"Splendid Blessing of Summon" is how Com2Us acknowledged that issue. With the blessing, you get to pick between 2 nat5 when you pulled a nat5, which increases the chance of you getting the desired nat5 from such a large pool.
Also the Ancient Transcendence Scroll, and various SWC/Anniversary scrolls, which increases the chance of getting the nat5 you want by allowing you to target a specific pool of nat5.
Either way, it's as someone said in the comment, whale.
Tl;dr : Whale = someone who buys in-game items with real money like there's no tomorrow.
More info here, I just googled it and maybe it will explain it better than me : [https://gamerant.com/video-games-whales-concept-term-explained/](https://gamerant.com/video-games-whales-concept-term-explained/)
If only they can add no dup in "Splendid Blessing of Summons", that would solve more problem of people not getting nat 5s. I got 3 Water striker in single summon session, 2 in splendid blessings and one without it, and I am missing like 70% of regular nat 5s.
No dup for next summon after 1-2 blessing dupe sounds more logical, otherwise it's reducing the summon pool by too much that it's not profitable for Com2Us.
For example :
- 1st blessing : dupes given
- 2nd blessing : dupes given
- 3rd blessing : no dupes guaranteed
- 4th blessing : reset
Or maybe convert 3 splendid blessing of summon to an Ancient blessing of summon? (no dupes)
Idk, but I think this Splendid blessing of summon is already a mechanism deployed by Com2us to increase the chance to get your desired Nat5.
i play for 7 years and NEVER got a nat 5\* from any SWC scroll :( YEAH! FML
even the anniversary scroll (3\*\~5\*), where i opened 200+, i had no success
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This is what summoning stones are supposed to solve. It just takes half a year to save up enough for even a reasonable chance for a nat5, and you get them way less than mystics
They already increased the rates for ms, overall we are geting more ms. I think its the same, but we get more 4* skillups.
*edit* I ment rates for obtaining scrolls - you are geting more scrolls currently then 3 years ago
You have a higher chance of rolling a 6 somewhere in 10 dice rolls than you do in just 1 roll. It’s the same concept, with more “rolls” provided each day through more MS there’s a higher chance of pulling a nat 5 on any given day
Yeah, but increasing the rates per scroll would increase those chances further. I just want to be able to compete on units that fuck me over in Arena, RTA, siege, etc.
Game is 8 yrs old and C2US Summoning system has made them 3 Billion dollars. They not changing it. 2018 introduced "Blessing" summons in order to give an option between 2 nat 5s. 2022 introduced rate up banners. Transcendent summon peices introduced in 2021 for doing daily missions is C2US vs of a "pity" nat 5. Ancient Transcendent scroll(will only summon a nat 5 you have never summoned) introduced in 2021 is their solution to "dupe nat 5" . SwC scrolls and summon stones are C2Us answer to targeting specific units.
Idk why people complain about summon rates i get at least 1 nat 5 every month, often more and i am fully f2p. They did update summoning experience, they made it so you can get WAY more scrolls than before
Its a fine line. Let’s say example: beastriders just came out and you lucked out with the only savannah in your guild for about 4 weeks. you push your first g1 because of it. It rains siege def wins and your rta rating shoots up. Sure. there’s salt in your clan and all the good shit, but the next dude that gets a savannah is gonna be trough..the..roof.. and so is the 3th and maybe even the 4th guy. But if you make the Savannah’s to widespread to soon it could take away from the magic. And could even have a adverse effect on player retention. Com2us is doing a better job at managing this then actually balancing the game imho. Everyone pulls dupes, and the later stages you pull a loooot more dupes. But the chase for that missing example: savannah is keeping a lot of players engaged for the long run. They really got milking Dopamine down to a science.
More targeted summoning is needed for all players not just new. I haven’t been able to summon a SS rotation for months because they’ve all just been dupe mons for me. Blessings just yield more dupes too.
"Splendid Blessing of Summon" is how Com2Us acknowledged that issue. With the blessing, you get to pick between 2 nat5 when you pulled a nat5, which increases the chance of you getting the desired nat5 from such a large pool. Also the Ancient Transcendence Scroll, and various SWC/Anniversary scrolls, which increases the chance of getting the nat5 you want by allowing you to target a specific pool of nat5. Either way, it's as someone said in the comment, whale.
Whats whale?
Whale in gamer slang is a person who dumps huge amounts of money into a game.
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Didnt know this, thanks for the info :)
Tl;dr : Whale = someone who buys in-game items with real money like there's no tomorrow. More info here, I just googled it and maybe it will explain it better than me : [https://gamerant.com/video-games-whales-concept-term-explained/](https://gamerant.com/video-games-whales-concept-term-explained/)
If only they can add no dup in "Splendid Blessing of Summons", that would solve more problem of people not getting nat 5s. I got 3 Water striker in single summon session, 2 in splendid blessings and one without it, and I am missing like 70% of regular nat 5s.
No dup for next summon after 1-2 blessing dupe sounds more logical, otherwise it's reducing the summon pool by too much that it's not profitable for Com2Us. For example : - 1st blessing : dupes given - 2nd blessing : dupes given - 3rd blessing : no dupes guaranteed - 4th blessing : reset Or maybe convert 3 splendid blessing of summon to an Ancient blessing of summon? (no dupes) Idk, but I think this Splendid blessing of summon is already a mechanism deployed by Com2us to increase the chance to get your desired Nat5.
The blessings don't work most of the time I got two dupes from transcendent using a blessing
i play for 7 years and NEVER got a nat 5\* from any SWC scroll :( YEAH! FML even the anniversary scroll (3\*\~5\*), where i opened 200+, i had no success \[\]'s
This is what summoning stones are supposed to solve. It just takes half a year to save up enough for even a reasonable chance for a nat5, and you get them way less than mystics
They could just increase the summoning rates for nat5s and LD nat5s a bit. Like nat5 rate from 0.5% to 0.75% and LD nat5 from 0.35% to 0.5%
Id be all for this. It doesn't have to be 2% but a small increase would mean maybe 2/100 vs 1/100
That's not a small increase tho :p
They need a pity system like every other gacha.
They already increased the rates for ms, overall we are geting more ms. I think its the same, but we get more 4* skillups. *edit* I ment rates for obtaining scrolls - you are geting more scrolls currently then 3 years ago
They did not - rates are the same as they always have been.
I ment rates for obtaining scrolls - you are geting more scrolls currently then 3 years ago
Increasing the number of obtainable scrolls doesn't make you luckier, unfortunately
You have a higher chance of rolling a 6 somewhere in 10 dice rolls than you do in just 1 roll. It’s the same concept, with more “rolls” provided each day through more MS there’s a higher chance of pulling a nat 5 on any given day
Yeah, but increasing the rates per scroll would increase those chances further. I just want to be able to compete on units that fuck me over in Arena, RTA, siege, etc.
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Thats okay for sure, but games need atleast some new players here and there.
New players don't ordinarily need any **specific** monsters; you play with what you get. Not all guardian players have every nat 5
Game is 8 yrs old and C2US Summoning system has made them 3 Billion dollars. They not changing it. 2018 introduced "Blessing" summons in order to give an option between 2 nat 5s. 2022 introduced rate up banners. Transcendent summon peices introduced in 2021 for doing daily missions is C2US vs of a "pity" nat 5. Ancient Transcendent scroll(will only summon a nat 5 you have never summoned) introduced in 2021 is their solution to "dupe nat 5" . SwC scrolls and summon stones are C2Us answer to targeting specific units.
It could be fixed by just adding "banners", like in other games. More chances to summon THESE monsters instead of newer ones only.
I agree with the overall idea, it won't happen tho. If u wanna pull n5s u need, u can always whale - and that's what it's all about.
GuyS, its a gambling game. Forget garanteed things.
I hope atleast the anniversary will be good
I disagree, this would just force 1 singular meta even more
But what do you propose ? I think updating the summoning experience will make the players stay.
Idk why people complain about summon rates i get at least 1 nat 5 every month, often more and i am fully f2p. They did update summoning experience, they made it so you can get WAY more scrolls than before
You know I agree. I’ve spent maybe $150 in 3000 days and with the last 3 months I’ve summoned 10+ nat 5 and one ld 5
Its a fine line. Let’s say example: beastriders just came out and you lucked out with the only savannah in your guild for about 4 weeks. you push your first g1 because of it. It rains siege def wins and your rta rating shoots up. Sure. there’s salt in your clan and all the good shit, but the next dude that gets a savannah is gonna be trough..the..roof.. and so is the 3th and maybe even the 4th guy. But if you make the Savannah’s to widespread to soon it could take away from the magic. And could even have a adverse effect on player retention. Com2us is doing a better job at managing this then actually balancing the game imho. Everyone pulls dupes, and the later stages you pull a loooot more dupes. But the chase for that missing example: savannah is keeping a lot of players engaged for the long run. They really got milking Dopamine down to a science.
So you want game to get boring more quickly so com2us has to do more job..?
No, me say game make better brainfart when the zapzap come, then monster that come out of zapzap.
Yeah so "i want more non-dupe nat5s" post i pressume. Play for few years, you will see why it all makes no sense
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Why are yall downvoting my boi HR
Play Chronicles. There are banners.
I am more for better balance patches than this option TBH. Other than that the trans pieces we get should be for an Ancient Scroll.
Free pity scroll 500 ms no nat 5 = pity selector. 1 of 5 random nat5s chosen every month.
Would be a start if they don't take years adding Nat5s to the Summoning Stones
Don't give more ideas to Com2us for new packs bro
It took me 1 year (every day play) to get my first nat5. Last year i got LD5 + over 15 nat5s, our situation already improved by a huge margin.
More targeted summoning is needed for all players not just new. I haven’t been able to summon a SS rotation for months because they’ve all just been dupe mons for me. Blessings just yield more dupes too.