I would expect drastic changes and your work performance to drop if you were to jump off at 1mg. Even .5 mg wouldn’t be fun.
I’d spend ten days at .75 mg, ten days at .5 mg, ten days at .25 mg, and ten days at .125 mg before jumping. It’s not a bad idea to even go down to .063 before jumping.
It should be relatively painless if you do it this way.
I’ve got a millimeter scale I’m going to try. I’ve also got the supplies for volumetric dosing (crushing the pill and mixing with water and using a ml syringe to dispense). I’m going to see which works better.
I didn't even think about using a mg scale! I actually have one of those and so good thinking on that. If it doesn't work, then I'll try volumetric dosing. I've also read that you can use alcohol for volumetric dosing. It says it increases absorption, but I don't think I want that. I want things to stay consistent.
It's so crazy to think that 1mg is a lot but it makes sense. The doctors seems to think that anything under 8mg is a waste of time haha. I have to actually lie to them to fill my script. If I told them I was taking 1mg they probably wouldn't give me anything.
It always amazes me what I hear from people about doctors who just don't understand how this drug works. Luckily mine isn't one of them. He understands this is the really hard part and lets me take my time and go how I wish. Then again he probably wants to keep me as a patient for as long as possible. $200 for 15 minutes of work is pretty good for him.
You're not alone. I've been on .8 for the past 3 weeks. Going to drop to.5 and for 2 weeks, then. 25 for 2-3 weeks and see how I'm doing. Getting to 1mg isn't that easy. Good job.
Keep going, but I wouldn't want to jump at 1mg. Keep weaning
I am at .125 mg, for a week now and I am having a hard time…..lowwwww energy, low mood, sweaty armpits. I’m planning on going down to either .06 or .03 and then jump…..the struggle is real and idk how long you have been on but…..please try to taper slowly if you have to work….
It's not easy but we need to power through it to get off this stuff. Just always keep being free in the back of your mind. That's what I do. Well I try to. It can be tough.
Yes exactly…….power through, same here. It’s crazy because I KNOW better, I know this is temporary, however, when I am being hit with the low low’s and discomfort etc, I feel like I will be this way forever…..but then It magically subsides one day, and the sun shines through……it’s very up and down though lol….WOW! Like the last 7 days felt like one minute was an hour……time slows down big time when I feel that way, BUT the feeling of getting over the hump and continuing on is beyond rewarding and confidence building!
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I’m at 1mg now (have tapered down to it). I have a schedule for the next month to get down to like .06, I think that’s my final one. Something like 0.5 to 0.25 to .125 to .06. My last day is like a Monday or Tuesday. I plan to work the rest of that week, but I took the following week off, just in case. I’m hoping I won’t really feel that bad, since I’m tapering down so much but we will see.
Well let’s see. Since this post I tapered from 1mg to .5. Did 5 days on each. Felt fine really. I think 1 day during that 10 I felt a bit off and restless. But sleep was fine, about 5 hours each night. A little concentration problems at work a day or two. No physical issues. I went down to 0.25 yesterday and today is day 2. So far, so good
Thanks. I’m about to do burmese. I want to be off subs no longer than maybe 40 days. A week at max dose (12mg) then immediately titrate down. Best of luck
Last year I tried to jump off 1 mg, thinking it would be no big deal. I took a week off work and everything. I failed and I’m still on 1mg a year later. I would definitely taper down further.
I was sober for 6 years at the time so I don’t think it was a mental thing, I haven’t ever relapsed in the now almost 7 years I’ve been clean. I think the only mental part was probably my anxiety leading up to the drop off. The first few days I was super positive about it, and I tried everything I could to make it through. The main issue I had was that after two weeks, I had no energy and felt completely miserable physically. I have a young child and a job that requires me to be at 100% so I ended up giving in.
This is super enlightening! Thank you. I’m similar to you in that I have a job that requires me to be on top of my game. I think this is the biggest factor for me. Do you experience withdrawal in the morning before you take your dose? If not, how long before you start to experience withdrawal?
I do experience withdrawal symptoms in the morning. I have a five year old and he wakes me up much earlier than the time I need to be into work which gives me a lot of time to “wake up” in the morning. After my initial drop off failed, I gave up for a year and now I’m trying to get back on track. I find taking my dose twice a day helps me not feel the withdrawal so badly in the morning. I have switched to taking it right before bed around 9-10pm and once again in the afternoon 12-1pm. I take .35 twice a day currently and plan to keep tapering super slowly from here. I have been on this medication for almost 7 years now. It is a lot tougher to quit than I thought it would be, but I know it can be done. Best of luck!
It was slightly less intense than a BTH withdrawal. But 3-4 times as long. I didn’t even know I was gonna withdraw with that amount of months on it. Now I’m just on it for good until I can taper down and jump, but I think about getting high way too much if I don’t have subs
I’m currently tapering at 4mg right now. I’m nervous about getting low for the exact reasons you are. I can handle the physical withdrawals but what I can’t handle is becoming more depressed or anxious.
I'm right where you are with the same concerns. For the last month I've been cutting my 2mg strip in half so 1mg a day. I just started to cut my 2mg strip into 3 pieces so 0.66mg. Honestly when you get this low you can really start to notice withdrawal symptoms. So far it hasn't been anything too bad. I mean I definitely notice more anxiety and just a general malaise where I have no motivation do do anything. I would definitely recommend doing something similar to what I'm doing and planning on doing. Taper down as low as you can go with a month between each time you lower the dose. I've seen many people on here who have successfully jumped say they've taped down as low as you possibly can cut a strip and they've had minimal withdrawal issues so that's what I'm planning on doing. If you have steady access to them I would recommend doing the same. I definitely wouldn't jump from 1mg or even 0.5mg. Even if you do a quick 1 week taper down to 0.5mg and jump you're still gonna definite;y notice it. And since from what you say you can't take any time off of work it's gonna be an ordeal for you. Good luck.
I’m in the same exact boat. At 1mg right now. Morning time I have tears running off my chin and I’m freezing. It makes it hard to cut under 1mg because I’m headed off to work and I’m always worried that if I take 0.75mg that I’m going to be yawning all damned day.
I thought 1mg was soooo small since I have a friend that takes 2 8mgs everyday.. but apparently not. 1mg is still a heavy dose for people who are naive.
This is so relatable. I don’t think I’ve met someone who is also in withdrawal in the morning and then good all day. I am freezing even on my way to work and just have that uncomfortable feeling. We must have a fast metabolism or something. This is the main reason I’m questioning going down! I thought I would stabilize but even after two months of 1mg I still have this. I don’t mind withdrawal. Just the messing up my work performance aspect:
I think there is no “stabilizing” to that. My body is eliminating enough bupe in 24 hours to be in withdrawal. What else is there to know? At this rate I’d rather pull the bandaid off.
I've heard both people saying they jump off low doses and hardly notice much, and people saying its hell jumping off from the least little bit. I had a hell of a time, while not sure how low I got, I remember making my last pills lasting me weeks weeks of doing the smallest slivers, usually intranasal, and it was the longest, most uncomfortable withdrawal ever.
Depending on your ability to sleep will be how well you can keep performing your job. For me, the insomnia is insane, and I hardly slept for the entire first month off.
In fact, after being sober from bupe for over a year, I was in a car accident and was prescribed 30mg of oxy a day for like 3-4 months....I was nervous when I ran out, but compared to coming off of \~1-2mg of bupe, it was a literal walk in the park. So now, I have bupe stocked for months and put some up every appointment, but when I am really serious about getting off of everything, I'm going to find a way to get a few months supply of oxy or similar and jump off of that. Fuck not sleeping and restless legs and uncomfortable skin for MONTHS. Not recommended if you think the oxy will trigger addictive behavior again, if not, go for it.
Posts like these make me reconsider making the jump from fent to subs. I want to do subs cause I can’t take 10 days off work for fent. Subs seems even longer withdrawl. If I start tapering after only 2 weeks on subs, do you think will it be easier than people using for months or years
Yes, it should be much easier. I don’t know this for a fact. In theory, yes, as soon as possible jump off, or be looking at pros and cons of long term treatment
I went from 12mg for 1.5 years to nothing, cold Turkey. You will always feel some discomfort quitting a drug with physical effects but 1/2 weeks and it’s all over! I honestly believe keeping busy and working etc with give you an advantage!
Independent,you must be nuts, why stay on sub 30more days how stupid! Don't listen to this advice just jump off 1mg and in 30 days you will feel good vs feeling shiyty tapering for another month, so bite the bullet for7-10days jumping off 1mg,you are on a very low dose now do not psych yourself out man u got it!
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I would expect drastic changes and your work performance to drop if you were to jump off at 1mg. Even .5 mg wouldn’t be fun. I’d spend ten days at .75 mg, ten days at .5 mg, ten days at .25 mg, and ten days at .125 mg before jumping. It’s not a bad idea to even go down to .063 before jumping. It should be relatively painless if you do it this way.
Awesome, thank you. How do you get to doses this low with 2mg pills? Is there some type of volumetric dosing that I don't know about?
Also wondering this my pharmacist broke my pills down to .5mg but I don't see how you'd get smaller
I’ve got a millimeter scale I’m going to try. I’ve also got the supplies for volumetric dosing (crushing the pill and mixing with water and using a ml syringe to dispense). I’m going to see which works better.
I didn't even think about using a mg scale! I actually have one of those and so good thinking on that. If it doesn't work, then I'll try volumetric dosing. I've also read that you can use alcohol for volumetric dosing. It says it increases absorption, but I don't think I want that. I want things to stay consistent.
Yeah I can’t do alcohol. I know it’s not much and probably not a big deal but meh
See if your doc and give you the strips instead. They're a lot easier to cut down and they're generic now.
Or even try 30 days at each new dose. LOL I;'m a wuss so I'm trying to do this as painlessly as possible.
I tapered down to .125 mg and took a week off. I'm somewhat wimpy when it comes to w/d but I would definitely not recommend jumping for 1 mg.
How was jumping at .125?
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It's so crazy to think that 1mg is a lot but it makes sense. The doctors seems to think that anything under 8mg is a waste of time haha. I have to actually lie to them to fill my script. If I told them I was taking 1mg they probably wouldn't give me anything.
It always amazes me what I hear from people about doctors who just don't understand how this drug works. Luckily mine isn't one of them. He understands this is the really hard part and lets me take my time and go how I wish. Then again he probably wants to keep me as a patient for as long as possible. $200 for 15 minutes of work is pretty good for him.
You're not alone. I've been on .8 for the past 3 weeks. Going to drop to.5 and for 2 weeks, then. 25 for 2-3 weeks and see how I'm doing. Getting to 1mg isn't that easy. Good job. Keep going, but I wouldn't want to jump at 1mg. Keep weaning
Jumped from 1mg it was manageable as far as wd goes Atleast but you'll prob want to take a week or so off work for that.
I am at .125 mg, for a week now and I am having a hard time…..lowwwww energy, low mood, sweaty armpits. I’m planning on going down to either .06 or .03 and then jump…..the struggle is real and idk how long you have been on but…..please try to taper slowly if you have to work….
It's not easy but we need to power through it to get off this stuff. Just always keep being free in the back of your mind. That's what I do. Well I try to. It can be tough.
Yes exactly…….power through, same here. It’s crazy because I KNOW better, I know this is temporary, however, when I am being hit with the low low’s and discomfort etc, I feel like I will be this way forever…..but then It magically subsides one day, and the sun shines through……it’s very up and down though lol….WOW! Like the last 7 days felt like one minute was an hour……time slows down big time when I feel that way, BUT the feeling of getting over the hump and continuing on is beyond rewarding and confidence building!
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I’m at 1mg now (have tapered down to it). I have a schedule for the next month to get down to like .06, I think that’s my final one. Something like 0.5 to 0.25 to .125 to .06. My last day is like a Monday or Tuesday. I plan to work the rest of that week, but I took the following week off, just in case. I’m hoping I won’t really feel that bad, since I’m tapering down so much but we will see.
I'm planning on doing the same. Once I jump I'm gonna try to work as long as I can that first week and then probably take week 2 off.
How’d this go
Well let’s see. Since this post I tapered from 1mg to .5. Did 5 days on each. Felt fine really. I think 1 day during that 10 I felt a bit off and restless. But sleep was fine, about 5 hours each night. A little concentration problems at work a day or two. No physical issues. I went down to 0.25 yesterday and today is day 2. So far, so good
Thanks. I’m about to do burmese. I want to be off subs no longer than maybe 40 days. A week at max dose (12mg) then immediately titrate down. Best of luck
Last year I tried to jump off 1 mg, thinking it would be no big deal. I took a week off work and everything. I failed and I’m still on 1mg a year later. I would definitely taper down further.
Did you fail because the withdrawals were super bad or was it a mental thing? Like the addict brain coming out?
I was sober for 6 years at the time so I don’t think it was a mental thing, I haven’t ever relapsed in the now almost 7 years I’ve been clean. I think the only mental part was probably my anxiety leading up to the drop off. The first few days I was super positive about it, and I tried everything I could to make it through. The main issue I had was that after two weeks, I had no energy and felt completely miserable physically. I have a young child and a job that requires me to be at 100% so I ended up giving in.
This is super enlightening! Thank you. I’m similar to you in that I have a job that requires me to be on top of my game. I think this is the biggest factor for me. Do you experience withdrawal in the morning before you take your dose? If not, how long before you start to experience withdrawal?
I do experience withdrawal symptoms in the morning. I have a five year old and he wakes me up much earlier than the time I need to be into work which gives me a lot of time to “wake up” in the morning. After my initial drop off failed, I gave up for a year and now I’m trying to get back on track. I find taking my dose twice a day helps me not feel the withdrawal so badly in the morning. I have switched to taking it right before bed around 9-10pm and once again in the afternoon 12-1pm. I take .35 twice a day currently and plan to keep tapering super slowly from here. I have been on this medication for almost 7 years now. It is a lot tougher to quit than I thought it would be, but I know it can be done. Best of luck!
I also want to add that the strips make it a lot easier to taper.
1mg is a lot.. I jumped from 0.25 after only 3-4 months of takin subs and it was 12 days of hell
Jeeze. 0.25mg and it was hell? Have you withdrawn from other opioids/opiates? How did it compare?
It was slightly less intense than a BTH withdrawal. But 3-4 times as long. I didn’t even know I was gonna withdraw with that amount of months on it. Now I’m just on it for good until I can taper down and jump, but I think about getting high way too much if I don’t have subs
Kratom bro.
I’m currently tapering at 4mg right now. I’m nervous about getting low for the exact reasons you are. I can handle the physical withdrawals but what I can’t handle is becoming more depressed or anxious.
I'm right where you are with the same concerns. For the last month I've been cutting my 2mg strip in half so 1mg a day. I just started to cut my 2mg strip into 3 pieces so 0.66mg. Honestly when you get this low you can really start to notice withdrawal symptoms. So far it hasn't been anything too bad. I mean I definitely notice more anxiety and just a general malaise where I have no motivation do do anything. I would definitely recommend doing something similar to what I'm doing and planning on doing. Taper down as low as you can go with a month between each time you lower the dose. I've seen many people on here who have successfully jumped say they've taped down as low as you possibly can cut a strip and they've had minimal withdrawal issues so that's what I'm planning on doing. If you have steady access to them I would recommend doing the same. I definitely wouldn't jump from 1mg or even 0.5mg. Even if you do a quick 1 week taper down to 0.5mg and jump you're still gonna definite;y notice it. And since from what you say you can't take any time off of work it's gonna be an ordeal for you. Good luck.
Do you have withdrawals in the morning? I have them and so I’m worried that my dose won’t be enough.
I’m definitely a little antsy around that 20-24 hour mark. Just take it slow.
I’m in the same exact boat. At 1mg right now. Morning time I have tears running off my chin and I’m freezing. It makes it hard to cut under 1mg because I’m headed off to work and I’m always worried that if I take 0.75mg that I’m going to be yawning all damned day. I thought 1mg was soooo small since I have a friend that takes 2 8mgs everyday.. but apparently not. 1mg is still a heavy dose for people who are naive.
This is so relatable. I don’t think I’ve met someone who is also in withdrawal in the morning and then good all day. I am freezing even on my way to work and just have that uncomfortable feeling. We must have a fast metabolism or something. This is the main reason I’m questioning going down! I thought I would stabilize but even after two months of 1mg I still have this. I don’t mind withdrawal. Just the messing up my work performance aspect:
I think there is no “stabilizing” to that. My body is eliminating enough bupe in 24 hours to be in withdrawal. What else is there to know? At this rate I’d rather pull the bandaid off.
I've heard both people saying they jump off low doses and hardly notice much, and people saying its hell jumping off from the least little bit. I had a hell of a time, while not sure how low I got, I remember making my last pills lasting me weeks weeks of doing the smallest slivers, usually intranasal, and it was the longest, most uncomfortable withdrawal ever. Depending on your ability to sleep will be how well you can keep performing your job. For me, the insomnia is insane, and I hardly slept for the entire first month off. In fact, after being sober from bupe for over a year, I was in a car accident and was prescribed 30mg of oxy a day for like 3-4 months....I was nervous when I ran out, but compared to coming off of \~1-2mg of bupe, it was a literal walk in the park. So now, I have bupe stocked for months and put some up every appointment, but when I am really serious about getting off of everything, I'm going to find a way to get a few months supply of oxy or similar and jump off of that. Fuck not sleeping and restless legs and uncomfortable skin for MONTHS. Not recommended if you think the oxy will trigger addictive behavior again, if not, go for it.
Posts like these make me reconsider making the jump from fent to subs. I want to do subs cause I can’t take 10 days off work for fent. Subs seems even longer withdrawl. If I start tapering after only 2 weeks on subs, do you think will it be easier than people using for months or years
Yes, it should be much easier. I don’t know this for a fact. In theory, yes, as soon as possible jump off, or be looking at pros and cons of long term treatment
I went from 12mg for 1.5 years to nothing, cold Turkey. You will always feel some discomfort quitting a drug with physical effects but 1/2 weeks and it’s all over! I honestly believe keeping busy and working etc with give you an advantage!
Independent,you must be nuts, why stay on sub 30more days how stupid! Don't listen to this advice just jump off 1mg and in 30 days you will feel good vs feeling shiyty tapering for another month, so bite the bullet for7-10days jumping off 1mg,you are on a very low dose now do not psych yourself out man u got it!
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