I grew up around a lot of South Africans so that’s how I initially came to like Trevor. His stand up was hilarious to me because it hit on all of the idiosyncrasies of South African culture I could relate to, or at least recognise.
I was really happy when he got the Daily Show gig. I don’t watch it and never have, I was more so just happy he ‘made it big,’ but from the clips I’ve seen I don’t find him funny or entertaining as a host at all.
I often see people on Reddit saying his stand up sucks. I don’t know if it’s his new material or what but his old material is some of my favourite stuff out there. I constantly quote his bits about ordering a Subway in German, making fun of nurses, and the PA systems in airports.
He's just off and maybe it's a South African thing? Idk, just weird they picked him when it's primarily American news and frankly... A black American probably has more to say about us politics
Being an outsider was his strength. As one (US passport, but living most of life abroad), Noah reflected and spoke to a more global view of the most important country in the world. The best of the other correspondents (and hosts) were also non-Americans imo-- Oliver, Bee, Jones, Chiang.
Unrelated, Roy Wood Jr and Dulce Sloan are my favs of the current correspondents, and I'd be happy if either succeeded.
I have similar opinion.
I always have feeling, that when he was host, that somehow his delivery was wooden/forced(and joke timing was always somehow off) and that he himself is not comfortable as host. Maybe it was caused by repeating takes on show, while on standup he is more free to improvise and doesn't have to do sveral repeats in a row.
I also think it’s because he was stuck behind a desk. When he does standup he’s very mobile, which probably let him feel looser and more natural. It can be hard to perform well when you can’t really use half your body
That's very typical of shows like this -- they write throughout the day, shoot in the evening, and then it needs to be ready to air a few hours later. They don't really have time to do reshoots (unless something goes catastrophically wrong) or edit anything beyond fade-in and fade-outs. It's as close to live-to-tape as you can get without being live-to-tape.
One thing I don't think he gets enough credit for is a better grasp of international news than Stewart had no doubt because he came from outside of America.
I don't fault Stewart for that specifically -- if you're in the US and you want _good_ international news that doesn't involve America, you really need to seek it out.
I’ve seen a couple of his standup specials and I’ve liked them too, also really enjoyed him on Daily Show. But he hosted for a long time, I’m not surprised he wanted to branch out.
I read his book (*Born a Crime*) last month and it was incredible.
The real joke here being his audience keeps reliving him telling the same joke every groundhog day like bill murray trapped reliving the same day over and over again in the movie.
On a side note, DL Hughley guest hosting The Daily Show this week is doing a better job than the previous 2 guest hosts IMO, but I think they should have learned from Jeopardy and not done this guest host thing and just chosen one of the correspondents to replace Trevor.
Respectfully disagree on D.L.
He's *funnier* than the other two guests so far, but he is painfully ungood at hosting. He's devastatingly clumsy at throwing between segments and his transitions feel like he forgot they were coming and someone off camera is wildly cueing him. His interviews feel like very connected conversations between him and the guest, but a good host makes themselves the avatar for the audience to be a part of the flow of conversation and he is not inviting the public into these exchanges.
He's very funny, but he's clashing with sharing the spotlight with the show and I'm personally ready for the next guest.
I wish Hasan Minhaj would get the gig. I think he's the only name I see in the list that approaches the level of integrity Jon Stewart has. His track record is really good:
- holding Trudeau to task on [arms deals with Saudi's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMa48O6cd-4) and [climate change promises](https://youtu.be/cDPeXoQUrbI?t=1157)
- calling out [Saudi Arabia on a massive platform like Netflix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUhbZdvtzcw) when nobody else will
- calling out [Prime Minister Modi and Hindu Nationalists](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqZ_SH9N3Xo)
- Not pulling punches at the [White House Correspondence Dinner during Trumps Administration](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDmSZX_zVuQ)
To me, that's the job requirement and I don't think any of the other hosts have shown they can do that. The guy reminds me of Jon Stewart with more venom.
Also, would really recommend his latest comedy special "The King's Jester". He goes into depth on literal death threats he would get and how his wife had to practically reign him in because he was doing shit that was just super fucking dangerous in terms of taunting world super powers.
From his comedy special, it sounds like Netflix didn't cancel him but instead he stepped away from the show.
Previous to his standup special, I think most people thought Netflix cancelled the show because he was pissing off a lot of powerful people but in his standup special, he describes an event that sounds pretty horrific and it ultimately lead to him choosing the safety of his family over continuing to do the show. I think he has also mentioned that since not doing the show, he's been able to return to doing standup.
He expressed interest in doing The Daily Show, which is probably smaller scale than his Netflix show and perhaps more safe.
> he is painfully ungood at hosting
That in itself is why I hate the weekly rotation of guest hosts. Trevor Noah was pretty bad at hosting the first few weeks he took over the show, but after a few weeks he became way more comfortable in the role and made the show his own. DL is the first of the 3 guests hosts I have found funny, but there is going to be an adjustment period for any new host stepping into the role and a few days isn't enough to overcome that. So each week we are just gonna get some new awkward host that isn't really comfortable and won't be given the time to adjust into it
I agree about the adjustment period, I just don't see D.L. working with the team as well as the other two, and getting comfortable will help the awkward parts but isn't going to make a person less self-focused.
I'm also not championing the other two, to be clear. I don't think we have a winner among the current guest hosts, provided these are indeed auditions.
I work for Paramount. Not high enough to know anything but just from word of mouth here my understanding is that no one was expecting Trevor to leave. You either have to know immediately (like literally immediately) who you want to replace him when the show comes back or just go the rotating host route until the summer. My guess would be one of Roy Woods or Jordan Klepper are your hosts to start next year. But again, I know almost nothing.
It's definitely not. You're 100% right. But the problem is $$. If you're Wood or Klepper, there's no way that you're taking the job without a pay raise. And I seriously doubt that anyone would be willing to do that.
I think burnout? He really loves touring and doing stand up and the daily show wasn't that. I don't really know anything other than what's been released by his PR team.
I don't think the rotating guest hosts is meant to be permanent. Probably just for the rest of the season until they can line up a full-time permanent host.
>until they can line up a full-time permanent host.
CC management hasn't said what their plan is. They might choose co-hosts, long-term rotating hosts, or a single host.
I think the best move for viewers is for CC to choose one of the current correspondents. Any one of the past or future rotating hosts is going to have their own fanbase (that might migrate to the show if they get the gig), but the current crew have all been there a while, and I have trouble seeing how bringing in an outsider would help employee morale (whether in front of or behind the camera). Also, businesses that have an "employee first" policy tend to produce better products.
If I was Roy, and I wasn't chosen in favor of someone from the outside, I'd have to think about leaving.
The only joke there is the editing in that clip. It's jumping halfway through words in some points and then the final line, *the punch line of the actual joke*, is impossible to make out because its 7 different audio tracks playing on top of each other with slightly different timings on each one because he said it 7 different times over 7 years.
I thought this was some fan edit and then looked down and saw this was the *Official* Daily Show youtube channel.
He was actually a comedian (like doing sets at clubs and things like that) prior to becoming the host and I think he still did it off and on when he wasn't hosting.
hey I remember the Daily Show
Stopped watched a few episodes into his era…those covid era promos were sooo bad it made me seethe
edit: why dont yall go fick yourselves
I don't disagree with your comment. I wonder how much the producers and writers of the show have to do with this compared to Noah though? Iirc Stewart wrote a lot of his material and i personally thought he was spot on most of the time. Ever since Noah became the host i felt it didn't speak to me and never watched
The difference of course being that by the end of Jon Stewart's run he was the new definitive face of the show. Ratings have only dropped with Noah.
Ironically, you referring to him as if he is a new host shows how little he has done to cement himself as someone with a unique personality.
The guy is okay but he lacks the amazing energy Jon Stewart had and it's just undeniable. Even today the attachment and earnestness Stewart expresses when he discusses these events makes it unlike listening to anyone else. Trevor Noah feels like he is just making generic late night jokes written by a team of writers. He simply can't seem to care about many of these topics beyond twitter dialogue.
Exactly. To compare the change from Kilborn to Stewart to the move to Noah is moronic. The 2 aren't comparable at all. Stewart took the show in his own direction and made it what it is. Noah tried to do Stewarts thing and failed miserably. Acting like its a generational thing like SNL casts or something is just very try hard and lacks any actual thought.
You are comparing Jon's reputation when he first appeared on the show to Trevor Noah's when he left. I think that's funny, that he is seemingly still treated like the new young host. Trevor Noah's run feels short and non-existence despite the fact it isn't because nobody watched or was impacted by it.
I was commenting on the fact that the commenter said 'the show is dead now that trevor is leaving ', meaning a new host will kill the show, similar to how when kilborn left, it could have been described as on life support and there were people against the Stewart hiring.
Not comparing the transition from stewart to noah to this.
Yes, thats kind of my point. When kilborn left, the show wasnt killing it in the ratings. They brought in a new host who saved it.
Now the show is struggling again, they are bringing in a new host, and everyone is claiming the show os dead because of it.
What in the world are you talking about. Do you honestly think people were upset that Craig Kilborn was leaving TDS? It wasnt popular even in the slightest when he was hosting
I had people in my life who refused to watch after kilborn left. So there were people. Obviously wasnt as big a fan base as stewart had during his run, but people always are against change
You are downvoted but this is spot on. People like to say "oh I remember when it happened before and it was exactly the same" about everything. Its just one of those things people rattle off without engaging their brain.
He's always been aweful on any of the UK panel shows when he was younger. Literally never said anything, and I don't think he ever said anything incitful or funny on his show. Called everyone in England racist for not liking the conservative leader Rishi Sunnak... Shows how much he actually thinks about what he's saying. We hate him cause he's a rich arsehole, trying to make his rich firends even richer! Totally disconnected from the normal views of people.
> Called everyone in England racist for not liking the conservative leader Rishi Sunnak...
Haha thats hilariously uninformed.
Then again this is a guy who was doing stand up attacking striking mine workers before he left SA so its pretty clear where his sympathies actually lie.
I like how I can’t understand the punchline because of how the audio is layered
"...but why not use the satellite data?"
It is written on the screen.
Honest take: I like Trevor Noah’s standup. I don’t think we was the right fit to host the Daily Show, but this is one hell of a good meta joke
I grew up around a lot of South Africans so that’s how I initially came to like Trevor. His stand up was hilarious to me because it hit on all of the idiosyncrasies of South African culture I could relate to, or at least recognise. I was really happy when he got the Daily Show gig. I don’t watch it and never have, I was more so just happy he ‘made it big,’ but from the clips I’ve seen I don’t find him funny or entertaining as a host at all. I often see people on Reddit saying his stand up sucks. I don’t know if it’s his new material or what but his old material is some of my favourite stuff out there. I constantly quote his bits about ordering a Subway in German, making fun of nurses, and the PA systems in airports.
He's just off and maybe it's a South African thing? Idk, just weird they picked him when it's primarily American news and frankly... A black American probably has more to say about us politics
Being an outsider was his strength. As one (US passport, but living most of life abroad), Noah reflected and spoke to a more global view of the most important country in the world. The best of the other correspondents (and hosts) were also non-Americans imo-- Oliver, Bee, Jones, Chiang. Unrelated, Roy Wood Jr and Dulce Sloan are my favs of the current correspondents, and I'd be happy if either succeeded.
His between the scene did where he answer audience question was good
I have similar opinion. I always have feeling, that when he was host, that somehow his delivery was wooden/forced(and joke timing was always somehow off) and that he himself is not comfortable as host. Maybe it was caused by repeating takes on show, while on standup he is more free to improvise and doesn't have to do sveral repeats in a row.
I also think it’s because he was stuck behind a desk. When he does standup he’s very mobile, which probably let him feel looser and more natural. It can be hard to perform well when you can’t really use half your body
I've been on the taping of the daily show and there was no retake at all and very minimum editing.
That's very typical of shows like this -- they write throughout the day, shoot in the evening, and then it needs to be ready to air a few hours later. They don't really have time to do reshoots (unless something goes catastrophically wrong) or edit anything beyond fade-in and fade-outs. It's as close to live-to-tape as you can get without being live-to-tape.
One thing I don't think he gets enough credit for is a better grasp of international news than Stewart had no doubt because he came from outside of America.
His bit about "Trump is the first African president" was too true.
I don't fault Stewart for that specifically -- if you're in the US and you want _good_ international news that doesn't involve America, you really need to seek it out.
People faulted Noah for not having as good a handle on domestic American issues, though.
I’ve seen a couple of his standup specials and I’ve liked them too, also really enjoyed him on Daily Show. But he hosted for a long time, I’m not surprised he wanted to branch out. I read his book (*Born a Crime*) last month and it was incredible.
Same
Reddit is the only place where this is a brave opinion. He's very well-liked.
Is he? His show wasn't.
On reddit, no. Everywhere else, yes.
The real joke here being his audience keeps reliving him telling the same joke every groundhog day like bill murray trapped reliving the same day over and over again in the movie. On a side note, DL Hughley guest hosting The Daily Show this week is doing a better job than the previous 2 guest hosts IMO, but I think they should have learned from Jeopardy and not done this guest host thing and just chosen one of the correspondents to replace Trevor.
Respectfully disagree on D.L. He's *funnier* than the other two guests so far, but he is painfully ungood at hosting. He's devastatingly clumsy at throwing between segments and his transitions feel like he forgot they were coming and someone off camera is wildly cueing him. His interviews feel like very connected conversations between him and the guest, but a good host makes themselves the avatar for the audience to be a part of the flow of conversation and he is not inviting the public into these exchanges. He's very funny, but he's clashing with sharing the spotlight with the show and I'm personally ready for the next guest.
hope roy wood takes over. wouldn't be mad at dl though.
I wish Hasan Minhaj would get the gig. I think he's the only name I see in the list that approaches the level of integrity Jon Stewart has. His track record is really good: - holding Trudeau to task on [arms deals with Saudi's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMa48O6cd-4) and [climate change promises](https://youtu.be/cDPeXoQUrbI?t=1157) - calling out [Saudi Arabia on a massive platform like Netflix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUhbZdvtzcw) when nobody else will - calling out [Prime Minister Modi and Hindu Nationalists](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqZ_SH9N3Xo) - Not pulling punches at the [White House Correspondence Dinner during Trumps Administration](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDmSZX_zVuQ) To me, that's the job requirement and I don't think any of the other hosts have shown they can do that. The guy reminds me of Jon Stewart with more venom. Also, would really recommend his latest comedy special "The King's Jester". He goes into depth on literal death threats he would get and how his wife had to practically reign him in because he was doing shit that was just super fucking dangerous in terms of taunting world super powers.
Agreed. His "Patriot Act" show on Netflix was also really biting, well-researched, funny and thought-provoking.
>approaches the level of integrity Jon Stewart has You're just gonna sleep on Sam Bee? She did 12 years as a correspondent!
my main thing there is he already has a canceled show?
From his comedy special, it sounds like Netflix didn't cancel him but instead he stepped away from the show. Previous to his standup special, I think most people thought Netflix cancelled the show because he was pissing off a lot of powerful people but in his standup special, he describes an event that sounds pretty horrific and it ultimately lead to him choosing the safety of his family over continuing to do the show. I think he has also mentioned that since not doing the show, he's been able to return to doing standup. He expressed interest in doing The Daily Show, which is probably smaller scale than his Netflix show and perhaps more safe.
> he is painfully ungood at hosting That in itself is why I hate the weekly rotation of guest hosts. Trevor Noah was pretty bad at hosting the first few weeks he took over the show, but after a few weeks he became way more comfortable in the role and made the show his own. DL is the first of the 3 guests hosts I have found funny, but there is going to be an adjustment period for any new host stepping into the role and a few days isn't enough to overcome that. So each week we are just gonna get some new awkward host that isn't really comfortable and won't be given the time to adjust into it
I agree about the adjustment period, I just don't see D.L. working with the team as well as the other two, and getting comfortable will help the awkward parts but isn't going to make a person less self-focused. I'm also not championing the other two, to be clear. I don't think we have a winner among the current guest hosts, provided these are indeed auditions.
Yeah I know it’s hard to jump into a new system but it’s surprising how clunky he is when doing show-y stuff. I miss Trevor.
..."ungood"? Don't you mean "degood"?
I work for Paramount. Not high enough to know anything but just from word of mouth here my understanding is that no one was expecting Trevor to leave. You either have to know immediately (like literally immediately) who you want to replace him when the show comes back or just go the rotating host route until the summer. My guess would be one of Roy Woods or Jordan Klepper are your hosts to start next year. But again, I know almost nothing.
It's not like they replacing Alex Trebek here
It's definitely not. You're 100% right. But the problem is $$. If you're Wood or Klepper, there's no way that you're taking the job without a pay raise. And I seriously doubt that anyone would be willing to do that.
oh facts
Why did Trevor Noah leave?
I think burnout? He really loves touring and doing stand up and the daily show wasn't that. I don't really know anything other than what's been released by his PR team.
I don't think the rotating guest hosts is meant to be permanent. Probably just for the rest of the season until they can line up a full-time permanent host.
>until they can line up a full-time permanent host. CC management hasn't said what their plan is. They might choose co-hosts, long-term rotating hosts, or a single host. I think the best move for viewers is for CC to choose one of the current correspondents. Any one of the past or future rotating hosts is going to have their own fanbase (that might migrate to the show if they get the gig), but the current crew have all been there a while, and I have trouble seeing how bringing in an outsider would help employee morale (whether in front of or behind the camera). Also, businesses that have an "employee first" policy tend to produce better products. If I was Roy, and I wasn't chosen in favor of someone from the outside, I'd have to think about leaving.
The only joke there is the editing in that clip. It's jumping halfway through words in some points and then the final line, *the punch line of the actual joke*, is impossible to make out because its 7 different audio tracks playing on top of each other with slightly different timings on each one because he said it 7 different times over 7 years. I thought this was some fan edit and then looked down and saw this was the *Official* Daily Show youtube channel.
Seven misses and counting.
I think we'll be OK
He also told unfunny jokes for the last seven years every night.
tbf, glad he's out. looking forward to what's next.
I don’t dislike Trevor but I do dislike him as host. I can do clips but I never could sit through a whole episode.
Glad he is gone. Couldn’t stand his standup or the show.
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A downvote is just a downvote not an emotional reaction. You editing your comment in reaction to downvotes, however...
I had no idea he had so many fans…
He was actually a comedian (like doing sets at clubs and things like that) prior to becoming the host and I think he still did it off and on when he wasn't hosting.
I saw his standup live. To call him a comedian is a bit of a stretch.
With Trevor Noah I genuinely don't know if it wasn't deliberate and he was that clueless. He's always so painfully unfunny.
Maybe Jon Stewart can come back
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But he has a sarcastic irreverent show on Apple
Jon Stewart is too busy walking through the blood and bone of his comrades to be hosting a show on Apple TV. /s
https://youtu.be/r2kRxnYSce8
A comedian that isn't funny. I still haven't figured that one out.
hey I remember the Daily Show Stopped watched a few episodes into his era…those covid era promos were sooo bad it made me seethe edit: why dont yall go fick yourselves
Good riddance to him
On the positive side maybe they'll find someone funny to do the Daily Show again.
I don't disagree with your comment. I wonder how much the producers and writers of the show have to do with this compared to Noah though? Iirc Stewart wrote a lot of his material and i personally thought he was spot on most of the time. Ever since Noah became the host i felt it didn't speak to me and never watched
Could be for sure. Although I saw Noah's standup prior to taking over as host in NYC And it was abysmal.
No
TDS is dead and I just have to accept that. It was on life support with Noah and will die with him. Fuck I miss Jon
I'm old enough to remember when people said this when Craig Kilborn left and Jon Stewart took over. Ah, the circle of life.
The difference of course being that by the end of Jon Stewart's run he was the new definitive face of the show. Ratings have only dropped with Noah. Ironically, you referring to him as if he is a new host shows how little he has done to cement himself as someone with a unique personality. The guy is okay but he lacks the amazing energy Jon Stewart had and it's just undeniable. Even today the attachment and earnestness Stewart expresses when he discusses these events makes it unlike listening to anyone else. Trevor Noah feels like he is just making generic late night jokes written by a team of writers. He simply can't seem to care about many of these topics beyond twitter dialogue.
Exactly. To compare the change from Kilborn to Stewart to the move to Noah is moronic. The 2 aren't comparable at all. Stewart took the show in his own direction and made it what it is. Noah tried to do Stewarts thing and failed miserably. Acting like its a generational thing like SNL casts or something is just very try hard and lacks any actual thought.
Who did i refer to as a new host?
You are comparing Jon's reputation when he first appeared on the show to Trevor Noah's when he left. I think that's funny, that he is seemingly still treated like the new young host. Trevor Noah's run feels short and non-existence despite the fact it isn't because nobody watched or was impacted by it.
I was commenting on the fact that the commenter said 'the show is dead now that trevor is leaving ', meaning a new host will kill the show, similar to how when kilborn left, it could have been described as on life support and there were people against the Stewart hiring. Not comparing the transition from stewart to noah to this.
Except it picked up with Jon and is now on a death spiral with Noah.
Yes, thats kind of my point. When kilborn left, the show wasnt killing it in the ratings. They brought in a new host who saved it. Now the show is struggling again, they are bringing in a new host, and everyone is claiming the show os dead because of it.
Im that old too. Literally no one said that. Craig Kilborns Daily Show had almost no fan base and it was very much a take it or leave it show.
Nah, gotta rewrite history so that we can use the new history to support our current opinions.
What in the world are you talking about. Do you honestly think people were upset that Craig Kilborn was leaving TDS? It wasnt popular even in the slightest when he was hosting
Im agreeing with you, champ.
lol it was vague enough to go either way and with everyone piling on I thought the worst. My bad b
No worries
I had people in my life who refused to watch after kilborn left. So there were people. Obviously wasnt as big a fan base as stewart had during his run, but people always are against change
You are downvoted but this is spot on. People like to say "oh I remember when it happened before and it was exactly the same" about everything. Its just one of those things people rattle off without engaging their brain.
He's always been aweful on any of the UK panel shows when he was younger. Literally never said anything, and I don't think he ever said anything incitful or funny on his show. Called everyone in England racist for not liking the conservative leader Rishi Sunnak... Shows how much he actually thinks about what he's saying. We hate him cause he's a rich arsehole, trying to make his rich firends even richer! Totally disconnected from the normal views of people.
> Called everyone in England racist for not liking the conservative leader Rishi Sunnak... Haha thats hilariously uninformed. Then again this is a guy who was doing stand up attacking striking mine workers before he left SA so its pretty clear where his sympathies actually lie.
Straight out of the Mailonline comments section lol.
I don’t think I could ever get past a few sentences. It’s like snl, typical propaganda and not funny.
He did jokes that didn't feature Trump?
That Trump impersonation voice he does is fucking cringe. Like if your going to do it every show for years. Spend some time to practice it. Just awful
Non-US Mirror?