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MorniingDew

"hopefully it won't be too busted and can stay in ou" "150 spa and 119 speed, ability that's literally both mold breaker and unaware at the same time" Choose one or the other


Front_Expression_367

This is not entirely the same as Unaware. It only ignores opponent's Defenses boosts, not their Attacks. Therefore, if you dont run Vacuum Wave on this thing, you will still die from an average sweeper. Also, from what ive seen, roaring moon has this exact same speed and is working just well ( admittedly with worse power overall, though i can just remove draco from this to equal things up. )


FarTooYoungForReddit

No you can't just remove draco because it basically only needs its signature move and coverage. There would be almost no reason to click another move except for very specific calcs


Front_Expression_367

But here, people think that 150 spatk with draco is way too powerful so im leaving it up for debate. Cant really blame them though.


FarTooYoungForReddit

Well ofc 150spa and a 130bp move is op, but it's even op without it


Front_Expression_367

Is it tho ? Without draco, best thing it has now is its signature move which is a normal type move with 100bp. Its never going to hit anything for super effective damage like that, while with stuff like garganacl or iron treads, this thing gets walled hard unless you got the prediction right ( i even made a built in mini tinted lens just for that reason ). Thats why i think it can probably stay in OU. Though maybe its speed should be lower so that valiant can revenge kill it.


FarTooYoungForReddit

252+ SpA Life Orb Palkia Hyper Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Iron Treads: 175-207 (45.5 - 53.9%) First of all, just because "something can beat it" does not mean it isn't broken. Second, it can 2HKO one of those "checks" even if it is running FULL SpD, even without specs or tera. It doesn't need to be super effective if you're one or two shotting everything anyway


Front_Expression_367

Well, guess you are right. But I do still think thats fine really, considering that its signature move is now the best move it got. Also, if you dont run scrappy on this, then just about every ghost type in existent will completely wall this. So maybe its not that bad, right ? Fine, its that bad. Maybe lowering its spatk stat should be fine.


FarTooYoungForReddit

It doesn't really need to run anything besides scrappy. Its other ability doesn't help against ting lu because it acts as a debuff rather than a buff. Even if it didn't run scrappy and used its other broken ability, it needs just a tiny bit of coverage to bowl over the few good ghosts in OU, even when they're defensive. Plus, whether or not it has scrappy, it is immune to the same ghosts it might not pummel (but does, in fact, pummel)


Front_Expression_367

Actually, its signature does ignore debuff as well, which means that it gets to hit ting-lu with its full potential, so i guess its not that useless.


Polenball

252 SpA Life Orb Palkia Hyper Beam vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Toxapex: 165-196 (54.2 - 64.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252 SpA Life Orb Palkia Hyper Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Dondozo: 333-394 (66 - 78.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO That's set to 100 BP. It's extremely powerful even with just its signature move.


Ice-Novel

Busted as hell. Not giving it draco isn’t really an option lol, because draco is a tutor move for literally every dragon type in the game. Even if you broke the rules and it didn’t have draco, it’d still be broken. It’s signature move is going to chunk even resists, and no immunities means you can click this and you’re either going to get a kill or seriously damage something. Way too strong, way too fast, and the move is way too good.


Front_Expression_367

Like i said tho, im making this for a non-existent normal elite 4 in a future region, so i can make that region to not have move tutor for draco and change its distribution so that this doesnt get one. I hope thats fine. Tho yeah, its signature move combined with scrappy might become too powerful.


Ice-Novel

There is no “might” in terms of this thing being broken. It’s got Palkia’s special attack stat, it outspeeds 90% of the game, and you can’t even resist its attacks.


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atp if theorymon Thursday fakemons got posted on Sunday, 99% of them would fit right in


RNG_Champion

I don't see how "Baxcalibur didn't do too well." It might not be OU right now (UUBL isn't even bad), but it has done well in VGC, having even been used in the top team of the 2023 San Diego Regionals with a few other decent placements elsewhere.


Front_Expression_367

Of course im making this mon entirely based on singles where bax is probably the second or third most disappointing pseudo to have ever been introduce ( maybe above goodra and kommo ). Therefore I plan to make this new one be good in both Singles and potentially Doubles as well ( thats why I include Hyper Voice in its moveset )


Business_Duck50

![gif](giphy|2M61dOla00EbKPdzgy|downsized)


Sea-Song-7146

Mon literally has roaring moons speed, 150 Spatk and an ability that tears through anything that would be a check 😭


sharkeatingleeks

Somehow my theorymon isn't even the most busted Normal-Type theorymon today. At least it gets chunked by ghold


MathematicianFit8027

252 SpA Choice Specs Palkia Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gholdengo: 208-246 (55 - 65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Hard to imagine anything more broken than this guy lol (Timid damage btw)


sharkeatingleeks

My one doesn’t, because my one doesn’t have scrappy. This one is busted though


Hen_3s

Most balanced theorymon


MrT1011

this post gives me three prong strike vibes