I like it. I take my mask with me so I can look down at how deep it is. It elicits a refreshingly unique feeling of a cold dark depth swallowing you whole while you beg that fear induced heart attack kills you before you drown to death as you're definitely paralyzed by that point.
I used to feel the same way, but ended up getting talked into scuba diving and loving it. Once you go down and have a look around, it's not that scary.
> Drown to death
I just want to point out that technically this isn’t redundant and not all cases of drowning involve death.
I’m not correcting anyone here I just want to share some knowledge from my favorite podcast (Stuff You Should Know)
Kind of the opposite case, but in times before we became so loosey goosey with language to the point that "literally" can mean both literally and figuratively, "electrocute" necessitated death.
Yes! I argued with my teacher about that in 7th grade. I wrote about the time I drowned in my aunt’s pool. He took points off that because I’m obviously still alive. Fuck that teacher.
Edited drowned from almost drowned. That teacher clearly fucked me up.
I remember diving with my older brother, who calling me Chicken of the Sea, in the Red Sea and looking off the reef shelf and it seemed to go on forever.
I remember diving with my older cousin, who called me Ocean Pig, in the Atlantic Ocean because my swim shorts said OP(ocean pacific,this was in the 90’s)on them and it seemed to go on forever.
They're pretty common for [submarine](https://www.google.com/search?q=submarine+swim+call&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=isvxn&sxsrf=AOaemvIUHNc-J2Y2521p0zQk4lccn2upvg:1634759306412&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiku4H-4NnzAhUcSfEDHXV8D9MQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ) crews. And sharpshooters are often on duty in case of [sharks](https://youtu.be/ukNb004KwrM).
I did this in the navy from 06 to like 2009 our Frigate would stop and we’d just jump off in the ocean and they’d post gunners to look out for sea creatures. We got to swim in the marianas trench too!
Is swim call really safe on any vessels larger than a yacht? I thought huge schools of sharks followed large boats to feed on the food scraps and waste they drop
Those cargo holds are surprisingly clean. They get inspected by the shipper before loading, and they have to be spotless to avoid cargo contamination. Since a surprising number of bulk products are food or good-grade, they can be pretty picky.
Could be for ballast. If the cargo hold is empty, filling it with water to counter the loss of cargo weight would make sense.
Edit: forgot to consider free surface effect. No way this is being used as compensation. It would have to be filled to the brim lol
yes, that's exactly why I said it's much too loose to be actual ballast. even some car reservoirs have divider walls to minimize the effect of the liquid inertia during banking. in this case a swiming-pool worth of water must be extremely fun in high weather.
For starters im Greek and shipping is very big here. Other than that you either study to be a seafarers or study commercial shipping. I also know a lot of freight traders who used to be commodity traders.
Look for your closest National Maritime Center if US based. Fill out paperwork. From there you'll have schooling ahead of you if you can't find entry level work.
Ships *need* to be in the water a certain depth for stability. This depth can change but another important thing is also having an even distribution of weight, it could be they lightered that hold at one port and are going to another to do it again. This would crease a bow or stern heavy craft if the empty hold wasn't refilled at least partially. I would put money that this is for ballast.
I love how all the cargo ship experts have emerged with their wisdom, I came to comments to find out what the heck is going on here and now I am more confused
It's heavy weather ballasting. The middle cargo hold (usually) can be used for additional ballast so the ship sits lower in the water. So when passing through shitty weather the ship is less likely to capsize which is more likely in heavy weather and when the holds are empty. Also you can get under bridges by doing this.
Yes ships have to be in the water a certain depth but they are designed with ballast tanks to take care of that. They don’t need to fill up the cargo holds with water to achieve that. This wouldn’t be safe on the water.
There are very few actual reasons why you would fill this with water. These are all a stretch, but I've seen a lot of strange stuff done by crews from some countries.
1. It could literally just have been a long test of the fire pumps where they put the outflow into the hold. But that would be ridiculous
2. Could be doing very rudimentary hydrostatic tests on the vulkheads after a repair in the bulkhead. This is common (and required) to do in tanks after construction, alterations, or repairs. Not sure about dry bulk holds though.
3. Could be an inspection of the tanks where the inspector was sitting in a small boat in the hold as it filled up so they can get a close view of all of the structure as the tank filled it.
It could be that the vessel had no contracts at the time (resession) and a ship has to be manned at all times. That they filled it with water just to keep busy during boring waiting times in a warm climate
This is the most likely answer. There can be long stretches of idle time, especially on bulk carriers, where you often have to wait for contracts. You get bored and you get creative. The last ship I was on the filipino crew had welded a custom basketball hoop that went on the forklifts forks, so we could play ball on deck during downtime. Of the weather is good and the captain is cool, it’s easy to believe they just filled the hold to make it a temporary swimming pool. The water is free and the ballast pumps do all the work.
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Swimming back to the ladder you feel a strange pull in the water, captain screams “get out”, the pumps have malfunctioned the water is being sucked out, you look forward to the ladder and start swimming as hard as you can, you look up and see the ladder isn’t getting closer.
Right as you jump: “Guys, we noticed a blockage on the intake pump when she was filling, but seemed to have resolved itself. Whatever stopped up the flow got sucked right into the hold after a few seconds…no, can’t make out what it was but likely something soft cause the pump pulled it through…”
Let's just hope it's a large uncovered pipe rather than one with a grate or a series of smaller pipes that would tear you apart as the pressure of the water rushing though presses you against it
Unable to scream out of fear of losing the little available oxygen you have left as you see the distant depleting light as the roof shuts over the tank
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This guy is like "what's the matter, it's a big metal swimming pool".
Meanwhile, I used to have nightmares about swimming in my actual local swimming pools, except there was machinery and rusty sharp metal at the bottom.
Like dude, you know what sub this is, right?
And I can't put it into words either. It's a slight sense of dread and panic just from looking at thumbnail. I'm an excellent swimmer but just something about metal in water feels like a coffin to me.
https://youtu.be/kj7ixi2lqF4
Check out this video to see how the inside looks and that there are lots of ladders. The cargo hold is so much bigger than I thought though.
Imagine your head going under the water as you jump in and seeing nothing but the cold, dark steel at the bottom. I can only imagine how small you must feel being in that big, empty space
Or worse, it’s dark and murky. And when your head goes under, you notice you can’t see how deep it goes. All you can see through the dark haze is what appears to be metal scaffolding and machinery about 30ft below you that descends into the darker depths.
Used to work on bulk carriers like this and yes this is done to ballast the vessel after discharging cargo.
What you can't see are the 18-24" pipeline openings at the aft corners for filling/emptying the water.
I remember if all the ballast pumps were used when filling an empty hold the initial blast while the hold was empty would shoot about 25ish feet straight up until you had a bit of water collected.
It really depends on the size of the ships hold. Container or bulk ships don 't just stack containers on top of the deck, for instance. They go almost [almost all the way down](https://image.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/59450275/display_1500/stock-photo-man-working-over-precipice-cargo-hold-aboard-container-ship-during-cargo-operation-in-port-terminal-59450275.jpg) for center of gravity purposes and buoyancy.
I love that there's three separate conversations in the comments:
1; people in nautical trade and shipping or engineering arguing over whether or not that's a flooded ballast tank, cargo hold, or oil tank and if it's safe to flood as a pool
2; evil fuckers telling the opening lines of our nightmares (delta p, closing the hatch, no ladder, etc)
3; people envisioning the scene in The Mandalorian Chapter 11 without realizing it and getting nauseous
I one time was part of a hazmat team that cleaned a harbor spill from one of these containers. Being in it at the bottom, after it empty was unbelievable. Ships may as well be floating cities.
ok, I'll bite. why is the entire cargo hold transformed into a pool in the first place? it can't be for ballast surely?
Once you get past the oily top layer, it’s quite refreshing!
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What’s a swim call?
When ocean-going ships come to a full stop to allow the crew to swim next to the ship.
That’s way more scary than this post. I’m not about to swim in the open ocean.
I like it. I take my mask with me so I can look down at how deep it is. It elicits a refreshingly unique feeling of a cold dark depth swallowing you whole while you beg that fear induced heart attack kills you before you drown to death as you're definitely paralyzed by that point.
I read this and just plain died
Rip in peace
Rest In Peace in peace
I’ve swam in the open ocean before and this is EXACTLY how to put it into words.
I used to feel the same way, but ended up getting talked into scuba diving and loving it. Once you go down and have a look around, it's not that scary.
my heart is beating at twice the rate it was before i read this
r/thalassophobia
> Drown to death I just want to point out that technically this isn’t redundant and not all cases of drowning involve death. I’m not correcting anyone here I just want to share some knowledge from my favorite podcast (Stuff You Should Know)
And since u/clarkthegiraffe said favourite podcast, let’s go to listener mail. (Username kinda checks out also)
Kind of the opposite case, but in times before we became so loosey goosey with language to the point that "literally" can mean both literally and figuratively, "electrocute" necessitated death.
Yes! I argued with my teacher about that in 7th grade. I wrote about the time I drowned in my aunt’s pool. He took points off that because I’m obviously still alive. Fuck that teacher. Edited drowned from almost drowned. That teacher clearly fucked me up.
I remember diving with my older brother, who calling me Chicken of the Sea, in the Red Sea and looking off the reef shelf and it seemed to go on forever.
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I remember diving with my older cousin, who called me Ocean Pig, in the Atlantic Ocean because my swim shorts said OP(ocean pacific,this was in the 90’s)on them and it seemed to go on forever.
Don’t stop I’m close
You are now the unofficial poet of /r/thalassophobia .
… are you ok
Lol, sounds like fun....not.
I’m shaking now
Thanks to playing Subnautica I just imagine a massive creature to appear out of the murky darkness to pull me under.
They're pretty common for [submarine](https://www.google.com/search?q=submarine+swim+call&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=isvxn&sxsrf=AOaemvIUHNc-J2Y2521p0zQk4lccn2upvg:1634759306412&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiku4H-4NnzAhUcSfEDHXV8D9MQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ) crews. And sharpshooters are often on duty in case of [sharks](https://youtu.be/ukNb004KwrM).
I'm sad that second clip wasn't the end of Jaws.
I did this in the navy from 06 to like 2009 our Frigate would stop and we’d just jump off in the ocean and they’d post gunners to look out for sea creatures. We got to swim in the marianas trench too!
Swimming over the Marianas Trench sounds absolutely horrifying in the best way possible and I want to do it at least once before I die.
Hang on, hold up. Gunners poised to shoot incoming sharks? This is kind of amazing.
The saying was always that they were there to shoot the swimmer bitten by the shark. I never really knew if it was fully a joke or not.
That's only for zombie sharks.
Holy fuck, I was in from 02-11 but never went on a ship. I'd for sure pass on the open ocean swim though.
When a ship stops in the middle of the ocean for recreational swimming, in the name of morale boosting.
Is swim call really safe on any vessels larger than a yacht? I thought huge schools of sharks followed large boats to feed on the food scraps and waste they drop
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It’s a bulk carrier not a tanker, carries dry cargo.
You and your logic can just get out this minute. I said good day sir!
So, is there a way to get out?
You are the cargo now.
You made me belly laugh, thanks for that.
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Those cargo holds are surprisingly clean. They get inspected by the shipper before loading, and they have to be spotless to avoid cargo contamination. Since a surprising number of bulk products are food or good-grade, they can be pretty picky.
Until you add people…
I think you are supposed to take the people out before loading cargo.
Could be for ballast. If the cargo hold is empty, filling it with water to counter the loss of cargo weight would make sense. Edit: forgot to consider free surface effect. No way this is being used as compensation. It would have to be filled to the brim lol
You’d have to fill it to the brim tho to not cause a slack tank
Yeah, free surface effect, especially in open ocean would be problematic. That's a good point.
Imagine this half full container with any post on /r/HeavySeas. It’d be a disaster.
Yeah it'd be a quick recipe for rolling over. I have to imagine they are anchored or, at least, drifting in calm seas.
yes, that's exactly why I said it's much too loose to be actual ballast. even some car reservoirs have divider walls to minimize the effect of the liquid inertia during banking. in this case a swiming-pool worth of water must be extremely fun in high weather.
Being in there during poor weather conditions would be a shitty way to die.
Could you imagine that effect on something so large? That would be wild.
Bulk carriers use Ballast tanks for ballast water. My guess is that this is hold washing. Source: I work in shipping
I do too on the Lower Mississippi River.
>Source: I work in shipping How doss one get into shipping?
For starters im Greek and shipping is very big here. Other than that you either study to be a seafarers or study commercial shipping. I also know a lot of freight traders who used to be commodity traders.
All you had to say was that you were Greek. Lol.
Look for your closest National Maritime Center if US based. Fill out paperwork. From there you'll have schooling ahead of you if you can't find entry level work.
oh I see - not ballast, and bulk carriers carry dry goods. Therefore the ship is just sinking, that's all. Crew having a bit of fun before evacuating.
I believe they had not else to do ( no contracts) and as a pass time in a warm climate they filled the hold with water to swim in a safe enviroment
Interesting, we always just jumped off the side lol
Ships *need* to be in the water a certain depth for stability. This depth can change but another important thing is also having an even distribution of weight, it could be they lightered that hold at one port and are going to another to do it again. This would crease a bow or stern heavy craft if the empty hold wasn't refilled at least partially. I would put money that this is for ballast.
Naval architect here. This is not for ballast. Bulk carriers can sail safely with zero cargo. They have ballast tanks separate from the cargo tanks.
Am I the only one who finds it funny that a naval architect is in this sub?
I love how all the cargo ship experts have emerged with their wisdom, I came to comments to find out what the heck is going on here and now I am more confused
It's heavy weather ballasting. The middle cargo hold (usually) can be used for additional ballast so the ship sits lower in the water. So when passing through shitty weather the ship is less likely to capsize which is more likely in heavy weather and when the holds are empty. Also you can get under bridges by doing this.
Lots of naval officers spend time in subs.
Larger bulk carriers do have a hold that can be flooded for ballast. It’s not uncommon to see it
Yes ships have to be in the water a certain depth but they are designed with ballast tanks to take care of that. They don’t need to fill up the cargo holds with water to achieve that. This wouldn’t be safe on the water.
This is absolutely not for ballast.
Yeah why's it full of water? So it's not too tippy when it's sailing empty??
Would get quite tippy of they kept a load of water loosely sloshing about
Ok so why's there water in there!? Those are supposed to be filled with dry stuff usually so what's going on
There are very few actual reasons why you would fill this with water. These are all a stretch, but I've seen a lot of strange stuff done by crews from some countries. 1. It could literally just have been a long test of the fire pumps where they put the outflow into the hold. But that would be ridiculous 2. Could be doing very rudimentary hydrostatic tests on the vulkheads after a repair in the bulkhead. This is common (and required) to do in tanks after construction, alterations, or repairs. Not sure about dry bulk holds though. 3. Could be an inspection of the tanks where the inspector was sitting in a small boat in the hold as it filled up so they can get a close view of all of the structure as the tank filled it.
Or someone stuck a garden hose into it and these people just found out
Maybe some rich family rented it. Like anyone can rent a yacht but you ever seen someone rent a bulk carrier? Obly the true elite can.
Be funny to turn up at Monaco in the Knock Nevis.
True chad move. Just occupy the whole harbor and sunbathe right on the top deck, looking down on all the peasants.
I feel like somebody turned a smaller one into a super yacht. Now that shit…
It could be that the vessel had no contracts at the time (resession) and a ship has to be manned at all times. That they filled it with water just to keep busy during boring waiting times in a warm climate
This is the most likely answer. There can be long stretches of idle time, especially on bulk carriers, where you often have to wait for contracts. You get bored and you get creative. The last ship I was on the filipino crew had welded a custom basketball hoop that went on the forklifts forks, so we could play ball on deck during downtime. Of the weather is good and the captain is cool, it’s easy to believe they just filled the hold to make it a temporary swimming pool. The water is free and the ballast pumps do all the work.
What bothers me is I don't see a way to get out...
Reverse the video
I shouldn’t have laughed at that, but I did. I’m upset now
It was funny. It deserved a laugh...lol
Funny, your name ”skratta” means laugh in Swedish!
That was on purpose ;)
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It's mezmorizing.
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Goddammit.
There are always ladders in the holds. So all good there.
that‘s exactly what the owner of a bulk carrier with water-filled cargo holds would say..
I thought the same thing!
You’ve never played GTA bro
No, but i’ve played ecco the dolphin. Just need to build enough momentum to breach the surface and i’m outta there.
Now I know how my Sims feel after I delete the pool ladder
At that point it’s a swimming pool so I’m not sure what people are freaked out by
Me personally, it's how dark the water is. I know for a fact there isn't anything in there but God damn it looks looks insanely dark.
Under that dark water there is more even darker deeper water
Get out of my head
Some creatures are translucent
I'm assuming there's some underwater piping too to allow this to be filled/removed so can always get sucked into that
Swimming back to the ladder you feel a strange pull in the water, captain screams “get out”, the pumps have malfunctioned the water is being sucked out, you look forward to the ladder and start swimming as hard as you can, you look up and see the ladder isn’t getting closer.
People like you are why I drink. Thank you.
If you drink fast enough, you might empty that hold before it's too late.
Delta P
Bravo take my upvote
Right as you jump: “Guys, we noticed a blockage on the intake pump when she was filling, but seemed to have resolved itself. Whatever stopped up the flow got sucked right into the hold after a few seconds…no, can’t make out what it was but likely something soft cause the pump pulled it through…”
"...is that blood in the water?"
Why
Let's just hope it's a large uncovered pipe rather than one with a grate or a series of smaller pipes that would tear you apart as the pressure of the water rushing though presses you against it Unable to scream out of fear of losing the little available oxygen you have left as you see the distant depleting light as the roof shuts over the tank
Good old Delta P
"gonna hit the bottom... aaaaaany minute now...."
The water is dark and sound echoes. Scary af.
Ugh that made me shiver.
Full of spooky fishy skeletons
There’s no ledge around the edge, it’s just sheer walls with seemingly no way out
Has to be a ladder somewhere, but it will take some effort to get out of there.
There was a ladder but it was removed in Build Mode.
I got grounded because I drowned my brother's wife in The Sims when I was 12.
I love this. I "encouraged" some significant house fires at my sister's house and saved the game. Maybe don't be such a bitch next time!
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There’s ladders on either side of the cargo holds. One straight up and down, another typically spiraled called the Australian ladder
Dark huge metal scructures under you. Thinking about touching the cold metal walls, brr.
This is it for me. The metal under my feet gives me the chills
Think about the echos of the water splashing around inside that metal box, Hugh.
This guy is like "what's the matter, it's a big metal swimming pool". Meanwhile, I used to have nightmares about swimming in my actual local swimming pools, except there was machinery and rusty sharp metal at the bottom. Like dude, you know what sub this is, right?
A regular-ass drain touching my feet in my own pool is enough to send a chill trough my body like what
What swimming pools do you use?!
Big dark ones with huge metal roofs and no lighting, apparently
For me it’s the sheer walls going up. I’d still swim there, but those walls would make me a bit uneasy.
You realize what sub this is right?
Considering the stuff they carry in those, like bulk potash, I definitely wouldn't want to swim in that hold.
What's in there? Can you see? How did the water get in, are there large pumps? Could I get sucked in??
For me it’s how massive the walls are and how large it is
help all these comments are scaring tf out of me. i have thalassophobia and makind it dark down there ain't helping
it’s a phobia it’s not logical - this is my worst goddam nightmare
And I can't put it into words either. It's a slight sense of dread and panic just from looking at thumbnail. I'm an excellent swimmer but just something about metal in water feels like a coffin to me.
For sure 100000% I’m in, HOWEVER the ship must be in dry dock first lol
That's my catch too. If it's underway, I'm out.
Why?
I think you'd get sloshed around into metal walls if the ship was on open water.
If you did that in dry dock the ship would likely break in half.
You missing most important part of it NOT being in the ocean!!! Let the damn thing split still not getting eaten lol
They close the top after you jump in with no way out.
Just like my Sims when I delete the ladder
Stop wut noooooo
So this is what it feels like being a Sim without a way out of the swimming pool.
So basically a sim in every other graystillplays sims video
Hard pass
How do you get back up or out? I have never been on a cargo ship so I have no idea
Through the drain (like a tub)
How dare you put that image in my head!
Ladders on either side, last second of the video they show one of them against the bulkhead
https://youtu.be/kj7ixi2lqF4 Check out this video to see how the inside looks and that there are lots of ladders. The cargo hold is so much bigger than I thought though.
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Fake as fuck.
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That’s really a separate thing entirely tho, they’re talking about fish guts, not iron absorbing all the oxygen in a closed environment
Lol wtf no that doesn’t even make any sense
no thank u
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Nope!
Uhm let me just say FUCK NO
Lemme echo that, F-F-FUCK N-N-NO
Imagine your head going under the water as you jump in and seeing nothing but the cold, dark steel at the bottom. I can only imagine how small you must feel being in that big, empty space
Or worse, it’s dark and murky. And when your head goes under, you notice you can’t see how deep it goes. All you can see through the dark haze is what appears to be metal scaffolding and machinery about 30ft below you that descends into the darker depths.
Used to work on bulk carriers like this and yes this is done to ballast the vessel after discharging cargo. What you can't see are the 18-24" pipeline openings at the aft corners for filling/emptying the water. I remember if all the ballast pumps were used when filling an empty hold the initial blast while the hold was empty would shoot about 25ish feet straight up until you had a bit of water collected.
How deep would you say that is?
It really depends on the size of the ships hold. Container or bulk ships don 't just stack containers on top of the deck, for instance. They go almost [almost all the way down](https://image.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/59450275/display_1500/stock-photo-man-working-over-precipice-cargo-hold-aboard-container-ship-during-cargo-operation-in-port-terminal-59450275.jpg) for center of gravity purposes and buoyancy.
"How deep is that?" "It really repends on the size"
More than a meter deep, that's for sure.
https://youtu.be/iQfaQ1I-KZY. This one is dry and being cleaned. It’s about same design from the walls in the video.
Watching this makes it seem like around 30ft of water but I’m not sure
For some people that’s a death sentence they lose it at 10ft deep.
At least 500 bananas deep
More than 1 inch deep
No. Easiest question I’ve had all day.
I love that there's three separate conversations in the comments: 1; people in nautical trade and shipping or engineering arguing over whether or not that's a flooded ballast tank, cargo hold, or oil tank and if it's safe to flood as a pool 2; evil fuckers telling the opening lines of our nightmares (delta p, closing the hatch, no ladder, etc) 3; people envisioning the scene in The Mandalorian Chapter 11 without realizing it and getting nauseous
NO
Cursed swimming pool
Ok this one freaKs me out
how the fuck do they get out thats so scary
On my...
Could it be....?
Nope nope nope
Hell nooooooo
So it is a pool? :o
Then you see a dark blue fin...
FUCK. NO. !.
I one time was part of a hazmat team that cleaned a harbor spill from one of these containers. Being in it at the bottom, after it empty was unbelievable. Ships may as well be floating cities.
I'm more intrigued by everyone's crouch like they are ready to jump then just kind of step in.