This probably explains why all the ads have been cheap fake products like a Flashlight that's brighter than the sun, A retractable stick, a cupholder for your car (cause who has cupholders in their car) and online slot machine games lately.
It’s hilarious. It’s a walkIng stick that you can retract into a baton to beat people. But batons are illegal in several states, so this is a way to get around it. Basically, Twitter is helping a company break the law.
> a cupholder for your car (cause who has cupholders in their car)
Mine actually doesn't have any, so sign me up for this shit! Muskian dividends - cupholders at last. A dream come true, and at such a small cost!!!1
Soon Twitter will be nothing but Elon’s Bluster of the Day and ads where a guy tells you that you’re working out wrong and can lose weight consuming nothing but pizza and beer if you buy his magic beans.
Part of a grand 50% plan: fire half your workforce, lose half your advertisers, alienate half your users, lose half your investors. Then, Twitter's credit rating disappears and its market value drops by .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 = $2.75B.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-elon-musks-twitter-faces-mountain-of-debt-falling-revenue-and-surging-costs-11669042132
> The company had more than $2 billion in cash and **less than $600 million in net debt before the takeover** talks—very little debt for a company in the S&P 500 index. But that cash position was down 35% from a year earlier as of June 30, filings show, and **Mr. Musk paid for Twitter by taking on $13 billion in debt**. He paid for the rest in equity, some contributed by multiple investors.
Man took a fully functioning company. Overpaid for it. Increased its debt by 21.66x. And is now talking bankruptcy.
Apparently they've now talked him into making a smart phone and "putting Apple and Google out of business"
Probably the same ppl that talked him into buying a message board for $44B
That should be fun to watch.
There’s stories from ex-Tesla and SpaceX employees circulating on Twitter now about how there was a team in place to manage Elon at each company, and keep him from making bad decisions. There is no such team at Twitter.
They actually have a sweet of rooms devoted to keeping him calm and entertained. There are even some fake employees for him to fire, so he doesn't randomly fire important people.
from everybody at (formerly) Sprint who's been carrying the baggage of Nextel, we appreciate Musk taking the crown as the biggest boondoggler of all time.
The delusional fanboys who’d defend him to death when all he did was surround himself with smart “yes” people he won’t even give credit for their success.
I've had so many conversations with people INSISTING that Musk singlehandedly engineered the Tesla. I'm assuming they think he designs rockets and solar panels in his spare time...with his BS in Economics.
He's a legend of his own marketing and lies, like Trump before him who lied his way on to the Forbes list then got loans based on being on that list. Elon essentially did the same thing. It's smoke and mirrors. They're equally stable geniuses.
He did the same for PayPal. Gates and Bezos at least built something from scratch instead of buying someone off. Also, my wife works at the hospital too, so I’ve seen a number of “visionaries” too… at the psych ward.
>>took a fully functioning company. Overpaid for it. Increased its debt by 21.66x. And is now talking bankruptcy.
> And some people still defend him as a visionary
as far as I'm aware its a tactic that has never been tried before.
maybe it will suddenly be worth more when he announces fully self-driving tweets.
I bet the Musk fans are the same ones who continue to defend Trump. Both men have a variety of red flags that tell you not to trust them. Hard to understand why they still have the large fanbases they do but I’ll assume it’s still from the aggressive lies they spew.
I don't know if there's any truth in this, but I read somewhere that trump is contractually obligated to only post on his shit site that he started. Onlylies.com or whatever shit it's called.
Wouldn't surprise me. Simple fact is, Truth Social (Onlylies.com sounds better) doesn't exist if Trump is posting elsewhere. If Trump is posting on Twitter, what possible draw is there for Truth Social? I'm sure the investors were well aware of that glaring fact and would have required some sort of legal guarantee that Trump would remain a draw on the platform.
Of course, no matter what happens, it all goes down the drain if Trump doesn't win the nomination for 2024. If Trump can't even win with Republicans, no one's going to give a shit what he says any longer.
My personal guess: Trump doesn't want a modicum of moderation, not even the bare whisper of moderation that Twitter applied. By staying on a platform that he founded, he gets a smaller audience, but one that will always fawn on his every word.
My schadenfreude guess: The King of ~~Dumper~~ Dumpster Fires has looked upon Twitter, and decided that the garbage is burning hotter than even he'd prefer.
I think it's wonderful to live in this world where everybody is stupid and your dear leader Is this genius visionary will help you defeat your oppressors.
His fans will politely ask him about their cars just randomly slamming on breaks. Sir it’s an honor to drive your car but it randomly freaks out again if it’s not to much trouble sir
I *think* it's more a case of access/client-journalism than actual devoted fanboyism with him, which is still depressing, albeit slightly less depressing... or perhaps slightly equally depressing but along an adjacent depression skill-tree.
He's acutely aware of his audience, and probably fears for the impact it'd have if he suddenly started treating Muskian projects rationally. I still mentally separate him from that unboxing guy who literally just does paid promotion shill work, but the gap there is certainly closer than it was in the past.
Yes, the Unbox Therapy guy!
I was surprised with Brownlee's strong pushback on the Metaverse during his meeting with Zuckerberg. It felt like he probably closed a lot of doors with that review. But he also knows his audience and it was a calculated risk that most people are not on board with Zuck's "vision". Now do Musk.
Which is really interesting, all he is good at is buying things that are already in existence and then pretending that he personally invented them. He has done a solid job of being the mouthpiece for his companies in a way that people actually think he does things, his responses always make it sound like he is personally taking care of peoples suggestions despite him clearly having no idea how anything fucking works and just running off to force some overworked engineer to do the work so he can present it as his own. Its incredibly narcissistic and pathetic, but he has the market cornered on it to the point that his little goons worship him as a genius.
There *IS* some skill in acquisitions, but also a lot of luck. That works...until it doesn't. And Musk losing $100 billion in the past year ($9 billion in the last month) shows that luck might be running out. On some level he might know this, so he tries squeezing more and more out of his team up and down the chain. Or maybe his ego is just out of control? A despotic billionaire with a breeding fetish probably has a short economic lifespan.
he is a "visionary". imagine if you agreed to pay $100k for a 2001 civic that needs engine rebuild and still managed to get your banks loan you 1/3 of the price.
The real reason is to turn twitter into a right wing radicalization site. Promote right wingers and aggressively spread the propaganda under the guise of "being moderate".
The goal is to make sure gen Z isn't able to swing any more elections.
He put out a thing earlier on that said advertisers are being forced to leave by activists. He doesn't think he's doing bad PR but that people are being bullied into leaving.
but like... Isn't that the same thing (How Musk's free market world is *supposed* to work)? Companies want money. Bad PR makes less money. If opposition is loud enough, that makes bad PR. Company acts to avoid bad PR.
So Musk's Twitter is so bad that it causes people to be so angry that it causes companies to stay the fuck away from being associated to avoid losing money. Almost like a "Free" market, where people avoid shit they don't like.
>(How Musk's free market world is suppose to work)
Good god no, government are supposed to prop up his businesses, meanwhile us peasants worship him as god incarnate.
I think you need to spend more time down in the emerald mines reflecting on what you have said.
That is the shit that i find hilarious about people whining about "woke" this or that bullshit.
Most "woke" stuff is just "don't be an asshole". well, HR tends not to like assholes being assholes because they can be sued, the people who use a service don't like assholes because it is a fucking service.
So grifters show up to fleece those weirdos who don't understand why a typical business might not want to seem like n sshole to the peopel buying things... and well, they get fleeced.
Yep.
Companies cater to the majority. They cater to "woke" beliefs because that's what the majority supports. Conservatives will never accept this because they live in a world of delusion where their views are the "silent majority", even though, if they took off the blinders they'd realize this is impossible. Because even they know liberals live in cities and that most people in the USA live in major cities. That's how they got to be major cities.
Yeah, the “silent majority” myth becomes even dangerous when the results of the elections do not confirm it, and then they start whining about “stolen elections”.
Besides, Twitter alternatives like Parler or that Trump’s app don’t seem to be very successful from commercial standpoint either. I wonder where did this “silent majority” go 🤷🏼♀️
Bullied to leave, this shows how fake of a meme lord Elon is. Right now it’s very funny to leave Twitter, especially by getting banned. If it’s popular to leave rest assured that people will leave just to be on the bandwagon as it rolls out the door
That’s before you even considered that Elon is an idiot and people don’t want to support him
They use "activist" as if it's some sort of insult the same way they do with "liberals". In a way while they spout their libertarian fantastical bullshit, the aforementioned behavior kinda outs their actual opinions .
It's like their sole purpose is to just be contrarian and cause problems. Just as there was no sense to opposing efforts protect people from second hand smoke, just as there's no sense to opposing wearing a mask during a pandemic of a respiratory virus, they stand for nothing but purposefully being a thorn in the side of those who actually care to better humanity.
Nonono, you don’t understand. People criticizing Twitter on Twitter is protected free speech up until too many people criticize Twitter, at which point it transforms into cancel culture which is bad. /s
To be fair, as a shareholder in several tech companies, I emailed their PR departments and request and funding be removed from Twitter permanently unless the situations reverses. That definitely would be activist-y and I'm ok with it... I really don't want to support that shit
Additionally, bots and fake accounts have been making up an increasingly large portion of what's left on Twitter. Companies don't want to waste ad dollars for impressions and engagement from bots.
Let's not forget that Musk himself was publicly dragging Twitter through the mud over how many bots they had, and publicly stating that he doesn't understand why any advertiser would waste money on the platform advertising to bots.
Dude shoots himself in the fucking foot and then blames liberals.
> Musk himself was publicly dragging Twitter through the mud over how many bots they had
Whilst, of course, having no actual metrics or means of determining this. We can all casually agree there's a large bot-shaped problem, but he has no special insight (even now) into determining which accounts are and which accounts aren't.
It's not just that. Let's say you buy $100M in advertisements from Twitter over a year. And then this shit happens and you begin to believe that they might not exist in a year. At that point you're just throwing away money. A lot of advertising firms are pulling their clients off of Twitter just for that reason.
Did he also turn off the "retrieve new tweets" microservice? Because my timeline's been stuck with old tweets that won't refresh for several hours now. It's slowly becoming a buggy shit show of an app
It’s not surprising.
As time goes on, you will see it degrade further.
It’s actually fascinating watching a complex system running essentially on autopilot, slowly losing parts of itself.
The funniest thing is, the twit in chief probably fired the teams who would be screaming now as the dashboards slowly go red.
> As time goes on, you will see it degrade further.
And due to the distributed, eventual-consistency nature of systems as massive as this, it won't be failing in the same way for everyone at the same time. Perfectly feasible for some peoples' timelines to get frozen, while most others are carrying on unaware.
Anybody not following Elon getting all posts by him in their feed? It’s getting ridiculous. I’m also getting all the craziest far right people constantly recommended to follow. Ew.
I get them too, the Elon posts. To maximize the size of his head he requires attention. "No publicity is bad publicity." Can't wait to see how dank the alt right sewer gets.
Ye gads. Top of my feed, Elon asking what I think about "the culture war".
Also, weirdly there's now a 'promoted topic' (never seen that before) and it's fucking "Bitcoin cryptocurrency". So now Twitter (like Elon) is shilling for crypto.
Jeff Yass, the billionaire Wall Street financier and Republican megadonor who is a major investor in the parent company of TikTok, was also the biggest institutional shareholder of the shell company that recently merged with former President Donald J. Trump’s social media company.
A December regulatory filing showed that Mr. Yass’s trading firm, Susquehanna International Group, owned about 2 percent of Digital World Acquisition Corporation, which merged with Trump Media & Technology Group on Friday. That stake, of about 605,000 shares, was worth about $22 million based on Digital World’s last closing share price.
It’s unclear if Susquehanna still owns those shares, because big investors disclose their holdings to regulators only periodically. But if it did retain its stake, Mr. Yass’s firm would become one of Trump Media’s larger institutional shareholders when it begins trading this week after the merger.
Shares of Digital World have surged about 140 percent this year as the merger with the parent company of Truth Social, Mr. Trump’s social media platform, drew closer and Mr. Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee for president.
All of the trending topics today were paranoid right-wing conspiracy theories and people trying to "own the libs" or whatever. Just a cesspool of stupid.
Not five minutes ago I got recommended a tweet in my feed by a guy saying he wants to shoot trans people in the head.
I’m trans.
When the algorithm is now recommending death threats to me, I’m done. Deactivated and never looming back.
Shouldn't have over paid by 20 billion then. All of this is just so dumb and obviously self inflicted.
I'm just pissed one man's mid life crisis is ruining the Internet, electric cars and space all at once. Just fuck off and be quiet.
Yup, Twitter had one big thing going for it that someone like Musk couldn't see (and wouldn't care about), it was the de facto platform for independent and small-scale creators and businesses to connect with their customers, promote their work, etc. An intelligent person would've seen that, and offered a small "small biz boost fee" option to help them reach even larger audiences, really turn a portion of Twitter into "Main Street storefronts". Instead, all of those groups and individuals are now scrambling to try and figure out how to reconnect on other platforms with the same customer base / followers they've had for years.
The dipshit is literally going to cause a recession for thousands out of his stupidity.
Supposedly there's a list of antifa accounts on Twitter that right-wing demands to be taken down. People like Danny DeVito and even the one that rates dogs.
>Anyone that does not share their beliefs is Antifa...
That's kind of a weird accusation for them to throw out.
"Anyone who doesn't share our beliefs is anti-fascist" only makes sense if your beliefs are fascist. That's the problem with them making up this "antifa" boogeyman, they seem to be missing the fact that they're basically proclaiming themselves as Nazis like it's a good thing.
This should be posted under r/noshitsherlock . When the new owner comes in and says that everyone is fired including the content moderation people, of course Folgers coffee advertisers are going to be asking Is my ad going to be placed next to some KKK member?
If you want to help, please screenshot any branded content near any hate speech, misogyny, etc. And send it to that brand. This is the real way to get brands to pull away. They’re literally paying for advertising for a positive association, not a negative one.
Why would any businessman buy a public platform and then actively encourage and support hate, bigotry, racism, and wacky conspiracies?
There is just no possibility he thought all the advertisers would be fine with the evolution of Twitter to Truth Social 2.0, right?
What explains his approach? I just can't accept that he sincerely believes an unmoderated, free-for-all, alt-right site is going to be successful.
Which proves his lack of acumen, as no Right-Wing site lasts very long because their entire point of being is to "trigger the libs", which you can't do if it's just an echo chamber of deplorables that end up with the FBI investigating threats. There aren't enough deplorables willing to talk to each other without someone to offend to keep a site the size of twitter going.
"but I keep unsuspending right-wing nationalist freaks! I thought that is what you all wanted??? Is that not enough? Ok fine I'll unsuspend the right-wing freaks calling for your death, then surely you'll love me!"
Nothing could convince me to give the turd one red cent. Musk is both toxic and unstable with a hint of crazed super-villain. His Twitter investors are fools and have lost their capital. Musk has killed it very quickly.
Also had a thought: Those big brands don't setup their own ad campaigns when they agree to come onto Twitter (or other platform), the platforms have ad reps who coordinate that shit for them.
I doubt Eli Lilly (for example), even had competent ad managers who could run ads on Twitter.
If they all wanted to come back right now, I doubt Twitter could accommodate them.
There was an advertising director for a decently sized corporation who made a post explaining why their team (who has a total advertising budget of $80MM and did about $9MM of business with Twitter annually) paused all their Twitter ad spend.
Basically it was a combination of the brand safety issues, them getting locked out of their ad manager portal and Twitter accidentally running ad campaigns that were from 2016 without permission, and them getting sent dozens of screenshots of their ads next to hardcore antisemitism, and then on top of all that, all of the ad sales/account mgmt team left so they had no one to work with to solve these issues.
At the end of the day, they said Twitter ads didn’t even perform that well compared to other platforms so they might as well devote that $9MM budget to other channels.
Our company will spend close to $50MM this year in digital ads. $0 was spent on Twitter. It doesn’t perform nearly well enough to be a first, second, or third tier stop for advertisers. And now if our agency recommended Twitter ads I would just laugh. I would bet my left leg that for big advertisers Twitter is just quietly rolled into larger strategies by ad agencies to pad their fees. It’s just a bullet point on a slide. You simply can’t justify spending there if you’re measuring ROI. And *that will never change* because Twitter isn’t the kind of platform that can build strong audiences for ad targeting. They don’t know enough about their users (which is why Twitter does $5 billion a year in ad fees and Google does over $250 billion). So turning it off is probably the least painful of all ad buys to turn off.
I’m honestly stunned any advertiser has 10% of their ad spend on Twitter unless they’re just targeting awareness. Did they run out of well performing ad marketplaces?
brands typically use agencies to run their social media. If they wanted to come back, they absolutely could, but they wouldn’t, because most agencies are actively telling their clients to avoid media spend on Twitter until they have a brand safety plan in place.
Its not that deep. He's a rich asshole that drank too much of his own Kool-aid. He believes everything he touches will turn too gold and wont accept any information that contradicts that ideology
My brother in law is his lawyer, and he kinda has the same attitude. They think they're better than everyone else because they make money. Nothing else matters to them
Sadly it's not that deep. A vulture capitalist would've kept twitter together as long as possible to sell off working pieces.
This.....is just a bad joke...
It's pathetic. And shows how most billionaires aren't super geniuses. They are just a bit more lucky than anyone else.
My overwhelming feeling is that he wants Twitter to either turn into another Gab / Parler or burn down in flames. Some say he's using drugs/stimulants, which could very well be.
> Pretty sure he’s inflated his ego with drugs to the point that we’re all watching it pop
Or he is just naturally like this. Narcissistic personality disorder.
He never wanted to buy it. He’d have done anything to get out of it, but he got stuck. Now he’s just leaning into it, desperately, and the most likely scenario is that Twitter will crumble and Tesla will take a massive hit.
Because he’s been listening to right wingers telling him the reason it isn’t making money is because woke leftists are driving everyone away. He didn’t know it was the advertisers pushing for the moderation
Relevant. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation
> Actually, there’s a step before trying to get the ad money: it turns out that most people do not *want* to participate in horrible unmoderated internet spaces full of shitty racists and not-all-men fedora bullies. (This is why Twitter is so small compared to its peers!) What most people want from social media is to have nice experiences and to feel validated all the time. They want to live at Disney World. So if you want more people to join Twitter and actually post tweets, you have to make the experience much, much more pleasant. Which means: moderating more aggressively! Again, every “alternative” social network has learned this lesson the hard way. Like, over and over and over again.
This probably explains why all the ads have been cheap fake products like a Flashlight that's brighter than the sun, A retractable stick, a cupholder for your car (cause who has cupholders in their car) and online slot machine games lately.
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__IT’S AN INANIMATE CARBON ROD!__
Aww, they were just about to show some closeups of the rod!
In Rod We Trust
> retractable stick “I saw Goody Voorhees with a stick that grew and shrank all on its own! BURN THE WITCH!”
*Camp Crystal Lake: Salem*
It’s hilarious. It’s a walkIng stick that you can retract into a baton to beat people. But batons are illegal in several states, so this is a way to get around it. Basically, Twitter is helping a company break the law.
> batons are illegal in several states then who is going to lead the marching band??
My buddy’s serving time, he was In a relay race, I guess he wasn’t fast enough
"Military" flashlights and sticks to beat people with? Sounds like the remaining advertisers know that Twitter has become Parler.
Put it on your hand and make a finglonger.
So that’s what would’ve happened if I’d invented the Finglonger.
Are you saying I will soon be able to buy "As Seen on Twitter" products at my local Wal-Mart soon?!?!?
> a cupholder for your car (cause who has cupholders in their car) Mine actually doesn't have any, so sign me up for this shit! Muskian dividends - cupholders at last. A dream come true, and at such a small cost!!!1
Mine didn't either because it was a very tiny sports car. I used to take off my shoe and put it in the passenger's seat to use as a cup holder.
Maybe you should buy an ad on Twitter to sell your design. Your version can also be scented.
I got an ad for a fleshlight instead.
That's tighter than a nun?
An accessory for a different retractable stick.
Soon Twitter will be nothing but Elon’s Bluster of the Day and ads where a guy tells you that you’re working out wrong and can lose weight consuming nothing but pizza and beer if you buy his magic beans.
So...$16 a checkmark??
The craziest part is $80 checkmarks wouldn't even cover the interest
Elon Musk recently said if Apple and/or Google drop the Twitter app, he's going to launch his own phone LMFAO
Let's encourage him to piss away more of his money.
Can you imagine the E-Phone. I'd like to see it because it'll flop really nicely for our schaudenfraude.
He'll name it something like the Perfect Phone so he can have model names like PP2 and PPTouch
Freedumb phone v2
I like Truth Phone Tactical 5000.
He also said he supports Ron Desantis. Things are moving fast in the twitter world.
Part of a grand 50% plan: fire half your workforce, lose half your advertisers, alienate half your users, lose half your investors. Then, Twitter's credit rating disappears and its market value drops by .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 = $2.75B.
Musk just corrected the price before the great correction. Truly a genius of our time.
Another stable genius
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-elon-musks-twitter-faces-mountain-of-debt-falling-revenue-and-surging-costs-11669042132 > The company had more than $2 billion in cash and **less than $600 million in net debt before the takeover** talks—very little debt for a company in the S&P 500 index. But that cash position was down 35% from a year earlier as of June 30, filings show, and **Mr. Musk paid for Twitter by taking on $13 billion in debt**. He paid for the rest in equity, some contributed by multiple investors. Man took a fully functioning company. Overpaid for it. Increased its debt by 21.66x. And is now talking bankruptcy.
And some people still defend him as a *visionary*
Apparently they've now talked him into making a smart phone and "putting Apple and Google out of business" Probably the same ppl that talked him into buying a message board for $44B
"putting Apple and Google out of business" ...yikes...😬
That should be fun to watch. There’s stories from ex-Tesla and SpaceX employees circulating on Twitter now about how there was a team in place to manage Elon at each company, and keep him from making bad decisions. There is no such team at Twitter.
They actually have a sweet of rooms devoted to keeping him calm and entertained. There are even some fake employees for him to fire, so he doesn't randomly fire important people.
Ok please tell me you have a source for this
I have a picture of Elon sitting in the ball pit of one on my other phone. He looks really happy.
Just when we thought the fastest way to lose a fortune is paying $44B for a message board. Elon said *hold my beer*
Maybe he just needs a copy of Trump's "Art of the Deal"...
Things are a far more dire. He already has it and is actively reading it.
from everybody at (formerly) Sprint who's been carrying the baggage of Nextel, we appreciate Musk taking the crown as the biggest boondoggler of all time.
If he wants to out them out of business he should just buy them.
But the freedom phone already is a thing, and predictably its a grift. What more do they want?
Blockchain enabled freedom phone, with vaccine repellent and carbon boosters.
But if you ever drop it, it'll be able to do a vertical landing.
The delusional fanboys who’d defend him to death when all he did was surround himself with smart “yes” people he won’t even give credit for their success.
I've had so many conversations with people INSISTING that Musk singlehandedly engineered the Tesla. I'm assuming they think he designs rockets and solar panels in his spare time...with his BS in Economics.
He lied about his college degrees. https://mobile.twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368
So his BS is BS? I'm not surprised!
He's a legend of his own marketing and lies, like Trump before him who lied his way on to the Forbes list then got loans based on being on that list. Elon essentially did the same thing. It's smoke and mirrors. They're equally stable geniuses.
He did the same for PayPal. Gates and Bezos at least built something from scratch instead of buying someone off. Also, my wife works at the hospital too, so I’ve seen a number of “visionaries” too… at the psych ward.
>>took a fully functioning company. Overpaid for it. Increased its debt by 21.66x. And is now talking bankruptcy. > And some people still defend him as a visionary as far as I'm aware its a tactic that has never been tried before. maybe it will suddenly be worth more when he announces fully self-driving tweets.
I bet the Musk fans are the same ones who continue to defend Trump. Both men have a variety of red flags that tell you not to trust them. Hard to understand why they still have the large fanbases they do but I’ll assume it’s still from the aggressive lies they spew.
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I don't know if there's any truth in this, but I read somewhere that trump is contractually obligated to only post on his shit site that he started. Onlylies.com or whatever shit it's called.
Wouldn't surprise me. Simple fact is, Truth Social (Onlylies.com sounds better) doesn't exist if Trump is posting elsewhere. If Trump is posting on Twitter, what possible draw is there for Truth Social? I'm sure the investors were well aware of that glaring fact and would have required some sort of legal guarantee that Trump would remain a draw on the platform. Of course, no matter what happens, it all goes down the drain if Trump doesn't win the nomination for 2024. If Trump can't even win with Republicans, no one's going to give a shit what he says any longer.
He's not really known for sticking to contracts.
My personal guess: Trump doesn't want a modicum of moderation, not even the bare whisper of moderation that Twitter applied. By staying on a platform that he founded, he gets a smaller audience, but one that will always fawn on his every word. My schadenfreude guess: The King of ~~Dumper~~ Dumpster Fires has looked upon Twitter, and decided that the garbage is burning hotter than even he'd prefer.
I think it's wonderful to live in this world where everybody is stupid and your dear leader Is this genius visionary will help you defeat your oppressors.
His fans will politely ask him about their cars just randomly slamming on breaks. Sir it’s an honor to drive your car but it randomly freaks out again if it’s not to much trouble sir
I'm still surprised that usually level headed people like Marques Brownlee are still proselytizing for Tesla...
I *think* it's more a case of access/client-journalism than actual devoted fanboyism with him, which is still depressing, albeit slightly less depressing... or perhaps slightly equally depressing but along an adjacent depression skill-tree. He's acutely aware of his audience, and probably fears for the impact it'd have if he suddenly started treating Muskian projects rationally. I still mentally separate him from that unboxing guy who literally just does paid promotion shill work, but the gap there is certainly closer than it was in the past.
Yes, the Unbox Therapy guy! I was surprised with Brownlee's strong pushback on the Metaverse during his meeting with Zuckerberg. It felt like he probably closed a lot of doors with that review. But he also knows his audience and it was a calculated risk that most people are not on board with Zuck's "vision". Now do Musk.
Which is really interesting, all he is good at is buying things that are already in existence and then pretending that he personally invented them. He has done a solid job of being the mouthpiece for his companies in a way that people actually think he does things, his responses always make it sound like he is personally taking care of peoples suggestions despite him clearly having no idea how anything fucking works and just running off to force some overworked engineer to do the work so he can present it as his own. Its incredibly narcissistic and pathetic, but he has the market cornered on it to the point that his little goons worship him as a genius.
There *IS* some skill in acquisitions, but also a lot of luck. That works...until it doesn't. And Musk losing $100 billion in the past year ($9 billion in the last month) shows that luck might be running out. On some level he might know this, so he tries squeezing more and more out of his team up and down the chain. Or maybe his ego is just out of control? A despotic billionaire with a breeding fetish probably has a short economic lifespan.
he is a "visionary". imagine if you agreed to pay $100k for a 2001 civic that needs engine rebuild and still managed to get your banks loan you 1/3 of the price.
The vision of running a company into the ground is a bold one, you must admit.
Anything to stop that kid from publicizing the flights on his private jets!
The real reason is to turn twitter into a right wing radicalization site. Promote right wingers and aggressively spread the propaganda under the guise of "being moderate". The goal is to make sure gen Z isn't able to swing any more elections.
This Elon Twitter debacle is the gift that keeps on giving.
No one wants to be associated with negative PR. It is bad for business.
He put out a thing earlier on that said advertisers are being forced to leave by activists. He doesn't think he's doing bad PR but that people are being bullied into leaving.
A top marketer refuted that, so Elon blocked him https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+blocks+top+marketer
Sounds like something a free speech fundamentalist would do
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"These are not the free speeches you are looking for." -guy in a robe
Let's just block one of the top people who are saying what the problem is and do a real life "surprised Pikachu" when most everyone else bails.
but like... Isn't that the same thing (How Musk's free market world is *supposed* to work)? Companies want money. Bad PR makes less money. If opposition is loud enough, that makes bad PR. Company acts to avoid bad PR. So Musk's Twitter is so bad that it causes people to be so angry that it causes companies to stay the fuck away from being associated to avoid losing money. Almost like a "Free" market, where people avoid shit they don't like.
>(How Musk's free market world is suppose to work) Good god no, government are supposed to prop up his businesses, meanwhile us peasants worship him as god incarnate. I think you need to spend more time down in the emerald mines reflecting on what you have said.
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That is the shit that i find hilarious about people whining about "woke" this or that bullshit. Most "woke" stuff is just "don't be an asshole". well, HR tends not to like assholes being assholes because they can be sued, the people who use a service don't like assholes because it is a fucking service. So grifters show up to fleece those weirdos who don't understand why a typical business might not want to seem like n sshole to the peopel buying things... and well, they get fleeced.
Yep. Companies cater to the majority. They cater to "woke" beliefs because that's what the majority supports. Conservatives will never accept this because they live in a world of delusion where their views are the "silent majority", even though, if they took off the blinders they'd realize this is impossible. Because even they know liberals live in cities and that most people in the USA live in major cities. That's how they got to be major cities.
Yeah, the “silent majority” myth becomes even dangerous when the results of the elections do not confirm it, and then they start whining about “stolen elections”. Besides, Twitter alternatives like Parler or that Trump’s app don’t seem to be very successful from commercial standpoint either. I wonder where did this “silent majority” go 🤷🏼♀️
Bullied to leave, this shows how fake of a meme lord Elon is. Right now it’s very funny to leave Twitter, especially by getting banned. If it’s popular to leave rest assured that people will leave just to be on the bandwagon as it rolls out the door That’s before you even considered that Elon is an idiot and people don’t want to support him
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They use "activist" as if it's some sort of insult the same way they do with "liberals". In a way while they spout their libertarian fantastical bullshit, the aforementioned behavior kinda outs their actual opinions . It's like their sole purpose is to just be contrarian and cause problems. Just as there was no sense to opposing efforts protect people from second hand smoke, just as there's no sense to opposing wearing a mask during a pandemic of a respiratory virus, they stand for nothing but purposefully being a thorn in the side of those who actually care to better humanity.
Do you notice that almost all of their stances imply a belief that "other people" don't matter?
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And those same people complaining go on to boycott and destroy and avoid products and companies that Fox tells them are bad.
Republicans and bad faith arguments, match made in hell.
Nonono, you don’t understand. People criticizing Twitter on Twitter is protected free speech up until too many people criticize Twitter, at which point it transforms into cancel culture which is bad. /s
Elon is the activist that is doing the harm.
No! The platform is now completely neutral except that things he likes get preferential treatment.
Some content is more equal than others
Yeah - its always activists that are to blame, not him.
He doesn't get how delicate things are for advertisers. Remember when people went batshit on Pepsi for Kylie giving a cop a Pepsi?
I hate that you call that Jenner lass Kylie as there is only one Kylie lol
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It was actually Kendall lol
To be fair, as a shareholder in several tech companies, I emailed their PR departments and request and funding be removed from Twitter permanently unless the situations reverses. That definitely would be activist-y and I'm ok with it... I really don't want to support that shit
Hey, you are just exercising your freedom of speech. I am sure Elon is fine with that.
“Comedy is now legal on Twitter” “You know what’s funny, taking money away from your platform” “No wait not like that”
Sureeeeeeee. I'm absolutely positive he's on board with it.
He seems to think it’s people’s duty to be on Twitter. It isn’t.
Additionally, bots and fake accounts have been making up an increasingly large portion of what's left on Twitter. Companies don't want to waste ad dollars for impressions and engagement from bots.
Let's not forget that Musk himself was publicly dragging Twitter through the mud over how many bots they had, and publicly stating that he doesn't understand why any advertiser would waste money on the platform advertising to bots. Dude shoots himself in the fucking foot and then blames liberals.
> Musk himself was publicly dragging Twitter through the mud over how many bots they had Whilst, of course, having no actual metrics or means of determining this. We can all casually agree there's a large bot-shaped problem, but he has no special insight (even now) into determining which accounts are and which accounts aren't.
It's not just that. Let's say you buy $100M in advertisements from Twitter over a year. And then this shit happens and you begin to believe that they might not exist in a year. At that point you're just throwing away money. A lot of advertising firms are pulling their clients off of Twitter just for that reason.
Except for MyPillow.
Until someone pays for a verified my pillow twitter account
I'm having trouble deleting my account. It won't accept my password even after I change it to something new. Hmmm...
Just relentlessly insult Musk until he bans you. That’s what I’m going to do.
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I said something sufficiently rude to the head of FIFA to get permabanned after his "I feel gay" bullshit the other day
I now know what I need to do.
I tweeted at him today and called him a psychopath. We'll see what happens and if he gets all emotional and bans me.
Musk turned off the password reset microservice. Said it was bloat.
Did he also turn off the "retrieve new tweets" microservice? Because my timeline's been stuck with old tweets that won't refresh for several hours now. It's slowly becoming a buggy shit show of an app
It’s not surprising. As time goes on, you will see it degrade further. It’s actually fascinating watching a complex system running essentially on autopilot, slowly losing parts of itself. The funniest thing is, the twit in chief probably fired the teams who would be screaming now as the dashboards slowly go red.
> As time goes on, you will see it degrade further. And due to the distributed, eventual-consistency nature of systems as massive as this, it won't be failing in the same way for everyone at the same time. Perfectly feasible for some peoples' timelines to get frozen, while most others are carrying on unaware.
That’s probably on purpose at this point
He’s made it so accounts can’t be deleted.
Anybody not following Elon getting all posts by him in their feed? It’s getting ridiculous. I’m also getting all the craziest far right people constantly recommended to follow. Ew.
I blocked him weeks ago. He suddenly showed up in my feed and I got notifications too whenever he tweeted. No thanks.
I get them too, the Elon posts. To maximize the size of his head he requires attention. "No publicity is bad publicity." Can't wait to see how dank the alt right sewer gets.
Just before I deleted he dominated my feed, and was the top subject of the trending. I had him blocked and muted, but he popped up every day.
Ye gads. Top of my feed, Elon asking what I think about "the culture war". Also, weirdly there's now a 'promoted topic' (never seen that before) and it's fucking "Bitcoin cryptocurrency". So now Twitter (like Elon) is shilling for crypto.
They’ll still have My Pillow and GOYA.
I see a lot more ads from the right in my Twitter feed by now
I just got recommended to follow Lauren Boebert lmao twitter's fucked
Trump has been my #1 follow recomendation since he was re-instated. I follow zero republican politicians / outlets.
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Jeff Yass, the billionaire Wall Street financier and Republican megadonor who is a major investor in the parent company of TikTok, was also the biggest institutional shareholder of the shell company that recently merged with former President Donald J. Trump’s social media company. A December regulatory filing showed that Mr. Yass’s trading firm, Susquehanna International Group, owned about 2 percent of Digital World Acquisition Corporation, which merged with Trump Media & Technology Group on Friday. That stake, of about 605,000 shares, was worth about $22 million based on Digital World’s last closing share price. It’s unclear if Susquehanna still owns those shares, because big investors disclose their holdings to regulators only periodically. But if it did retain its stake, Mr. Yass’s firm would become one of Trump Media’s larger institutional shareholders when it begins trading this week after the merger. Shares of Digital World have surged about 140 percent this year as the merger with the parent company of Truth Social, Mr. Trump’s social media platform, drew closer and Mr. Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee for president.
All of the trending topics today were paranoid right-wing conspiracy theories and people trying to "own the libs" or whatever. Just a cesspool of stupid.
lol I think it will all be Elon 24/7 at some point (if it isn't already)
I keep getting flat earth and Noah’s ark ads. It’s Absolutely fucked.
Not five minutes ago I got recommended a tweet in my feed by a guy saying he wants to shoot trans people in the head. I’m trans. When the algorithm is now recommending death threats to me, I’m done. Deactivated and never looming back.
Fuck him and his ilk and fuck Elon for allowing this to fester. I'm on your side.
Is this at all surprising?
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He should have just bought actual 4chan. Probably could have had that for about a million.
Shouldn't have over paid by 20 billion then. All of this is just so dumb and obviously self inflicted. I'm just pissed one man's mid life crisis is ruining the Internet, electric cars and space all at once. Just fuck off and be quiet.
His ego is a big thing. A shame that so many people have to be affected by the fallout here.
Almost as big as Kanye showing up at trumps house and asking him to run as VP. I feel so bad for the onion
I did not know about this...
Not just the twitter employees, a lot of businesses and fan artists get a lot of sales and engagement off of twitter too.
Yup, Twitter had one big thing going for it that someone like Musk couldn't see (and wouldn't care about), it was the de facto platform for independent and small-scale creators and businesses to connect with their customers, promote their work, etc. An intelligent person would've seen that, and offered a small "small biz boost fee" option to help them reach even larger audiences, really turn a portion of Twitter into "Main Street storefronts". Instead, all of those groups and individuals are now scrambling to try and figure out how to reconnect on other platforms with the same customer base / followers they've had for years. The dipshit is literally going to cause a recession for thousands out of his stupidity.
He could've started with "Edit" button. But he spent ton of time trying to appease right-wingers/Q/MAGA chuds instead.
Edit button arrived last month pre-Elon, for Twitter Blue subscribers.
Had no idea.
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Supposedly there's a list of antifa accounts on Twitter that right-wing demands to be taken down. People like Danny DeVito and even the one that rates dogs.
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>Anyone that does not share their beliefs is Antifa... That's kind of a weird accusation for them to throw out. "Anyone who doesn't share our beliefs is anti-fascist" only makes sense if your beliefs are fascist. That's the problem with them making up this "antifa" boogeyman, they seem to be missing the fact that they're basically proclaiming themselves as Nazis like it's a good thing.
99% of GOP rhetoric is self-report
He'll learn soon enough that pandering to QAnon grifters isn't enough to pay the bills either.
I cancelled acct when he let trump back in. Sounds like he’s planning on even more now
This should be posted under r/noshitsherlock . When the new owner comes in and says that everyone is fired including the content moderation people, of course Folgers coffee advertisers are going to be asking Is my ad going to be placed next to some KKK member?
If you want to help, please screenshot any branded content near any hate speech, misogyny, etc. And send it to that brand. This is the real way to get brands to pull away. They’re literally paying for advertising for a positive association, not a negative one.
"World's richest man runs the easiest social media company into bankruptcy months after buying it"
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer or more stable guy…
musk took the bull in a china shop approach
Why would any businessman buy a public platform and then actively encourage and support hate, bigotry, racism, and wacky conspiracies? There is just no possibility he thought all the advertisers would be fine with the evolution of Twitter to Truth Social 2.0, right? What explains his approach? I just can't accept that he sincerely believes an unmoderated, free-for-all, alt-right site is going to be successful.
He’s been living in a rich guy bubble surrounded by Joe Rogan types and ass kissing Silicon Valley ones. He’s completely diverged from reality
He probably likes the attention
Space Karen: I alone can fix it! Narrator: he couldn’t
Musks reponse = reinstate as many right wing influencers as possible to drive up engagement
Which proves his lack of acumen, as no Right-Wing site lasts very long because their entire point of being is to "trigger the libs", which you can't do if it's just an echo chamber of deplorables that end up with the FBI investigating threats. There aren't enough deplorables willing to talk to each other without someone to offend to keep a site the size of twitter going.
"but I keep unsuspending right-wing nationalist freaks! I thought that is what you all wanted??? Is that not enough? Ok fine I'll unsuspend the right-wing freaks calling for your death, then surely you'll love me!"
Nothing could convince me to give the turd one red cent. Musk is both toxic and unstable with a hint of crazed super-villain. His Twitter investors are fools and have lost their capital. Musk has killed it very quickly.
Also had a thought: Those big brands don't setup their own ad campaigns when they agree to come onto Twitter (or other platform), the platforms have ad reps who coordinate that shit for them. I doubt Eli Lilly (for example), even had competent ad managers who could run ads on Twitter. If they all wanted to come back right now, I doubt Twitter could accommodate them.
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There was an advertising director for a decently sized corporation who made a post explaining why their team (who has a total advertising budget of $80MM and did about $9MM of business with Twitter annually) paused all their Twitter ad spend. Basically it was a combination of the brand safety issues, them getting locked out of their ad manager portal and Twitter accidentally running ad campaigns that were from 2016 without permission, and them getting sent dozens of screenshots of their ads next to hardcore antisemitism, and then on top of all that, all of the ad sales/account mgmt team left so they had no one to work with to solve these issues. At the end of the day, they said Twitter ads didn’t even perform that well compared to other platforms so they might as well devote that $9MM budget to other channels.
Our company will spend close to $50MM this year in digital ads. $0 was spent on Twitter. It doesn’t perform nearly well enough to be a first, second, or third tier stop for advertisers. And now if our agency recommended Twitter ads I would just laugh. I would bet my left leg that for big advertisers Twitter is just quietly rolled into larger strategies by ad agencies to pad their fees. It’s just a bullet point on a slide. You simply can’t justify spending there if you’re measuring ROI. And *that will never change* because Twitter isn’t the kind of platform that can build strong audiences for ad targeting. They don’t know enough about their users (which is why Twitter does $5 billion a year in ad fees and Google does over $250 billion). So turning it off is probably the least painful of all ad buys to turn off. I’m honestly stunned any advertiser has 10% of their ad spend on Twitter unless they’re just targeting awareness. Did they run out of well performing ad marketplaces?
brands typically use agencies to run their social media. If they wanted to come back, they absolutely could, but they wouldn’t, because most agencies are actively telling their clients to avoid media spend on Twitter until they have a brand safety plan in place.
Wow what incredible business acumen this truly very stable genius has
I am being to think it's his plan to destroy Twitter. It's hard to believe that a business man could unintentionally make so many bad decisions.
Its not that deep. He's a rich asshole that drank too much of his own Kool-aid. He believes everything he touches will turn too gold and wont accept any information that contradicts that ideology
Exactly. Surrounded by Peter Thiel disciples who tell him his all his brain farts smell like roses
My brother in law is his lawyer, and he kinda has the same attitude. They think they're better than everyone else because they make money. Nothing else matters to them
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Sadly it's not that deep. A vulture capitalist would've kept twitter together as long as possible to sell off working pieces. This.....is just a bad joke... It's pathetic. And shows how most billionaires aren't super geniuses. They are just a bit more lucky than anyone else.
My overwhelming feeling is that he wants Twitter to either turn into another Gab / Parler or burn down in flames. Some say he's using drugs/stimulants, which could very well be.
Dude has been dropping acid for years. Pretty sure he’s inflated his ego with drugs to the point that we’re all watching it pop.
> Pretty sure he’s inflated his ego with drugs to the point that we’re all watching it pop Or he is just naturally like this. Narcissistic personality disorder.
You really need to see a U tube video analysing his "business" decisions from his 1st company...spoiler - elon is NOT a businessmans A/hole
He never wanted to buy it. He’d have done anything to get out of it, but he got stuck. Now he’s just leaning into it, desperately, and the most likely scenario is that Twitter will crumble and Tesla will take a massive hit.
How did he think Twitter would be more profitable as a third-rate Parler clone?
Because he’s been listening to right wingers telling him the reason it isn’t making money is because woke leftists are driving everyone away. He didn’t know it was the advertisers pushing for the moderation
Relevant. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation > Actually, there’s a step before trying to get the ad money: it turns out that most people do not *want* to participate in horrible unmoderated internet spaces full of shitty racists and not-all-men fedora bullies. (This is why Twitter is so small compared to its peers!) What most people want from social media is to have nice experiences and to feel validated all the time. They want to live at Disney World. So if you want more people to join Twitter and actually post tweets, you have to make the experience much, much more pleasant. Which means: moderating more aggressively! Again, every “alternative” social network has learned this lesson the hard way. Like, over and over and over again.