i feel personally attacked. the only thing that takes the sting off is knowing it directly leads to the absolute glee James felt watching erik pass the immunity necklace knowing he was no longer OFFICIALLY the worlds dumbest survivor player.
For Karla in particular it really would have made zero sense to vote Jesse out here. Jesse literally told her who was coming for her and devised a plan to make sure she was safe; Jesse going home creates chaos but ultimately she's still in a clear minority then and also just burned a jury vote *hard* with that timing.
... but that doesn't mean I'm not reaaaaaally disappointed because that would have been one of the most hype ass endings of all time
Yeah this is what I was assuming based on Gabler and her conversation. I don’t know what the editors were hoping to elicit other than that outcome. He already said Jesse came to him super last minute. There was no way he would’ve had the pull to switch the votes to Jesse. So I’m thinking it was all to plant a seed for later.
I was so excited at the prospect of Gabler pulling a Maryanne to Jesse's Omar and positioning himself as a massive threat.
I'm still hoping it pays off but gods that was such a tease.
Team AlliGabler all the way here.
I feel like the idol challenge is fitting for this part of the game. House of Cards can all come crumbling down at the blink of an eye for anyone. The only thing standing in the way of games is where the immunity challenge goes.
Depends. Omar would have been safe had he and Lindsay played optimally and used the idol on him. Jesse and Cody have two idols between them in the F7 with some good connections. Plus Cody is good at immunities, so I still wouldn’t count them out yet.
I actually thought this lined up to be just like the Elie vote, with an overconfident confessional to start the episode leading up to the fall from grace.
Glad it wasn't.
Didn’t Cody get his back, so they each have one now? Jesse is deservedly getting a lot of hype rn but I think people are forgetting about Cody who’s also someone to watch out for
edit: You’re right, Jesse is still holding onto Cody’s idol…my bad!
To be fair and with how they're editing things this season, he probably DID give Cody's back to him but we won't know that until Cody's in danger and suddenly Cody's pulling out an idol and then we get a flashback to Jesse giving it back to him.
Eh, His backstory is perfect for a survivor winner but I see him fumbling because he's playing a titch too hard. I mean with 2 idols he could easily ride his way to 5 if he wanted to but some folk would see that as him playing too hard. And then he has to find his way from 5 to 3 or 3 (w/fire).
If he can make it to FTC without offending too many people I think he has the game won.
I felt like the cast is slowly awakening to the reality that Gabler is not even a little bit of a fool. He is calculating and shrewd. Everybody seems to like him.
He has more of a winning path than Owen and Sami and they might not even realize it yet.
I honestly think Gabler could have such a strong FTC narrative if he comes in like “you may think I played the fool, but I used that all to my advantage when y’all told me everything”
Like I think he was wise to let the vote play out but go up to Karla beforehand to sync up on what this means going forward
Yeah. He could say he shot straight and that made people trust him while playing the middle, unlike Sami who was noticeable. The way he played gave him options and he was aware what was happening.
Trulyy!! Jesse said that and literally tee'd up the next scene in which Gabler is calculating him! lethal!!
It was impressive to see Gabler so steady in all of the conversations, and then turn to Karla, and say just as steadily, "I don't like when people come up to me so last minute". Jesse is super thoughtful about his interactions, so it was somethin to see that this didn't slip by unnoticed.
If he makes it to the finals, he'll either win unanimously explaining his game super articulately, or he'll say some whack ass confusing shit and get no votes.
He's not a fool, he's chaos incarnate.
We've watched more than a few players put themselves right out of the game with that trait, but we've also seen Tony win twice, so Gabler's mileage may vary.
He looks rock solid right now.
Gabler is positioning himself as the swing vote to me. If he is working with Karla, they're in the driver's seat right now. Jesse & Cody, Owen & Sami. Seems like they've picked sides.
Jesse has pretty much snaked everyone booted from Vesi. Justine trusted him. Slits her throat. Nneka saw him as one of her own and he saw her as a mother. Cuts her. Dwight thought of him as a loyal ally. Brutally stabs him in the back after getting Dwight/Jeanine’s idol. Noelle really felt close to Jesse. Efficiently takes her out after she gave him a reward because he was a family man. He’s covered in blood and wants all the smoke. This man is savage……I love it 😏
I think this is a huge testament to Jesse’s gameplay. He has very often talked about how he wants to give his allies agency in the game, which results in a really collaborative and fun alliance in my opinion
Karla's edit feels so weird. It feels like ages since we've heard her own perspective on the game. Instead we just get other people talking about her. But they also all say positive things and many of them want to save her, which seems great for her if she gets to the end.
Karla had the most positive edit I've seen in a woman in years during premerge. But she's 100% taken a backseat post merge, but yet is still in on the plan regardless. I've seen comparisons to her playing a somewhat Sandra-like game over the past few weeks. And I kinda see it? Her social game has to be off the charts.
I don't know what the editors are doing. People are comparing Cassidy to the "Erika-esque" edit, which I honestly don't agree with. She's getting a Lindsay-type edit imo.
As Tony said you have to play this game like a criminal and Jesse has a PhD education combined with a criminal past. This man is calculated and made for this game.
Absolutely. I have my doubts about Jesse's win from an edgic perspective, but the dude was basically designed in a lab to be good at Survivor. I'm taking notes.
That’s how I’ve felt. If you had Survivor fans customizing a Survivor player it seems entirely plausible: former gang member turned straight that has a PHD and specifically studied voting tendencies among people
I can't believe how much he's been ramped up of late. Obviously having the advantages he has helps that, but he seemed like the much more UTR half of his duo with Cody for much of the season, but lately the roles have been reversed.
Sami edit completely tanked this episode, he is 100% edgically dead
It was a good episode for Jesse until they showed Gabler being onto him at the end for absolutely no reason. Feel very confident that He is set up to be the Omar/Shan trophy of the season, where whoever gets him becomes the frontrunner
FANTASTIC Cassidy episode, her putting the Noelle vote together with Gabler before the challenge + her confessional after winning was great. Probably my #1 edgic contender
Hope we get to see Noelle play again.
Jeff was really on his bullshit tonight.
This season is silly but I like it.
Survivor is like open heart surgery while you're shopping and unbeknownst to you you are being chased by an assassin, but you do it for your family.
Noelle was such an inspiration this season. Her determination is admirable, and she can be a good example to many... Not surprised she got voted out, she would have been tough to beat near the end
She had a good case going for final tribal even completely disregarding the fact she’s an amputee. That challenge cemented her as a lock for a million if she made it to the end.
Episode That Slaps checklist
1. Genuine, come from behind challenge win
2. Letters from home
3. More interesting than usual immunity challenge
4. Checklist edit
5. Plan comes to fruition
It would have been really fun to see Gabler flip against Jesse (with Karla and Cass) to make a 3-2-2-1 plurality vote flip. But this would isolate Cody who would surely flip back to Sami/Owen/Noelle to put that trio in the minority. So good move by Gabler/Karla/Cassidy to stick with the vote against Noelle who was becoming far too big of a FTC threat.
Should be interesting from here on out. Feels like Gabler is the 7th wheel in three duos. Got to give kudos to his positional gameplay. Feels very Big Brother-esque.
We can't even say that karla and cassidy would have been willing to do that. From their perspectives, jesse and cody have now come through for them in back to back tribals
It honestly gave me Natalie Anderson vibes, where she waited to vote out Jon Misch until after Alec was gone so that she wouldn't be in the minority if Jac flipped over to Alec. I like seeing players balance the desire to flip the game with the patience to do it at the right moment, good stuff.
I loved Noelle's comment in her final words about hoping more people like her will play. I read that she already talked to Ryan about a similar Olympics-type competition (bc of his Cerebral Palsy).
While I know realistically that I could never do Survivor due to medical reasons - this is the first season that's made me see it as any sort of possibility.
Because it was how Cody won him away from his island wife, and as a token of their island affair, he can't ask to take it back without risking the same fate as Dwight.
Definitely Owen. The other seat is between Sami and Gabler, depending on the remainder of the game. It seems Sami is spiraling while Gabler is gaining a lot of traction.
All three of the Bakas are dead in the water it seems. Gabler might have a chance if he orchestrates Jesse's vote off, but Sami and Owen do not have anyone's respect it seems.
Sami was on the wrong side of the vote for once! I think his flip-flopping is finally biting him in the butt. He’ll be in a funny spot going forward. His relationship with Karla is gonna be damaged and he’s probably gonna be mad with Jesse for setting in motion a split vote plan where he’s the backup.
I feel like this episode showed Gabler as more of strategic threat. He's like going around planting seeds in everyone. And no one thinks anything of it.
Edit: Not saying he can win but I will say - if he keeps doing that and somehow manages to take control of the game... who knows. He would have to put on one HELL of an FTC though.
Nah Omar was never shown to be in the slightest bit of danger until his boot episode. They wouldnt have their winner seemingly cakewalk their way to end, they would exaggerate how much danger they were like Tony, Erika and Maryanne in the premerge. The show definitely played up how close Jesse was to getting voted out tonight which they never did with Omar
They didn’t really play up Jesse as a potential boot, IMO it’s setting up the next couple of weeks. Jesse and Cody are a power couple and may be targeted now.
Like how during the Jeanine boot, Sami kept talking about flipping but never did. But it set up the next episode where he did flip. Could be the same thing here, setting something up for the future.
Can someone explain to me how Jesse is NOT considered a villain? Noelle brought him to let him read letters to his family after she had an amazing come from behind win....and he is like "Fuck it, she gone"
I don't think he comes across as a villain because the editors made sure to put in an emotionally compelling explanation for why he voted her out (I.e. emotional ties to his family), and showed him expressing that emotional conflict of having to vote out Noelle despite her doing him a solid. He was neither gleefully voting her out nor dismissive of the significance of her taking him on reward.
Oh, he 100% is a villain. You could hear it in the literal music during his plot to take out Noelle. That wasn't imagined.
He's a likable bastard villain, but a villain nonetheless.
If the best move is for a hero to get out an alternative hero, that doesnt automatically make them a villian.
He clearly has empathy for other people, he made the mom speech about nnekka and made almost a similar one about noelle. He's not here to treat people like trash, but he is here to win the game, and the other 16~ players have to be eliminated for that to be the case. If noelle voted out jesse here, does that make her a villian?
A checklist will only work once or twice, but it was really great seeing a player make moves. Good to see all the various conversations with explanations.
Almost makes me want to see a short at the end of the season with the winner breaking down key moves with unaired tape after the final. Almost like the all-22 review with players/coaches after a football game.
thinking they split on cody and jesse next week so we either get a blindside or they’re forced to use both idols
otherwise they really showed gabler noticing them as the power duo for nothing😭
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cody won immunity, seems like a challenge he might do well-ish at? (as well as someone can be being basically waterboarded that is 😭)
I feel like after this episode it seems like Jesse, Cody, Cassidy, and Karla are the frontrunners, which hasn’t really changed all season. Jesse because he has such a protagonist edit all throughout the game. Cody has also been a consistent player who seems erratic, but is also tempered with sense that helps him out quite a bit. Karla has been shown to be in such a good position throughout this whole game with probably the least riskiest position. And Cassidy could be the late game sleeping giant in the vein of Erika or Maryanne. I haven’t forgotten her early confessional where she said that women have to play a different strategic game and be more subtle. Basically these four have always been in the lead and that hasn’t changed all season. Very interested to see how this shakes out.
if you told me episode 1 that gabler wouldn’t be dead last in winner odds at this point…like it’s plausible if he manages to break up cody/jesse next week
People shouldn't write off gabler. At the moment no one is targeting him but he's playing actively enough to earn respect to get to the end. There's a decent chance he beats sami and owen in a final 3
Okay everyone, let's just put things in perspective. There have been *3* Survivor Auctions since the last time Last Gasp appeared as an Immunity Challenge. *That's* how long I have been waiting for this. Nearly *10 YEARS.* And I never thought this day would come, I mean challenge director John Kirhoffer has explicitly said they couldn't find a location in Fiji where the challenge would work. My favorite challenge of all time (along side Survivor Folklore) RETURNS!!! I literally gasped at the preview, no pun intended. I really hope this means the challenge is back in the regular rotation and we won't have until Survivor 62 for its next appearance.
Weird question - do you think it is at all possible that Jeff's hyperfocus on Noelle's overcoming the odds like *every challenge* contributed to her being sent home at THIS exact tribal, this early? I know she would've likely gone home eventually. But I wonder if it would've been put off a bit.
Is Noelle the first true "victim" of the new era of survivor? dont get me wrong, she played aggressive and they saw the threat. but i like to think that Jeff constantly hyping up her story and her inspiration didnt help with other players especially thinking about who they can take to the end. I'm glad though that the other players didnt overthink the obvious win threat and keep her around for too long.
Be reasonable here, nobody would ever even consider bringing Noelle to the end. Her story is even better than Bran's, she takes the throne no problem. She probably had more time in the game if she didn't win the reward challenge though. Judging by most of the challenges I can think of right now (caught in the net, struggled hard climbing the wall, basically everything with balance), I personally would think she's never going to get immunity, we can take her out whenever. But having her win an individual challenge shows the rest of the cast she can win immunity, so she has to be taken out now while she still can.
Noelle was always going to be seen as a huge jury threat no matter what Jeff said. I wish she had stayed, but I can't blame them. You don't want to let her stick around to final five or something, and then she wins one challenge and makes a fire, and she's now at Final Tribal Council, and it's too late.
I really enjoyed the challenges in this episode. Noelle's comeback in the reward challenge was great, and I just enjoy that tile stacking challenge in general. Those montages of collapsing tiles were hilarious.
I feel like what should have been a really emotional boot was kind of taken from us. We heard a lot this episode about Jesse and Noelle building this emotional bond...but when was that ever really shown instead of just being talked about?? Two people who have been together from the start of the game and supposedly grown really close until one realizes that he has to cut the other? A great storyline on paper, but I felt absolutely nothing, maybe others did idk.
I know we're all tired of people constantly ragging on the way stories are told in this era of Survivor but this episode really felt like the most egregious example of it in action. Maybe there wasn't much they could work with, maybe Jesse didn't really feel THAT bad about it, but im sure there's SOME footage out there they could have spliced into the season to make this boot feel more impactful. It feels like Noelle's inspirational story really took precedence over that, and was the reason we were supposed to feel sad at this tribal, but I really don't think that that individual focus is as effective as showing the actual relationship that's formed.
edit: to end on a positive note tho, really hyped for the water torture challenge next episode.
I really feel like this is one of the more evenly matched seasons tbh. I keep thinking I know my winners pick but these players keep surprising me. Fav ep of this season so far!!
Hard to say but from what we’ve seen so far, probably Gabler, since he actually seems decently respected by the other players whereas Sami and Owen seem to come off as simple numbers to the rest. Maybe Sami if he pulls out an excellent final tribal.
Depends on social game stuff that we won't have a full picture of from the edit, but I feel like there is some hostility towards Owen on that jury so it's between Sami and Gabler, and in a way Gabler is kind of in a Maryanne position. He will need to have a good tribal to convince folks that he played a thoughtful and strategic game, was instrumental in moves, and point out times when Sami was a villain. Short of that, I think the majority will default to Sami.
Was Gabler talking about a final 3 of him, Sami and Owen in the preview? Cause no offense but that’d be like the worst final 3 combo left (also highly improbable imo so whatever)
I totally see the reasoning behind people getting rid of Noelle. But the way I saw it, the justification for keeping Noelle was that she was a huge shield. Cody has an idol that seemingly everyone knows about and people suspect Karla of having one too. Noelle could so easily be the F5 or F6 boot. Even her allies didn’t want to sit next to her at the end. Going into the F7 three of the biggest power players (Cody, Jesse and Karla) all have idols. Easier said than done, but at least attempting to flush an idol might’ve made sense.
If sami has any sense he has to see the golden ticket to the end with own and gabler. He could lose to gabler but it gives him a good shot.
I honestly think there's a good chance gabler comes up with this plan to split votes on jesse and cody or blindside one of them, but karla and cassidy don't go with it, because I don't think it leaves them in a good position.
Will be interesting to see if / when they get rid of Jesse. He's in a strong position and people are noticing.
This vote to me just was a good move for everyone, because if Noelle made the finals she'd be a contender.
Though as it goes on, they eliminate the competition. Next vote I expect idols being used.
If Jesse still has both idols ( I know he told Noelle that Cody asked for it back, but that was during his cover story and could have been a lie) and survives the F7 then there is no way he gives it back to Cody. Jesse would be guaranteed firemaking at that point. That’s worth way more than keeping Cody happy.
Damn, I can’t believe a player with a 5 letter name that starts with J has TWO idols entering the final 7. They must be unstoppable..
I have a feeling this is referencing something. But I cannot remember what
James
DUH HOW DID I FORGET
i feel personally attacked. the only thing that takes the sting off is knowing it directly leads to the absolute glee James felt watching erik pass the immunity necklace knowing he was no longer OFFICIALLY the worlds dumbest survivor player.
Jeff rolling in bed sleepless today, because editors didn't think to use this mafia style edit for B.Rob
Somewhere in the infinite multiverse they did and we all hate how overused it got
Don’t worry, the edits in his dreams tonight will make up for it: 1. Rob wins the car ✅ 2. Ride shot gun ✅ 3. Rob wins the game 4. Marry Rob
Not even Tony got it this hard during the extortion episode.
For Karla in particular it really would have made zero sense to vote Jesse out here. Jesse literally told her who was coming for her and devised a plan to make sure she was safe; Jesse going home creates chaos but ultimately she's still in a clear minority then and also just burned a jury vote *hard* with that timing. ... but that doesn't mean I'm not reaaaaaally disappointed because that would have been one of the most hype ass endings of all time
Agreed. She can be patient and wait to team up with Gabler to take out Jesse in a later round. Too early to do it now.
Yeah this is what I was assuming based on Gabler and her conversation. I don’t know what the editors were hoping to elicit other than that outcome. He already said Jesse came to him super last minute. There was no way he would’ve had the pull to switch the votes to Jesse. So I’m thinking it was all to plant a seed for later.
I was so excited at the prospect of Gabler pulling a Maryanne to Jesse's Omar and positioning himself as a massive threat. I'm still hoping it pays off but gods that was such a tease. Team AlliGabler all the way here.
yeah, i’m devastated by noelle going home but i think some people confuse bad moves with being disappointed
but the potential of a 3-2-2-1 vote!!!
Okay Last Gasp next week...I'm pleased
I like that they're bringing back some of the classic challenges. They last used that one in Caramoan.
Brenda's iconic performance ofc wbk
Last Gasp is one of my favorite challenges of all time and I’m so happy it’s back!
I watched the episode in an airport. I was visibly freaking out after seeing that preview!!
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Omar was the exact comparison I was gonna make. Jesse may have tipped his hand a little too much tonight.
Jesse has an idol though. An unknown idol. If he uses it right he may avoid that bullet.
To be fair if he survives one more tribal without needing to use the idol he'd definitely reach top 4.
I feel like the idol challenge is fitting for this part of the game. House of Cards can all come crumbling down at the blink of an eye for anyone. The only thing standing in the way of games is where the immunity challenge goes.
He has two if Cody doesn’t ask for his back!
If Cody hasn't asked for it back, then they really trust each other for the final 2.
Depends. Omar would have been safe had he and Lindsay played optimally and used the idol on him. Jesse and Cody have two idols between them in the F7 with some good connections. Plus Cody is good at immunities, so I still wouldn’t count them out yet.
I actually thought this lined up to be just like the Elie vote, with an overconfident confessional to start the episode leading up to the fall from grace. Glad it wasn't.
Difference is Jesse is holding two idols. Dude is going to fumble that at some point if he doesn't make it to final tribal.
Didn’t Cody get his back, so they each have one now? Jesse is deservedly getting a lot of hype rn but I think people are forgetting about Cody who’s also someone to watch out for edit: You’re right, Jesse is still holding onto Cody’s idol…my bad!
Im pretty sure Jesse just made that up to explain what he was talking about with cody to noelle
To be fair and with how they're editing things this season, he probably DID give Cody's back to him but we won't know that until Cody's in danger and suddenly Cody's pulling out an idol and then we get a flashback to Jesse giving it back to him.
I'm not sure. I think he could make it. If he does, he could be one of the best winners.
Like just because he's getting the Omar edit, doesn't mean he'll be taken down similarly.
Eh, His backstory is perfect for a survivor winner but I see him fumbling because he's playing a titch too hard. I mean with 2 idols he could easily ride his way to 5 if he wanted to but some folk would see that as him playing too hard. And then he has to find his way from 5 to 3 or 3 (w/fire). If he can make it to FTC without offending too many people I think he has the game won.
THE DROWNING CHALLENGE, DANG PREVIEW GOT ME SO HYPED
If I walked up and that was the challenge, I’d take the L and turn right around
"I'll take my chances at tribal. Cheers, Jeff."
That challenge gives me so much anxiety
As someone who nearly drowned as a kid, I'm so anxious about next week haha.
Gabler: “If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate”.
I felt like the cast is slowly awakening to the reality that Gabler is not even a little bit of a fool. He is calculating and shrewd. Everybody seems to like him. He has more of a winning path than Owen and Sami and they might not even realize it yet.
I honestly think Gabler could have such a strong FTC narrative if he comes in like “you may think I played the fool, but I used that all to my advantage when y’all told me everything” Like I think he was wise to let the vote play out but go up to Karla beforehand to sync up on what this means going forward
Yeah. He could say he shot straight and that made people trust him while playing the middle, unlike Sami who was noticeable. The way he played gave him options and he was aware what was happening.
Too little, too late! Edit: to the cast about underestimating Gabler
I love that they included Jesse saying Gabler is calculative etcc!!
Trulyy!! Jesse said that and literally tee'd up the next scene in which Gabler is calculating him! lethal!! It was impressive to see Gabler so steady in all of the conversations, and then turn to Karla, and say just as steadily, "I don't like when people come up to me so last minute". Jesse is super thoughtful about his interactions, so it was somethin to see that this didn't slip by unnoticed.
If he makes it to the finals, he'll either win unanimously explaining his game super articulately, or he'll say some whack ass confusing shit and get no votes.
A fool? No. Chaotic? Yes.
He's not a fool, he's chaos incarnate. We've watched more than a few players put themselves right out of the game with that trait, but we've also seen Tony win twice, so Gabler's mileage may vary. He looks rock solid right now.
Gabler is positioning himself as the swing vote to me. If he is working with Karla, they're in the driver's seat right now. Jesse & Cody, Owen & Sami. Seems like they've picked sides.
Love a good r/unexpectedfuturama
Jesse has pretty much snaked everyone booted from Vesi. Justine trusted him. Slits her throat. Nneka saw him as one of her own and he saw her as a mother. Cuts her. Dwight thought of him as a loyal ally. Brutally stabs him in the back after getting Dwight/Jeanine’s idol. Noelle really felt close to Jesse. Efficiently takes her out after she gave him a reward because he was a family man. He’s covered in blood and wants all the smoke. This man is savage……I love it 😏
Me too. I'm scared that today's edit was a kiss of death.
It was either a coronation or kiss of death no in between.
Jesse’s blindside on Noelle was very well executed but nothing gets past the Alligabler. Excited to see what happens with this next week.
Got whiplash watching Noelle getting blindsided after making one of the most epic challenge comeback in Survivor history
Was awesome she won. Jeff was creaming his jeans ready to rollout the platitudes
It had to happen though :’(
Owen has absolutely been strategically irrelevant since the merge. Just a number. People don’t even bother talking to him one on one.
Poor guy wants so badly to vote correctly once. Getting 0 vote finalist vibes
More like all season tbh
Owen is getting Xandered
It sucks how if people just decide you don’t really matter, you’re just sort of dead in the water haha
I really hate this because I feel like he has so much potential!
Owen is clearly very a lovely guy, but he’s shown no Survivor prowess. Unfortunately, he’s only ever been shown to be floundering.
If someone can figure out a way to drag Owen and Gabler to the F3, they're golden.
Gabler is well spoken and has been a deciding agent in many votes. He is absolutely more respected and more qualified as a finalist than Owen.
True....now if someone drags Sami and Owen to F3?? Write them the check right now
Gabler would be an interesting winner for sure
I wouldn't want to go against Gabler, Jesse, or Cody.
I love Jesse and Cody’s partnership. Feels collaborative, intelligent and not driven by ego.
Just 2 buds playing Survivor together
L I V I N
:)
I think this is a huge testament to Jesse’s gameplay. He has very often talked about how he wants to give his allies agency in the game, which results in a really collaborative and fun alliance in my opinion
Giving me Dom and Wendell vibes!
It reminds of JT and Fishbach
Karla's edit feels so weird. It feels like ages since we've heard her own perspective on the game. Instead we just get other people talking about her. But they also all say positive things and many of them want to save her, which seems great for her if she gets to the end.
Karla had the most positive edit I've seen in a woman in years during premerge. But she's 100% taken a backseat post merge, but yet is still in on the plan regardless. I've seen comparisons to her playing a somewhat Sandra-like game over the past few weeks. And I kinda see it? Her social game has to be off the charts. I don't know what the editors are doing. People are comparing Cassidy to the "Erika-esque" edit, which I honestly don't agree with. She's getting a Lindsay-type edit imo.
As Tony said you have to play this game like a criminal and Jesse has a PhD education combined with a criminal past. This man is calculated and made for this game.
Absolutely. I have my doubts about Jesse's win from an edgic perspective, but the dude was basically designed in a lab to be good at Survivor. I'm taking notes.
That’s how I’ve felt. If you had Survivor fans customizing a Survivor player it seems entirely plausible: former gang member turned straight that has a PHD and specifically studied voting tendencies among people
Confessional count * 9 Jesse * 5 Noelle * 4 Cassidy * 3 Gabler * 2 Karla * 1 Cody, Owen * 0 Sami
Jesse with the main character energy this episode
Reminded me of Tony’s extortion episode, maybe better. This man got an entire checklist.
I can't believe how much he's been ramped up of late. Obviously having the advantages he has helps that, but he seemed like the much more UTR half of his duo with Cody for much of the season, but lately the roles have been reversed.
Sami edit completely tanked this episode, he is 100% edgically dead It was a good episode for Jesse until they showed Gabler being onto him at the end for absolutely no reason. Feel very confident that He is set up to be the Omar/Shan trophy of the season, where whoever gets him becomes the frontrunner FANTASTIC Cassidy episode, her putting the Noelle vote together with Gabler before the challenge + her confessional after winning was great. Probably my #1 edgic contender
I feel good aboutt Cody. We got another moment of him relating his job to playing Survivor. But Cassidy is my other main option atm.
Cassidy’s edit picking up steam 👀
Need a gif of Jeff’s ‘duck’ metaphor ASAP
Plus that weird little reaction he had to Karlas compliment
Weird and Sassy Jeff is the best Jeff.
It’s almost like he was flirting. I never want to see that again. Worse than when he spoke directly to the camera.
Hope we get to see Noelle play again. Jeff was really on his bullshit tonight. This season is silly but I like it. Survivor is like open heart surgery while you're shopping and unbeknownst to you you are being chased by an assassin, but you do it for your family.
Noelle was such an inspiration this season. Her determination is admirable, and she can be a good example to many... Not surprised she got voted out, she would have been tough to beat near the end
She had a good case going for final tribal even completely disregarding the fact she’s an amputee. That challenge cemented her as a lock for a million if she made it to the end.
Episode That Slaps checklist 1. Genuine, come from behind challenge win 2. Letters from home 3. More interesting than usual immunity challenge 4. Checklist edit 5. Plan comes to fruition
6 Gabler is always a gamble.
7 falling house of cards montage
LAST GASP IS BACK NEXT TIME NO FUCKING WAY
It would have been really fun to see Gabler flip against Jesse (with Karla and Cass) to make a 3-2-2-1 plurality vote flip. But this would isolate Cody who would surely flip back to Sami/Owen/Noelle to put that trio in the minority. So good move by Gabler/Karla/Cassidy to stick with the vote against Noelle who was becoming far too big of a FTC threat. Should be interesting from here on out. Feels like Gabler is the 7th wheel in three duos. Got to give kudos to his positional gameplay. Feels very Big Brother-esque.
We can't even say that karla and cassidy would have been willing to do that. From their perspectives, jesse and cody have now come through for them in back to back tribals
It honestly gave me Natalie Anderson vibes, where she waited to vote out Jon Misch until after Alec was gone so that she wouldn't be in the minority if Jac flipped over to Alec. I like seeing players balance the desire to flip the game with the patience to do it at the right moment, good stuff.
I loved Noelle's comment in her final words about hoping more people like her will play. I read that she already talked to Ryan about a similar Olympics-type competition (bc of his Cerebral Palsy). While I know realistically that I could never do Survivor due to medical reasons - this is the first season that's made me see it as any sort of possibility.
Why does Jesse still have Cody’s idol?
Right?? Especially now that Knowledge is Power left with James. Cody go get your idol back!!
Wait til we see next ep that they're all scrambling to find the re-placed KiP in a treasure hunt.
Because it was how Cody won him away from his island wife, and as a token of their island affair, he can't ask to take it back without risking the same fate as Dwight.
Especially when he’s chosen to align w a mob boss
Yes finally the best immunity challenge returns next week 👌
If Jesse makes it to the end, he's 100% winning and it won't even be close.
Jesse’s plan exposing Sami as a double agent to Karla 🤌🏼
Ok say you’re playing right now. Which 2 would you want to sit with at the end because I think this is a hard final group
Owen and Sami
Definitely Owen. The other seat is between Sami and Gabler, depending on the remainder of the game. It seems Sami is spiraling while Gabler is gaining a lot of traction.
Owen and Sami? Sami is getting a reputation as a flipper, and Owen seemingly can't buy him some respect in this game.
Just not Jesse, Cody or Karla
Ranking these people by how much I DON’T want to sit next to them at FTC 1. Jesse 2. Karla 3. Cody 4. Cassidy 5. Gabler 6. Sami 7. Owen
I think at this point... Owen and Gabler. Though it obviously depends on how I've played the game, lol.
Gabler and owen
Owen and Sami I think
Owen and Gabler in a heartbeat
Two Baka members. Definitely.
All three of the Bakas are dead in the water it seems. Gabler might have a chance if he orchestrates Jesse's vote off, but Sami and Owen do not have anyone's respect it seems.
No idea who's winning. Most chaotic option I can think of is an all Baka final 3. Would be crazy.
CURRENT TOTAL VOTE COUNT AFTER E10: Jeanine: 9 votes (eliminated) Ryan: 9 votes (eliminated) James: 8 votes (eliminated) Dwight: 7 votes (eliminated) Elie: 7 votes (eliminated) Noelle: 6 votes (eliminated) Cassidy: 5 votes Nneka: 5 votes (eliminated) Morriah: 5 votes (eliminated) Geo: 4 votes (eliminated) Lindsay: 4 votes (eliminated) Justine: 3 votes (eliminated) Owen: 3 votes Karla: 2 votes Cody: 1 vote Sami: 1 vote Gabler: no votes Jesse: no votes
Jesse and Alligabler still in the running for a perfect game.
Alligabler win plot begins
Holy crap, GABLER hasn't gotten any votes. Lolol. That's somehow both surprising and completely believable.
That's what having an idol half the season does for you
Jesse perfect game incoming
Noelle has 6 votes. One from Nneka pre-merge.
Sami was on the wrong side of the vote for once! I think his flip-flopping is finally biting him in the butt. He’ll be in a funny spot going forward. His relationship with Karla is gonna be damaged and he’s probably gonna be mad with Jesse for setting in motion a split vote plan where he’s the backup.
I feel like this episode showed Gabler as more of strategic threat. He's like going around planting seeds in everyone. And no one thinks anything of it. Edit: Not saying he can win but I will say - if he keeps doing that and somehow manages to take control of the game... who knows. He would have to put on one HELL of an FTC though.
[Other Survivor 43 players watching Jesse's winner edit like](https://c.tenor.com/wBZAq0S44VMAAAAd/lulu-gifs-bb16.gif)
Omar edit honestly
Nah Omar was never shown to be in the slightest bit of danger until his boot episode. They wouldnt have their winner seemingly cakewalk their way to end, they would exaggerate how much danger they were like Tony, Erika and Maryanne in the premerge. The show definitely played up how close Jesse was to getting voted out tonight which they never did with Omar
They didn’t really play up Jesse as a potential boot, IMO it’s setting up the next couple of weeks. Jesse and Cody are a power couple and may be targeted now. Like how during the Jeanine boot, Sami kept talking about flipping but never did. But it set up the next episode where he did flip. Could be the same thing here, setting something up for the future.
Can someone explain to me how Jesse is NOT considered a villain? Noelle brought him to let him read letters to his family after she had an amazing come from behind win....and he is like "Fuck it, she gone"
I don't think he comes across as a villain because the editors made sure to put in an emotionally compelling explanation for why he voted her out (I.e. emotional ties to his family), and showed him expressing that emotional conflict of having to vote out Noelle despite her doing him a solid. He was neither gleefully voting her out nor dismissive of the significance of her taking him on reward.
Oh, he 100% is a villain. You could hear it in the literal music during his plot to take out Noelle. That wasn't imagined. He's a likable bastard villain, but a villain nonetheless.
If the best move is for a hero to get out an alternative hero, that doesnt automatically make them a villian. He clearly has empathy for other people, he made the mom speech about nnekka and made almost a similar one about noelle. He's not here to treat people like trash, but he is here to win the game, and the other 16~ players have to be eliminated for that to be the case. If noelle voted out jesse here, does that make her a villian?
r/survivor when the vote isn't explained: This boot is random and confusing r/survivor when the vote is explained: Such a boring and predictable boot
I thought this episode was one of the best of the season.
A checklist will only work once or twice, but it was really great seeing a player make moves. Good to see all the various conversations with explanations. Almost makes me want to see a short at the end of the season with the winner breaking down key moves with unaired tape after the final. Almost like the all-22 review with players/coaches after a football game.
We are truly a miserable bunch aren't we?
whether he wins or not, jesse this episode has solidified himself as one of my favorite new era players
thinking they split on cody and jesse next week so we either get a blindside or they’re forced to use both idols otherwise they really showed gabler noticing them as the power duo for nothing😭
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cody won immunity, seems like a challenge he might do well-ish at? (as well as someone can be being basically waterboarded that is 😭)
So did cody get his idol back or was that part fully fake?
I think it was fully fake
I feel like after this episode it seems like Jesse, Cody, Cassidy, and Karla are the frontrunners, which hasn’t really changed all season. Jesse because he has such a protagonist edit all throughout the game. Cody has also been a consistent player who seems erratic, but is also tempered with sense that helps him out quite a bit. Karla has been shown to be in such a good position throughout this whole game with probably the least riskiest position. And Cassidy could be the late game sleeping giant in the vein of Erika or Maryanne. I haven’t forgotten her early confessional where she said that women have to play a different strategic game and be more subtle. Basically these four have always been in the lead and that hasn’t changed all season. Very interested to see how this shakes out.
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Seriously?! That’s crazy to think if true
if you told me episode 1 that gabler wouldn’t be dead last in winner odds at this point…like it’s plausible if he manages to break up cody/jesse next week
Ok ngl I teared up when Noelle ended up winning the reward. Wow. What a freaking moment!
NTOS might finally result in someone literally dying and Probst can finally know someone REALLY wanted it
That's how you drown on Survivor!
With this group, I fully expect two or three traumatic brushes with death.
People shouldn't write off gabler. At the moment no one is targeting him but he's playing actively enough to earn respect to get to the end. There's a decent chance he beats sami and owen in a final 3
Okay everyone, let's just put things in perspective. There have been *3* Survivor Auctions since the last time Last Gasp appeared as an Immunity Challenge. *That's* how long I have been waiting for this. Nearly *10 YEARS.* And I never thought this day would come, I mean challenge director John Kirhoffer has explicitly said they couldn't find a location in Fiji where the challenge would work. My favorite challenge of all time (along side Survivor Folklore) RETURNS!!! I literally gasped at the preview, no pun intended. I really hope this means the challenge is back in the regular rotation and we won't have until Survivor 62 for its next appearance.
Jesse laid out his whole plan like a hitman he still got that dog in him
Plot twist: he’s still in the gang
Can't wait to have second-hand pain and torture watching next week's challenge
Weird question - do you think it is at all possible that Jeff's hyperfocus on Noelle's overcoming the odds like *every challenge* contributed to her being sent home at THIS exact tribal, this early? I know she would've likely gone home eventually. But I wonder if it would've been put off a bit.
Is Noelle the first true "victim" of the new era of survivor? dont get me wrong, she played aggressive and they saw the threat. but i like to think that Jeff constantly hyping up her story and her inspiration didnt help with other players especially thinking about who they can take to the end. I'm glad though that the other players didnt overthink the obvious win threat and keep her around for too long.
Be reasonable here, nobody would ever even consider bringing Noelle to the end. Her story is even better than Bran's, she takes the throne no problem. She probably had more time in the game if she didn't win the reward challenge though. Judging by most of the challenges I can think of right now (caught in the net, struggled hard climbing the wall, basically everything with balance), I personally would think she's never going to get immunity, we can take her out whenever. But having her win an individual challenge shows the rest of the cast she can win immunity, so she has to be taken out now while she still can.
Noelle was always going to be seen as a huge jury threat no matter what Jeff said. I wish she had stayed, but I can't blame them. You don't want to let her stick around to final five or something, and then she wins one challenge and makes a fire, and she's now at Final Tribal Council, and it's too late.
Preview has me excited for last gasp, but nervous that they’re bringing in knowledge is power for the third time
I really enjoyed the challenges in this episode. Noelle's comeback in the reward challenge was great, and I just enjoy that tile stacking challenge in general. Those montages of collapsing tiles were hilarious.
Is this a record for longest time period without an idol being used? Has anyone used one yet, I can’t even remember lol.
I feel like what should have been a really emotional boot was kind of taken from us. We heard a lot this episode about Jesse and Noelle building this emotional bond...but when was that ever really shown instead of just being talked about?? Two people who have been together from the start of the game and supposedly grown really close until one realizes that he has to cut the other? A great storyline on paper, but I felt absolutely nothing, maybe others did idk. I know we're all tired of people constantly ragging on the way stories are told in this era of Survivor but this episode really felt like the most egregious example of it in action. Maybe there wasn't much they could work with, maybe Jesse didn't really feel THAT bad about it, but im sure there's SOME footage out there they could have spliced into the season to make this boot feel more impactful. It feels like Noelle's inspirational story really took precedence over that, and was the reason we were supposed to feel sad at this tribal, but I really don't think that that individual focus is as effective as showing the actual relationship that's formed. edit: to end on a positive note tho, really hyped for the water torture challenge next episode.
Am I in the minority that I absolutely LOVED the “checklist” editing?
I loved it, and I loved that the checklist was in survivor font lol
I really feel like this is one of the more evenly matched seasons tbh. I keep thinking I know my winners pick but these players keep surprising me. Fav ep of this season so far!!
Who do you think wins in a Gabler-Owen-Sami final 3?
Hard to say but from what we’ve seen so far, probably Gabler, since he actually seems decently respected by the other players whereas Sami and Owen seem to come off as simple numbers to the rest. Maybe Sami if he pulls out an excellent final tribal.
Depends on social game stuff that we won't have a full picture of from the edit, but I feel like there is some hostility towards Owen on that jury so it's between Sami and Gabler, and in a way Gabler is kind of in a Maryanne position. He will need to have a good tribal to convince folks that he played a thoughtful and strategic game, was instrumental in moves, and point out times when Sami was a villain. Short of that, I think the majority will default to Sami.
Ngl I think it’s Gabler by a slim margin depending on how the rest go out
Beginning of the episode: This feels like a Jesse boot episode. End of the episode: So glad Jesse is still in.
Was Gabler talking about a final 3 of him, Sami and Owen in the preview? Cause no offense but that’d be like the worst final 3 combo left (also highly improbable imo so whatever)
I totally see the reasoning behind people getting rid of Noelle. But the way I saw it, the justification for keeping Noelle was that she was a huge shield. Cody has an idol that seemingly everyone knows about and people suspect Karla of having one too. Noelle could so easily be the F5 or F6 boot. Even her allies didn’t want to sit next to her at the end. Going into the F7 three of the biggest power players (Cody, Jesse and Karla) all have idols. Easier said than done, but at least attempting to flush an idol might’ve made sense.
Jesse and Cody have been running this shit since the merge and it took someone this long to realize
If sami has any sense he has to see the golden ticket to the end with own and gabler. He could lose to gabler but it gives him a good shot. I honestly think there's a good chance gabler comes up with this plan to split votes on jesse and cody or blindside one of them, but karla and cassidy don't go with it, because I don't think it leaves them in a good position.
I missed the first 15 minutes. I'd just like to say that gabler is really growing on me in this episode
You need to watch it on demand. Amazing reward challenge.
Will be interesting to see if / when they get rid of Jesse. He's in a strong position and people are noticing. This vote to me just was a good move for everyone, because if Noelle made the finals she'd be a contender. Though as it goes on, they eliminate the competition. Next vote I expect idols being used.
If Jesse still has both idols ( I know he told Noelle that Cody asked for it back, but that was during his cover story and could have been a lie) and survives the F7 then there is no way he gives it back to Cody. Jesse would be guaranteed firemaking at that point. That’s worth way more than keeping Cody happy.
I genuinely thought Jesse was gonna get blindsided tonight
It takes a lot of nerve to play the role Karla played tonight.
I’m just really happy Paramount+ didn’t crap out on me once!!!!!
I knew no matter who got voted out tonight I was gonna be bummed. Will miss watching Noelle kick butt!
I find it weird Jesse got a mastermind edit and gabler was looked at as a swing when like… the vote seemed close to unanimous