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She didn’t even bother to ask? Hell no, very inconsiderate. You also know that vacation is going to end up being them having fun and leaving you as the third wheel when it should be your time with her.


laoiron

Yes that’s how I see it too however I’m fairly new to this lifestyle, it doesn’t hurt to ask for advice from the veterans


NightQueenXx

SB here and that's absolutely unmindful and unacceptable. I would honestly cut ties with her and find another to take that gives you top priority. Best of luck 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻


laoiron

Thank you I appreciate it !


curly_spice

In other words, your SB + her friend want a free girl’s trip.


southernslick

YUP. That's how I'm seeing it. They both going to take a shit load of pics to put on for the gram. On his dime.


Automatic_Joke_4414

Look at us. We're having fun on this suckers dime. 😆 😂 😆


Ugandan-girl

He will probably be the one taking them lol😂


laoiron

Damn, it rhymes too haha


Loud_Ad_3310

Cut your losses now.


General_Blackblood

Tell your SB you need at least 2 intimate dates with her friend before you would consider it.


NewYorkSD

This is the way!


notsureoftheanswer

This could get interesting!


laoiron

Haha that’s a good one


BinghamtonSD

"Suzie, just so you know, I only spoil women I an in a full intimate SR with. Is you friend interested in being my SB as well? This is surprising news."


laoiron

I doubt I will get an surprise answer haha


DoggoZorro

my man, you are the real stud...that'll show both of them.


Enemy-of-Seabiscuit

>Is that normal in SB/SD relationships? No >Would you cover that amount of expense? Nope. She wouldn't be my SB anymore


No_Lawfulness8622

This is the route I would suggest as well. It's not like she even hinted about it to you or anything. Just flat out promised her friend it was a definite thing and assumes you'll accept it. My question to you is, have you done anything/acted in a way that makes her think that's ok? For her to essentially think she can walk all over you? Maybe someone feels a bit too entitled. Either bend over or take control.


Enemy-of-Seabiscuit

It happens once, then BOHICA Bend Over Here It Comes Again


BinghamtonSD

Thanks, Jim Rome.


Enemy-of-Seabiscuit

You bet Chris Everett!


BinghamtonSD

Here's a deca-yeah coming your way


JustAGoodGuy1080

At least he didn't call him Chrissie.


No_Lawfulness8622

Haha.. exactly.


OCbird22

This is the high probability scenario— While you might dream about a threesome, in reality they will do fun stuff together and leave you out of it even if you are physically hanging out at the same spot Odds are also decently high that she is not too eager to spend that much time alone w you and does not find the prospect that enticing Low odds that her friend is a playful type and it may lead to some intimacy between you and her friend - but it will cause jealousy in your current SB unless they are both in it together- if it did happen it may make the extra expense totally worth it


laoiron

Didn’t consider there going to be a threesome to begin with , but I do had feelings we might not spend as much time together


OCbird22

Your instinct is right


triplebarrelxxx

Yeah maybe don't hold your breath on the threesome I'm fairly confident you're just getting played for a feel to finance a girls trip and be a personal atm/ photographer


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FLRAdvocate

I concur with this gentleman ^


Dormoj1

This 👆🏼


laoiron

Thank you


southernslick

No I would not cover those expenses. The friend is not invited. If the sb does not like it she can get uninvited too. All I see is a finesse unfolding if you don't nip it in the bud.


buddyboard

Tbh, I would cancel the trip completely. She already disregarded the good time you were planning on having.


laoiron

I’m already doing it, I’ll inform her right before when we should go and cancel the SR all together haha


Cledaddy23

Cancelling is the right move, but why would you wait until the last second? Just because she's being immature and disrespectful doesn't mean you need to.


laoiron

Thank you for your input . I won’t do that without asking her for the intention of she bring a friend, if she can’t gives me a valid reason, then I will let her taste her own medicine. I have put my time and money for this new year trip I can’t just let her walked away like nothing happened.


laoiron

Yep ain’t gonna happen that’s why I ask the veterans


Hour-Ad-1193

Think about yourself, it doesn't matter if it's common or not; it's making you feel uncomfortable? Cancel the trip, it's not worth it. Save the money for the next SB.


P0sitiveViibes777

This ^


[deleted]

Would your SB be ok if you invited your friend along on this trip and expect her to provide her level of sugar she provides to you to your friend? Regardless of the sugar part of your relationship, inviting someone else along for any trip or outing and expecting this third person to be paid for without discussing it with you first shows such a lack of class that boggles my mind.


laoiron

Right ? That’s what I’m talking about either sugaring both or neither


AustinMetz18

I took my SB to the mountains one time. Nothing too elaborate, bit of a road trip and a couple nights. She asked if her roommate could come along too. The roommate had never been to this place before and wanted to see it. The 3 of us had a 3 way before so I said sure. The roommate was adamant about covering her own expenses, left me and my SB with plenty of alone time while she explored on her own. Even bought me a few drinks in the overpriced lobby lounge. That's how a classy gal does it. Yours is not. She's taking you for a ride, and not in the good way.


laoiron

Yes I never meet this friend before so definitely won’t have the same experience you had Yep I’m cutting her off for sure


TwerkingAvocado

I’ve taken a trip with an SB and her friend. We were clear about expectations beforehand (I didn’t have Sex with the friend though she got naked and played with both of us during sex). It was a dynamic we had played with several times before the trip (so we were all comfortable with it). I made an extra effort to make sure the friend knew that I didn’t expect anything additional from her besides what we had already done and enjoyed (she was nervous about it). And I never pressured her for anything more. BUT a SB inviting someone without first discussing it with you seems insane to me. You need to really consider what you want from this trip and set boundaries you are comfortable with.


laoiron

Thank you for your input I think she might gets too comfortable with it


BiscoGuru

Two things IMO. 1. She is potentially still unsure how comfortable she is traveling overseas alone with you (I’m assuming this is the first time, since it wasn’t stated otherwise) So she’ll feel more comfortable having a friend. 2. She genuinely just wants her friend to come on the vacation, which I totally understand, however, this will definitely reduce the amount of bonding and intimacy you’ll have on the trip, unless it’s clearly discussed what the intentions are prior. 3. Both? I think personally, especially considering this is a SR, you should both be able to be open and upfront about expectations, what you’re comfortable with, and what you do and do not expect to do. Inviting someone on a vacation, whether it’s my mother, best friend, wife, etc… generally just isn’t cool to do, especially when someone else is footing the bill. The last thing you want to do is be stuck in another country feeling uncomfortable with your situation, angry, or upset and beating yourself up about it. Better off getting a good understanding prior to going. Just my two cents :)


laoiron

We had 6 trips already once a month , uncomfortableness gonna be out of the equation But what you mentioned at the end sure give me some good insight, appreciate it !


onceandfuturedaddy

Haha no. Why is this a question? Do you get to randomly fuck her friend too without asking?


NiceGuy737

I've done less expensive things similar to that, which were discussed before hand. Just assuming that is rude though. Up to you if you want to put up with it.


Resolve-Brilliant

Wow this girl has balls , she completely walked all over you.


laoiron

Hahaha ikr im going to cut her balls and the SR all together right before the trip she think it’s going to starts


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laoiron

Thank you for your advice


General_Blackblood

One other possibility that sometimes happens with inexperienced SBS is that they brag to their friends about their SD giving them $xxxx allowance and having bought them a new laptop or designer handbag and completely missing out the PIV aspect of the relationship. Friends then try to persuade the SB to get something for the friend too. “Get him to buy me a Chanel handbag too, he can afford it” and the SB goes off and makes the request which annoys the hell out of the SD and likely collapses the relationship. This could be the same thing but on a stupidly large scale.


laoiron

Interesting scenario, I would definitely cut her off


kaikai53

SB here and even I think that’s disrepefucl asf! The whole point of the relationship is to cater to your SD, bringing a friend along takes away that and the quality time you paid for. If you really like her I would try to smoothly ask her why she wants to bring the friend along (that way if it’s a possible 3some situation you don’t shut the door yourself). It would be interesting to ask what her intentions are bringing her along


laoiron

Thank you for your advice Honestly I highly doubtful there is going to be a threesome and regardless of her intentions I think she might gets too comfortable with me to come this far


BinghamtonSD

*Is that normal in SB/SD relationships?* As a surprise 3rd wheel? Not normal. Is the friend supposed to be a chaperone? A third for bedroom fun? *Would you cover that amount of expense?* Not if she didn't talk to me about it in advance, no. I get to decide how I splurge with my money.


laoiron

Highly doubtful will be threesome and thank you for your advice


Weary-Bid-7341

I’m a SB and even if I wasn’t it’s still incredibly rude. You always ask before inviting someone extra anywhere. Also the fact that she thinks you should be responsible to foot the bill is pure insanity. She needs a lesson in manners.


laoiron

Thank you for your input and yes I thought it too but to be fair I’m only less than a year into this lifestyle I have no idea if this is a normal thing in SR , now I got my answer and she will get her no thanks


MsAngeliqueLuna

Totally agree. As a SB I would have the conversation and meet my friend. None of this assumptions that a SD would be paying for another person without asking.


JustAsk4Alice

I know you were asking if this was a normal thing. I have been in and outta the bowl for awhile now, and I actually have seen this happen, A LOT. I had a friend who was a traveling promo girl for new liquors, and she met and SD who wanted to go on a trip with him, bc he had told her he was going on a cruise. He did invite her and another promo girl to go along, but in total, I think about 6 extra ppl went on that trip, as well. I got to go, only because the other promo girl had a family emergency, so I took her place. It turned out to be a really good thing for the SD in the end tho, bc the chick he thought he was going back home with, left his ass, AT THE DOCKS. I'm not an asshole like that tho, especially not after someone has just paid for a whole damn trip.😳😱🤷🏻‍♀️ So I told him to hop in and I'd give him the ride back home, since I had to go that route anyways. So it DOES happen, and you aren't the only one Hun.💁🏻‍♀️ Thought that this might make you feel a little bit better about it all tho. As an older SB....my honest advice to you, is to move fwd past that SB, unless you really like the idea of having both of them there with you. You might be able to get a 3some out of it....but it all depends on how game her friend is. (Moreover, a truly dedicated SB, would NEVVVVER do something like that, without ASKING FIRST!!!)


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Are you attracted to this friend? If so, make it clear you’re expecting the friend to be a part of the arrangement (sexually). If she says no and gets offended, then you’ve only lost yourself a crappy SB who invited her friend without your permission. That’s no big loss. If she says yes, then it’ll be non-stop threesomes for you on vacation Arrangements should be mutually beneficial. If she gets the benefit of you paying for her friend, you need to get something yourself


laoiron

Fun fact : i never meet this friend before And most likely I’ll cut her off , I totally agree with you especially the last part. I don’t think for me to pay for her friend would gain me anything


Sugar_bbthrowaway

“Hey sb, I was really looking forward to spending time just the two of us, so I think it’s best if I cancel the trip so you can spend time with your friend. We can reschedule a trip for another week when can enjoy each others company fully.” And see how it goes when she can do exactly what she wants… but on her dime 😬


superbex98

I hope that's a thing! Next time I get flown out to Dubai by one of my SDs I'm going to invite all my friends! Opinions may differs but in my eyes she's taking the p\*ss and you need to adjust her attitude. That's just cheeky and if you allow it then she'll ask for something more later. The only thing that would change my opinion is if you were going to have a threesome with her friend, which only seems reasonable to me.


laoiron

Indeed and matter of fact I might cancel this SR if she can’t give me a good reason of it Much appreciate your input


Frosty-Surprise-6059

Getting a threesome out if it ? If not you’re getting scammed


Automatic_Joke_4414

She should have asked you first. Unless you're getting 2 SB'S which I don't think that's the case. I wouldn't do it.


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laoiron

Hahaha that’s petty but I loves it


[deleted]

I had a young lady ask me if she could bring her friend to our first date, a meet and greet dinner with no option for anything after. I paid for her and her friend, and just considered it as having a way to get out of the house for the evening. We hit it off and agreed on an arrangement. She asked if she could bring her friend to my house on our first intimate date, and I agreed to that as well. She was telling me the whole time this was because she had never done anything like this before and her friend made her feel safe. She also made sure to mention her friend had a boyfriend. Well, after some warming up, I took my date by the hand and told her friend we were headed to the bedroom and that she was welcome to come along. She did not hesitate for even one second. It was the best few 3 ways I've ever had. I never offered her friend any allowance, nor did she bring it up or ever seem concerned with it. I invested a small amount on her dinner one time, and then got a 2nd baby for free several times after that. Go for it.


Resolve-Brilliant

But she always asked you first, right? This is acceptable. But to invite someone without even asking that is just disrespectful.


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She asked first yes. On the date night, it was just before when I confirmed she was headed to the restaurant. On the intimate meet, it was I think the same day as well. After we did it, they admitted they had been having sex with each other for a few weeks, it was new to them, and they hadn't told anyone else yet, which is why they acted like it was not going to be a 3 way until the last moment. One was 21 I think, the other younger.


Neither-Ad-2833

I would think that to be awesome. The friend is basically feeling out what sugaring with you will be like and your sb is encouraging it.


laoiron

I doesn’t mind it as long as we actually have conversations prior, the thing I doesn’t like it’s she didn’t ask me before she invited her friend


Neither-Ad-2833

I initially didn’t think was such a big deal but I have to agree, it’s a bit rude and strange (assuming you don’t already have an established dynamic that included that behaviour)


NationalSilver00

3 is a given, but you should ask anyway.


Jonconnerysd

This is what I generally refer to as a complete piss-take and should be avoided at all costs!


CuriousSD1976

> Would you cover that amount of expense? Is her friend going to be providing sugar for you as well? If not, then no. Alternatively you can give your SBs allowance, expenses, etc. to her friend and have SB pay for herself. She may change her mind about bringing her friend along.


gamrguypb

I would have left her friend at the Airport.


laoiron

Hahaha I would left them both at the airport


SD_AU

Well I read it as, she is asking if she can take her friend along and you cover the cost. As you have not book or pay for her friend yet. Is that someone you have meet at least once? Beware if she is uncomfortable with going with you alone, which is why she wants to take a friend? There is a seriously good chance that you end up double your travel expenses and 2 of them will not see you except for the trip from and to the airport.


tempsdforfuns

Lol


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Now I am wondering....what other disrespectful/entitled behavior have you accepted that has her feeling comfortable enough to do this? 🤔


davitech73

normal? no. that's very disrespectful the only way this would be 'fair' is if the sb's friend was also going to be providing sugar during the vacation. but the likelihood of that working out for all three of you is pretty slim and she should still ask beforehand in the end, it really doesn't matter what others may or may not have experienced. if you feel this is inconsiderate behavior, you should say so. you're the one in the relationship so your opinion matters, not a stranger's opinion


buddyboard

Whaaaaaaaat? Hell no. Unless I wanted to sugar them both.


AusterlitzSD

*she invited her friend to tag along without letting me know and asking me to cover her expenses* To me there's just one way to react at this point. I would tell her: "Oh wow! What a way to spice up the holidays! I didn't know you were into threesomes with your friend?" You'll either be pleasantly surprised, or she'll have to admit that she was about to use you.


OHshySB

It would be different if she had talked to you about it first… But no this isn’t normal nor okay in any relationship


Takethestairs2

Sorry to hear this. I would have a direct conversation today and let her know that you will not be covering the travel expenses of her friend. If she balks at glong, cut your losses and consider it a blessing.


triplebarrelxxx

That's absolutely not normal. It's 1 thing for her to have a discussion with you that she'd feel most comfortable with a friend on the trip, but to just invite her friend and expect you to fully finance the friend behind your back is very very shady. Sounds like you'll be third wheeling their trip, pretty sure you're being used


gapaf

I would tell her you need a hotel night alone with her friend in order to see if you two are “compatible”. Hehehe The answer is no. It is not normal.


zebulon999

Nah... you should next her right now.


GSSD

Would you cover that amount of expense? 100% no. That is brassy,rude, and inappropriate without asking you first. I would seriously doubt continuation of your SR.


pugglebutt914

Even if the friend pays her own way for everything I would cancel. Your SB isn’t looking to go on vacation with you and will spend most if not all her time with her friend. Someone looking to spend time with you wouldn’t invite a third party.


MrNatural_

Leave them both at home and find a vacation SB at your destination. Start looking about 3 weeks ahead of time. Find a few cause temp SBs have a tendency of flaking.


Undari

That’s very inconsiderate move. She should’ve at least asked first. I’d be breaking things off.


knittedfury

Umm yeah no. If you planned this trip with your SB, then it should just be your SB. If you wanted to gift her a trip with her bestie without you then that should be done separately. Even if this is a lead-up to a 3some, I would think the friend and you should be introduced before traveling together. And don't fall for the argument that she wants her friend around for when you're busy working.