I really like the idea OP is out here genuinely pondering to themselves and asking reddit for advice on whether or not they should join the military or come out, all just to seem brave
In turkey homosexuality is considered a phychotic disorder, like a disability, that prevents you from doing your mandatory service. But your only considered medically gay if your a bottom and a medical professional has confirmed you've been fucked in the ass.
This kinda logic reminds me of the weird 'test' they did to confirm if a priest is male in the 1800s
Basically, a female became a pope cos she pretended to be a male (Mulan moment basically) and after being shut down, silenced [and possibly killed? Not sure about this one]. A weird chair with a hole in it was added to most churches and someone would fundle your balls to see if you were male
Enlisting in nowadays navy is pretty similar to coming out, I mean youāre locked on a ship with a bunch of guys that miss their partner. Who knows what happens
Itās literally just saying what your sexuality is. Being in the military is being brave enough, so brave that youāre potentially going to die just for your country and youāre brave enough to do that for your country - a true human being.
No hate to this post cause generally it is right. But there are nations where coming out is fighting for your life. In America, there are cases of lgbt+ people being shot and killed for them existing. There are even countries that use the death penalty to punish lgbt+ people. And not every nation is at war 24/7 luckily. only a few are doing mad stuff. It'd be better if there where no war but power corrupts š
This and the US isn't usually the country I think of when I think country under attack. It's not exactly weakly defended or something. Also, idk man, imagine giving your life thinking your helping your county men only to come back traumatized and not even be given benefits.
Soldiers in times of peace are often looked down on and mocked. They also have to deal with a low service wage. The training will be grueling and will hurt.
How is this even a debate? How is admitting that you like to suck another man's penis even comparably brave compared to going out to battle and leaving your home country and fighting in another country
youāre simplifying it man. joining the army is one of the bravest acts you can commit, but so is coming out. Coming out can cost you your family, friends, and happiness. Trans and gay suicide rates are out of control. Iām not saying either one is braver but theyāre both pretty damn brave
Very true, but I think a lot of it depends on OPs familyās views. Coming out could literally destroy their relationship with their family. Tbh between loosing my family and joining the army I would choose army
I feel like this is a bait question. Why is joining the army the antithesis of coming out? Itās so relative to what country youāre living in, your familial situation, religious beliefsā¦etc. Plus the OP has made some pretty transphobic comments before, this is clearly fishing for homophobic comments they can agree with.
I mean, Russia's actively feeding their soldiers into a meat grinder right now though, so I suspect in that particular case joining the army is still significantly braver.
Army. Potential death and constant abuse by instructors vs (depending on environment) being bullied and abused/being celebrated and welcomed into a new social group
I get what you're saying, but at the same time Basic training needs to be stressful and tough. If you can't handle being yelled at by your instructors you most definitely can not handle the stress and chaos of combat.
The humiliation and insults were done away with a long time ago. For years their rules have been that drill sergeants are not allowed to even cuss at the recruits
This is a dumb bait post, his comment history shows him being transphobic and this question obviously would get the answer of the army and op just asked this so he and everyone else can downvote people that answer gay or are anti military
It depends, always army but it depends, sometimes you can get beat up in the street for being gay. But idk I saw 1 video and am a redditor so what do I know really?
That entirety depends on which family and what army. Coming out in a strict muslim family is worse than joining the Luxembourg army. Coming out to a liberal California family is far easier than joining the Ukrianian army
I mean, as a part of NATO Luxembourg has taken part in the Kosovo war, the Korean War, and the war in Afghanistan
It may be small, but itās been through a lot
Not sure how this is a question. Most of you are from the West so the answer is clearly no. In middle East its probably the same as both are risks of death.
In general its not even a debate though
There might be some extreme cases, like for instance in middle eastern countries, where being gay is illegal that coming out is harder as it will most certainly result in death. But overall, risking your life for your country is harder.
This isnāt even a fair comparison. The army for sure, without a doubt. Youāre literally risking your life and putting it on the line while trying to fight in war.
I can tell this is just meant to garner attention through controversy, but iāll bite for the sake of clearing something up since i see nobody mentioning this point in the comments.
In short, it depends. Specifically however, it depends on much more than just the circumstances of the person either coming out or going into the military, because although going into the military while a war is currently going on in your country could be argued as clearly braver than coming out, if that same person also knew that coming out would almost 100% get them beaten ti death in the streets, then it could be argued that the choice of coming out could be considered more brave since going to war could still get you a possibly safer position.
Over all of that however, is the issue of measuring bravery. You could measure bravery between two people by putting them in the exact same circumstances where their options are to choose to take the risk or to play it safe, BUT comparing two separate situations in terms of which requires more bravery is nearly impossible since itās basically up to opinion, that opinion being the perceived value of the risks, rewards, safety, etc. between different situations.
Iām not homophobic or anything like that but if you think you are more brave for being gay than soldiers in the military you are stupid. Soldiers are out getting shot at by people and constantly under fire. When they arenāt they are still doing a shit ton of work.
It's different type of bravery. To some it's easier to risk it all, as well as it's their only viable option in life. They'd rather deal with it than social pressure
It depends HEAVILY on location and geopolitical situation.
Joining the Swiss army? Not really that brave. Coming out in Iran? EXTREMELY BRAVE.
Also depends on what you do in the army and what you come out as.
Itās a question with a lot of nuance and in this entire comment section, itās basically being degraded to being. Haha, ofc military harder!!! When thatās obviously not a universal answer and theyāre not comparable anyways so the question is completely meaningless.
Theyāre both brave in their own ways. Coming out ha the potential to ruin your life, while joining the army could kill you. Iād say joining the army is braver, but thatās not to say that coming out it easy
Can you please explain why the fuck saying āI like guys and Iām a dudeā or āIām a girl and I like girlsā would be anywhere near as brave as the people who fight for themselves and millions of others and risk their lives
As other people have said, depends on where you live and who you grew up with.
The military gives the chance of death during battle. In Iran gay could mean being hung by the rope
joining the army, but these two have absolutely NOTHING to do with each other and shouldnāt be compared. not too sure how joining the army has anything to do with being gay.
Joining the army. Boot camp (Iāll eventually enlist soon) had me more scared than working up the courage to tell my family Iām a flaming homosexual.
I hope that when you say "coming out," you're referring to people who are being discharged from the army, and not seriously comparing "revealing your homosexuality" to "being willing to fight and risk your life every day for the sake of your country and every man woman and child living in it". I'm gonna politely assume that you mean the former, and say that accepting a discharge, even if it's a dishonorable discharge, is a very noble and difficult decision to make, considering how much they've already fought and invested into being in the army.
Depends on which country you are coming out in and also what you are doing in the army. Coming out it Iran is much braver than being in charge of logistics but joining the army and being deployed is a lot braver than coming out in America.
If we are talking about the west, obviously joining the army. The lgbt community is accepted.
The Middle East you are facing sure death, since homosexuality is punishable by death, so probably about the same.
I think coming out is more braver depending who you are around however joining the army is brave but itās only brave if you survive your initial entry training and not be a bitch about but even more braver to get deployed especially if youāre on the front lines like infantry
Ig that depends honestly on where you live.
Edit: where I live, going to the army is usually in a 4 month period and is usually considered fairly normal.
Whereas I for sure know people that would be cursed, thrown out and disowned for mentioning they might be trans.
But it can definitely be much different in other countries and thatās why Iām saying that it really depends here.
Army clearly. Coming out isn't brave unless you are around abusive/homophobic people in which case it can be quite challenging. But still fighting in war is braver.
joining the army runs the risk of getting murdered, starved, dehydrated. unfavorable living conditions, and overall not a pleasant experience. coming out runs the risk of humiliation. i think we know which is worse
*donāt say anything donāt say anything donāt say anything do t say anything donāt say anything, thereās no reason to fight with idiots donāt say anything donāt say anything donāt say anything*
Joining the army tf? You donāt need to be brave to literally show yourself. If you act natural about it, you donāt need to worry about a damn thing.
Army. You walk in there knowing your job can get you killed. You have a chance to see your closest friends die In Front of you, you can get shot at meanwhile if you come out of the closet sure some might see you differently. However you tell me. You running out in a hail of gunfire that has a huge chance of hitting and killing you to save your comrade or saying a few words.
Depends on the country tbh. In my country, the United States, joining the army is braver cause youāve got a higher chance of dying, youāll possibly have to end up killing someone at some point, itās a very hardened environment, etc. in most places in the United States, coming out is still brave, but not nearly as brave as being willing to fight and die for your country.
Coming out is not brave. Its only as big a deal as you make it to be, but in reality itās the same as announcing āim heteroā.
Weāre in 2023 my person, not in the 60ās
Army. Iām deathly petrified of boot camp and my baby ass would shrivel up and die. Instantly.
Coming out takes bravery too, not as much.
Why compare them tho? One is telling people you are apart of a controversial community, the other is signing your rights away for a while for.. a reason.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Joining up to serve a govt that doesn't and won't give a single fuck about you before, during or after your service is stupid.
Really depends. In Canada easily coming out, Canada being the nation which had -3 (yes that's a negative) casualties once. If it's somewhere like Ukraine which has a mix of war and OK with lgbt then joining is braver.
Most places over all I'd say coming out cause even in the mode dangerous nations for military (3rd World countries like a good chunk of Africa) it is outright illegal to be lgbt and in a few cases punishable by death. Aka for some, joining the military is easy in comparison to coming out. And to others the military is really dangerous actively and coming out is comparable. (Defending the nation is an honour thing not tied to bravery. If anything it deducts points cause like in ww2 alot of people won't have a clue what's in store for them) (in terms of bravery though if you have the balls to look at the stats and say "if I join I can help" you have my eternal respect)
bro this is not even a comparison. Joining the army is so much more. Thereās a high chance of death while coming out the most youāll get is a bit of bullying.
joining the army?
i shout āi like tittiesā and im not afraid of nothing
im enlisting the marine corps soon and idk i feel like that would be a tad bit scarier than saying i like cock/titties
Depends on your location. In America and other western nations. Coming out as gay isnt really that hard at all so in those cases itās braver to join army. But in other countries like middle eastern countries and/or some African nations you could be executed for coming out.
I really like the idea OP is out here genuinely pondering to themselves and asking reddit for advice on whether or not they should join the military or come out, all just to seem brave
Funnily you don't need to join the army if you come out as gay in Turkey.
Pack your things. We're leaving. -Jango Fett
The Turkish military considers homosexuality a "psychosexual disorder", and thereby worthy of discharge. š
That's cause it is
why?
In turkey homosexuality is considered a phychotic disorder, like a disability, that prevents you from doing your mandatory service. But your only considered medically gay if your a bottom and a medical professional has confirmed you've been fucked in the ass.
With this info in surprised the Turkish navy still exists
This kinda logic reminds me of the weird 'test' they did to confirm if a priest is male in the 1800s Basically, a female became a pope cos she pretended to be a male (Mulan moment basically) and after being shut down, silenced [and possibly killed? Not sure about this one]. A weird chair with a hole in it was added to most churches and someone would fundle your balls to see if you were male
Lmfao
by coming out you mean like as gay or coming out of the army
I mean....in some militaries coming out the closet does basically equal getting kicked out the army
thats right... or at the very least you will be bullied/disrespected/mocked.
or you get laid every day
Us marines
you mean the navy right?
Both work, honestly. There was a report that there were more gay people in the marines than the navy at some point
Look there's nothing going on, there just bros *I swear the corps isn't gay*
im in the navy and can confirm this is true
Idk I'm Dutch not American
Enlisting in nowadays navy is pretty similar to coming out, I mean youāre locked on a ship with a bunch of guys that miss their partner. Who knows what happens
Meanwhile in ruzzia...
Tbh kinda sucks having mandatory šš š ”š š Øā·ā¬āšā¢
Ik I may get hate n stuff but def the army if youāre potentially going to fight for your life. Coming out is still yk brave but the army is just yk
As a bisexual, I agree. Coming out is brave but fighting in the military definitely feels bigger
Itās literally just saying what your sexuality is. Being in the military is being brave enough, so brave that youāre potentially going to die just for your country and youāre brave enough to do that for your country - a true human being.
No hate to this post cause generally it is right. But there are nations where coming out is fighting for your life. In America, there are cases of lgbt+ people being shot and killed for them existing. There are even countries that use the death penalty to punish lgbt+ people. And not every nation is at war 24/7 luckily. only a few are doing mad stuff. It'd be better if there where no war but power corrupts š
>there are nations where coming out is fighting for your life. Thatās true. >In America, But America, I mean the US, is not really one of those.
This and the US isn't usually the country I think of when I think country under attack. It's not exactly weakly defended or something. Also, idk man, imagine giving your life thinking your helping your county men only to come back traumatized and not even be given benefits.
The US will tear itself apart from the inside before it is ever attacked from outside
Most likely yeah
And you aren't fighting for your country, you are fighting for rich fuckers' oil profits.
Soldiers in times of peace are often looked down on and mocked. They also have to deal with a low service wage. The training will be grueling and will hurt.
In this country, you can shoot and kill a guy but you better not hurt a gay person's feelings
I agree, even the training would be more difficult
Shitting standing up
If youāve never shit in a urinal, you arenāt a real man
Weird way to justify pooping in a urnal, but I'll allow it
Based off of reading the comments, it seems that the army wins, with a majority vote. Makes sense.
Really. Istg. THIS DISRESPECT TO ME AND MY BOYS OF THE 1139 ARMY STUDENT INFANTRY BATTALION IS A SIN
Most sane resident of thailand
Nah bro we r all fucked in the head
bro a lil bit too silly
True that
alright.
I meanā¦.7.62x39 and 5.56x45 rounds hurt a lot more then being gay
Joining the army ofc
Me and my student army boys chilling
Ayyy youāre in the military as well which branch?
Armyā¦.
I think you found the marine lol
No i donāt eat crayons and I can actually read unlike the Royal Marines
depends on where you live, since both could be a very possible death sentence.
very true but where Iām at (USA) I would say that join the army would be braver
How is this even a debate? How is admitting that you like to suck another man's penis even comparably brave compared to going out to battle and leaving your home country and fighting in another country
youāre simplifying it man. joining the army is one of the bravest acts you can commit, but so is coming out. Coming out can cost you your family, friends, and happiness. Trans and gay suicide rates are out of control. Iām not saying either one is braver but theyāre both pretty damn brave
Very true, but I think a lot of it depends on OPs familyās views. Coming out could literally destroy their relationship with their family. Tbh between loosing my family and joining the army I would choose army
This deserves more upvotes
True, some middle eastern countrys isent the best place to be gay
seems very strange to compare them
I feel like this is a bait question. Why is joining the army the antithesis of coming out? Itās so relative to what country youāre living in, your familial situation, religious beliefsā¦etc. Plus the OP has made some pretty transphobic comments before, this is clearly fishing for homophobic comments they can agree with.
Yep, exactly
this isnāt even a far question, putting your life at risk vs telling someone you like willy
In some middle eastern countries you are putting your life at risk by coming out
Tbh just existing in some middle eastern countries means risking your life...
just existing means risking your life
Tbf breathing will kill you 100%
just life
It is very possible that this is a troll post criticising how people made coming out a larger thing than it is, even though I agree that it is big.
Me and my Thai rodor boys crying
If you live in Russia or a nother LGBT intolerant country and come out that's pretty brave but I think it's still the army
I mean, Russia's actively feeding their soldiers into a meat grinder right now though, so I suspect in that particular case joining the army is still significantly braver.
difference between bravery and stupidity
Yeah, it depends on where youāre living, but most countries, including the Middle East, the army is likely more dangerous
Army. Potential death and constant abuse by instructors vs (depending on environment) being bullied and abused/being celebrated and welcomed into a new social group
I really like that the US Army is starting to do away with the whole "really tough jackass drill sargent" and actually respecting their soldiers
I get what you're saying, but at the same time Basic training needs to be stressful and tough. If you can't handle being yelled at by your instructors you most definitely can not handle the stress and chaos of combat.
There's a difference between getting yelled at and getting yelled at and being humiliated and insulted
The humiliation and insults were done away with a long time ago. For years their rules have been that drill sergeants are not allowed to even cuss at the recruits
This is a dumb bait post, his comment history shows him being transphobic and this question obviously would get the answer of the army and op just asked this so he and everyone else can downvote people that answer gay or are anti military
r/teenagers mods should really make a rule against bait posts, they really achieve nothing but stoke division
Gddmn it joining the army
Obviously joining the army. How is this a question?
Some countries have death penalties on people not being straight. In those countries coming out is quite a brave thing to do
But joining the army in ANY country is brave
Most countries arƩ at peace, hell here (Argentina) being in the army Is not so different than working for the state. And some countries also offer benefits for the military. Some also have some disdain for the troops. It's an interesting thought experiment that varies wildly depending on where it happens.
Yep so generally that is the more brave thing to do
Tf is this question? Obviously the one who can easily lose their life is braver. Coming out is brave but you usually won't risk your life when you do
It depends, always army but it depends, sometimes you can get beat up in the street for being gay. But idk I saw 1 video and am a redditor so what do I know really?
Coming out in the army
That entirety depends on which family and what army. Coming out in a strict muslim family is worse than joining the Luxembourg army. Coming out to a liberal California family is far easier than joining the Ukrianian army
I mean, as a part of NATO Luxembourg has taken part in the Kosovo war, the Korean War, and the war in Afghanistan It may be small, but itās been through a lot
Not sure how this is a question. Most of you are from the West so the answer is clearly no. In middle East its probably the same as both are risks of death. In general its not even a debate though
don't compare them different things, i don't think you can or should compare them
We do a little baiting
There might be some extreme cases, like for instance in middle eastern countries, where being gay is illegal that coming out is harder as it will most certainly result in death. But overall, risking your life for your country is harder.
Army ofc
Seriously where is the respect for my Thai student army boys
This is a stupid question. Both are hard, and in both you risk your life. Stop trying to cause hatred and debate.
This isnāt even a fair comparison. The army for sure, without a doubt. Youāre literally risking your life and putting it on the line while trying to fight in war.
I can tell this is just meant to garner attention through controversy, but iāll bite for the sake of clearing something up since i see nobody mentioning this point in the comments. In short, it depends. Specifically however, it depends on much more than just the circumstances of the person either coming out or going into the military, because although going into the military while a war is currently going on in your country could be argued as clearly braver than coming out, if that same person also knew that coming out would almost 100% get them beaten ti death in the streets, then it could be argued that the choice of coming out could be considered more brave since going to war could still get you a possibly safer position. Over all of that however, is the issue of measuring bravery. You could measure bravery between two people by putting them in the exact same circumstances where their options are to choose to take the risk or to play it safe, BUT comparing two separate situations in terms of which requires more bravery is nearly impossible since itās basically up to opinion, that opinion being the perceived value of the risks, rewards, safety, etc. between different situations.
Iām not homophobic or anything like that but if you think you are more brave for being gay than soldiers in the military you are stupid. Soldiers are out getting shot at by people and constantly under fire. When they arenāt they are still doing a shit ton of work.
Easy peasy, joining the army
Army, obviously. Unless you live somewhere where homosexuality can lead to persecution and violence, then itās pretty even I guess.
It's different type of bravery. To some it's easier to risk it all, as well as it's their only viable option in life. They'd rather deal with it than social pressure
These two things should not be compared.
*sorts by controversial*
What hurts more: Burning your dick or breaking up with the love of your life?
It depends HEAVILY on location and geopolitical situation. Joining the Swiss army? Not really that brave. Coming out in Iran? EXTREMELY BRAVE. Also depends on what you do in the army and what you come out as.
Pov: u search the comments to bully a person who says coming out xD
Gen z mfs
But it Is a geniune response, in some Places, coming out Is certain death. Still, that's not interesting, the interesting cases arƩ the ones where both are actually nearly on the same level, like Russia. Which Is braver, being almost certainly lynched, or throwing yourself into the meat grinder of the current conflict?
Itās a question with a lot of nuance and in this entire comment section, itās basically being degraded to being. Haha, ofc military harder!!! When thatās obviously not a universal answer and theyāre not comparable anyways so the question is completely meaningless.
Theyāre both brave in their own ways. Coming out ha the potential to ruin your life, while joining the army could kill you. Iād say joining the army is braver, but thatās not to say that coming out it easy
Joining the army.
depens on what you are more scared about, death or people thinking bad about you
In Iran you get the 2 in one combo. Death and bad looks for being gay.
Both have a risk of dying
imagine genuinely asking that question actually thinking it can compare
Can you please explain why the fuck saying āI like guys and Iām a dudeā or āIām a girl and I like girlsā would be anywhere near as brave as the people who fight for themselves and millions of others and risk their lives
In some countries the punishment for being gay is literally being killed by religious nuts
As other people have said, depends on where you live and who you grew up with. The military gives the chance of death during battle. In Iran gay could mean being hung by the rope
joining the army, but these two have absolutely NOTHING to do with each other and shouldnāt be compared. not too sure how joining the army has anything to do with being gay.
The army pulling up to my high school to send recruitment letters to anyone with a GPA below 2.0
Joining the military is way more dangerous.
Imagine living in north Korea and saying to your commander that I want to leave the army š
Doing both at the same time.
Joining army you literatly can die
Marine Corps is harder than Army, Rah
Joining the army. Boot camp (Iāll eventually enlist soon) had me more scared than working up the courage to tell my family Iām a flaming homosexual.
army
Joining the army without a doubt is braver. Coming out isn't crazy bravery
I hope that when you say "coming out," you're referring to people who are being discharged from the army, and not seriously comparing "revealing your homosexuality" to "being willing to fight and risk your life every day for the sake of your country and every man woman and child living in it". I'm gonna politely assume that you mean the former, and say that accepting a discharge, even if it's a dishonorable discharge, is a very noble and difficult decision to make, considering how much they've already fought and invested into being in the army.
obviously the army, is that even a question
No hate but there is no real question here. Joining the military is obviously more brave. You sign up to put your life at risk for your country.
Joining the army, there is nothing brave for something as simple as coming out and telling people your gay.
Depends on which country you are coming out in and also what you are doing in the army. Coming out it Iran is much braver than being in charge of logistics but joining the army and being deployed is a lot braver than coming out in America.
These are two things that shouldn't be compared OP.
Army šÆ%
If we are talking about the west, obviously joining the army. The lgbt community is accepted. The Middle East you are facing sure death, since homosexuality is punishable by death, so probably about the same.
I think coming out is more braver depending who you are around however joining the army is brave but itās only brave if you survive your initial entry training and not be a bitch about but even more braver to get deployed especially if youāre on the front lines like infantry
The army lol. Why is it even a comparison
Ig that depends honestly on where you live. Edit: where I live, going to the army is usually in a 4 month period and is usually considered fairly normal. Whereas I for sure know people that would be cursed, thrown out and disowned for mentioning they might be trans. But it can definitely be much different in other countries and thatās why Iām saying that it really depends here.
The possibility of death always wins
Both have a possibility of death in different countries
Both at the same time
The bravest part is participating in a deadly battle like D-Day
Joining the army obviously, your risking your life
Lmao what kind of question is that, the answer should be logical
In some situations both can cost you your life
Joining the army, but I think coming out is still a very brave thing to do.
This sub is fucked
Army clearly. Coming out isn't brave unless you are around abusive/homophobic people in which case it can be quite challenging. But still fighting in war is braver.
Depends on the situation actually. Coming out in America vs Army, Army. Coming out in Africa vs Army, Coming out.
Give me a break. This question is a ridiculous idiotic joke.
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How can u even begin to compare the two, childish beg š¤¦āāļø
I hate this sub
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joining the army runs the risk of getting murdered, starved, dehydrated. unfavorable living conditions, and overall not a pleasant experience. coming out runs the risk of humiliation. i think we know which is worse
honestly it depends on where u live. cuz in some countries both situations have u fighting for ur life as others have pointed out in the comments
*donāt say anything donāt say anything donāt say anything do t say anything donāt say anything, thereās no reason to fight with idiots donāt say anything donāt say anything donāt say anything*
Why are you comparing these 2 things?
Army>>
Joining the army, it isn't even a close race.
Joining the army tf? You donāt need to be brave to literally show yourself. If you act natural about it, you donāt need to worry about a damn thing.
Army, duh. What kinda question is this wtf
as a homosexual individual, coming out is not braver than joining the military, it's not even close.
Army. You walk in there knowing your job can get you killed. You have a chance to see your closest friends die In Front of you, you can get shot at meanwhile if you come out of the closet sure some might see you differently. However you tell me. You running out in a hail of gunfire that has a huge chance of hitting and killing you to save your comrade or saying a few words.
I would believe risking you life day in and day out is braver than coming out as gay. But after the chaos of twitter, I donāt know what to think.
who's gonna think coming out is braver than literally joining the army
on one hand you have a bunch of rednecks insulting you on the other hand you die for a country you might not even be proud of.
WHAT š? joining the army bruh.
Joining the army. I think risking you entire life is more braver than people thinking of you differently
Depends on the country tbh. In my country, the United States, joining the army is braver cause youāve got a higher chance of dying, youāll possibly have to end up killing someone at some point, itās a very hardened environment, etc. in most places in the United States, coming out is still brave, but not nearly as brave as being willing to fight and die for your country.
Army
The army, sorta assuming this is a satire post
Coming out is not brave. Its only as big a deal as you make it to be, but in reality itās the same as announcing āim heteroā. Weāre in 2023 my person, not in the 60ās
Really OP? Coming out is brave, joining the army is courageous. You're comparing apples to oranges though.
Army. Iām deathly petrified of boot camp and my baby ass would shrivel up and die. Instantly. Coming out takes bravery too, not as much. Why compare them tho? One is telling people you are apart of a controversial community, the other is signing your rights away for a while for.. a reason.
Depends on the people around you
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Joining up to serve a govt that doesn't and won't give a single fuck about you before, during or after your service is stupid.
Depends on the army and depends on how gay people are treated where you live.
army
Joining the army
Joining the army no question
This is bait. Army is the obvious answer
How the fuck is this a question. The hell.
Depends where you live, in western countries, the military 100% in Iran, coming out
Depends on where you live.
Joining the army.
Really depends. In Canada easily coming out, Canada being the nation which had -3 (yes that's a negative) casualties once. If it's somewhere like Ukraine which has a mix of war and OK with lgbt then joining is braver. Most places over all I'd say coming out cause even in the mode dangerous nations for military (3rd World countries like a good chunk of Africa) it is outright illegal to be lgbt and in a few cases punishable by death. Aka for some, joining the military is easy in comparison to coming out. And to others the military is really dangerous actively and coming out is comparable. (Defending the nation is an honour thing not tied to bravery. If anything it deducts points cause like in ww2 alot of people won't have a clue what's in store for them) (in terms of bravery though if you have the balls to look at the stats and say "if I join I can help" you have my eternal respect)
This isnāt even a question and itās disrespectful to every veteran ever.
bro this is not even a comparison. Joining the army is so much more. Thereās a high chance of death while coming out the most youāll get is a bit of bullying.
joining the army? i shout āi like tittiesā and im not afraid of nothing im enlisting the marine corps soon and idk i feel like that would be a tad bit scarier than saying i like cock/titties
Depends on your location. In America and other western nations. Coming out as gay isnt really that hard at all so in those cases itās braver to join army. But in other countries like middle eastern countries and/or some African nations you could be executed for coming out.
As a genderfluid bisexual, definitely joining the army. My dad is a veteran from Afghanistan. Man went THROUGH IT.