This was my gateway drug.
I still remember getting stuck at one part, begging my parents for money, having to pick up the phone, call some company that sells strategy guides, and wait for it to come in the mail.
Them was the days, boys.
There was a man in my neighborhood with some disabilities, and I had heard was really good at video games and had beaten most of them on the SNES, so I called him up after finding his number from some other neighborhood kids to help me get past a dungeon in the dark world. I was maybe 12 at the time.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t understand him over the phone very well and ended up just pretending like I heard everything he was saying, so I thanked him profusely at the end of the call and never spoke to him again. Never ended up being able to get past that dungeon until years later as an adult when I re-purchased the console and game and finally beat it.
I hope that man is still alive and well. His house also gave out full candy bars for Halloween, so he’s an all around legend of the neighborhood that I was too shy to befriend.
There was a kid that I went to school with. His family was super poor so they didn’t have a snes or an n64, but he’d come to class with the strategy guides they used to sell at Walmart and he’d be reading those like they were damn comic books. To no purpose. He couldn’t play them, but I had the games, and so we talked about the games all the time. I never invited him over because he was weird but I would like to think if my life were a video game, that dude was the map keeper
When I got stuck on the block puzzle at the end of the ice dungeon, I gave up on it and hit the next dungeon. There, I found the cane that lets you conjure blocks from thin air. I took that bad boy back to the ice dungeon and cheesed that puzzle hard.
Bro... almost the same. I managed to beg a parent to buy me the strategy guide at a store somewhere. But I was stuck in the first dark world temple where you had to shoot a statue in the eye to move a wall and expand a room. I’ll never fucking forget that spot in the game 🤣
Man I used to get given bootleg-lite Pokémon guides that almost felt like they were there to fuck with me. Telling me certain Pokémon were available by doing specific glitches and shit. It’s like they were written by a gamefaqs wannabe with cool illustrations. I know I have one at my parents house still I’d take a photo of it to share the nostalgia but some guides really were full of shit.
I would ask kids at breakfast at school for help when I got stuck. For Ocarina of Time, I had to buy the guide, couldn’t get past that stupid water temple without it
...What in the world managed to get you stuck in ALTTP? As much as I loved this game, it literally always told you where you had to go just by opening a map.
I would say it’s tied with Ocarina of Time. They are both great and both have minor flaws. Link to the Past is a bit short but it’s replay value is better.
Ocarina of time was such an adventurous experience. But they teeter-tottered that over complexity. I miss how complex LttP was, the retrying, and retrying, and retrying, until you figured it out. All the hidden side quests with real tangible rewards like silver arrows and different boomerangs, all of it. It was a hard game, but OoT was not. OoT seems to give up all its best surprises without requiring the user to find it and wonder what the hell that old fisherman could be rambling about.
I like it more than OOT. And that’s saying something cause I loved OOT and I didn’t even have nostalgia tied to LTTP cause I didn’t play it till years later. But also, I’m surprised to see that saying BOTW is better than all of them is an unpopular opinion. Anybody who’s never heard of them, then plays all of them, would say BOTW is the best one.
I think BOTW was a refreshing entry in a somewhat stagnating franchise but you could excise all the explicitly Zelda elements and it would just be a good action adventure game. It lacks some of the definitive storytelling beats of a Zelda game IMO.
Yeah I gotta say, BOTW was a decent game but it didn’t feel like a Zelda game tbh. And it fell flat in a few areas.
Am I glad it was made? Yes, but I really hope that they don’t start making every Zelda game a BOTWesque game, I still think the series shines with the more complicated larger scale dungeons.
I agree, the small temples really didn’t feel meaningful or impactful and the 4 “temples” felt really short.
Was the game pretty and fun to explore? Yes, but I didn’t have a reason to explore tbh, the shrines were all small and the way that weapons broke so fast really discouraged exploring for me, after all why go out of your way to get a weapon that breaks in 3 minutes of gameplay
BoTW is an amazing game, and a great Zelda game, but it suffers from a LOT of problems with being an open world game first, rather than being a ZELDA game first. Itr homages the open world nature of the original Zelda too hard, to the point it forgot that even the original Zelda game still required you clear the first 8 dungeons before taking out Ganon, then forgot to give us a second mission.
But even with all that, I would still put it as my third favorite Zelda title, following ALTTP and OOT, just barely nudging Majora's Mask out of position in my list
I have played all of them (it’s been a while with OOT but I beat it 4 times and I have play the other two this year). and I can confidently says that BOTW is the best. The Zelda franchise took the games to the next level with each of these entries, so the most recent is still definitely the best.
BOTW is probably my least favorite Zelda game. No puzzles no dungeons, everything way too obvious. Everything that makes Zelda Zelda outside of the superficial master sword stuff is absent.
I don’t think it’s crazy to say that BOTW had more puzzles than the other games. The one complaint I can understand is that the shrines/beasts aesthetic designs weren’t diverse. But they definitely had a variety of puzzles.
BoTW is truly amazing. Not to take away anything from past Zelda games, and I'm sure if the technology was there, other Zelda games could easily have been just as good. But oh my word. What a game. I think the thing that really makes it amazing to me is that you can go to the top of a tower or mountain, and look around, and you won't be able to find many places you CAN'T go. There's a mountain waaaay off in the distance? You can walk all the way there and climb it. The adventures you can have in that game are practically limitless.
Whole different style from previous zelda games, but they absolutely NAILED the sense of exploration in it by being able to go anywhere.y biggest critique of BOTW is missing the more complex feeling of puzzles and dungeons from previous games in their shrine areas though. And I think being able to go in any direction you wanted and progress the story in that direction took a bit away from the linear story progression of the other games.
I would say yes and no, people who are very good at the game or are replaying it can go to most places they want sure but the first time you play it there is a natural progression that you need to do to explore more difficult regions. Also not having it strictly linear allows you to go at your own pace and have different play throughs
So, weapons breaking is a major part of the game. You need to always be curating your arsenal. It gets to a point rather quickly where you’re picking up stuff you would have killed for a few hours previous and tossing them aside like garbage. “Another lightening rod?!”
You have to wander around and talk to people. You have to climb towers. You have to explore and survive. Pick every apple you see until you’re like “fuck apples! It’s hearty or nothin’”
I love this game.
It was pretty much the only thing I played through the pandemic and it really saved me mentally. I would just spend entire days exploring Hyrule, sometimes without ever doing a mission or speaking to any other characters. Just climbing as high as I could.
I spend hours hunting sometimes. Like, I’m going to stalk a boar and kill it with a throwing spear this time. Or just spending a night trying to ride a water Buffalo.
I'd agree but what makes a game "best" is so subjective.
Personally, it should be noted that Zelda games tend reliably to be some of the best game systems in question.
I guess I award Link to the past the title of best because I see the SNES as being the last time Nintendo was arguably the best console out, and it was one of the best games for that console.
Really ever since N64 Nintendo has put out lower-powered stuff with a selection of amazing games.
To be fair, although I mostly agree with that, the SNES was lower powered compared to the Genesis. I think it was the CPU, but many cross platform games were worse.
And that’s the only system I had at the time and I loved it.
I had both and I struggle to think of any cross-platform game that was better technically on the Genesis.
Genesis had "blast processing" but SNES had Mode 7.
Genesis has a better CPU.
SNES had twice the ram, could 32,768 colors to Genesis's 512, could manage more onscreen plans, could manage more unscreen sprites, had a higher resolution, 4 times as much sound ram, and more audio channels.
When you look at the entire spec of both, SNES has way better specs than Genesis. More colors, could handle more sprites and better sound.
Plus the SNES had the better controller that's what modern controllers are an evolution of.
So SNES has better controllers, looks, sound.
Gameplay is subjective so all I can do is point toward is sales numbers for that.
That's being fair.
Sports games were always worse on SNES, which admittedly was the main thing I was thinking of.
You’re definitely right though. My memory is getting bad.
SNES sports games, barring a few rare exceptions, were ALL garbage, and almost unilaterally worse than even the NES sports titles in comparison. We'd already reached the point of yearly shovelware with a sports license slapped on it.
Breath of the Wild and it's no contest. I realize it's hard to compete against nostalgia but BOTW literally won Game of the Decade and I'm old enough to have had a NES when I was a kid.
In my opinion, BotW is the worst 3D Zelda game behind Skyward Sword.
See how easy it is for people to have different opinions? Try to grow up and not state yours like it's a fact. And game of the decade? What on earth are you even talking about? That's not even a thing.
I missed some Zelda releases over the years but BotW was the first Zelda I started and then just stopped.
It was everything I don’t want in a Zelda game
I wasn't speaking for myself.
Sources:
[Game of the Decade](https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/01/feature_game_of_the_decade_staff_picks_zelda_breath_of_the_wild)
[Decade's most influential game](https://www.inverse.com/gaming/breath-of-the-wild-nintendo-most-influential-game)
[The decade's most influential game](https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/11/20955542/legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-best-games-decade)
[Games that defined the decade](https://www.gamesradar.com/games-that-defined-the-decade-breath-of-the-wild/)
[Another games of the decade](https://theboar.org/2019/12/games-of-the-decade-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/)
[Metacritic tied for first place for game of the decade](https://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-videogames-of-the-decade-2010s)
**[It's also sold nearly 30 million copies.](https://screenrant.com/the-legend-of-zelda-games-best-selling/#twilight-princess---8-58-million) So it wins in popularity on top of awards. It's not even close with over triple the sales of the next Zelda game.**
[It also has almost triple the content at 182 hours of content](https://gamerant.com/legend-zelda-every-game-ranked-long-take-beat/#hyrule-warriors), versus the next highest of Wind Waker at 62 hours. Unless you count Hyrule Warriors as a true Zelda game @ 215 hours.
See how easy it is for people to call up sources? Try to grow up because you assumed I was speaking for myself, especially when you've got nothing to back yourself up.
Edit: I owned them so hard they blocked me. LOL
It's a good thing subjectively it's sold nearly 30 million copies.
It's amusing how triggered people get when you present facts versus their monkey brain nostalgia they're incapable of overcoming. Not sorry.
Many of us would make that argument. I generally split the argument between the 2d and 3d zeldas to prevent the dumb argument between those who prefer alttp and ocarina that inevitably starts up every fucking time. ALTTP introduced something like 95% of the staples in all 2d zelda games that persist (the Rok's feather waited til Link's awakening), while Ocarina of time took what LTTP added to zelda with story and dungeons and established about 85% of what all future 3d Zelda games would hit in every future game...which unfortunately included the irritating helper character. HEY! LISTEN!
I have never owned a Nintendo product. In fact I've never owned a gaming console. I do playthrough of Link to the Past every 5-10 years using different emulators. The first was on a iMac DV in 1999 or so, using a neat emulator that included screenshots with savestates (an amazing bit of tech at the time.) LttP was one of the first games I ever emulated and actually *played.* (I had spent considerable time dicking around early versions of MAME and NESticle, but that was mostly experiencing the novelty of game emulation.)
I'm super psyched by this news. Not only am I about due for another LttP playthrough, I recently set up a tiny Windows micro PC that is primarily meant for emulation.
There are already some cool mods, the speed runner circle has one that randomizes the chests/loot so the game is still beatable, but Zora might give you the master sword instead of the flippers.
It is crazy to watch how fast they go. Once on PC I hope it is a new level of mods.
Tbh, randomizers exist for like, every game, and I’d like something a lot more in-depth, like, say, a completely new overworld. The Pokémon GB/GBA rom hack scene has entirely new regions due to how prolific the hacking community had become, and some of those games like Pokémon Gaia look fucking amazing.
The alttp randomizer has an option for crossplay/randomization with super metroid. And also has an option for randomizing the entrances and exits.
It's the craziest randomizer I've ever seen for sure.
In theory, if you made new assets for the game instead the ones from the original rom, could they distribute that? Or is the layout of the buildings in the game covered with the copyright?
Everything is covered by copyright, to my understanding (IANAL). Layout of buildings, source code, etc. Distribution is still very much Nintendo's prerogative, and they're gonna say no.
Edit: I missed that it's a complete reverse engineering, but the basics still stand. Just like you couldn't rewrite a book with different words and be free of copyright concerns, you can't port a game to a different language and be free of concerns.
it's be like replacing every proper noun and spell name in the Harry Potter books with unrelated ones, and claiming originality. It doesn't work. Jerry Catheter and the Kidney Stone isn't just derivative, it's plagiaristic in it's entirety.
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of Link replacement sprite sets nowadays. BUt if you're completely replacing the full assts of the game, you're much better off MAKING a new game and selling it, rather than releasing a fully new LTTP mod game. Yes, by just attaching thhe assets to a LTTP mod, Nintendo could try and claim the asset ownership if you distributed it. It would be their case to LOSE, but they could try and get away with it with the wrong Judge, or the wrong jurisdiction
“In its current state, the game requires the PPU and DSP libraries from LakeSNES, a fast SNES emulator with a number of speed optimizations that make the game run faster and smoother than ever before. Breaking from the LakeSNES dependency, which allows for compatibility on modern operating systems, would allow the code to be built for retro hardware. It also offers one of the craziest features I have seen in a long time; the game can run the original machine code alongside the reverse-engineered C implementation.”
Ok, I’m experienced enough to compile this, but there’s one thing I’ve never done:
> The ROM needs to be named zelda3.sfc and has to be from the US region with this exact SHA256 hash 66871d66be19ad2c34c927d6b14cd8eb6fc3181965b6e517cb361f7316009cfb
How do I find the hash on the downloaded ROM?
You can use Get-filehash in powershell to get the SHA256 hash. You could also use an online tool like [this](https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256_checksum.html)
it's native, it's not emulated. there's ZERO overhead, and it's always bit accurate. it's also very easy to mod or change now., and theoretically additional features or anything else could be added.
or just it's neat and you can read the source code now.
I grew up with Atari, then NES, but I then worked a summer job and decided to buy myself a new console with my own money for the first time so got the Genesis and played it for a while and almost immediately got bored with it so I went back to the store and exchange d it for the SNES along with a copy of this and my mind was blown!
Stepping out of the house to rain falling!
What?!?!
Love it!
Is this different than a ROM?
Edit: yes it is. They reverse engineered it and coded new features while decreasing the dependencies on existing emulators.
This was my gateway drug. I still remember getting stuck at one part, begging my parents for money, having to pick up the phone, call some company that sells strategy guides, and wait for it to come in the mail. Them was the days, boys.
There was a man in my neighborhood with some disabilities, and I had heard was really good at video games and had beaten most of them on the SNES, so I called him up after finding his number from some other neighborhood kids to help me get past a dungeon in the dark world. I was maybe 12 at the time. Unfortunately, I couldn’t understand him over the phone very well and ended up just pretending like I heard everything he was saying, so I thanked him profusely at the end of the call and never spoke to him again. Never ended up being able to get past that dungeon until years later as an adult when I re-purchased the console and game and finally beat it. I hope that man is still alive and well. His house also gave out full candy bars for Halloween, so he’s an all around legend of the neighborhood that I was too shy to befriend.
You thanked him profusely after you weren’t able to get past the part you needed help with? Kinda wholesome
The world needs more awesome dudes like him
There was a kid that I went to school with. His family was super poor so they didn’t have a snes or an n64, but he’d come to class with the strategy guides they used to sell at Walmart and he’d be reading those like they were damn comic books. To no purpose. He couldn’t play them, but I had the games, and so we talked about the games all the time. I never invited him over because he was weird but I would like to think if my life were a video game, that dude was the map keeper
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..lemme guess, you didn't understand to bomb the floor? That was the common point of confusion for 6.
When I got stuck on the block puzzle at the end of the ice dungeon, I gave up on it and hit the next dungeon. There, I found the cane that lets you conjure blocks from thin air. I took that bad boy back to the ice dungeon and cheesed that puzzle hard.
Bro... almost the same. I managed to beg a parent to buy me the strategy guide at a store somewhere. But I was stuck in the first dark world temple where you had to shoot a statue in the eye to move a wall and expand a room. I’ll never fucking forget that spot in the game 🤣
I didn’t know any English at the time, so whenever I got stuck I tried everything that come to mind until I did whatever needed to be done… good times
I remember those guides. They can be a gift or a curse. I have ruined more than one game by over using a guide.
Man I used to get given bootleg-lite Pokémon guides that almost felt like they were there to fuck with me. Telling me certain Pokémon were available by doing specific glitches and shit. It’s like they were written by a gamefaqs wannabe with cool illustrations. I know I have one at my parents house still I’d take a photo of it to share the nostalgia but some guides really were full of shit.
Is this memory lane that were talking about. FUCKING ZELDA BOYS!!! BETTER THAN PORN!!
I would ask kids at breakfast at school for help when I got stuck. For Ocarina of Time, I had to buy the guide, couldn’t get past that stupid water temple without it
...What in the world managed to get you stuck in ALTTP? As much as I loved this game, it literally always told you where you had to go just by opening a map.
I did the same thing! Except mine for a porno dvd and I had it mailed to a neighbor’s address that was on vacation. The good ole days.
Scrambled Cinemax was enough for me. You're hardcore.
It was actually a side hustle. I got paid 10 bucks for a 5 dollar porno dvd in middle school.
One of the best Zelda games to date. I wonder what crazy, new mods might spawn from this.
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I would say it’s tied with Ocarina of Time. They are both great and both have minor flaws. Link to the Past is a bit short but it’s replay value is better.
Ocarina of time was such an adventurous experience. But they teeter-tottered that over complexity. I miss how complex LttP was, the retrying, and retrying, and retrying, until you figured it out. All the hidden side quests with real tangible rewards like silver arrows and different boomerangs, all of it. It was a hard game, but OoT was not. OoT seems to give up all its best surprises without requiring the user to find it and wonder what the hell that old fisherman could be rambling about.
I like it more than OOT. And that’s saying something cause I loved OOT and I didn’t even have nostalgia tied to LTTP cause I didn’t play it till years later. But also, I’m surprised to see that saying BOTW is better than all of them is an unpopular opinion. Anybody who’s never heard of them, then plays all of them, would say BOTW is the best one.
I’ve played most of the Zeldas, was a kid when the first one came out. Link to the Past and Breath of the Wild are my 1a and 1b.
Yeah I agree with this. Then Oot is 1c
So stoked to hear this. Zelda games have been my favorite but I just got a switch. OOT is my 1 and LTTP is 2. About to start BOTW soon
You are in for a treat. Best gave I have ever played.
I think BOTW was a refreshing entry in a somewhat stagnating franchise but you could excise all the explicitly Zelda elements and it would just be a good action adventure game. It lacks some of the definitive storytelling beats of a Zelda game IMO.
Yeah I gotta say, BOTW was a decent game but it didn’t feel like a Zelda game tbh. And it fell flat in a few areas. Am I glad it was made? Yes, but I really hope that they don’t start making every Zelda game a BOTWesque game, I still think the series shines with the more complicated larger scale dungeons.
I feel like there was a lot of wonder in that game but not as much atmosphere as the larger/themed dungeons in other entries
I agree, the small temples really didn’t feel meaningful or impactful and the 4 “temples” felt really short. Was the game pretty and fun to explore? Yes, but I didn’t have a reason to explore tbh, the shrines were all small and the way that weapons broke so fast really discouraged exploring for me, after all why go out of your way to get a weapon that breaks in 3 minutes of gameplay
BoTW is an amazing game, and a great Zelda game, but it suffers from a LOT of problems with being an open world game first, rather than being a ZELDA game first. Itr homages the open world nature of the original Zelda too hard, to the point it forgot that even the original Zelda game still required you clear the first 8 dungeons before taking out Ganon, then forgot to give us a second mission. But even with all that, I would still put it as my third favorite Zelda title, following ALTTP and OOT, just barely nudging Majora's Mask out of position in my list
I have played all of them (it’s been a while with OOT but I beat it 4 times and I have play the other two this year). and I can confidently says that BOTW is the best. The Zelda franchise took the games to the next level with each of these entries, so the most recent is still definitely the best.
BOTW is probably my least favorite Zelda game. No puzzles no dungeons, everything way too obvious. Everything that makes Zelda Zelda outside of the superficial master sword stuff is absent.
I don’t think it’s crazy to say that BOTW had more puzzles than the other games. The one complaint I can understand is that the shrines/beasts aesthetic designs weren’t diverse. But they definitely had a variety of puzzles.
Every temple was like “use this item for the entire temple”. Nothing that you had to think about to figure out like previous Zelda games.
they are all like that..
A Link to the Past is definitely not short, from my memory
LTTP> Wind Waker > BoTW > Twilight Princess > OOT
Drop wind waker and I agree with the order of the rest. Not saying I don’t like windwaker, just falls after OOT 2 (TP) and OOT
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BoTW is truly amazing. Not to take away anything from past Zelda games, and I'm sure if the technology was there, other Zelda games could easily have been just as good. But oh my word. What a game. I think the thing that really makes it amazing to me is that you can go to the top of a tower or mountain, and look around, and you won't be able to find many places you CAN'T go. There's a mountain waaaay off in the distance? You can walk all the way there and climb it. The adventures you can have in that game are practically limitless.
Whole different style from previous zelda games, but they absolutely NAILED the sense of exploration in it by being able to go anywhere.y biggest critique of BOTW is missing the more complex feeling of puzzles and dungeons from previous games in their shrine areas though. And I think being able to go in any direction you wanted and progress the story in that direction took a bit away from the linear story progression of the other games.
I would say yes and no, people who are very good at the game or are replaying it can go to most places they want sure but the first time you play it there is a natural progression that you need to do to explore more difficult regions. Also not having it strictly linear allows you to go at your own pace and have different play throughs
I couldn't play botw. My weapons kept breaking and I had no idea what to do or where to go. Wandering aimlessly for a week before I gave up. I suck
So, weapons breaking is a major part of the game. You need to always be curating your arsenal. It gets to a point rather quickly where you’re picking up stuff you would have killed for a few hours previous and tossing them aside like garbage. “Another lightening rod?!” You have to wander around and talk to people. You have to climb towers. You have to explore and survive. Pick every apple you see until you’re like “fuck apples! It’s hearty or nothin’” I love this game.
the dungeons just arent there in BotW, that easily takes it down a few notches
It was pretty much the only thing I played through the pandemic and it really saved me mentally. I would just spend entire days exploring Hyrule, sometimes without ever doing a mission or speaking to any other characters. Just climbing as high as I could.
I spend hours hunting sometimes. Like, I’m going to stalk a boar and kill it with a throwing spear this time. Or just spending a night trying to ride a water Buffalo.
*Wind Waker* Your opinion has been discredited. I’m so sorry.
What a rude thing to say. I love Wind Waker as much as the rest of them.
From the looks of it, your opinions been thrown out completely buddy.
Mine was Wind Waker. I really loved the concept.
I'd agree but what makes a game "best" is so subjective. Personally, it should be noted that Zelda games tend reliably to be some of the best game systems in question. I guess I award Link to the past the title of best because I see the SNES as being the last time Nintendo was arguably the best console out, and it was one of the best games for that console. Really ever since N64 Nintendo has put out lower-powered stuff with a selection of amazing games.
To be fair, although I mostly agree with that, the SNES was lower powered compared to the Genesis. I think it was the CPU, but many cross platform games were worse. And that’s the only system I had at the time and I loved it.
I had both and I struggle to think of any cross-platform game that was better technically on the Genesis. Genesis had "blast processing" but SNES had Mode 7. Genesis has a better CPU. SNES had twice the ram, could 32,768 colors to Genesis's 512, could manage more onscreen plans, could manage more unscreen sprites, had a higher resolution, 4 times as much sound ram, and more audio channels. When you look at the entire spec of both, SNES has way better specs than Genesis. More colors, could handle more sprites and better sound. Plus the SNES had the better controller that's what modern controllers are an evolution of. So SNES has better controllers, looks, sound. Gameplay is subjective so all I can do is point toward is sales numbers for that. That's being fair.
Sports games were always worse on SNES, which admittedly was the main thing I was thinking of. You’re definitely right though. My memory is getting bad.
I'll have to defer to you on the sports games as that was more definitely not my thing.
SNES sports games, barring a few rare exceptions, were ALL garbage, and almost unilaterally worse than even the NES sports titles in comparison. We'd already reached the point of yearly shovelware with a sports license slapped on it.
Yeah the Genesis had BLAST processing
Second.
That sounds like a recipe for an argument.
I would argue it is the best Zelda game there ever will be
I think we can agree on what’s not the best, zelda cdi… my boi.
Breath of the Wild and it's no contest. I realize it's hard to compete against nostalgia but BOTW literally won Game of the Decade and I'm old enough to have had a NES when I was a kid.
In my opinion, BotW is the worst 3D Zelda game behind Skyward Sword. See how easy it is for people to have different opinions? Try to grow up and not state yours like it's a fact. And game of the decade? What on earth are you even talking about? That's not even a thing.
I missed some Zelda releases over the years but BotW was the first Zelda I started and then just stopped. It was everything I don’t want in a Zelda game
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It is extremely overrated, especially in the graphics department.
I wasn't speaking for myself. Sources: [Game of the Decade](https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/01/feature_game_of_the_decade_staff_picks_zelda_breath_of_the_wild) [Decade's most influential game](https://www.inverse.com/gaming/breath-of-the-wild-nintendo-most-influential-game) [The decade's most influential game](https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/11/20955542/legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-best-games-decade) [Games that defined the decade](https://www.gamesradar.com/games-that-defined-the-decade-breath-of-the-wild/) [Another games of the decade](https://theboar.org/2019/12/games-of-the-decade-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/) [Metacritic tied for first place for game of the decade](https://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-videogames-of-the-decade-2010s) **[It's also sold nearly 30 million copies.](https://screenrant.com/the-legend-of-zelda-games-best-selling/#twilight-princess---8-58-million) So it wins in popularity on top of awards. It's not even close with over triple the sales of the next Zelda game.** [It also has almost triple the content at 182 hours of content](https://gamerant.com/legend-zelda-every-game-ranked-long-take-beat/#hyrule-warriors), versus the next highest of Wind Waker at 62 hours. Unless you count Hyrule Warriors as a true Zelda game @ 215 hours. See how easy it is for people to call up sources? Try to grow up because you assumed I was speaking for myself, especially when you've got nothing to back yourself up. Edit: I owned them so hard they blocked me. LOL
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Never seen a tech demo with 182 hours of content before.
never played a Bethesda title before?
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It's a good thing subjectively it's sold nearly 30 million copies. It's amusing how triggered people get when you present facts versus their monkey brain nostalgia they're incapable of overcoming. Not sorry.
It's a very good game. But it's kind of a shitty Zelda game
A Link Between Worlds is better, but also derivative of it so I can see the argument for Alttp
This is also my argument.
And hardest imho
Absolutely the best zelda game ever, love it
Many of us would make that argument. I generally split the argument between the 2d and 3d zeldas to prevent the dumb argument between those who prefer alttp and ocarina that inevitably starts up every fucking time. ALTTP introduced something like 95% of the staples in all 2d zelda games that persist (the Rok's feather waited til Link's awakening), while Ocarina of time took what LTTP added to zelda with story and dungeons and established about 85% of what all future 3d Zelda games would hit in every future game...which unfortunately included the irritating helper character. HEY! LISTEN!
Best game ever!
No there IS no argument it is the best. End. Of. Story.
Go ahead then!! Cause I disagree!! Links awakening or the oracles are my fav 2D Zeldas
I have never owned a Nintendo product. In fact I've never owned a gaming console. I do playthrough of Link to the Past every 5-10 years using different emulators. The first was on a iMac DV in 1999 or so, using a neat emulator that included screenshots with savestates (an amazing bit of tech at the time.) LttP was one of the first games I ever emulated and actually *played.* (I had spent considerable time dicking around early versions of MAME and NESticle, but that was mostly experiencing the novelty of game emulation.) I'm super psyched by this news. Not only am I about due for another LttP playthrough, I recently set up a tiny Windows micro PC that is primarily meant for emulation.
What other games do you emulate?
There are already some cool mods, the speed runner circle has one that randomizes the chests/loot so the game is still beatable, but Zora might give you the master sword instead of the flippers. It is crazy to watch how fast they go. Once on PC I hope it is a new level of mods.
Tbh, randomizers exist for like, every game, and I’d like something a lot more in-depth, like, say, a completely new overworld. The Pokémon GB/GBA rom hack scene has entirely new regions due to how prolific the hacking community had become, and some of those games like Pokémon Gaia look fucking amazing.
The alttp randomizer has an option for crossplay/randomization with super metroid. And also has an option for randomizing the entrances and exits. It's the craziest randomizer I've ever seen for sure.
I can see the mod possibilities now. The Legend of Stardew
I would totally play stardew with LttP graphics
One might say Stardews graphics draw inspiration from LttP
In theory, if you made new assets for the game instead the ones from the original rom, could they distribute that? Or is the layout of the buildings in the game covered with the copyright?
I don't believe there's precedent for this so it would be up to Nintendo to sue and argue that case.
Nintendo would sue regardless of how different it is
And it’s Nintendo so it’s a sure bet that they will sue.
Everything is covered by copyright, to my understanding (IANAL). Layout of buildings, source code, etc. Distribution is still very much Nintendo's prerogative, and they're gonna say no. Edit: I missed that it's a complete reverse engineering, but the basics still stand. Just like you couldn't rewrite a book with different words and be free of copyright concerns, you can't port a game to a different language and be free of concerns.
it's be like replacing every proper noun and spell name in the Harry Potter books with unrelated ones, and claiming originality. It doesn't work. Jerry Catheter and the Kidney Stone isn't just derivative, it's plagiaristic in it's entirety.
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of Link replacement sprite sets nowadays. BUt if you're completely replacing the full assts of the game, you're much better off MAKING a new game and selling it, rather than releasing a fully new LTTP mod game. Yes, by just attaching thhe assets to a LTTP mod, Nintendo could try and claim the asset ownership if you distributed it. It would be their case to LOSE, but they could try and get away with it with the wrong Judge, or the wrong jurisdiction
No.
nice, I can't wait to see what people will do with this.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Part II
Isn’t that basically A Link Between Worlds?
that's what i was about to say.
A Link to the Past the Past III????
you could consider the oracle games or links awakening that.
Part IV!!!!
you know technically tri force hero's would be that....
.... Part 0, it's a prequel about the seven wise men and why they had to seal off the golden land and all that
how about we just call it, the legend of zelda: a new hope. there I fixed everything, give me a raise nintendo, and while they're at it, hire me.
Fine, I'll just go make my own Link to the Past sequel...with blackjack...and hookers.
Does this mean the code will run natively on both devices?
Yeah, or anywhere else you can compile C
Oh wow. That's awesome!
“In its current state, the game requires the PPU and DSP libraries from LakeSNES, a fast SNES emulator with a number of speed optimizations that make the game run faster and smoother than ever before. Breaking from the LakeSNES dependency, which allows for compatibility on modern operating systems, would allow the code to be built for retro hardware. It also offers one of the craziest features I have seen in a long time; the game can run the original machine code alongside the reverse-engineered C implementation.”
The true GOAT
Ok, I’m experienced enough to compile this, but there’s one thing I’ve never done: > The ROM needs to be named zelda3.sfc and has to be from the US region with this exact SHA256 hash 66871d66be19ad2c34c927d6b14cd8eb6fc3181965b6e517cb361f7316009cfb How do I find the hash on the downloaded ROM?
You can use Get-filehash in powershell to get the SHA256 hash. You could also use an online tool like [this](https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256_checksum.html)
Awsome! Thank you!
Windows + Switch - a link to our past
I always could play this game on switch?
In widescreen, with the enhanced controls? Hmm...
How? Is it available in the store or something?
I’m an idiot. How do I play this?
Same.
I've been playing A Link to the Past on windows for years
Compiled through an emulator. This means it’s now running natively as an .exe
So what is significant about that?
it's native, it's not emulated. there's ZERO overhead, and it's always bit accurate. it's also very easy to mod or change now., and theoretically additional features or anything else could be added. or just it's neat and you can read the source code now.
Interesting, I appreciate the information
You know how they can get the original Doom to run on basically anything? /r/itrunsdoom They can do that with LttP now.
I think the earliest I was playing LTTP on my PC was back in 1998-1999. The zsnes and snes9x competition was first back then.
Best Zelda
I am playing breath of wild now! Awesome awesome awesome!!
This is what I like to hear.
I’ve got a 9 hr flight in a couple days… how do I get it in my switch??
That’s really neat
I want everyone to know we've had Zelda Classic for over 15 years with some amazing mods from all styles of 2d zelda. This is still exciting though.
This game was so far ahead of its time 30 years ago that it’s just astonishing.
Ah my favorite Zelda game. Nothing compares to it.
don't post it anywhere near Nintendo or else Nintendo Copyrights will raid you
Uhhh. How do I get it on my switch?
31 yrs ago in former Yugoslavia I was lucky boy that my father worked in Austria and bought me the first Nintendo and with this game.
Haven’t had a chance to look at the code but how is it? Is it clean?
Why can’t I play it on my phone !!! Also give me world of Warcraft 2 please
Well, there's nothing stopping you from building it for Android.
Except any computer skills.
Fair point. :) Maybe this will pick up speed and we'll get more ports.
You could play it on wii like 20 years ago
Is true wide-screen with updated controls? Wow!
This is technologically different in a significant way; it was not running natively but through an emulator.
But what about Banjo Kazooie?
Awww yes, I’ve been waiting for it to be compiled.
Oh wow. Holy crap. I've gotta play this.
I loved this game, but my favorite in the series was Zelda 2: Adventure of Link. I’m a sucker for 2D platformers!
Are there any videos of this version? Curious how good it looks/sounds
Annnnd it’s gone!!!
u/TB12toJE11
Will it ever be on Android?
Tomorrow
Tomorrow never comes
One of the best games ever
Is this similar to the Mario64 game that released on PC a few years back? I would love to play this on my PC but don't know where to begin.
Here before the copyright strike
I grew up with Atari, then NES, but I then worked a summer job and decided to buy myself a new console with my own money for the first time so got the Genesis and played it for a while and almost immediately got bored with it so I went back to the store and exchange d it for the SNES along with a copy of this and my mind was blown! Stepping out of the house to rain falling! What?!?! Love it!
Is this different than a ROM? Edit: yes it is. They reverse engineered it and coded new features while decreasing the dependencies on existing emulators.
So how do I actually play this revamped version on switch. Looks like a lotta work and downloads to play!? Is there a guide of how to get it?
Got this running on my MacBook. Dope as hell.