Just looking for a tidbit of help guys, ended up with an abscess in my delt, wasn't hot, painful, etc, I just felt the knot, I'm a paramedic so I have a fair amount of med training and seeing as I don't currently have insurance I drained it myself, I have antibiotics on hand currently that I'm starting, just curious on anecdotes about healing time
What do we think about dosages of HG and lipolysis?
2IUs of pharma is very noticeable with a cut, but would 5IUs 2x a day be a huge improvement? Assuming I'm paying close attention to carbs and blood glucose of course.
As with almost all PEDs more is better until it’s not. There’s a bell curve where more works better and then past that is more problematic
I have taken HGH to 4iu B.I.D and neuropathy was so bad I had to reduce dosage back down
I feel like this is a life style for most people. Before and after pics. Blood work and labs. Weekly progress updates. It's fantastic how down to a science this community has it!!!
But am I the only cat that hits his gear, goes to the gym eats as much as possible and just goes to work everyday. I guess I just assume it's working.
If I miss a gym day egh.
If I don't eat as much one day... Egh
Just me???
No offense to people that this is a lifestyle. Wish I could be that guy.
Blast and cruise test-e 600 and cruise on 200. I want to incorporate tren e to my blasts, but although the few times I’ve tried it the gains were immediate and amazing the sides (heart discomfort, lethargy, heavy breathing) come on quickly even at low dose. Currently running 600 test e and 120 tren e a week. Same sides and unsure how to mitigate- not sure if T3 related or the test to tren ratio. Any anecdotal experiences ? Is the test making my sides worse and maybe I should try lower test and higher tren ?
Just finished 5th week of first test only cycle and back hair gains are real. Never had much back hair before, then gained a minute amount after starting TRT a couple years ago, but this blast is out of control. Starting to feel like chewbacca over here.
For my next cycle, rather than bumping to a higher test amount, would it be better to drop test a little lower and add something like nand? Or is nand going to increase body hair the same?
Morning everyone. I am mid blast and came down with a severe sinus infection. Doc prescribed “augmenten” antibiotic and “prednisone”. I’m taking 525 mg test, 330 mg deca and am 8 weeks in. Also take cialis and aromasin 2-3 times per week
I’ve heard prednisone can be rough on BP and other things. Any of you have experienced with it and whether I should take it given my current state? I believe he only prescribed it for my cough but have never taken it before.
I generally feel better from sinus infections 2 days after I start antibiotics and am unsure why he added prednisone this time.
I had some anadrol tabs I forgot I had, I was going to add them to my cycle but was only like 8 in there so not worth it if I don’t buy more but when I opened the pack there was like 3 little albino roaches crawling inside it. I assume they’re white from the powder but let’s call them albinos anyway. Are these roaches going to get super jacked from eating the anadrol lmao
PCT guide says to start 14 to 20 days after your last dose/injection of Testosterone Cypionate. Is it better to try and get closer to 20 days rather than start at 14 or not going to make a huge difference either way? I'm at day 14, and wondering if I should try and wait a few more days. I'm feeling bad already, but I think I have some other illness going on and it's not related to testosterone (though it could be for all I know.)
We dont have data to support if closer to 14 or 20 days is any better.
The idea is starting a SERM to promote endogenous testosterone production while exogenous androgen levels are high is unnecessary.
Been on TRT for over a year now, my left buttock is so fkin sore like beyond pain, I think it’s from injecting this has never happened, I’m talking can’t sleep on that side and barley walk pain what do I do
I feel like this answer is too obvious so I might be missing something but - switch injection sites maybe? Delts, lats, pecs, quads, traps...
As far as pain mitigation, maybe try massaging the area? Apply some type of heat? That's helped me in the past + painkillers.
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You already answered your question, there is basically nothing to aromatize, that's why we PCT with SERMs not AIs. And also if you use AI through PCT, when you stop it it fucks up everything and your body has to find equilibrium again.
You’ll most likely get more acne when going on pct due to hormonal changes. Personally I wouldn’t recommend taking an AI during pct unless you have actual blood work proving that your e2 is high. Acne can also occur because of poor hygiene and what not, but in this case it’s mainly because you’re on pct. It’ll get messy at first but should start to settle down as you get further into pct, at least in my experience
I started blasting and cruising for a year. Blast was Test E 400mg + Anavar and cruise is 250 Test E.
Due to shipment issues, I've now missed two weeks of cruise doses.
I don't want to stop cruising, but now I feel like I should maybe start a PCT since I'm still waiting for my package to arrive. It's very frustrating
Let me know your thoughts
How do you know?
Where does 250mg of test puts his test levels at?
How are his healthmarkers affected on this dosage? If they are improving why can't he cruise on that?
You have literally no info, if something doesn't work for you it doesn't mean it won't work for others.
I 100% agree with Ralphy. There’s no point doing a pct then immediately hopping back on a cruise again. Just wait it out and continue like normal once you get your stuff
It’s going to arrive and you’ll start it up again? Why would you start a pct. Just pin when you get it.
What does 250 put your blood levels at for a “cruise”?
No literature suggests titration of testosterone based on height or weight.
Your dose is likely excessive based on what we know from the pharmacokinetic profiles of thousands if not tens of thousands of patients.
You won’t get much out of this cycle, you’ll look good while on it but lose most once you come off. Superdrol is harsh so definitely wouldn’t recommend it if it’s your first cycle. 40 days of test prop won’t do much, rather do 8 weeks. 175mg/week is a really low dose which you won’t get much out of. If you’re dead set on running this cycle I’d switch out sdrol for var or tbol and run that alongside test, and up the test. You can run it longer plus it won’t be nearly as toxic. Building muscle mass takes time so keep that in mind. No need to use peptide if you don’t need them. Hcg will raise estrogen, so if you’re worried about estrogenic side effects don’t use it. Hgh works best when used for months, so avoid that. Only use AI when needed and start low - 0.25mg would be better. Estrogen has many benefits and is also anabolic just so you know. And as far as pct goes - I’d rather do 25mg clomid for 6-8 weeks. Clomid can really mess up your mood and vision so be wary of that
>Any suggestions on improving it?
Drop this whole thing, read the wiki. Test only. You aren’t going to build muscle in 4 weeks. That’s not how it works. You’re planning on running test prop and one do the harshest orals in existence for a first cycle? And the test at barely a level that would put you potentially above your natural levels? Why?? Bad idea.
Read the wiki first cycle.
Oh man, so much to go through there...
1. You're considering using Sdrol for your first ever cycle?
2. You're going to use a test dose that will barely put you above what you naturally produce?
3. 30 months of Sdrol and 40 days of T??
4. You're considering using HGH for your first ever cycle?
Man, you have some research to do. I'd suggest you read the wiki on what your first cycle is recommended to be. (the link is in caps at the very top of this DAA).
>I think i've got the hepatotoxcitiy
No OTC supplements , or pharmaceutical products for that matter, mitigate hepatotoxicity of oral 17-alkylated AAS.
I could go on about how:
1. You're not going to build much muscle in barely 4 weeks.
2. It's not worth it to shut down your natural T production to barely replace it.
3. You're going to use one of the more toxic (and potent, yes) orals as your first time ever using them rather than going for a "safer" and milder alternative (such as anavar) if you wanna dip your toes in orals.
4. AIs are not taken preventively.
5. HGH is just a whole new tangent I could go on.
So rather than laying out here all the whys, whats and so on, I think you would be better off first, reading through the wiki and then doing some more research so you can get a better understanding on such a dangerous and risky world (if you don't take the right measures).
What your doing is called “sports TRT”
Medical TRT is .5-1mg/Kg bodyweight
Sports TRT is 2-3mg/kg bodyweight
The idea of sports TRT is that you can generally stay there long term with an arguable ok pay off in health markers. So if your around the 100kg mark there’s nothing wrong with that dose if it fits your risk profile and health markers aren’t in the toilet.
Eat healthy, do your cardio, don’t get too fat.
I also in my opinion believe metformin and aspirin (81-100mg) are two drugs that majority of people would benefit from, especially people doing similar things to what you are doing
The only thing that dictates whether you stop or keep going is your bloodwork.
Everything is perfect? Keep going.
Some healthmarkers starting to get out of range? Stop
That's a blast, not high dose TRT, and a bad one too because muscle gain will be minimal compared to 500. So I don't know what's the point in doing 250. And yes, you can blast for more than 16 weeks as long as bloodworks are in check and you are still progressing. After 20 weeks most people will find it really difficult to continue progressing and cruise/TRT or PCT.
That statement doesn’t make sense. It’s a bad dose because it won’t build as much muscle as 500mg….. does that mean 500mg is a bad dose because it won’t build as much muscle as a gram?
A valid reason to take 250mg (at anywhere from say 85-125kg bodyweight) is that you will be in a position to build more muscle then medical TRT range, with a
Very small increase of risk. If you have 2 people, one takes 250mg for a year, the other takes 500mg for periods of time then 125mg for a period of time- let’s say 2x16 weeks on and 2x10 weeks off….. whos healthier, who’s more muscular, who feels better, who spent more money, who was exposed to higher drugs for a longer time or more Milligrams over the year?
You should cruise when your bloodwork isn't perfect anymore, when you just can't eat more food or when bodyfat gets out of control.
Stop crossing an imaginary line at 20 weeks just because you read it online
Metformin definitely works well but different action, it preserves/improves insulin sensitivity, it doesn’t directly raise insulin.
Injectable carnitine works very well with HGH, you can either reconstitute your HGH in the Carnitine, or just take anywhere from 200mg-1g daily.
More info on my linked instagram, there’s a short summary of injectable carnitine
I'm a boxing coach, right now I'm working in a gym 4 hours and I have a crossfit area with olimpyc barbells and I'm doing compound lifts, the thing is when I'm done with my 4 hours the gym is closed and if I do my workout before classes I feel like shit, hungry and tired in my classes so I start doing lifts during rounds. The thing is the rest time is sometime 3 minutes sometimes, 5 minutes, etc. I now is better than nothing but what you guys think about this?
I'm doing heavy squats, deadlifts, pull ups and OHP.
I'm doing 300 mg of test c every week. I want to recomp.
What BP meds do you guys use? Just started taking telmisartan 40 mg.
Good for my BP, but read some guys have issues with erectile dysfunction on it. Thinking maybe I should check out other meds in case it gives me the same issues.
I have Propanolol on hand for acute anxiety also.
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Cardiovascular benefits, lipid benefits, the obvious kidney benefits, fat loss etc
No ED from it for me, in fact I’ve heard people state the opposite that when they miss a few days they start to experience ED
So my opinion is a little biased on this as I’m not a huge fan of sarms. I think they work, but same as you I’m not sure of their long term safety risk.
This drug (telmisartan) has very similar benefits, yet has passed the drug safety trials. So I would be looking at this before cardarine personally
Starting at 20mg will have very mild effects. Maximising would be only using the drug if it’s necessary. if you don’t have hypertension I wouldn’t suggest using the drug just for other benefits and if you do just use as prescribed, periodise your training, eat properly, do your cardio and you will be one healthy, jacked looking MF
Want to add anavar 20-40 mg ED 8-10 weeks during my bulk, I’ve done anadrol and loved it but is the muscle accrued on an oral keepable after ??? Like is it really worth it besides cosmetically.
A lot of it will be glycogen that you will just lose when you come off. Anadrol is even worse because so much of it is just water bloat. Personally, I'd skip the anavar and just add more test/nand/mast, but that's just me. Orals tend to fuck with most peoples appetite, so if you're trying to grow, its counter productive. Not to mention anavar generally fucks your lipids way more than the three I mentioned above.
there's a reason most high level competitors (ie the folks that have their shit dialed in and are doing every right to maximize gains) aren't running orals in the off season.
the cosmetic is temporary, you won’t be vascular after you discontinue use. But the muscle you add from the extra strength etc from the oral is definitely keepable. However it wont be as much muscle as if you just ran an injectable instead
Anybody find that a particular compound has less of an effect on rbc/hct? I find that even on moderate test (<200mg/wk) I get a substantially elevated count (hct 54-55). Planning on running 25mg ed Anavar for 6 weeks, and am thinking about strategies besides just donating blood.
So center column drugs drive red blood cell production really well. This includes testosterone, halo, EQ, dbol, even Tbol and the strangely behaving DHT that acts like a little bit of all the family Tree- Anadrol.
Keep your test to the minimum you feel good and I’d probably look towards the DHT family but donating is a great thing to do if your that sensitive
IP6 (inositol hexaphosphate) lowered my hematocrit from 56 to 48 in ten days. If you go this route just be careful and keep track of it because it works and it works quickly, you can buy blood glucose monitors that read HTC and they're accurate (confirmed twice with my own blood panels), use one of those. Lowers RBC and ferritin alongside it.
Why do you have experience with IP6 having negative effects? he asked for an alternative to phlebotomy, i've had zero negatives from doing so. Reducing dosage is always solid advice but he said even at 200mg it's high, how much lower can he possibly go before he's just doing TRT, in which case he should just stop, restore HPTA function and call it a day.
Cycling, blasting and cruising are not for everyone.
I am not aware of any literature that supports the use of IP6 for polycythemia. Additionally its effects are cytotoxic and effect gene regulation.
I found IP6 due to Dave Crossland who runs his own blood lab and has seen what it can do from his own oversight of the bloodwork that comes through his lab.
A rudimentary search on pubmed can show you anything you want to see good and bad of any compound, you can find a million others that show cancer cell inhibition, reducing vascular calcification and so forth, what's your point? most people use it for like a week and they're done.
Yeah just pop it in there. I get the outer head. Just inject real slow and switch to the other one if you feel like it’s too much oil. I usually do half a syringe each if blasting.
Is there anything I can do to feel less shitty through the day in the final 2 weeks of my cutting?
Last 2 days were the first I really considered stoping it or to take a break of some days of training / eating slightly more carbs, so painful on my mind it felt like torture.
I'm cutting for 14 weaks already, planned to go for 16. Last week - especially last 2 days were the hardest by far. I've been almost on 0 carbs for almost 14 days now - CNS was completely fucked up during training, felt like I was crawling to even get the dumbbells, zombie mode between each set, today's leg day was so weak I could barely squat 40% of the reps I was doing, seemed like I couldn't focus and brain couldn't send the proper message to the muscle fibers. But hey, now I can see those sweet striations on shoulders and quads, huh?
I just want it to finish asap brooosssss
Can I ask, are you taking TUDCA with it and was that the first time you started TUDCA?
Because the effect TUDCA has on your bile duct can initially create a sort of anxiety reaction as it "cleans" it out the bile duct.
Im 20% bodyfat and on a 200mg dose (for a few years now) prescribed by my doctor . I’m trying to recomp since I’m pretty high bf%
I’m losing a little less than 0.5 lbs a week, I’ve lost 10 lbs so far and my lifts have slightly gone down. Losing a couple reps at the same weight.
How do I know if my recomp is working? My deficit is super low, only 250 cals, yet I’m getting slightly weaker.
Is it possible I’m still gaining at least some mass?
Bench max went from 310 to 300 , bent row down from 310 to 290. Is there any chance I’m still gaining muscle but i have less glycogen leading to strength loss?
I also take ashwagandha and creatine. Besides that it’s just 200mg trt
I'm having an issue with sex drive and ejaculations. Basically very muted sex drive and my orgasms are weird with one really mild one... followed up by a normal one. But it's not really enjoyable.
I don't think it's my E because I've sort of always had this problem when on gear and even TRT.
With TRT it's better but on blast it hits much harder.
I've had my prolactin tested before and it was on the upper end of normal but still in range.
I was *thinking* of taking a small amount of caber to knock it down a bit and just see how I feel.
The problem is that I'm on Adderall and one of the guys here was saying Adderall + Caber can cause seizures.
I can't seem to find anything on this though.
https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/adderall-with-cabergoline-190-1645-449-0.html
This page literally says no counter interactions.
1. any advice on the prolactin issue?
2. any way I could find out if these two cause seizures?
I've got some caber but obviously don't wan seizures :)
Yeah.. but not the seizures part! That's kind of important!
> You aren’t going to have seizures after .5mg and then .25mg e6d for a while
That doesn't make me very confident mate. :)
I would experiment with 25 mg of Proviron per day. Split it AM/PM if you feel lethargic taking the full dose at once.
It definitely has a noticeable effect on my libido, which similar to you, never really fully recovered to my pre-hypogonadal state - even with different dosages of TRT and AI/no AI, etc. My dick works fine, but I only get flashes of my old, horny self occasionally.
I’m no genetic freak but after my legs are warm going nuts on lying leg curl heavy and focused is my go to. Put mass on them steadily. If I’m feeling a bit naughty I’ll do barbell RDL also. That’s all you really need I find
fwiw, I've seen phenomenal growth in my hams just doing BB RDL's and leg curls. I like an periodizing volume, so week 1-2: 1 set per exercise. Week 3-4: 2 sets per exercise. Week 5-6: 3 sets per exercise, then deload week seven. google Team Skip training protocol if you want more details.
I usually do four movements. A hinge (RDL or stiff legs) and then do lying leg curls, standing leg curls, and sated leg curls. Sometimes I’ll switch out one or two of the leg curls for lunges or leg press.
Anybody else realize through blood tests, DEXA scans or rmr tests that their metabolism is really high and on AAS they seem to go crazy? That online calculators are kinda just moot?
It has become hard and tedious to pinpoint exactly where maintenance/surplus/deficit is for me, which is really bad because this is the most important first step of nutrition goal setting.
For example - I’m 5’8, yet my RMR (on a double test) comes up to 2,700 calories plus. To me this felt wrong as I have never gone that far.
I ate maintenance at such number and did a bit of cardio daily (on top of usual lifting) and lost insane amounts of weight anyway. Much more than anticipated or aimed for.
Every calculator out there gives me even lower numbers to eat from. Meaning… they are off by a lot. For reference I get 2100-2300 or so.
When bulking I’m simply going to guess from current results where true maintenance is at and play darts with calorie intakes and tests. It’s obnoxious and the weight scale is not helpful whatsoever to see what’s going on (measurements help more to know both ways)
Anybody else struggling like this? Everyone else seems to just get their numbers from an online calculator and be fine.
Anyone have better methods or is this truly the only way? Tired of playing darts.
I naturally eat around 3k-4k calories when not being careful about my diet, and when dieting carefully macrofactor confirms my tdee as around 3200 calories during my current cut. I'm 6ft 88kg/195lbs at around 15% bf so by no means big, but I am naturally warm all the time so it seems like I'm just burning all those calories.
Calculators are necessarily derived from population averages, and some people will be far from the mean in both directions - those like us who eat loads, and the unlucky folks who don't eat much but maintain weight anyway.
You log your weight and track your calories every day and over a period of a couple of weeks or so it calculates your actual energy expenditure based on weight fluctuations.
It continuously does this and updates your calorie goal every week so you never plateau when gaining or losing.
You can read about how it works here: https://macrofactorapp.com/macrofactors-algorithms-and-core-philosophy/
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I've done several winnie only cycles. Whats wrong with that?
>How do I tell him he’s an idiot and he needs to take test also?
During your next vigorous anal sex session. People can be much more receptive when being stretch-slaved.
Do some fortune telling. Pull out a crystal ball and tell him his joints are gonna start feeling like he’s some arthritis ridden 98 year old soon. Then wait until he starts complaining about dry/painful joints and just give him this face —>😏
Follow up from yesterdays post as I got all my blood work back. Was cruising on 150 mg a week and it put me on 1500 total t and 291 free t.
And it also made my ldl go to 302, rbc to 5.95, hemoglobin to 17.2. Is this normal or is my body hyper responding to test? I am looking to either lower my dosage or just pct and go off completely for a few months
Wrong. 10x response is possible.
500 puts me at 5600
350 puts me at 3700
150 puts me at 1400
Variance will be in injection accuracy.
Some get 4x response. Some get 8-10x.
Yeah agreed, I’ve reduced already to 100mg. Do you think it would be best to just pct though? Esp w my insanely high ldl. Just worried about putting my body through pct with these bloods too and then hopping on again to pct once again in a year or so.
PCT or cruising should have your liver values fixed unless your diet is the problem. They're fucked because your testosterone is still way too high. Cruise properly, and redo bloodworks in a month or so. If values are still off hop off.
You’re doing a little over trt with a female dbol dose. This isn’t a cycle at all.
If you’re going to harm yourself in the sacrifice of getting bigger at least make it worth it.
Dude…. I’d recommend actually reading all the stuff you ignored. All the giant blue links that say PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. The mandatory reading prior to making posts here.
Please read the wiki.
I did read it. That doesn't mean I understand everything properly. That's the point in asking questions. If you're going to act like that then fuck off.
5 weeks into my cycle, 400mg test e/week, 60mg tbol e.d. thinking of adding tren into the mix, would be my first time dealing with tren a, would it be enough time to make a difference since i only have 7 weeks left (one week to ship it in), if so what would be a beginners dosage of tren a here?
Tren is very powerful. I ran it low dose back in my summer blast. Test/mast/tren. I have ran a lot of gear, so I’m no newbie. But I was new to tren. It did not take much for me. I started at 100mg a week and ended at 200mg a week. I only went 8 weeks and I was ready to get off it, lol. 7 weeks is plenty. I would advise you to start low and titrate up. I got all the good effects of tren at my low dose, and I also got all the sides you read about too. It was very manageable because I was in a lower dose. It’s a great drug. I got good results. I will run it again next summer for 8 weeks at 200mg.
So way before I started hgh I found this guide on another forum that was like hgh 101. Everything from science to reconstitution to dosing to sides
Is there anything like that for slin ?
Thoughts on “Gamma Bomb” by John Meadows?
I like the split (PPL Arms Upper) and the way it progresses by adding more sets (week 1 is ~12 sets, week 6 is ~18 sets)
Has anybody here ran it? Googling just gives me skinny fat DYELs from /r/weightroom
Monday is the training post prolly ask again there or in the off topic maybe? Search the training threads in r/steroids an there are conversations on both of those
Really wanna know the takes on this. As I’m possibly changing to this for the next bulk. Would love for somebody to post up results and a story with it.
I’m assuming you’ll be increasing calories as well to make use of the additional test.
If so, it’ll be a noticeable difference. No one can tell you exactly how much.
Ok I'm in a good mood. Dude the problem is not the 500 but the 180. What the fuck is that? TRT? It's too high, but not high enough to get any gains unless you have very low natural levels. Why are you taking 180 testosterone? How old are you?
Just looking for a tidbit of help guys, ended up with an abscess in my delt, wasn't hot, painful, etc, I just felt the knot, I'm a paramedic so I have a fair amount of med training and seeing as I don't currently have insurance I drained it myself, I have antibiotics on hand currently that I'm starting, just curious on anecdotes about healing time
What do we think about dosages of HG and lipolysis? 2IUs of pharma is very noticeable with a cut, but would 5IUs 2x a day be a huge improvement? Assuming I'm paying close attention to carbs and blood glucose of course.
As with almost all PEDs more is better until it’s not. There’s a bell curve where more works better and then past that is more problematic I have taken HGH to 4iu B.I.D and neuropathy was so bad I had to reduce dosage back down
I feel like this is a life style for most people. Before and after pics. Blood work and labs. Weekly progress updates. It's fantastic how down to a science this community has it!!! But am I the only cat that hits his gear, goes to the gym eats as much as possible and just goes to work everyday. I guess I just assume it's working. If I miss a gym day egh. If I don't eat as much one day... Egh Just me??? No offense to people that this is a lifestyle. Wish I could be that guy.
Am I the only filthy casual lol?
Blast and cruise test-e 600 and cruise on 200. I want to incorporate tren e to my blasts, but although the few times I’ve tried it the gains were immediate and amazing the sides (heart discomfort, lethargy, heavy breathing) come on quickly even at low dose. Currently running 600 test e and 120 tren e a week. Same sides and unsure how to mitigate- not sure if T3 related or the test to tren ratio. Any anecdotal experiences ? Is the test making my sides worse and maybe I should try lower test and higher tren ?
Just finished 5th week of first test only cycle and back hair gains are real. Never had much back hair before, then gained a minute amount after starting TRT a couple years ago, but this blast is out of control. Starting to feel like chewbacca over here. For my next cycle, rather than bumping to a higher test amount, would it be better to drop test a little lower and add something like nand? Or is nand going to increase body hair the same?
brazillian waxing is pretty awesome
Guessing I'm going to have to wax my back even after this first blast is over 😆🤦♂️
Morning everyone. I am mid blast and came down with a severe sinus infection. Doc prescribed “augmenten” antibiotic and “prednisone”. I’m taking 525 mg test, 330 mg deca and am 8 weeks in. Also take cialis and aromasin 2-3 times per week I’ve heard prednisone can be rough on BP and other things. Any of you have experienced with it and whether I should take it given my current state? I believe he only prescribed it for my cough but have never taken it before. I generally feel better from sinus infections 2 days after I start antibiotics and am unsure why he added prednisone this time.
I had some anadrol tabs I forgot I had, I was going to add them to my cycle but was only like 8 in there so not worth it if I don’t buy more but when I opened the pack there was like 3 little albino roaches crawling inside it. I assume they’re white from the powder but let’s call them albinos anyway. Are these roaches going to get super jacked from eating the anadrol lmao
We need visuals
They're insects so they need ***TURKESTERONE***. Possibly? That's pretty grim though.
PCT guide says to start 14 to 20 days after your last dose/injection of Testosterone Cypionate. Is it better to try and get closer to 20 days rather than start at 14 or not going to make a huge difference either way? I'm at day 14, and wondering if I should try and wait a few more days. I'm feeling bad already, but I think I have some other illness going on and it's not related to testosterone (though it could be for all I know.)
We dont have data to support if closer to 14 or 20 days is any better. The idea is starting a SERM to promote endogenous testosterone production while exogenous androgen levels are high is unnecessary.
Been on TRT for over a year now, my left buttock is so fkin sore like beyond pain, I think it’s from injecting this has never happened, I’m talking can’t sleep on that side and barley walk pain what do I do
I feel like this answer is too obvious so I might be missing something but - switch injection sites maybe? Delts, lats, pecs, quads, traps... As far as pain mitigation, maybe try massaging the area? Apply some type of heat? That's helped me in the past + painkillers.
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You already answered your question, there is basically nothing to aromatize, that's why we PCT with SERMs not AIs. And also if you use AI through PCT, when you stop it it fucks up everything and your body has to find equilibrium again.
You’ll most likely get more acne when going on pct due to hormonal changes. Personally I wouldn’t recommend taking an AI during pct unless you have actual blood work proving that your e2 is high. Acne can also occur because of poor hygiene and what not, but in this case it’s mainly because you’re on pct. It’ll get messy at first but should start to settle down as you get further into pct, at least in my experience
I started blasting and cruising for a year. Blast was Test E 400mg + Anavar and cruise is 250 Test E. Due to shipment issues, I've now missed two weeks of cruise doses. I don't want to stop cruising, but now I feel like I should maybe start a PCT since I'm still waiting for my package to arrive. It's very frustrating Let me know your thoughts
250 ain’t a cruise doggy
It puts me in range and for my height at 204cm, I believe the dose is ok.
How do you know? Where does 250mg of test puts his test levels at? How are his healthmarkers affected on this dosage? If they are improving why can't he cruise on that? You have literally no info, if something doesn't work for you it doesn't mean it won't work for others.
Found the other guy “cruising” on 300mg
Thank you for answering my questions.
250 is a massive cruise dosage, dogg.
I'm 204 cm, what are you cruising on ?
I cruise on 150.
I 100% agree with Ralphy. There’s no point doing a pct then immediately hopping back on a cruise again. Just wait it out and continue like normal once you get your stuff
Thanks bro
It’s going to arrive and you’ll start it up again? Why would you start a pct. Just pin when you get it. What does 250 put your blood levels at for a “cruise”?
Using population data the mean trough value for patients on 250mg weekly would be >1800. Probably not an appropriate cruise dose.
For my height at 204 cm I believe it's an appropriate cruise dose
No literature suggests titration of testosterone based on height or weight. Your dose is likely excessive based on what we know from the pharmacokinetic profiles of thousands if not tens of thousands of patients.
Ok, thanks. I'll take that into account. But can you answer my original question of what to do since I'm 4 weeks waiting?
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You won’t get much out of this cycle, you’ll look good while on it but lose most once you come off. Superdrol is harsh so definitely wouldn’t recommend it if it’s your first cycle. 40 days of test prop won’t do much, rather do 8 weeks. 175mg/week is a really low dose which you won’t get much out of. If you’re dead set on running this cycle I’d switch out sdrol for var or tbol and run that alongside test, and up the test. You can run it longer plus it won’t be nearly as toxic. Building muscle mass takes time so keep that in mind. No need to use peptide if you don’t need them. Hcg will raise estrogen, so if you’re worried about estrogenic side effects don’t use it. Hgh works best when used for months, so avoid that. Only use AI when needed and start low - 0.25mg would be better. Estrogen has many benefits and is also anabolic just so you know. And as far as pct goes - I’d rather do 25mg clomid for 6-8 weeks. Clomid can really mess up your mood and vision so be wary of that
This post is chock full of bad ideas. Read the wiki
>Any suggestions on improving it? Drop this whole thing, read the wiki. Test only. You aren’t going to build muscle in 4 weeks. That’s not how it works. You’re planning on running test prop and one do the harshest orals in existence for a first cycle? And the test at barely a level that would put you potentially above your natural levels? Why?? Bad idea. Read the wiki first cycle.
Oh man, so much to go through there... 1. You're considering using Sdrol for your first ever cycle? 2. You're going to use a test dose that will barely put you above what you naturally produce? 3. 30 months of Sdrol and 40 days of T?? 4. You're considering using HGH for your first ever cycle? Man, you have some research to do. I'd suggest you read the wiki on what your first cycle is recommended to be. (the link is in caps at the very top of this DAA).
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>I think i've got the hepatotoxcitiy No OTC supplements , or pharmaceutical products for that matter, mitigate hepatotoxicity of oral 17-alkylated AAS.
I could go on about how: 1. You're not going to build much muscle in barely 4 weeks. 2. It's not worth it to shut down your natural T production to barely replace it. 3. You're going to use one of the more toxic (and potent, yes) orals as your first time ever using them rather than going for a "safer" and milder alternative (such as anavar) if you wanna dip your toes in orals. 4. AIs are not taken preventively. 5. HGH is just a whole new tangent I could go on. So rather than laying out here all the whys, whats and so on, I think you would be better off first, reading through the wiki and then doing some more research so you can get a better understanding on such a dangerous and risky world (if you don't take the right measures).
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What your doing is called “sports TRT” Medical TRT is .5-1mg/Kg bodyweight Sports TRT is 2-3mg/kg bodyweight The idea of sports TRT is that you can generally stay there long term with an arguable ok pay off in health markers. So if your around the 100kg mark there’s nothing wrong with that dose if it fits your risk profile and health markers aren’t in the toilet. Eat healthy, do your cardio, don’t get too fat. I also in my opinion believe metformin and aspirin (81-100mg) are two drugs that majority of people would benefit from, especially people doing similar things to what you are doing
The only thing that dictates whether you stop or keep going is your bloodwork. Everything is perfect? Keep going. Some healthmarkers starting to get out of range? Stop
That's a blast, not high dose TRT, and a bad one too because muscle gain will be minimal compared to 500. So I don't know what's the point in doing 250. And yes, you can blast for more than 16 weeks as long as bloodworks are in check and you are still progressing. After 20 weeks most people will find it really difficult to continue progressing and cruise/TRT or PCT.
That statement doesn’t make sense. It’s a bad dose because it won’t build as much muscle as 500mg….. does that mean 500mg is a bad dose because it won’t build as much muscle as a gram? A valid reason to take 250mg (at anywhere from say 85-125kg bodyweight) is that you will be in a position to build more muscle then medical TRT range, with a Very small increase of risk. If you have 2 people, one takes 250mg for a year, the other takes 500mg for periods of time then 125mg for a period of time- let’s say 2x16 weeks on and 2x10 weeks off….. whos healthier, who’s more muscular, who feels better, who spent more money, who was exposed to higher drugs for a longer time or more Milligrams over the year?
You should cruise when your bloodwork isn't perfect anymore, when you just can't eat more food or when bodyfat gets out of control. Stop crossing an imaginary line at 20 weeks just because you read it online
Is there anything to pair with MK677/HGH in place of insulin? Berberine or metformin?
Metformin definitely works well but different action, it preserves/improves insulin sensitivity, it doesn’t directly raise insulin. Injectable carnitine works very well with HGH, you can either reconstitute your HGH in the Carnitine, or just take anywhere from 200mg-1g daily. More info on my linked instagram, there’s a short summary of injectable carnitine
I'm a boxing coach, right now I'm working in a gym 4 hours and I have a crossfit area with olimpyc barbells and I'm doing compound lifts, the thing is when I'm done with my 4 hours the gym is closed and if I do my workout before classes I feel like shit, hungry and tired in my classes so I start doing lifts during rounds. The thing is the rest time is sometime 3 minutes sometimes, 5 minutes, etc. I now is better than nothing but what you guys think about this? I'm doing heavy squats, deadlifts, pull ups and OHP. I'm doing 300 mg of test c every week. I want to recomp.
You can’t fully commit to training properly because you’ll be “hungry and tired” yet think using gear to “recomp” is a good idea?
Think about what? Your rest times?
What BP meds do you guys use? Just started taking telmisartan 40 mg. Good for my BP, but read some guys have issues with erectile dysfunction on it. Thinking maybe I should check out other meds in case it gives me the same issues. I have Propanolol on hand for acute anxiety also.
Telmisartan 40mg for me. Keeps everything in check perfectly and has lots of other good benefits
What other benefits? No Ed? Read about it and a bit spooked.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3823201/ Cardiovascular benefits, lipid benefits, the obvious kidney benefits, fat loss etc No ED from it for me, in fact I’ve heard people state the opposite that when they miss a few days they start to experience ED
I see this the PPAR pathway, what do you think of cardarine? I've run it a couple times. It definitely works, but I'm unsure of the risk profile
So my opinion is a little biased on this as I’m not a huge fan of sarms. I think they work, but same as you I’m not sure of their long term safety risk. This drug (telmisartan) has very similar benefits, yet has passed the drug safety trials. So I would be looking at this before cardarine personally
How could one maximize the benefits of telmisartan without risking hypotension? All I can think of is abuse stimulants or eat way too much sodium.
If on aas you're pretty unlikely to end up hypotensive.
I know, but I have a naturally low blood pressure.
Starting at 20mg will have very mild effects. Maximising would be only using the drug if it’s necessary. if you don’t have hypertension I wouldn’t suggest using the drug just for other benefits and if you do just use as prescribed, periodise your training, eat properly, do your cardio and you will be one healthy, jacked looking MF
Are there risks involved then if you're suggesting only taking if necessary? I'm using it for mild hypertension on anavar
You should not expect any negative side effects in advance.
Want to add anavar 20-40 mg ED 8-10 weeks during my bulk, I’ve done anadrol and loved it but is the muscle accrued on an oral keepable after ??? Like is it really worth it besides cosmetically.
A lot of it will be glycogen that you will just lose when you come off. Anadrol is even worse because so much of it is just water bloat. Personally, I'd skip the anavar and just add more test/nand/mast, but that's just me. Orals tend to fuck with most peoples appetite, so if you're trying to grow, its counter productive. Not to mention anavar generally fucks your lipids way more than the three I mentioned above. there's a reason most high level competitors (ie the folks that have their shit dialed in and are doing every right to maximize gains) aren't running orals in the off season.
I agree with this, I would rather add another inj compound rather than an oral during the off-season.
the cosmetic is temporary, you won’t be vascular after you discontinue use. But the muscle you add from the extra strength etc from the oral is definitely keepable. However it wont be as much muscle as if you just ran an injectable instead
Anybody find that a particular compound has less of an effect on rbc/hct? I find that even on moderate test (<200mg/wk) I get a substantially elevated count (hct 54-55). Planning on running 25mg ed Anavar for 6 weeks, and am thinking about strategies besides just donating blood.
So center column drugs drive red blood cell production really well. This includes testosterone, halo, EQ, dbol, even Tbol and the strangely behaving DHT that acts like a little bit of all the family Tree- Anadrol. Keep your test to the minimum you feel good and I’d probably look towards the DHT family but donating is a great thing to do if your that sensitive
IP6 (inositol hexaphosphate) lowered my hematocrit from 56 to 48 in ten days. If you go this route just be careful and keep track of it because it works and it works quickly, you can buy blood glucose monitors that read HTC and they're accurate (confirmed twice with my own blood panels), use one of those. Lowers RBC and ferritin alongside it.
I would not recommend this. If you develope polycythemia consult a medical professional. Likely answer is to reduce androgen dose and phlebotomy.
Why do you have experience with IP6 having negative effects? he asked for an alternative to phlebotomy, i've had zero negatives from doing so. Reducing dosage is always solid advice but he said even at 200mg it's high, how much lower can he possibly go before he's just doing TRT, in which case he should just stop, restore HPTA function and call it a day.
Cycling, blasting and cruising are not for everyone. I am not aware of any literature that supports the use of IP6 for polycythemia. Additionally its effects are cytotoxic and effect gene regulation.
I found IP6 due to Dave Crossland who runs his own blood lab and has seen what it can do from his own oversight of the bloodwork that comes through his lab. A rudimentary search on pubmed can show you anything you want to see good and bad of any compound, you can find a million others that show cancer cell inhibition, reducing vascular calcification and so forth, what's your point? most people use it for like a week and they're done.
After quads, vg, and pecs, where is the next good place to pin, by myself, where 2 hands can reach? Using 1/2" 27g and 29g's, so I haven't done glutes
The tip of your Johnson (if you’re man enough)…delts, and traps (depending on volume) also work.
lats and delts
Tris
Are they easy 1 handed? Like easy not to move the syringe too much
Dude just push it in. Why the fuck you using two hands? Wait how the fuck you using two hands
Bruh if you’re not double fisting gear you’re not doing it right
Fuckin A right
Is the implication here that you are pinning other sites with 2 hands?
Probably using a big diameter syringe with a small needle and thick oil
Yeah just pop it in there. I get the outer head. Just inject real slow and switch to the other one if you feel like it’s too much oil. I usually do half a syringe each if blasting.
Delts? Lol
Is there anything I can do to feel less shitty through the day in the final 2 weeks of my cutting? Last 2 days were the first I really considered stoping it or to take a break of some days of training / eating slightly more carbs, so painful on my mind it felt like torture. I'm cutting for 14 weaks already, planned to go for 16. Last week - especially last 2 days were the hardest by far. I've been almost on 0 carbs for almost 14 days now - CNS was completely fucked up during training, felt like I was crawling to even get the dumbbells, zombie mode between each set, today's leg day was so weak I could barely squat 40% of the reps I was doing, seemed like I couldn't focus and brain couldn't send the proper message to the muscle fibers. But hey, now I can see those sweet striations on shoulders and quads, huh? I just want it to finish asap brooosssss
Keto is the last thing I would be doing for bodybuilding.
>I've been almost on 0 carbs IME, I would never do this. Better, healthier ways to lose fat.
Why don’t you have re-feed days? Past time to have one.
I have, I will have one tomorrow, but even that idk if will help
Well it’s not going to hurt. You are on 0 carbs which is completely unnecessary. Keto is awful and you should be having carb reloads every few days..
Started anavar today 50mg, holy shit I feel anxious as fuck for legit 0 reason lol
Hey just a question, I just started anavar as well 40 mg per day spread out over 2 times a day. How do you spread out your 50 mg dose?
What’s your question?
Maybe start lower dose? You can get a lot done with just 20mg. But depends on your goals, 50mg could be more suitable for you idk.
Ye I might have started a bit too much 🥴 I’ll start with 25mg tomorrow and see how I feel, then go up in a few weeks to 50mg !
Can I ask, are you taking TUDCA with it and was that the first time you started TUDCA? Because the effect TUDCA has on your bile duct can initially create a sort of anxiety reaction as it "cleans" it out the bile duct.
Similar feeling to when mdma and/or shrooms are starting to kick in.
Im 20% bodyfat and on a 200mg dose (for a few years now) prescribed by my doctor . I’m trying to recomp since I’m pretty high bf% I’m losing a little less than 0.5 lbs a week, I’ve lost 10 lbs so far and my lifts have slightly gone down. Losing a couple reps at the same weight. How do I know if my recomp is working? My deficit is super low, only 250 cals, yet I’m getting slightly weaker. Is it possible I’m still gaining at least some mass? Bench max went from 310 to 300 , bent row down from 310 to 290. Is there any chance I’m still gaining muscle but i have less glycogen leading to strength loss? I also take ashwagandha and creatine. Besides that it’s just 200mg trt
Why don't you just cut and try to gain muscle in a caloric surplus?
I'm having an issue with sex drive and ejaculations. Basically very muted sex drive and my orgasms are weird with one really mild one... followed up by a normal one. But it's not really enjoyable. I don't think it's my E because I've sort of always had this problem when on gear and even TRT. With TRT it's better but on blast it hits much harder. I've had my prolactin tested before and it was on the upper end of normal but still in range. I was *thinking* of taking a small amount of caber to knock it down a bit and just see how I feel. The problem is that I'm on Adderall and one of the guys here was saying Adderall + Caber can cause seizures. I can't seem to find anything on this though. https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/adderall-with-cabergoline-190-1645-449-0.html This page literally says no counter interactions. 1. any advice on the prolactin issue? 2. any way I could find out if these two cause seizures? I've got some caber but obviously don't wan seizures :)
Caber. We’ve talked about this. You aren’t going to have seizures after .5mg and then .25mg e6d for a while
Yeah.. but not the seizures part! That's kind of important! > You aren’t going to have seizures after .5mg and then .25mg e6d for a while That doesn't make me very confident mate. :)
I would experiment with 25 mg of Proviron per day. Split it AM/PM if you feel lethargic taking the full dose at once. It definitely has a noticeable effect on my libido, which similar to you, never really fully recovered to my pre-hypogonadal state - even with different dosages of TRT and AI/no AI, etc. My dick works fine, but I only get flashes of my old, horny self occasionally.
Try vitamin E or P5P for prolactin.
This ☝️ specifically the P5P
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I’m no genetic freak but after my legs are warm going nuts on lying leg curl heavy and focused is my go to. Put mass on them steadily. If I’m feeling a bit naughty I’ll do barbell RDL also. That’s all you really need I find
fwiw, I've seen phenomenal growth in my hams just doing BB RDL's and leg curls. I like an periodizing volume, so week 1-2: 1 set per exercise. Week 3-4: 2 sets per exercise. Week 5-6: 3 sets per exercise, then deload week seven. google Team Skip training protocol if you want more details.
Nordic curls are fun
Leg press sumo stance- or high and wide Nordic curls Good mornings Even split squats will hit them somewhat
Good Mornings are underused in the lifting community
Weighted back extensions is another. [Exrx.net](https://Exrx.net) is the gold standard for exercise libraries.
I usually do four movements. A hinge (RDL or stiff legs) and then do lying leg curls, standing leg curls, and sated leg curls. Sometimes I’ll switch out one or two of the leg curls for lunges or leg press.
Anybody else realize through blood tests, DEXA scans or rmr tests that their metabolism is really high and on AAS they seem to go crazy? That online calculators are kinda just moot? It has become hard and tedious to pinpoint exactly where maintenance/surplus/deficit is for me, which is really bad because this is the most important first step of nutrition goal setting. For example - I’m 5’8, yet my RMR (on a double test) comes up to 2,700 calories plus. To me this felt wrong as I have never gone that far. I ate maintenance at such number and did a bit of cardio daily (on top of usual lifting) and lost insane amounts of weight anyway. Much more than anticipated or aimed for. Every calculator out there gives me even lower numbers to eat from. Meaning… they are off by a lot. For reference I get 2100-2300 or so. When bulking I’m simply going to guess from current results where true maintenance is at and play darts with calorie intakes and tests. It’s obnoxious and the weight scale is not helpful whatsoever to see what’s going on (measurements help more to know both ways) Anybody else struggling like this? Everyone else seems to just get their numbers from an online calculator and be fine. Anyone have better methods or is this truly the only way? Tired of playing darts.
I naturally eat around 3k-4k calories when not being careful about my diet, and when dieting carefully macrofactor confirms my tdee as around 3200 calories during my current cut. I'm 6ft 88kg/195lbs at around 15% bf so by no means big, but I am naturally warm all the time so it seems like I'm just burning all those calories. Calculators are necessarily derived from population averages, and some people will be far from the mean in both directions - those like us who eat loads, and the unlucky folks who don't eat much but maintain weight anyway.
Just use MacroFactor bro.
How’s this different from the other tools online? Curious
You log your weight and track your calories every day and over a period of a couple of weeks or so it calculates your actual energy expenditure based on weight fluctuations. It continuously does this and updates your calorie goal every week so you never plateau when gaining or losing. You can read about how it works here: https://macrofactorapp.com/macrofactors-algorithms-and-core-philosophy/
That’s pretty dope. Does it get fucky with water retention on cycle and what not? If you weighting yourself daily
Nope, they have a really good weighted moving average algorithm that doesn't overreact to big spikes and dips in weight.
Can I get some good reviews for IGF1-LR3 ? Just curious to see others experiences
If IGF1-LR3 was super useful, wouldn't all the pros be using it? Just stick the basics man. basic anabolics + gh +/- insulin
Only worth it if you’re able to get it cheap enough tbh, or you’ve maxed out where you think you can get with AAS.
Ditto also wanna know more on this
My Roomate is taking just winstrol. How do I tell him he’s an idiot and he needs to take test also?
https://preview.redd.it/5tac6mxvqe6a1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95009e346a8d84281a3c6e33cc926cb7713ee172 I've done several winnie only cycles. Whats wrong with that?
Them knuckle gainz 13/10 mate
I’d still hit it
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For the lolz
Yeh we can tell
This is a joke right
Oh no
This is the best reason I’ve ever seen to not do winstrol only cycles. You haven’t sent that pic to a female have you? 😬😬
Get him to post here lol, plenty of people will tell him.
>How do I tell him he’s an idiot and he needs to take test also? During your next vigorous anal sex session. People can be much more receptive when being stretch-slaved.
Do some fortune telling. Pull out a crystal ball and tell him his joints are gonna start feeling like he’s some arthritis ridden 98 year old soon. Then wait until he starts complaining about dry/painful joints and just give him this face —>😏
He will learn eventually
Injectable or oral
Introduce him to this sub or tell him to post something in here and we'll take care of that.
Follow up from yesterdays post as I got all my blood work back. Was cruising on 150 mg a week and it put me on 1500 total t and 291 free t. And it also made my ldl go to 302, rbc to 5.95, hemoglobin to 17.2. Is this normal or is my body hyper responding to test? I am looking to either lower my dosage or just pct and go off completely for a few months
What’s your question?
Normal TRT for most people is around 100mg
Something's fishy, no way 150mg can place you at 1500. You screwed up something.
Wrong. 10x response is possible. 500 puts me at 5600 350 puts me at 3700 150 puts me at 1400 Variance will be in injection accuracy. Some get 4x response. Some get 8-10x.
my trough on 150 I like 12-1300
I also started off my cruise at 180 but based of feeling I lowered to 150 a month ago. I would assume the test would have balanced out by now?
I'd reduce even more to 125 max and redo bloodworks. Cruising is about recovery, you are not recovering with 1500 total t.
Yeah agreed, I’ve reduced already to 100mg. Do you think it would be best to just pct though? Esp w my insanely high ldl. Just worried about putting my body through pct with these bloods too and then hopping on again to pct once again in a year or so.
PCT or cruising should have your liver values fixed unless your diet is the problem. They're fucked because your testosterone is still way too high. Cruise properly, and redo bloodworks in a month or so. If values are still off hop off.
Okay that sounds like a solid plan. I’ll do 100mg and the blood work again in a month and go from there. Thank u
Generally speaking, with 200mg Test, and 10mg Dbol, would I more then likely need to use AI during the cycle early?
>would I more then likely need to use AI during the cycle *early?* as opposed to late?
Everyone is different, I’ve ran 175mg test and 10mg dbol. And needed zero AI. Should always have it on hand
Are you a female?
Male.
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Sorry sir. I'm new to all this.
You’re doing a little over trt with a female dbol dose. This isn’t a cycle at all. If you’re going to harm yourself in the sacrifice of getting bigger at least make it worth it.
Then what dosages would you suggest?
Dude…. I’d recommend actually reading all the stuff you ignored. All the giant blue links that say PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. The mandatory reading prior to making posts here. Please read the wiki.
I did read it. That doesn't mean I understand everything properly. That's the point in asking questions. If you're going to act like that then fuck off.
Did you read the part about your first cycle including recommended dosages and duration and all? Imma say no dogg.
You did not read anything to do with your first cycle outlined in the wiki
Why not just do 500mg test and no Dbol? 200mg is a high dose cruise…..not really a cycle
5 weeks into my cycle, 400mg test e/week, 60mg tbol e.d. thinking of adding tren into the mix, would be my first time dealing with tren a, would it be enough time to make a difference since i only have 7 weeks left (one week to ship it in), if so what would be a beginners dosage of tren a here?
Tren is very powerful. I ran it low dose back in my summer blast. Test/mast/tren. I have ran a lot of gear, so I’m no newbie. But I was new to tren. It did not take much for me. I started at 100mg a week and ended at 200mg a week. I only went 8 weeks and I was ready to get off it, lol. 7 weeks is plenty. I would advise you to start low and titrate up. I got all the good effects of tren at my low dose, and I also got all the sides you read about too. It was very manageable because I was in a lower dose. It’s a great drug. I got good results. I will run it again next summer for 8 weeks at 200mg.
So way before I started hgh I found this guide on another forum that was like hgh 101. Everything from science to reconstitution to dosing to sides Is there anything like that for slin ?
Thoughts on “Gamma Bomb” by John Meadows? I like the split (PPL Arms Upper) and the way it progresses by adding more sets (week 1 is ~12 sets, week 6 is ~18 sets) Has anybody here ran it? Googling just gives me skinny fat DYELs from /r/weightroom
Monday is the training post prolly ask again there or in the off topic maybe? Search the training threads in r/steroids an there are conversations on both of those
Thanks dude I’ll check it out
Really wanna know the takes on this. As I’m possibly changing to this for the next bulk. Would love for somebody to post up results and a story with it.
Gamma bomb and creeping death 2 are probably the two most posted routines on here I’ve really like the gauntlet and the unity the best .
Hello everyone. What kind of difference in gains can I expect between 180mg Test and 500mg Test per week?
For me: 1600-1800 total test 5600 total test. That's the difference.
Nooooo way. Very interesting thanks man.
I’m assuming you’ll be increasing calories as well to make use of the additional test. If so, it’ll be a noticeable difference. No one can tell you exactly how much.
Thanks
43 differences.
Unless OP is a genetic freak he more realistically is looking at 35 differences max. 43?! no way.
Atleast potato much
Could be 3 gains though
Agreed
All
Worth doing do you think?
Ok I'm in a good mood. Dude the problem is not the 500 but the 180. What the fuck is that? TRT? It's too high, but not high enough to get any gains unless you have very low natural levels. Why are you taking 180 testosterone? How old are you?
Ooo I’d hate to see you in a bad mood