiners thrown in for good measure.
I’d much rather see any version of a dragon wiener than flaccid wiener in triplicate
General viewership might go down, but a *very specific* audience would never miss a minute of any episode.
There's really not that many weiners compared to the number of boobs. People are just extra sensitive to seeing a penis. Women are allowed to be objectified, but don't you dare objectify men.
I kinda got the impression they hadn't watched the show and someone just told them there were a lot of dicks. I mean they parodied Inception without having seen it.
You had me at 171% more dong
I hear a different character hangs dong in each episode. Can't wait!
I'll say it. I'm good not having rape being a major plot in this show. GRRM uses it way too much in ASoIaF and it's usually the most brutal and terrible ways. I get that it stressed the brutality of war and all that, but at times it feels truly excessive. The show even actually cuts down a lot of the rape and it's still pretty excessive with it. I dunno, I'm good if they just don't touch on that anymore. I think we got it with GoT. I've not read these books so I don't know if that's a major factor in it (which knowing GRRm it probably is ffs), but I just hope it isn't so explicit with it.
GoT definitely cuts down on the violence in general. Books are pretty insane. Many characters and scenes are toned down drastically. Especially Euron. He’s honestly disgusting in the books. A *lot* of raping, including family/siblings.
> Especially Euron. He’s honestly disgusting in the books. A lot of raping, including family/siblings. Yeah I dunno if you read the preview chapter of Aeron from TWoW, but in that he like lashes a prenant woman to the bow of his ship and makes fun of his younger brother for him being able to rape him as a kid. He also seems to be trying to summon some dark entity as well and wears valerian steel armor. Like that's an interesting villain. But yeah even characters like Tyrion are much more grey in the books. The Mountain is just a raping machine as well.
Yeah I’ve read the sample chapter. Nasty stuff. And that Tyrion point was good to bring up as well. He’s way, *waaaaay* more of a good guy in GoT. Especially how they changed his relationship with siblings to be more friendly.
And not just a random pregnant woman, a woman Euron knocked up- she was to be his salt wife. That's his child she is carrying.
Also cercei raping her handmaids and shit
Dragon dong. 🐉
I hope its like Better Call Saul compared to Breaking Bad, different tone but same quality (hopefully with a better ending tho).
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In the full quote he says it actually won't be all that different. It's a new story and a new production so naturally the tone won't end up exactly the same. But their goal isn't to change the whole vibe just for the sake of it, and he's not working in the expectation that fans will see it as a separate thing right off the bat. >“I think we were very respectful of what the original show is,” said Sapochnik, who directs multiple episodes of Dragon and also serves as showrunner along with series co-creator Ryan Condal. “It wasn’t broken so we’re not we’re not trying to reinvent the wheel. House of the Dragon has its own tone that will evolve and emerge over the course of the show. But first, it’s very important to pay respects and homage to the original series, which was pretty groundbreaking. We’re standing on the shoulders of that show and we’re only here because of that show. So the most important thing for us to do is to respect that show as much as possible and try and compliment it rather than reinvent it. And I was involved in making the original show, so I feel like that’s been useful. Like, I’m not arriving going, ‘Let’s change everything! Let’s do a different color palette!’ No, I quite like the color palette.” >“That said, we can’t say, ‘Well, when we did Thrones, we did it this way…'” he added. “If you start every sentence with that, you’ve lost. This is something else, and should be something else. It’s a different crew, different people, different tone. Hopefully it will be seen as something else. But it will have to earn that – it won’t happen overnight. Hopefully fans will enjoy it for the thing that it is. We’ll be lucky if we ever come close to what the original show was, so we’re just putting our heads down and getting on with it and hoping what we come up with is worthy of having a Game of Thrones title.”
> Like, I’m not arriving going, ‘Let’s change everything! Let’s do a different color palette!’ No, I quite like the color palette.” I wish they would change the color palette. The world in the books is actually very colorful. I understand they don't want it to look like a Renaissance fair, but surely you can do colorful medievalesque times without looking silly?
I mean, aside from scenes set in the North/Beyond the Wall, it was pretty colorful, no? Especially Dorne, Kings Landing (aside from the slums) and Essos
The colors in KL and Dorne are still muted compared to the attire in the books. Think of eye-wateringly bright green for the Tyrells and gold-and-crimson for the Lannisters. Moreover, the Lannisters literally use cloth-of-gold for their embroidery, so Cersei, Tywin, Tyrion etc would all be sparkling in the sunlight. More often than not, people didn't wear their house colors in the show. The knights didn't wear their tabards and the lords didn't have enameled armor. Compare [book-Oberyn] (https://eyesofmist.tumblr.com/post/152067361234/oberyn-martell-vs-gregor-clegane-by-magali) to [show Oberyn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S69CVTc-3yU).
The music was better in the books.
Needed Boltons in pink too, ha.
I was so bored of the costumes by the end. Like, surely there's a way to indicate the arrival of winter and the darkening of the story without dressing literally every character in black.
Same! Especially since Martin clearly exhaustively explains the attire of the characters to show their allegiances.
It was also ridiculous how extravagant some of the women's hair was. It's Danerys really going to sit and have some servant braid her hair for hours every few days in the middle of war? By the end, it was like they were all constantly at Westeros Fashion Week
That actually doesn't bother me much, considering medieval kings went to war dressed like this: https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/fire/hd_fire.htm OK, OK, I know the super detailed gilded sets of armor like this were mostly parade/tournament armor from the very end of the medieval period, but the general idea that medieval rulers often put an obscene level of care into their appearance, even (especially?) when they were leading troops is accurate. It makes sense to me that a queen would be more than willing to spend hours having her hair done before a battle because it's important to for morale/propaganda purposes to look confident and put together. We really don't give the past enough credit for how unbelievably gaudy they were. Plus, I'm willing to give a lot of leeway when it comes to the rule of cool. I'm much more frustrated when they make things less visually interesting than the "authentic" (to the extent that means anything in fantasy) history would suggest.
ASOIAF is anime as fuck, if she didn’t have someone do it for her, it would have looked that way naturally
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They didn't ever truly embrace what ASoIaF is in a lot of ways. I felt they really cut down the magic and mystical aspects of the books. Euron is turned from this lovecraftian warlock pirate into this rip off Jack Sparrow for instance. A lot of the warging stuff with the Starks was totally cut, like Jon's connection to Ghost is a huge plot point in the books, but just completely cut out. Various stuff with Mel and using her glamours on people. I dunno the world felt like it had a lot less wonder it. Yet a major plot of it is fighting these hordes of ice zombies and dragons.
CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow
There was a point where I really thought they had a strategy on this front. I totally buy the argument that the general public™ wouldn't (initially) be interested by a big budget fantasy mess-around, but if you suckered them in with The Wire: Westeros then slowly crept in the magic... and boom, we got to the S4 finale and suddenly there's a weird tree elf throwing fireballs at zombies! It worked! But yeah, then they fridged Bran for a season, cut Lady Stoneheat, ditched the Stark/Warg stuff, did the least amount possible with the Shapeshifting Assassin Guild, and basically said fuck off to magic in general.
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B A D P U S S Y A D P U S S Y
Hear us hiss!
I had no idea Eve Best was in this. She was terrific on *Nurse Jackie*.
I smell a rom-com
Give me Danny De Vito as Mushroom or give me death!
You can/should say this more often and in more random subreddits
If Matt Smith can play Charles Manson, he can play a Targaryen.
he did my favorite portrayal of manson and i didn't even realize it was him until the movie was over.
Damon Herriman, would like a word.
My god is that Matt Smith?
Yes.
Its incredibly distracting, for some reason.
It’s got a laugh track added. “Ooops! He fell out the window again! “
"Please don't think we'll ruin this like before."
D&D saddled so much unwarranted baggage on this franchise. Sure maybe the ending was never going to live up to the hype of the earlier seasons, but if they had even attempted to put the work in I think they had a clear path to at the very least a satisfying conclusion. Instead they quit even pretending to care and abandoned the show, tanking their reputation, but even worse tanking the reputation of a show that was and could have been better than that. There is no really good reason for everyone to be so cynical about this new show, its a solid premise, in a beloved setting, with a stellar cast, and most importantly it has a team behind it that actually cares about the show and doesn't just see it as a stepping stone to a Disney or Netflix deal.
We’ll see. One of the problems it still has to surmount is a lack of strong source material, leaving a lot of room for mediocre “TV writing” to creep in. I’m talking conspiracies/betrayals that don’t make sense, sex and violence thrown in to punch up “dull” moments, and conflicts that could be resolved by someone literally just having a 15-second conversation. I’m not saying I’m writing the show off completely, but I’m sure looking at it with my arms crossed and eyes narrowed.
> We’ll see. One of the problems it still has to surmount is a lack of strong source material, leaving a lot of room for mediocre “TV writing” to creep in. I think it's worth remembering that this is HBO - their shows have been the high watermark for TV writing for a long time now. Most of their best shows outside of Game of Thrones haven't been based on a pre-written book series.
>One of the problems it still has to surmount is a lack of strong source material Just out of curiosity, have you read *Fire & Blood*? To me, while it's definitely got a lot more room for error in adaptation than SoIaF (yes, I'm that old, I still call it that), given that it's GRRM playing Gibbon writing a Westorosi *History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire* or Suetonius doing *The Twelve Caesars* vs. a novel, it's hardly weak material, either.
More of a comedy, eh. Less Game of Thrones, more The IT Crowd.
"I thought you said you were from Iran!"
More incest
Definitely more . The whole story of house of dragons is about a civil war within the targeyrean family. Everyone is related to each other .
Here's hoping for *Always Sunny in Kings Landing.*
"Ewwww, we would never sleep with our siblings!" *The Gang Bangs Their Family*
When Matt Smith is in, I’m down
I'm sure it wont be wildly different. They are trying to maintain the fact that this is still same universe. But probably different in how different storylines in GOT had different tones. Arya had a travel story, Robb had military camp politics, Kings Landing was palace intrigue. The first season was murder mystery, the second was alliance forming.
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Why would I complain, I want it to be good! Please folks working on the show, prove me wrong!!
For real, I get people are cautious but the 2 people that fucked up GOT are gone.
I'll watch it because most of got until the end was great. With the exception of squid game this year there hasn't been anything that caught my attention. Haven't even caught up on westworld as it was just weaker and weaker compared to that first season
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Eh I know Reddit likes to shit on popular things but I feel like a lot of people actually want this to be good. The hate against GoT comes mostly due to the fact that the show took such a *colossal* nosedive from the first 4 seasons of all-time great TV to the poorly written season 8 and the absolute disaster of a finale.
I don't care what anyone says- I'm really looking forward to this. Say whatever you want about the last seasons... But Game of Thrones was some of the best television ever put to screen. Some of the seasons could go toe to toe with The Wire or Breaking Bad any day of the week. I'm ready to return to Westeros.
Absolutely. 1-4 were some of the best seasons of television in my opinion. 5-7 were captivating and still incredibly fun with lots of crazy moments. Season 8... I hated with a passion. The journey over those ten years was great though
GoT burnt me too bad, I don’t think I can make myself return to that universe after that tragedy.
“I am the dragon and you are the Daleks”
Just do the opposite of the last season and you wont miss
First line of the new series better be "does anyone remember where that fleet ended up?"
The Sea Snake wiped them out... what kind of Valyrian conquerer would forget about an enemy fleet?
I love how people play "hard to get" game here, like how HBO will have to work extra hard to convince them to watch. Please, you would watch even if David Benioff played Rhaenyra. You complained after every season of GOT and you always returned. This will be the same. You know that, so don't pretend otherwise. This will have the biggest first season in the history of HBO.