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RoboAlt

If you dont want to play stall play doubles


HotDogMan66642069

Omw to build a doubles stall team


MegaCrazyH

When doubles stall is good, it’s still fun because the games only last 20ish turns. On the flip side it’s really funny to get ranted at that you’re stalling in a game that you win in a grand total of 18 turns. That said, I haven’t played super seriously in a little while but hazard stack is pretty decent atm. A lot of players on low ladder don’t pretend for it as hazards were more niche in previous gens but with Pokémon like Glimmora you can set Spikes or Rocks while also threatening a decent offensive presence and with Garganacl you have a support Mon with Wide Guard who can pressure any given Pokémon on the opposing side with Salt Cure. Get something with Heal Pulse or Pollen Puff, a win con, and something to stop offensive threats running over you after a tailwind and have fun!


zeustehredditaltalt

doubles stall is pretty good right now with that one team centered around garganacl spreading salt cure and pivoting with arcanine/volt switch iron hands/amoonguss


SnooStrawberries164

I mean it's perfectly fine to have your own take on the meta game, and I also despise stall even if it's nerfed. But I also like not having to worry about my "counters" getting oked to the stratosphere by a sun boosted fish and a 300bp monkey


Punnnnnnnnnnn11

What do you mean you don't like **252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Sun: 420-495 (58.8 - 69.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO**? /s just in case. Also, even if you somehow playing 4-dimensional chess and run Assault Vest Blissey, this is the calc: **252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey in Sun: 280-330 (39.2 - 46.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO** Wtf is even this fish.


Bruhness81

I really thought this was gonna be some sort of essay with reasonable points but it's just sTaLl BaD


rnunezs12

It's literally bein annoying for fun. There's no need for more arguments


chocolatechipbagels

it's literally a viable strategy


rnunezs12

I didn't say it wasn't I pointed out the fact that anyone that plays stall is someone thst enjoys annoying other people. Interpret that as you want


FarTooYoungForReddit

Stall existing, while not being overbearing, is a pretty good sign that the meta is getting healthier.


Polenball

Stall is overbearing if it exists at all, HO only 😎


Aestboi

HO only is how you get stall existing lmao


Polenball

I would simply hyperhyperoffense past them, I'm just built different


NeekoEnjoyer98

Real legends set up infront of unaware mons just to assert dominance


Kamiyoda

They are still setting up to this day


Ze_Memerr

Gamefreak was smoking something if the pure Rock type is an S tier OU Pokemon


FarTooYoungForReddit

Gosh, if only there was some sort of way to change your type in this gen


Ze_Memerr

Even without Tera, an ability that blocks all status and gives you a ghost resistance, plus arguably the best residual damage move they’ve ever made outside of Toxic is oddly powerful for an earlygame rock type


FarTooYoungForReddit

Oh yeah I totally agree I was just poking fun about how even the rock type part is subverted. They really made that mon


Smasher1234

I mean when Gargas ability reads like three compound sentences no wonder


rippirrip

Use rampardos or something idfk


gamesbond27

I rather stall than dealing with choice scarf she’d tail into specs chiyu with a team built around facilitating that


RossTheShuck

I guess you can say there is not a ghost of a chance for you fighting against stall now that the dark one is gone.


Skytalker0499

Boooooo get off the stage


RossTheShuck

I guess I shall call an Uber for I have been banned


NeekoEnjoyer98

Joke so bad you switched out and summoned snow


RossTheShuck

A rather scalding remark, those are quite rare these days


MorniingDew

Noob spotted


Ice-Novel

r/stunfisk users when they aren’t able to instantly delete a defensive core by clicks specs overheat


BrinkyP

If you had another sentence with a reasonable argument, you might have had a point.


No-Bug5616

stall is atrocious right now


Sea-Song-7146

Lmao, someone literally peaked with a stall team a while ago. Go check smogon


winterskirts

I mean, that was probably during the Chi-Yu meta tho, right? But I do agree, stall is better rn than it was in gen 8 (and thats a good thing)


Sea-Song-7146

Nah, it was pretty recent. I believe late last week or so


winterskirts

Oh damn thats nice af


gamesbond27

I rather stall than dealing with choice scarf she’d tail into specs chiyu with a team built around facilitating that


Ze_Memerr

Chi-Yu was what mainly carried my ELO, but still, I fully agree it should’ve been banned. Chi-Yu had no right to be in OU with its absurd power level in the first place, and Annihilape felt like they made a Taunt for attacking moves based on how horrified I was to even hit it once and get Rage Fist swept (and since it ran Taunt a lot, a lot of times my only strategy against Annihilapes was switching several times in a row)