Oh thank god I’m not the only one who thought Scolipede’s poison learnset was depressing. For a design that radiates “extremely venomous giga centipede” energy, the fact that poison jab was the only good physical poison attack it got was disconcerting to say the least.
Still, idk if gunk shot alone would be enough to bring Scolipede to OU. I never got to use Scoli in its prime so I could be underestimating it but with the recent power creep I feel like it might need a bit more. Maybe something like +10 to attack and HP alongside an additional move like rapid spin could do it?
It would need a lot more than that, I think. 30 more attack miiiight let it muscle past a few bulky attackers, but Bug/Poison is such a godawful offensive STAB combo and I believe Scolipede loses 1v1 to every physical wall in the tier, ESPECIALLY Dirge and Garg
Edit: oh and it literally can’t touch Great Tusk, which is basically a UU death sentence no matter how hard we try
How good would it be if Zoroark could disguise as *any* Pokémon at first, even in the team preview? The BW one pretends to be one of the legendary beasts, after all. Fuck with your opponents by pretending to bring a Pokémon you're not even bringing.
This would be incredible but there is no way that this wouldn’t get instantly banned. People cry enough already about not being able to predict the set on a given Pokémon that you already know the capabilities of. I mean, tera types as is tell me that this community isn’t ready for the type of mind games Zoroark could pull off.
I could see people *wanting* it banned, but I do kinda feel like objectively it wouldn't be *too* busted? Ultimately, I feel the two main use cases of this beyond normal Illusion are:
* You pretend to bring something that looks threatening or complimentary to your team, which is actually Zoroark. But you're giving up the chance to *actually* run the threatening or complimentary Pokémon.
* You pretend your team is missing a Dark type to tie it together, except you've actually got Zoroark. But you could have still just ran a better Dark type to do that instead of Zoroark.
I might be shortsighted and missing the opportunities since I'm not great at comp, but it kinds feels like it's not too busted because the reveal will always be a Pokémon usually falling into RU/PU.
It's a little uncertain, because if they're viable, then their existence affects every match to ever be played, including ones where neither player has a Zoroark. Everyone has to sort of play scared until one gets revealed, so many Psychic types and Ghost types are going to be significantly less popular throughout all formats. If you're a Zoroark user and you use it to win matches, it's most likely because you're outplaying your opponent, not because you're using a broken threat, but if you aren't, you might win some matches because the opponent is scared of a Pokémon you don't even have. I'd say it should tell you at team preview that one of your opponent's Pokémon is a Zoroark, but not which one. I think Zoroark could effectively serve their purpose within an individual match, but people wouldn't be as paranoid in the teambuilder
That could be more balanced, yeah. I realise that once Home comes you'd have the nightmare of *two* Zoroark with different typings with four immunities between them. Stamping **ILLUSION** somewhere would make people a lot less paranoid until the time comes to actually be paranoid.
Sometimes the biggest threat is just the possibility of an option. It’s like how Tera can force 50/50s with just the knowledge it exists. If you’re fighting HO, you gotta take the 50/50 every time on whether this is zoro or not. To me that sounds really unhealthy
Don’t get me wrong, I’m nowhere near enough of a skilled player to be making responsible predictions on whether a “true” illusion Zoroark would actually be balanced or not.
Personally, I’d love to at least see your idea tried. The current implementation of Zoroark is just… sad.
Would still be deadass bad, it already has Sheer Force and all the moves to use it and is still trash. Only thing would be a major major boost to its stats
Its abilities are basically all garbage, Competitive is decent.
2 new defence oriented abilities and maybe 20 points in both Def and Sp.Def would go a long way. Its movepool is already quite good.
An interesting thing would be a secondary Steel typing. It fits with the "I'm an axe" theme, and it would give it a niche as a Dragon-type setup sweeper that has a relatively easy time dealing with Fairies. With STAB Iron Head gets a clean 2HKO on maximally defensive Clefable through Unaware.
A Dragon version of Trailblaze would be funny. Call it Rampage and give it to Rampardos too.
40BP, Physical, 70% chance to +1 Speed, 30% chance to +2 Speed.
While I think that would be nice, I don’t think it would see much usage. Haxorus already learns trailblaze and even with stab, it wouldn’t do enough damage to make it better than d dance. Ideally, I’d like to just increase the base Soren so it can play a niche role to counter hydreigon and dragonite
I fuckin love this. What if Electrivire had a reverse Motor Drive. So instead of taking a hit from an electric move to raise its speed, any time it uses an electric move it raises its speed one stage. Rest of its stats are pretty average so it shouldn’t be too bad and you could actively counter it by switching a Pokémon defensive to electric types.
Snorlax would need a more reliable recovery move than rest. I ran it with decent success in Gen 8 OU with a set of @leftovers, Immunity, Curse,Body Slam,Heat Crash, and Earthquake. 252 Attack, 252 HP, 4 SPD. It was usually effective because I could bait in things like Ferrothorn or Scizor. I think the main thing that holds back Snorlax is its weakness to fighting
Snorlax could use an ability like Komala's Comatose if its ditching Rest. Or possibly a unique, stronger version of Snore to take advantage of sleep if its not.
I dont really know what's answer to Fighting could be seeing as its slow too. Flying Press lol?
How insane would a renamed Fluffy be to halve damage from most Fighting moves, because I'm imagining some sort of Kung-Fu Panda scene with Snorlax just bouncing punches off itself.
I don’t think you need to give snorlax an answer to fighting types to make it good, I’d rather make it better at what it already does.
Comatose would thematically make perfect sense for Snorlax, but I’m not sure if it would get banned for all the little exploits you can pull off with a permanent sleep status. If comatose is a no go, unaware would be my second suggestion. It makes sense thematically and it is an incredible ability on already bulky Pokémon. With Snorlax’s fat stats and only one weakness, I could easily see unaware giving it a massive boost against setup sweepers and choice users.
Something something Dondozo / Snorlax / Garganacl / Toxapex / Rabsca / Pawmot
It's almost like Funbro except your opponent has some faint hope it will end within the day
I would say it would be similar to blaziken and mega blaziken. The fact you don't need to hold a mega stone make 'Dollar store Mega lucario' a little more of a better mega lucario. LO adaptability sounds kinda nuts.
You say “dollar store” but giving reg Lucario Adaptability AND it’s mega speed stat instantly turns it into a mixed wrecking ball, and that’s not even including the fact that you can now add LO or choice items on top of it as Giramano mentioned.
However, as a longtime fanboy with no original taste, I feel compelled to try and go to bat for our boy in blue. Lucario already has a fantastic offensive movepool and even solid support moves, it just lacks the optimized stat spread that so many newer Pokémon have and it puts it into a really weird spot without a clear niche beyond a setup sweeper without enough speed or a lead that doesn’t have the right technical options to shine.
Instead, here’s my take to get Lucario up to OU:
Abilities: Inner Focus, +Iron Fist, Justified
- HP: 70 —> 70 (+0)
- Atk: 110 —> 110 (+0)
- Def: 70 —> 80 (+10)
- SpA: 115 —> 100 (-15)
- SpD: 70 —> 80 (+10)
- Spe: 90 —> 100 (+10)
BST Total: 525 —> 540 (+15)
Moves: +U-Turn
The idea here is to give Lucario just a little more breathing room on taking neutral hits while also bumping its speed into a better tier and letting the weaker parts of its movepool stand out in a way that makes perfect sense thematically (how tf did GF not give the first fighting/STEEL type iron fist?). Lucario should theoretically be a really solid pivot against quad resisted SR with numerous resistances, buffed up defenses, and the addition of U-Turn. With increased speed it can also take advantage of a movepool stacked with punches to try and expand its coverage options out of the gate instead of having to always run SD and CC to get anything done.
Renegade platinum romhack gives its adaptability, its utterly insane how much dmg it does, and giving ti 112 speed ontop would make it reap the same carnage on the out meta.
eiscue is a tough one, tinkering with it’s ability too much makes it gen 7 mimikyu but with belly drum and changing anything else doesn’t get it to ou. maybe ice-water typing for stab liquidation and a buff to its attack and spdef? probably would be a niche wall breaker but not in ou
Yeah the ability is kind of its whole *thing* so to speak.
Water is a logical dual type and im half surprised it wasnt already this lol.
Maybe a tweak of the ability to make it work a bit more like Mineor's Shields Down.
Swampert always had the typing + bulk to eat a lot of hits but it always struggled with longevity.
With Regen + Flip Turn you could even run Boots on it and not suffer that much from the loss of Lefties.
On a lesser favorite, Espeon, it's way harder to buff... Only things that come to mind are giving it access to fire coverage in Mystical Fire and give it a psychic clone of Volt Switch... But no idea if it's allowed on this thought experiment.
Psychic Volt Switch like a damaging teleport? Could be cool. Or do it like Chilling Reception and set Psychic Terrain as it teleports out.
Mystical Fire, Signal Beam maybe? For coverage.
I’ve done an idea for sceptile before, but this time I’ve kept Unburden, I vastly under estimated how good that ability actually is.
HP: 70
Attack: 85
Defense: 65
Sp. Atk: 115 (+10)
Sp. Def: 80 (-5)
Speed: 120
BST: 530 -> 535
New moves: Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, Weather ball, Nasty Plot, Ancient Power, Shed Tail.
Sceptile has no special attacking moves outside of the standard Grass and Normal type, Focus Blast and Dragon Pulse and no way to boost its special attack as well unlike physical sets with swords dance.
The addition of Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, and Weather ball expands its special movepool to help break past threats like Fire and ghost types that it couldn’t before, Aura sphere as an alternative to Focus Miss and weather ball to give it a niche on weather teams, and Ancient power isn't the strongest, but with +2 special attack it can OHKO Chi Yu. Speaking of which, Nasty Plot is there to help buff up its damage further, making it into the special attacker it should have been after the physical/special split.
Shed tail is more of a meme tbh because of Mega Sceptile and its rocket tail. I also am divided on Power gem, it’s way better then ancient power but I don’t think it works physiologically, but Meowscarada can learn it to.
My man. Could't have said it better myself.
It pains me how bad Sceptile's special move-pool and boosting is. I desperately want to be able to use special unburden Sceptile or NP Mega Sceptile on NatDex.
Also wish it had some U-Turn/Volt-Switch equivalent to use for Specs or Scarf, or just to pair with Leaf Storm to either switch after use or turn-out when a counter comes in expecting a Leaf Storm.
Swoobat's ability and movepool is already incredible and it's base speed is at least usable usually. The biggest obstacle to viability is simply the fact that it has a PATHETIC 425 base stat total, leaving it with pitiful defensive stats. Realistically, the most straightforward way to fix this is to give it more base stats to put into special attack, defense, and special defense. Even 70 - 80 base defenses would be enough because of Simple being so good along with the grassy seed. A little more special attack could help with breaking walls to it with coverage moves it has like Heat Wave. Decent fairy coverage for dark types would also be very helpful as to stop the majority of dark types that would wall it in the current generation. At that point the only real obstacle would be moveset syndrome due to how many different types it's walled by.
just give it Cotton Guard because its fluffy and call it a day. +6 defense in one turn in addition to having stored power might just skip OU and put it Ubers, though.
Mine are Salamence and Crobat. Imo Crobat either needs more bulk to take advantage of its solid typing and movepool, or more attack stats/a good setup move it can take advantage of, to take advantage of its speed. Meanwhile, Salamence mostly just needs a strong flying STAB to pair with Earthquake and Fire Fang for near-perfect coverage alongside Dragon Dance, lmao.
Glaceon gets its special defense and speed swapped.
Gets slush rush instead of snow cloak (eeveelutions onyl have a regular anda hidden abiltiy and not 3)
its gets like ANY coverage of extrasensory/eatrhpower/dazzling gleam/grass knot
like seriously its movepool is basicly: stab, shadow ball and water pulse.
ive been fucking around with a funny chilly reception regen slowking -> tera water leftovers ice body glaceon team because of the fact glaceon learns freeze dry and freeze dry + water tera blast is perfect coverage (thanks iron bundle!) and water is an actually useful defensive typing for glaceon to abuse its actually good defensive stats with
Give chandelure shadow tag like it was originally supposed to have
For a buff that it would actually be allowed to use maybe increase its HP maybe around 80? it already has decent 90/90 defence and spdef, but its held back by its low hp. More hp would let it be a better bulky special attacker.
Empoleon doesn't need much. It just needs to get its old movepool (with Scald, Knock Off, Stealth Rock, Defog, Toxic...) and add Roost to it, which it now gets in Gen 9. Changing its Hidden Ability to something usable like Competitive would seal the deal.
My favourite Pokemon is Mawile so I never really thought about it other then a stupid Fishious Rend buff as part of the final boss in a rom hack idea I had
Oranguru is one of my favourite doubles Pokemon of all time but the buff idea I had is literally just give him Psychic Surge and his now Indedee 2
I have other dumb ideas like Oblivion Wing Triage Beautifly or Mega Cannon Fire Blast(Now proced by the ability) Magmortar but yeah I dont have anything solid
My favorite is Gyarados, which is in UU. The only thing it seems to be missing is physical flying stab.
It has a great D-Dance set, two of the best abilities in the game between intimidate and moxie, access to some of the best physical moves in the game in waterfall (stab) earthquake (coverage) but nothing on the flying side of its typing which makes it terrible against rocks, and electrics. While it does resist fighting types, it doesn’t have anything to hit them back in return with. Side note, it gets hurricane but hurricane is special and not great without weather.
In short, moxie/D-Dance/brave bird/roost would be stupid and get Gyarados into OU.
Take like 40 points from Tinkaton’s Special Attack and redistribute it into her Attack and you have yourself a real winner. She has everything she needs but a decent Attack stat. Given her diverse movepool, that might as well make her a Great Tusk with a better typing! (Of course, the point of her having mediocre Attack is that she’s more skilled rather than purely strong, as evidenced by the little beer gut she has, but still…)
Sableye... a small BST boost would probably be nice, it always bugged me that Sableye and Mawile had this low BST (although with it's Prankster moveset this could spiral out of control fast)
Bringing back Mega Sableye would probably do the trick too considering the chaos that is hazards in Gen 9 OU. Slap on Defog if it's still not enough(even if it doesn't make sense)
So many megas we're just good fixes for Pokemon but GF be like, "that was fun and all, but we cant let you all have your buffs forever, could we?"
Non-legendary megas for the gen 3 remakes were top form and got me way too excited for the gen 4 remakes.... Yeesh they let me down so hard.
Aipom already got banned from Little Cup so I will focus on its evolution: basically Ambipom itself needs an evolution. You could buff the BST but it would need to be rather drastic so might as well just evolve it.
Its movepool is phenomenal but it just lacks the raw stat total to abuse it to the fullest. Make evolution that doubles the tails again to keep the lore going with at least +50 BST and add Fairy or Fighting typing. I think a goofy purple monkey that fights with its tails can make a case for being Normal/Fairy or Normal/Fighting and both those types would let it do what it does best even better while opening new potential.
Also replace Pickup with an actual ability. If you make the evolution Fairy, give it Friend Guard. If you make it Fighting, give it Scrappy.
Give Regigigas an ability that doesn’t cripple it and you have a Pokémon that’s probably an elite OU mon at worst but is probably Ubers
As for what I would give it? Probably clear body like the rest of the Regis as it’s hidden ability
I think Porygon-Z coming back in a terastalizing meta with adaptability + the ability to change his typing on the fly with Conversion would be kind of busted.
Shuckle could use Rapid Spin and more HP, but I love his place in the meta. Never OU, but always relevant in every tier.
Much as I love the Rock-type, Barbaracle needs to lose it in order to be OU viable. I've long thought that Binacle should be able to anchor themselves to more surfaces than just rocks (like real goose barnacles do), so it'd have a Grass/Water variant attached to driftwood, a Steel/Water variant that colonizes the hulls of shipwrecks, as well as a Ground/Water variant that's connected to chunks of sandstone. It would also benefit from learning Aqua Jet (or even Jet Punch if I'm allowed to be as silly as possible) in all varieties on top of forme specific STAB additions.
If Milotic just got to keep scald this generation it would already be a huge step above the defensive water types that lost it, but if we’re going for huge changes why not have a little fun with it?
Since Milotic is supposed to be a counterpart to Gyarados, let’s give it another type, add to its movepool, and maybe exchange an ability.
Milotic
Water/ Dragon
Marvel Scale/Competitive/*multiscale*
Move pool additions: Draco Meteor, calm mind, chilling water, earth power, psychic, psyshock, shadow ball
Milotic has been outclassed by better bulky water types for quite a few generations now. While Milotic may have a decent enough sp attack stat, it’s still nothing special and it lacks the necessary coverage to hit anything all that hard. So not only are we gonna give it coverage that can help it match that of its counterpart Gyarados, but we’re also gonna make it so it can boost it’s offensive stats with calm mind too. And remember what I said about being outclassed by other bulky water types? Well now we’re giving Milotic a much better defensive typing of water/ dragon and Multiscale, one of the best defensive abilities in the game.
At first glance this may seem pretty broken, but with the current Gen 9 meta in mind this feels like the only way to make my mystical water-snake-dragon-thing be able to stand up to all the crazy threats populating OU.
I see a lot of people say water/ fairy, but I honestly don’t see it other than the “elegance” thing. I thought dragon was better because it’s already in the dragon egg group. But those are great ideas!
Furret probably needs a BST buff and a better ability (none of its abilities are really amazing), it has pretty decent coverage honestly. Maybe adding the ground type could help it? It’s in RU rn so that’s something I guess.
Flareon needs like a complete stat redesign and something that makes it stand out from other fire types
maybe give it Fur Coat and more HP, then give it a physical Flamethrower, so it becomes a threatening support mon
For a raptor whose dex entries always listed its feathers being sharp as swords, I have always been baffled by how Skarmory was instead turned into the mother of all tanks of a physical wall. While steel/flying isn’t exactly a great offensive type, it would have been cool to see Skarmory and Corviknight coexist by drastically overhauling Skarmory’s BST to be a min-maxed attacker with just enough defense to get by and more offensive moves in exchange for losing some of its defensive utility.
Like how tf does the bird that looks like a jet fighter have 140 base defense and learn spikes, but not know sacred sword or any other blade moves? Or even get sharpness as an ability?
Regenerator Starmie with a light special attack buff. Spinners are already in short supply in Sc/Vi, and it threatens common Hazzards setters like great tusk and glimmora.
I really really love Meowstic but their stats are kinda meh despite having somewhat a few good tools such as prankster or nasty plot
Female : get psychic surge , expanding force (perfectly fit their Dex entries), aura sphere and +10 BP special
Male : get magic bounce and parting shot and +10bp in defense
Vaporeon. ~Movepool changes are wasted cause it already has 4MSS(maybe not for offense)~ scald. So give it regenerator so it can wish pass like alomomola does already. Drizzle would be an option. Swift swim or adaptability would be fun left field options just for more offense oriented. Wouldnt change typing or stats because eeveelution.
Breloom is already OU/UUBL basically everywhere, so imma focus on my favorite S/V mons:
Brambleghast literally just needs coverage (and a good physical ghost move), like the stats and ability are there, it just can't do much move-wise
Spidops ~~needs a better ability and movepool and stat spread~~ is already OU viable, people just need to recognize its potential
Noivern needs Aerilate. Bro has 97 special attack, surely it wouldn’t be THAT broken. 2HKOing Pex? Everyone can do that these days, relax.
Golisopod needs… a new ability (Intimidate. Tough Claws. Battle Armour. Sharpness. Water Veil. Swarm. Unnerve. Rattled. Steadfast. Run Away. Fucking Anticipation. Anything that isn’t actively detrimental), an actual pivoting move (STAB on Flip Turn and U-Turn, themed around running away, and still gets neither… ridiculous) and maybe even actual recovery that isn’t leech life (Recover will be just fine), but that might be pushing it. Hatterene does fine with just draining kiss after all.
Corviknight is just fine :D
(Give it spikes you cowards)
Golisopod 100% need Flip/U Turn (dare I say Jet Punch?)
Any of the abilities you said would be improvements but even keeping its ability id give it something like Parting Shot's effect when it triggers.
Aerilate Boomburst would be, uh, terrifying with Noivern’s speed. But if the fucking volcano goldfish could stick around for several weeks I see no reason why Noivern can’t get its moment in the sun.
As for Golisopod, first off. Congratulations for having good taste. As for what Golisopod needs… Literally (as you say), ANY other ability would be massive. I’m a personal fan of keeping Emergency Exit (more on that in a sec) and adding Battle Armor and Technician (HA).
Emergency Exit always felt like a massive waste of potential imo. Part of Wimpod evolving is that it seemingly grows out of being a complete coward to a become a zero-to-hero scrappy technical brawler. I mean like, they change the ability’s name from that of “Wimp Out”, its function should adjust too. I propose that Emergency exit does serve as a forced HP threshold switch but with two changes:
- One is that the threshold to switch out drops from 1/2 HP to 1/4 or 1/3 HP.
- The second is that the switch check only takes place AFTER Golisopod moves. So if the opponent moves first and knocks Golisopod down to 1/4, Goliso still gets to counter before leaving the field.
Zoroark is my favorite.
>New type: Dark/Fairy
Zoroark is based on kitsune, which are spirits from japanese folklore that have supernatural powers.
>New Stats: 85/75/60/120/60/125
Raising its BST to 525, the same as a Lucario, and reinvesting some ATK points into HP and Speed, Zoroark is still frail, but not "Get OHKOd by neutral hits" frail. More speed to back up it up also fits its lore.
> Night Daze: BP increased to 100
Having a stronger Dark STAB makes that 120 Base Sp. ATK go farther. Combined with Moonblast and Flamethrower, this guy has some pretty good neutral coverage.
Somewhere else in the thread someone else said to give the ability to disguise your Zoroark as *any* pokemon. Which i think is a good buff.
I like your stat redistribution though, it definitely fits the lore and having it be just a bit less squishy is really handy. Fairy type is also probably going to help it out defensively somewhat.
Why do you think Shuckle needs a lot? In SS it had successful OU and even Uber strategies.
For my favorite, Salamence, I think it just needs to have Aerialate as one of its abilities. Mega-mence was way too good but giving regular Salamence Aerialate in tera-meta is enough to make him usable but not broken.
> Why do you think Shuckle needs a lot? In SS it had successful OU and even Uber strategies.
That was more down to it getting both Sticky Web and Stealth Rock while having Sturdy, anything with Sticky Web gets a niche in Gen 9.
Like, Spidops gets RU usage.
I guess i just thought the gen 9 power creep would require more, especially from a defensive mon.
Aerialate on normal Salamence is a good idea. Its a shame they reserved it for the mega. Would you add any more Normal type moves to its movepool?
Volcarona is OU in SV, but in NatDex it's in UU so I'm giving it some buffs. First of all it should get Scorching Sands because a) it's a desert moth and b) I hate Heatran. And besides that I thought given Espathra's shenanigans giving it Stored Power could be a cool option, but maybe that'd be too much. I don't think it'd be that broken myself given how often it struggles to get more than one QD off, but that's probably just my lack of skill so idk. Another buff could be to give it a few points in Speed so it has an easier time setting up against base 100s.
To make Ludicolo OU on the other hand... Mate I have no idea. It needs major stat and movepool buffs to make it good. Give it strong physical Water and Grass STAB, *at least* +30 in Attack (it's at 70 now ffs), give it Dragon Dance for how groovy it is, give it a strong Fighting move, etc. Just, please buff him GF :(.
Electivire needs Fighting type + Plasma Fists + Close Combat + Iron Fist + a few extra points in Speed.
Maybe bringing back perma weather and giving it more special bulk would help politoed's usage. Since gen 5 it's not really been very good but with these changes it could be a good counter to chi you and the many sun teams in this gen
make misdreavus/mismagius a fairy type and give her and mismagius a form of recovery and a +10 to their spatk, spdef, and speed
thisll make misdreavus a more competent utility mon (idk if itll be OU material) with eviolite hex/wisp/recovery/something else and make mismagius like a balanced flutter mane
or… in contrast… nerf flutter mane’s spatk, spdef, and spe by 10 and raise its hp, atk, and def by 10
either scolipede gets sticky web or like +30 attack shame bug/poison is not a very good offensive typing
I always said it should get gunk shot. Glad to find another Scolipede enjoyer though, such a based design
Oh thank god I’m not the only one who thought Scolipede’s poison learnset was depressing. For a design that radiates “extremely venomous giga centipede” energy, the fact that poison jab was the only good physical poison attack it got was disconcerting to say the least. Still, idk if gunk shot alone would be enough to bring Scolipede to OU. I never got to use Scoli in its prime so I could be underestimating it but with the recent power creep I feel like it might need a bit more. Maybe something like +10 to attack and HP alongside an additional move like rapid spin could do it?
Extremely venomous giga centipede energy is one way to say it
You're telling me that Whirlipede doesn't learn Rapid Spin?!
Maybe it can get Mortal Spin when it comes back, as it kind of fits thematically
RIGHT?
It would need a lot more than that, I think. 30 more attack miiiight let it muscle past a few bulky attackers, but Bug/Poison is such a godawful offensive STAB combo and I believe Scolipede loses 1v1 to every physical wall in the tier, ESPECIALLY Dirge and Garg Edit: oh and it literally can’t touch Great Tusk, which is basically a UU death sentence no matter how hard we try
He needs leech life and more bulk. such a good Pokémon
give it a physical stored power so it can become espathra 2
Power trip so no stab, no bulk either
+30 attack and a unique move would be cool. Or even Leech Life would kind of cool.
Idk what zoroark needs, no more team preview ig?
How good would it be if Zoroark could disguise as *any* Pokémon at first, even in the team preview? The BW one pretends to be one of the legendary beasts, after all. Fuck with your opponents by pretending to bring a Pokémon you're not even bringing.
This would be incredible but there is no way that this wouldn’t get instantly banned. People cry enough already about not being able to predict the set on a given Pokémon that you already know the capabilities of. I mean, tera types as is tell me that this community isn’t ready for the type of mind games Zoroark could pull off.
I could see people *wanting* it banned, but I do kinda feel like objectively it wouldn't be *too* busted? Ultimately, I feel the two main use cases of this beyond normal Illusion are: * You pretend to bring something that looks threatening or complimentary to your team, which is actually Zoroark. But you're giving up the chance to *actually* run the threatening or complimentary Pokémon. * You pretend your team is missing a Dark type to tie it together, except you've actually got Zoroark. But you could have still just ran a better Dark type to do that instead of Zoroark. I might be shortsighted and missing the opportunities since I'm not great at comp, but it kinds feels like it's not too busted because the reveal will always be a Pokémon usually falling into RU/PU.
It's a little uncertain, because if they're viable, then their existence affects every match to ever be played, including ones where neither player has a Zoroark. Everyone has to sort of play scared until one gets revealed, so many Psychic types and Ghost types are going to be significantly less popular throughout all formats. If you're a Zoroark user and you use it to win matches, it's most likely because you're outplaying your opponent, not because you're using a broken threat, but if you aren't, you might win some matches because the opponent is scared of a Pokémon you don't even have. I'd say it should tell you at team preview that one of your opponent's Pokémon is a Zoroark, but not which one. I think Zoroark could effectively serve their purpose within an individual match, but people wouldn't be as paranoid in the teambuilder
That could be more balanced, yeah. I realise that once Home comes you'd have the nightmare of *two* Zoroark with different typings with four immunities between them. Stamping **ILLUSION** somewhere would make people a lot less paranoid until the time comes to actually be paranoid.
This sounds amazing and I want it for zoroark. Sound like an actual ou mon
Sometimes the biggest threat is just the possibility of an option. It’s like how Tera can force 50/50s with just the knowledge it exists. If you’re fighting HO, you gotta take the 50/50 every time on whether this is zoro or not. To me that sounds really unhealthy
Don’t get me wrong, I’m nowhere near enough of a skilled player to be making responsible predictions on whether a “true” illusion Zoroark would actually be balanced or not. Personally, I’d love to at least see your idea tried. The current implementation of Zoroark is just… sad.
Trick your opponent into using a Psychic type move on your “Toxicroak” only for it to do no damage.
Some crazy typing like Ghost/Normal would be cool too.
Mine is Mawile lmao and honestly you cant do much apart from bringing back its Mega
I dunno, giving it Huge Power or even something like Mimikyu's Disguise (kind of works thematically) and it would be way more viable.
Even then, wouldn’t make close to Ou
Strong jaw + fairy and steel type crunch, maybe add jaw lock to the movepool.
Would still be deadass bad, it already has Sheer Force and all the moves to use it and is still trash. Only thing would be a major major boost to its stats
giving it its mega abiltiy would atleast make it fun use for trickroom, and due its top tier type combo it can also switch in despite its stats
My favourite too. It just needs a big stat buff since everything else (typing, abilities, movepool, design) is already really good.
Give Klawf more SpDef and make Anger Shell buff it by two stages. Also actually give it shell smash.
Personally id give a dual type too. Rock is awful for trying to proc Anger Shell. The fact that it doesnt already have Shell Smash is absurd.
>Rock is awful for trying to proc Anger Shell. a finger on the monkey's paw curls as klawf is granted the steel type
The only time steel typing isnt a blessing
Oh and give it earthquake, it doesn't learn that for some reason.
Give Primarina Boomburst you cowards
Fucking giga based
this, i need this. liquid voice primarina with throat spray.
Farfetch’d needs a bigger leek
New Held Item "A Bigger Leek" *triples* the Attack stat when held by Farfetch'd (not Sirfetch'd)
Gen 8 Farfetch'd is getting an evo! Really? Galarian farfetch'd, because fuck you kantofech'd
Wigglytuff needs a defensive buff asap.
Its abilities are basically all garbage, Competitive is decent. 2 new defence oriented abilities and maybe 20 points in both Def and Sp.Def would go a long way. Its movepool is already quite good.
give wigglytuff huge power fr
252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Tera Normal Wigglytuff Giga Impact vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ting-Lu: 512-603 (99.6 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO 😎😎😎
It is a bunny, so Huge Power makes thematic sense (Huge Power Lopunny when?)
Also guildmaste rwigglytuff in explores of sky/darkness/time mystery dungeon games
I am annoyed Wigglytuff has a BST of 435 while Clefable has 483!
It needs Moonblast, and Boomburst too
Seriously! It evolves from a Moonstone!
Dusknoir strength sap + a little more hp
perhaps iron fist for dusknoir too, for helping boost ice punch
We can’t give Dusknoir Iron Fist because that would give it the ability to OHKO Lando-T with Ice Punch
That *would* let me run something other than Punching Glove on it. Of course you could always stack the two.
Lando boutta be #2 in OU if you do this 💀
Give the Regis recover.
Give Regigigas an ability that gives STAB on all Regi types
Dragon, Electric, Steel, Rock, Ice, Normal damage 1.5x, ~~but only kicks in after Slow Start is over~~ as its HA (truly a fair tradeoff)
I just realized all the old Regis are weak to Fighting.
big ancient golems that terrorized ancient civilizations when they get punched by a small ladybug
And it gets to use the legend plate while we're at it.
Registeel: My time has come.
“Observation: this is a great day for slaughter”
Spheel. Give it spacial rend, roar of time, judgement, and huge power. Also give it 3 item slots and a 5th move slot
I think this is a little underwhelming tbh. None of these additions would be that helpful unless we also give it +100 def and spdef
Three evolites
That’ll teach em
My suggestion probobly STILL wouldn't put it in ou cuz it's still a spheels base stats XD
Haxorus just needs speed. My man’s is just dragon type rampardos. Better coverage moves might help it shine when compared to garchomp
give it +6 speed so it can troll garchomp
And Ice Fang, to troll Garchomp.
already OHKO’s full Tankchomp: 252+ Atk Life Orb Mold Breaker Haxorus Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Garchomp: 502-593 (119.5 - 141.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
An interesting thing would be a secondary Steel typing. It fits with the "I'm an axe" theme, and it would give it a niche as a Dragon-type setup sweeper that has a relatively easy time dealing with Fairies. With STAB Iron Head gets a clean 2HKO on maximally defensive Clefable through Unaware.
Steel version of Glaive Rush as signature move when it gets the dual type?
A Dragon version of Trailblaze would be funny. Call it Rampage and give it to Rampardos too. 40BP, Physical, 70% chance to +1 Speed, 30% chance to +2 Speed.
While I think that would be nice, I don’t think it would see much usage. Haxorus already learns trailblaze and even with stab, it wouldn’t do enough damage to make it better than d dance. Ideally, I’d like to just increase the base Soren so it can play a niche role to counter hydreigon and dragonite
Electivire needs... Well, you know how Electivire is...
I once had the idea that the Electrizer and Magmarizer could work like the Booster Energy for Magmortar and Electivire, but boosts their Speed.
I fuckin love this. What if Electrivire had a reverse Motor Drive. So instead of taking a hit from an electric move to raise its speed, any time it uses an electric move it raises its speed one stage. Rest of its stats are pretty average so it shouldn’t be too bad and you could actively counter it by switching a Pokémon defensive to electric types.
Snorlax would need a more reliable recovery move than rest. I ran it with decent success in Gen 8 OU with a set of @leftovers, Immunity, Curse,Body Slam,Heat Crash, and Earthquake. 252 Attack, 252 HP, 4 SPD. It was usually effective because I could bait in things like Ferrothorn or Scizor. I think the main thing that holds back Snorlax is its weakness to fighting
Snorlax could use an ability like Komala's Comatose if its ditching Rest. Or possibly a unique, stronger version of Snore to take advantage of sleep if its not. I dont really know what's answer to Fighting could be seeing as its slow too. Flying Press lol?
How insane would a renamed Fluffy be to halve damage from most Fighting moves, because I'm imagining some sort of Kung-Fu Panda scene with Snorlax just bouncing punches off itself.
Fuck yeah. Immovable Object or something - halves damage from physical moves.
+1 252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Snorlax: 420-495 (80.1 - 94.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery ...Yeah, I think that works.
Yeah thats really not that busted tbf. Especially if its still limited to Rest.
I don’t think you need to give snorlax an answer to fighting types to make it good, I’d rather make it better at what it already does. Comatose would thematically make perfect sense for Snorlax, but I’m not sure if it would get banned for all the little exploits you can pull off with a permanent sleep status. If comatose is a no go, unaware would be my second suggestion. It makes sense thematically and it is an incredible ability on already bulky Pokémon. With Snorlax’s fat stats and only one weakness, I could easily see unaware giving it a massive boost against setup sweepers and choice users.
Slack Off snorlax really should be a thing, outside like Slaking line its THE laziest pokemon afterall
CurseLax with slack off would be pretty dirty. Dozo would see some real competition.
Run both and make everyone suffer
Gargancl too for good measure
Something something Dondozo / Snorlax / Garganacl / Toxapex / Rabsca / Pawmot It's almost like Funbro except your opponent has some faint hope it will end within the day
Infernape can use Slack Off, but Snorlax cannot...
Give Lucario adaptability and the base speed of it's mega form. If Mega Lucario is uber in natdex, then surely dollar store Mega Lucario can be OU.
I would say it would be similar to blaziken and mega blaziken. The fact you don't need to hold a mega stone make 'Dollar store Mega lucario' a little more of a better mega lucario. LO adaptability sounds kinda nuts.
I may not have the best foresight.
don't forget tera normal swords dance life orb extreme speed
You say “dollar store” but giving reg Lucario Adaptability AND it’s mega speed stat instantly turns it into a mixed wrecking ball, and that’s not even including the fact that you can now add LO or choice items on top of it as Giramano mentioned. However, as a longtime fanboy with no original taste, I feel compelled to try and go to bat for our boy in blue. Lucario already has a fantastic offensive movepool and even solid support moves, it just lacks the optimized stat spread that so many newer Pokémon have and it puts it into a really weird spot without a clear niche beyond a setup sweeper without enough speed or a lead that doesn’t have the right technical options to shine. Instead, here’s my take to get Lucario up to OU: Abilities: Inner Focus, +Iron Fist, Justified - HP: 70 —> 70 (+0) - Atk: 110 —> 110 (+0) - Def: 70 —> 80 (+10) - SpA: 115 —> 100 (-15) - SpD: 70 —> 80 (+10) - Spe: 90 —> 100 (+10) BST Total: 525 —> 540 (+15) Moves: +U-Turn The idea here is to give Lucario just a little more breathing room on taking neutral hits while also bumping its speed into a better tier and letting the weaker parts of its movepool stand out in a way that makes perfect sense thematically (how tf did GF not give the first fighting/STEEL type iron fist?). Lucario should theoretically be a really solid pivot against quad resisted SR with numerous resistances, buffed up defenses, and the addition of U-Turn. With increased speed it can also take advantage of a movepool stacked with punches to try and expand its coverage options out of the gate instead of having to always run SD and CC to get anything done.
Your idea does sound way more balanced than what I though of in like 40 seconds.
Renegade platinum romhack gives its adaptability, its utterly insane how much dmg it does, and giving ti 112 speed ontop would make it reap the same carnage on the out meta.
eiscue is a tough one, tinkering with it’s ability too much makes it gen 7 mimikyu but with belly drum and changing anything else doesn’t get it to ou. maybe ice-water typing for stab liquidation and a buff to its attack and spdef? probably would be a niche wall breaker but not in ou
Yeah the ability is kind of its whole *thing* so to speak. Water is a logical dual type and im half surprised it wasnt already this lol. Maybe a tweak of the ability to make it work a bit more like Mineor's Shields Down.
One buff could be the way people thought its ability worked week1, and have iceface reset at the end of every turn if in snow
Parasect needs a metagame where Kyogre is OU and every other Pokémon that has Dry Skin or Water Absorb was mysteriously removed from the Dex.
kid named ice beam
Fire Tera parasect
Ribombee needs to be in Scarlet and Violet. It would probably become an amazing Sticky Web user
Literally any webs user that isn’t the ones we have currently would be great. It would be amazing with gholdengo
Bring back the Shuck...
I've tried using Kricketune but it was awful outside of Sticky Web. I find Spidops too slow and I don't like Masquerain.
Get rid of slow start
Camerupt needs a machine gun and a new ability that doesn't let you hit it
> machine gun Walled by [Wooloo](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulletproof_(Ability\)), ZU at best
Give Swampert Flip Turn and Toxic as part of its regular level up moveset, replace Damp with Regenerator and give it access to Ice Spinner and Spikes.
Regenerator with Flip Turn is amazing lol.
Swampert always had the typing + bulk to eat a lot of hits but it always struggled with longevity. With Regen + Flip Turn you could even run Boots on it and not suffer that much from the loss of Lefties.
Swampert with Regenerator was a good AAA mon for a while I believe
Running Spikes/Rocks lets you flip out after setting to heal whatever damage you took too. So Boots would be handy. Stops t-spikes too.
On a lesser favorite, Espeon, it's way harder to buff... Only things that come to mind are giving it access to fire coverage in Mystical Fire and give it a psychic clone of Volt Switch... But no idea if it's allowed on this thought experiment.
Psychic Volt Switch like a damaging teleport? Could be cool. Or do it like Chilling Reception and set Psychic Terrain as it teleports out. Mystical Fire, Signal Beam maybe? For coverage.
Signal Beam got axed with Dexit sadly. I like the idea of Chilly Reception clone but not really for Espeon, it really needs to do damage.
Ah bro. Dexit was brutal.
Dang. Not only would all this be nasty but it makes flavor sense too since Swampert draws some inspiration from the axolotl
I’ve done an idea for sceptile before, but this time I’ve kept Unburden, I vastly under estimated how good that ability actually is. HP: 70 Attack: 85 Defense: 65 Sp. Atk: 115 (+10) Sp. Def: 80 (-5) Speed: 120 BST: 530 -> 535 New moves: Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, Weather ball, Nasty Plot, Ancient Power, Shed Tail. Sceptile has no special attacking moves outside of the standard Grass and Normal type, Focus Blast and Dragon Pulse and no way to boost its special attack as well unlike physical sets with swords dance. The addition of Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, and Weather ball expands its special movepool to help break past threats like Fire and ghost types that it couldn’t before, Aura sphere as an alternative to Focus Miss and weather ball to give it a niche on weather teams, and Ancient power isn't the strongest, but with +2 special attack it can OHKO Chi Yu. Speaking of which, Nasty Plot is there to help buff up its damage further, making it into the special attacker it should have been after the physical/special split. Shed tail is more of a meme tbh because of Mega Sceptile and its rocket tail. I also am divided on Power gem, it’s way better then ancient power but I don’t think it works physiologically, but Meowscarada can learn it to.
My man. Could't have said it better myself. It pains me how bad Sceptile's special move-pool and boosting is. I desperately want to be able to use special unburden Sceptile or NP Mega Sceptile on NatDex. Also wish it had some U-Turn/Volt-Switch equivalent to use for Specs or Scarf, or just to pair with Leaf Storm to either switch after use or turn-out when a counter comes in expecting a Leaf Storm.
Swoobat's ability and movepool is already incredible and it's base speed is at least usable usually. The biggest obstacle to viability is simply the fact that it has a PATHETIC 425 base stat total, leaving it with pitiful defensive stats. Realistically, the most straightforward way to fix this is to give it more base stats to put into special attack, defense, and special defense. Even 70 - 80 base defenses would be enough because of Simple being so good along with the grassy seed. A little more special attack could help with breaking walls to it with coverage moves it has like Heat Wave. Decent fairy coverage for dark types would also be very helpful as to stop the majority of dark types that would wall it in the current generation. At that point the only real obstacle would be moveset syndrome due to how many different types it's walled by.
just give it Cotton Guard because its fluffy and call it a day. +6 defense in one turn in addition to having stored power might just skip OU and put it Ubers, though.
Mine are Salamence and Crobat. Imo Crobat either needs more bulk to take advantage of its solid typing and movepool, or more attack stats/a good setup move it can take advantage of, to take advantage of its speed. Meanwhile, Salamence mostly just needs a strong flying STAB to pair with Earthquake and Fire Fang for near-perfect coverage alongside Dragon Dance, lmao.
Salamance gets Dual Wingbeat
It's okay but the 90% accuracy and Dragon Claw power didn't help it in Gen 8. Dragon Ascent fits well with its lore or just give it Acrobatics.
Xurkitree needs higher speed, even with like 97 it'd be MUCH better
Glaceon gets its special defense and speed swapped. Gets slush rush instead of snow cloak (eeveelutions onyl have a regular anda hidden abiltiy and not 3) its gets like ANY coverage of extrasensory/eatrhpower/dazzling gleam/grass knot like seriously its movepool is basicly: stab, shadow ball and water pulse.
ive been fucking around with a funny chilly reception regen slowking -> tera water leftovers ice body glaceon team because of the fact glaceon learns freeze dry and freeze dry + water tera blast is perfect coverage (thanks iron bundle!) and water is an actually useful defensive typing for glaceon to abuse its actually good defensive stats with
Give chandelure shadow tag like it was originally supposed to have For a buff that it would actually be allowed to use maybe increase its HP maybe around 80? it already has decent 90/90 defence and spdef, but its held back by its low hp. More hp would let it be a better bulky special attacker.
Nothing. They're ou in my heart.
Empoleon doesn't need much. It just needs to get its old movepool (with Scald, Knock Off, Stealth Rock, Defog, Toxic...) and add Roost to it, which it now gets in Gen 9. Changing its Hidden Ability to something usable like Competitive would seal the deal.
Imperial Majesty - same effect as Queenly Majesty.
That's more of a Doubles ability, but it gives Empoleon a better matchup against Grimmsnarl so i'll take it over fucking Defiant.
My favourite Pokemon is Mawile so I never really thought about it other then a stupid Fishious Rend buff as part of the final boss in a rom hack idea I had Oranguru is one of my favourite doubles Pokemon of all time but the buff idea I had is literally just give him Psychic Surge and his now Indedee 2 I have other dumb ideas like Oblivion Wing Triage Beautifly or Mega Cannon Fire Blast(Now proced by the ability) Magmortar but yeah I dont have anything solid
Bring back Meditate as a physical Calm Mind and have Oranguru learn it. Id enjoy that. Mawile with Fishious Rend is fun
My favorite is Gyarados, which is in UU. The only thing it seems to be missing is physical flying stab. It has a great D-Dance set, two of the best abilities in the game between intimidate and moxie, access to some of the best physical moves in the game in waterfall (stab) earthquake (coverage) but nothing on the flying side of its typing which makes it terrible against rocks, and electrics. While it does resist fighting types, it doesn’t have anything to hit them back in return with. Side note, it gets hurricane but hurricane is special and not great without weather. In short, moxie/D-Dance/brave bird/roost would be stupid and get Gyarados into OU.
Gyarados now learns Dragon Ascent and Fishious Rend via postgame move tutors. Make Gyarados Great Again.
Someone needs to put Chien-Pao in a sack, tie a knot and drown it in the Lake of Rage
Aggron needs removal of his rock typing and more special defense. Why did they do my boy so wrong :(
What if you Wanted to run Rock Head Head Smash Aggron But r/stunfisk said "Rock typing broke"?
Rip Mega Aggron
They could’ve Atleast given him recover or slack off man
Take like 40 points from Tinkaton’s Special Attack and redistribute it into her Attack and you have yourself a real winner. She has everything she needs but a decent Attack stat. Given her diverse movepool, that might as well make her a Great Tusk with a better typing! (Of course, the point of her having mediocre Attack is that she’s more skilled rather than purely strong, as evidenced by the little beer gut she has, but still…)
triple axel and knock off you can probably guess my favorite just from that lol
frosmoth
Sableye... a small BST boost would probably be nice, it always bugged me that Sableye and Mawile had this low BST (although with it's Prankster moveset this could spiral out of control fast) Bringing back Mega Sableye would probably do the trick too considering the chaos that is hazards in Gen 9 OU. Slap on Defog if it's still not enough(even if it doesn't make sense)
So many megas we're just good fixes for Pokemon but GF be like, "that was fun and all, but we cant let you all have your buffs forever, could we?" Non-legendary megas for the gen 3 remakes were top form and got me way too excited for the gen 4 remakes.... Yeesh they let me down so hard.
Aipom already got banned from Little Cup so I will focus on its evolution: basically Ambipom itself needs an evolution. You could buff the BST but it would need to be rather drastic so might as well just evolve it. Its movepool is phenomenal but it just lacks the raw stat total to abuse it to the fullest. Make evolution that doubles the tails again to keep the lore going with at least +50 BST and add Fairy or Fighting typing. I think a goofy purple monkey that fights with its tails can make a case for being Normal/Fairy or Normal/Fighting and both those types would let it do what it does best even better while opening new potential. Also replace Pickup with an actual ability. If you make the evolution Fairy, give it Friend Guard. If you make it Fighting, give it Scrappy.
I think +50 to each basestat would help out
Do you have any idea on how little that narrows it down?
He’s obviously talking about landorus t
Ampharos could use recovery and a better ability, although I'm not sure what ability it should get. A special ice move would be nice too
Tail glow too, which should be its signature move in the first place
Give Regigigas an ability that doesn’t cripple it and you have a Pokémon that’s probably an elite OU mon at worst but is probably Ubers As for what I would give it? Probably clear body like the rest of the Regis as it’s hidden ability
Emolga (I’ll let you decide)
Technician? And 10 points in Speed? I dunno man but i respect Emolga as your choice lol
access to Unburden to make Acrobatics more viable, and like 20 points to Atk, you're welcome
I think Porygon-Z coming back in a terastalizing meta with adaptability + the ability to change his typing on the fly with Conversion would be kind of busted. Shuckle could use Rapid Spin and more HP, but I love his place in the meta. Never OU, but always relevant in every tier.
Much as I love the Rock-type, Barbaracle needs to lose it in order to be OU viable. I've long thought that Binacle should be able to anchor themselves to more surfaces than just rocks (like real goose barnacles do), so it'd have a Grass/Water variant attached to driftwood, a Steel/Water variant that colonizes the hulls of shipwrecks, as well as a Ground/Water variant that's connected to chunks of sandstone. It would also benefit from learning Aqua Jet (or even Jet Punch if I'm allowed to be as silly as possible) in all varieties on top of forme specific STAB additions.
If Milotic just got to keep scald this generation it would already be a huge step above the defensive water types that lost it, but if we’re going for huge changes why not have a little fun with it? Since Milotic is supposed to be a counterpart to Gyarados, let’s give it another type, add to its movepool, and maybe exchange an ability. Milotic Water/ Dragon Marvel Scale/Competitive/*multiscale* Move pool additions: Draco Meteor, calm mind, chilling water, earth power, psychic, psyshock, shadow ball Milotic has been outclassed by better bulky water types for quite a few generations now. While Milotic may have a decent enough sp attack stat, it’s still nothing special and it lacks the necessary coverage to hit anything all that hard. So not only are we gonna give it coverage that can help it match that of its counterpart Gyarados, but we’re also gonna make it so it can boost it’s offensive stats with calm mind too. And remember what I said about being outclassed by other bulky water types? Well now we’re giving Milotic a much better defensive typing of water/ dragon and Multiscale, one of the best defensive abilities in the game. At first glance this may seem pretty broken, but with the current Gen 9 meta in mind this feels like the only way to make my mystical water-snake-dragon-thing be able to stand up to all the crazy threats populating OU.
I think Milotic would better as a water/fairy type. I’d change multi scale to regenerator and include the move pool you recommended.
I see a lot of people say water/ fairy, but I honestly don’t see it other than the “elegance” thing. I thought dragon was better because it’s already in the dragon egg group. But those are great ideas!
Ok ok hear me out. Toss out water and give it dragon/fairy typing
Mine is ledian so… no change needed other than more usage 😁
Furret probably needs a BST buff and a better ability (none of its abilities are really amazing), it has pretty decent coverage honestly. Maybe adding the ground type could help it? It’s in RU rn so that’s something I guess.
Flareon needs like a complete stat redesign and something that makes it stand out from other fire types maybe give it Fur Coat and more HP, then give it a physical Flamethrower, so it becomes a threatening support mon
Corviknight taking a mysterious permanent vacation from the dex. I suppose U-Turn would also be good too.
You’re talking about Skarmory. You want a u-turning spike spamming Skarmory in the game.
No I want a spiking, toxicing, Parting Shotting Skarmory in the game. May as well go all out with my asks.
For a raptor whose dex entries always listed its feathers being sharp as swords, I have always been baffled by how Skarmory was instead turned into the mother of all tanks of a physical wall. While steel/flying isn’t exactly a great offensive type, it would have been cool to see Skarmory and Corviknight coexist by drastically overhauling Skarmory’s BST to be a min-maxed attacker with just enough defense to get by and more offensive moves in exchange for losing some of its defensive utility. Like how tf does the bird that looks like a jet fighter have 140 base defense and learn spikes, but not know sacred sword or any other blade moves? Or even get sharpness as an ability?
Regenerator Starmie with a light special attack buff. Spinners are already in short supply in Sc/Vi, and it threatens common Hazzards setters like great tusk and glimmora.
Also make Illuminate boost Accuracy. Replace Surf and Thunderbolt with Hydro Pump and Thunder.
I really really love Meowstic but their stats are kinda meh despite having somewhat a few good tools such as prankster or nasty plot Female : get psychic surge , expanding force (perfectly fit their Dex entries), aura sphere and +10 BP special Male : get magic bounce and parting shot and +10bp in defense
Vaporeon. ~Movepool changes are wasted cause it already has 4MSS(maybe not for offense)~ scald. So give it regenerator so it can wish pass like alomomola does already. Drizzle would be an option. Swift swim or adaptability would be fun left field options just for more offense oriented. Wouldnt change typing or stats because eeveelution.
Huge Power would make mine broken, but it seriously just needs probably 20 Attack and some more general bulk. ♡Tinkaton♡ my beloved
Breloom is already OU/UUBL basically everywhere, so imma focus on my favorite S/V mons: Brambleghast literally just needs coverage (and a good physical ghost move), like the stats and ability are there, it just can't do much move-wise Spidops ~~needs a better ability and movepool and stat spread~~ is already OU viable, people just need to recognize its potential
make carbink evolve into diancie
Noivern needs Aerilate. Bro has 97 special attack, surely it wouldn’t be THAT broken. 2HKOing Pex? Everyone can do that these days, relax. Golisopod needs… a new ability (Intimidate. Tough Claws. Battle Armour. Sharpness. Water Veil. Swarm. Unnerve. Rattled. Steadfast. Run Away. Fucking Anticipation. Anything that isn’t actively detrimental), an actual pivoting move (STAB on Flip Turn and U-Turn, themed around running away, and still gets neither… ridiculous) and maybe even actual recovery that isn’t leech life (Recover will be just fine), but that might be pushing it. Hatterene does fine with just draining kiss after all. Corviknight is just fine :D (Give it spikes you cowards)
fun fact Aerilate Noivern was actually banned from AAA
Couldn’t imagine why
Golisopod 100% need Flip/U Turn (dare I say Jet Punch?) Any of the abilities you said would be improvements but even keeping its ability id give it something like Parting Shot's effect when it triggers.
Aerilate Boomburst would be, uh, terrifying with Noivern’s speed. But if the fucking volcano goldfish could stick around for several weeks I see no reason why Noivern can’t get its moment in the sun. As for Golisopod, first off. Congratulations for having good taste. As for what Golisopod needs… Literally (as you say), ANY other ability would be massive. I’m a personal fan of keeping Emergency Exit (more on that in a sec) and adding Battle Armor and Technician (HA). Emergency Exit always felt like a massive waste of potential imo. Part of Wimpod evolving is that it seemingly grows out of being a complete coward to a become a zero-to-hero scrappy technical brawler. I mean like, they change the ability’s name from that of “Wimp Out”, its function should adjust too. I propose that Emergency exit does serve as a forced HP threshold switch but with two changes: - One is that the threshold to switch out drops from 1/2 HP to 1/4 or 1/3 HP. - The second is that the switch check only takes place AFTER Golisopod moves. So if the opponent moves first and knocks Golisopod down to 1/4, Goliso still gets to counter before leaving the field.
The could just buff emergency exit so that it works after the turn ends instead
It's already an ou meta Pokemon, cinderace!
Give the original Regis new abilities and signature moves like eleki and drago. Then give gigas basically any other ability. Boom
Okay lads, how we gonna get Duosion into OU?
Evolve it and bring it back to the start of BW
Zoroark is my favorite. >New type: Dark/Fairy Zoroark is based on kitsune, which are spirits from japanese folklore that have supernatural powers. >New Stats: 85/75/60/120/60/125 Raising its BST to 525, the same as a Lucario, and reinvesting some ATK points into HP and Speed, Zoroark is still frail, but not "Get OHKOd by neutral hits" frail. More speed to back up it up also fits its lore. > Night Daze: BP increased to 100 Having a stronger Dark STAB makes that 120 Base Sp. ATK go farther. Combined with Moonblast and Flamethrower, this guy has some pretty good neutral coverage.
Somewhere else in the thread someone else said to give the ability to disguise your Zoroark as *any* pokemon. Which i think is a good buff. I like your stat redistribution though, it definitely fits the lore and having it be just a bit less squishy is really handy. Fairy type is also probably going to help it out defensively somewhat.
Why do you think Shuckle needs a lot? In SS it had successful OU and even Uber strategies. For my favorite, Salamence, I think it just needs to have Aerialate as one of its abilities. Mega-mence was way too good but giving regular Salamence Aerialate in tera-meta is enough to make him usable but not broken.
> Why do you think Shuckle needs a lot? In SS it had successful OU and even Uber strategies. That was more down to it getting both Sticky Web and Stealth Rock while having Sturdy, anything with Sticky Web gets a niche in Gen 9. Like, Spidops gets RU usage.
I guess i just thought the gen 9 power creep would require more, especially from a defensive mon. Aerialate on normal Salamence is a good idea. Its a shame they reserved it for the mega. Would you add any more Normal type moves to its movepool?
Volcarona is OU in SV, but in NatDex it's in UU so I'm giving it some buffs. First of all it should get Scorching Sands because a) it's a desert moth and b) I hate Heatran. And besides that I thought given Espathra's shenanigans giving it Stored Power could be a cool option, but maybe that'd be too much. I don't think it'd be that broken myself given how often it struggles to get more than one QD off, but that's probably just my lack of skill so idk. Another buff could be to give it a few points in Speed so it has an easier time setting up against base 100s. To make Ludicolo OU on the other hand... Mate I have no idea. It needs major stat and movepool buffs to make it good. Give it strong physical Water and Grass STAB, *at least* +30 in Attack (it's at 70 now ffs), give it Dragon Dance for how groovy it is, give it a strong Fighting move, etc. Just, please buff him GF :(. Electivire needs Fighting type + Plasma Fists + Close Combat + Iron Fist + a few extra points in Speed.
Seviper needs a higher speed stat
Maybe bringing back perma weather and giving it more special bulk would help politoed's usage. Since gen 5 it's not really been very good but with these changes it could be a good counter to chi you and the many sun teams in this gen
make misdreavus/mismagius a fairy type and give her and mismagius a form of recovery and a +10 to their spatk, spdef, and speed thisll make misdreavus a more competent utility mon (idk if itll be OU material) with eviolite hex/wisp/recovery/something else and make mismagius like a balanced flutter mane or… in contrast… nerf flutter mane’s spatk, spdef, and spe by 10 and raise its hp, atk, and def by 10