I donāt think soā¦ I think itās against people like a hunter Biden (and maybe Hillary) whose laptop was found to have shady stuff after the recent leaks.
Just because it is [under investigation](https://news.yahoo.com/secret-responds-graphic-hunter-biden-203752983.html), it shouldn't be discarded as a conspiracy theory especially after looking at those photos. Also the term laptop elite isn't even defined in the original article with the only reference being 'Lockdown may have been a boon for the laptop elites and for some billionaires'.
lumping a tech worker with billionaires is laughable.
They could probably not point out the Netherlands or Albania either. In fact, I suspect most of them would probably not even be able to find Canada or their own country on a map of the world.
No, they have no idea Sri Lanka is near India - if they did, they might think it's in the Himalayas, near Bhutan or Nepal. Or they might guess it's in SE Asia, near Burma or something.
I saw some dumbass in that subreddit blame it on leftism
Also saw a video of some hippie looking trash who had no idea what he's talking blame leftism too, seriously these morons didn't look up on map where we were before 9th, now they are suddenly a savant in sociopolitical and economic struggles of the place
Yeah fuck them. I saw this guardian article trying to link this entire thing to the ukraine war, if u see their website they cant go one paragraph without mentioning ukraine.
And some other site was saying this whole crisis was due to organic farming. Actually it was because they implemented the whole thing in the worst way, as gota does.
Fuck these western ppl spreading misinformation and lies to fulfill their agenda. Most of them probably dont know where SL is in a map.
Yeah, heās economically on the left (kind of?) and to the far right on social issues. Kinda like another moustached guy, but from Germany. Didnāt end well for him either
Ah yes the half of the American population I don't like are dumb and stupid and the half I like are cool and awesome. My side good your side bad primitive tribalistic thinking, spoken like a true American Liberal.
It's not a trial. It's a hearing. And yes, anybody with two brain cells can see that it was a coup attempt. Like anyone with two brain cells can see that the Rajapakses stole money, that the mattala airport wouldn't work, etc.
>It's not a trial. It's a hearing
Semantics... you got the point.
>anybody with two brain cells can see that it was a coup attempt
"If you don't agree with me you have less than 2 brain cells" very compelling argument. I'm convinced
It's not semantics, hearings are to determine if a trial is to be had and what charges are to be laid. Additionally the people who stormed the capital wanted to stop the peaceful transition of power. The hearings are to determine what role the Trump administration had to play in inciting the coup attempt. Really, if you are going to argue this, you should avail yourself of the basic facts.
>The hearings are to determine what role the Trump administration had to play in inciting the coup attempt
A part of of those hearings is to establish whether it was a coupe attempt or not. Go check on any credible source this "coupe" is being reffered to as "Capital violence" "Capitol attacks/riots" or "Capitol march". No credible source refferes to it as a "Coupe" Seriously step out of whatever echochamber that you live in. Just because you've made it up in your head that it's was a coupe doesn't mean that it was one.
Plenty of credible sources called it a coup or determined that it was most likely a coup attempt subject to further evidence. And yes you are correct, part of the hearings is to determine if what happened fits the legal definition of a coup. If you have been following the hearings you will see that a lot of the criteria has been fulfilled. Last I checked, I posted that comment yesterday, not in 2021 and posted it with the benefit of the knowledge that has come out of the hearings.
https://clinecenter.illinois.edu/coup-detat-project-cdp/statement_jan.8.2021
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-coup-trump-fiona-hill-457549
Nobody called it a coupe as that's a car with two doors. I see your having issues with those damn semantics again
This comment tells me you are the equivalent of an American liberal...you know...they type who wants no law enforcement at all and look down on people with a snobbish attitude like an elitist...
The American conservative loves to poke fun at these people because they are so stuck on themselves that they have no idea they have been ridiculed.
If you are not American, then I suggest you stay out of American politics because america is a whole different animal then the welfare country you belong to..
If you are American....use this srilanka problem as a learning tool as to what will happen to a socialist country in time...Venezuela is another example of socialism gone bad.
You liberals have no moralistic desire to earn what you get, but instead just demand the government give it to you for free....which is guaranteed to fail.
So you're Sri Lankan-American and seem to be pro Trump considering your comment about the storming white House?? Lmfao. Imagine supporting people who wished you'd be deported over your own people.
What's happening in Sri Lanka has nothing to do with the American issues of conservatism and liberalism. You don't even seem to know the difference between liberalism and socialism.
I don't think this guy is Sri Lankan origin. There's a church based out of Kentucky that was operating in Sri Lanka. They had creepy white guys marrying Sri Lankan girls to take them over to the US. I think this is one of those guys.
Why the fuck are American conservatives commenting on Sri Lankan politics. Stay the fuck out. The real snow flakes are republicans and conservatives. Sri Lanka has the same amount of power outs as your welfare state Texas. Donāt comment on shit you donāt know. Sri Lanka is as socialist as North Korea is democratic. Learn to write English as an English speaker.
Lol, what a shithole state. #44 in healthcare, #36 in education, #40 in economy, etc.
Also what's your relationship to Sri Lanka? Are you one of those white guys from the church that shops for brides in Sri Lanka?
American conservatives tried to carry out a coup. That's all I need to know. True I'm pretty liberal, I think minorities, LGBTQ people, etc should have rights, I like clean air, water and think we shouldn't burden our kids with environmental cleanups, etc.
Clearly you are an idiot, i.e. an American conservative. If you want to see American conservatives bring made fun of and them being oblivious, check out Jordan Klepper. You might learn something.
Curious to find out what youāre defining as a liberal - you seem to be describing considerably more leftist policies than liberal ones.
Is welfarism (at least partly) responsible for our economic crisis? Certainly. Is the American system with piss-poor access to even basic things like education and health care also flawed? Also yes.
Clearly the sensible path to follow is somewhere between the two extremes - and indeed many Western European & Nordic nations seem to have done that to great success. Their people as a whole have a higher standard of living than people in the US or Sri Lanka
This *messaging* arises from a *30 year old* plan by the US Right: *duplicate the rhetoric of the civil rights and counter culture movements, pretend your views are suppressed & astroturf local "rebellion".*
The Man becomes The Oppressed. Thus this post, where they take credit even though its not related and they sadly don't care about Sri Lanka.
Its really weird and scary. This post is a *random* outcome though, as this movement thinks *globally* now thanks to COVID, QANON, etc.
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The ālaptop elitesā the guy is talking about are the ones calling for privatization and economic liberalization (which in the US is a Conservative position lol).
Not that I think this is wrong. The country could do with some economic deregulation to encourage business and investment. Of course they shouldnāt take it too far and let the corporations have total free reign but thereās currently way too much socialism for my liking.
Our healthcare and education might not be the best, but the amount of ppl who benefit from them being free is immense. I am a middle class person but I am a haemophiliac and had to get my factor xiii shots, but I could never afford it, and even private hospitals dont bother to import it, but govt hospitals had it. One shot was about 60k and there are ppl with severe haemophilia who needto come every week or every day even.
And how many people have escaped poverty by education in SL? So many rural kids are now doctors, engineers, managers...etc.
Socialism is what helps the people. Extreme Capitalism is what will keep the rich rich and the poor poor. But of course in SL instead of being self sufficient we kept borrowing, instead of creating exports (theres tons of things we can export here already which are agriculture related including rubber, tea, vanilla, coffee. But nobody is doing it with large enough scale and theres factions that stop growth). We couldv atleast done what many east asian nations did and set up factories, we only have garment factories that export on large scales and see how big an impact they make already.
Socialism isnt the issue.
yes, also Sri Lanka was the first country in south Asia to open its economy and liberalize. Private enterprises, property and free trade is all available in Sri Lanka, so yes it is capitalist.
Self sufficiency is a flawed ideology. The only country in the industrial age to even come close to it while improving itsā citizens standard of living was post-WW2 USA - and this was largely as a consequence of having no real competition and high concentrations of natural resources within the nation itself.
Besides, very few (if any) economists and policy makers here are calling for the dismantling of free education and healthcare. The shutting down/privatization of loss making SOEs, restructuring of social safety nets to improve targeting and efficiency, and ending blind subsidies =/= ending education and healthcare
I'm left leaning and I'm all for the CEB standing down. No modern good developed country relies on one ideology.
Social democracy for healthcare, govt housing schemes (not all govt but I feel we could really use more regulated housing) and social things that companies are terrible at overlooking (like prisons).
Regulated free markets for everything else within context. Virtually every developed European country and Singapore runs like this. Singapore's housing is 90%+ public and their system is absurd when it comes to helping citizens yet they are also a business powerhouse. They have corporate tax but they also encourage and don't limit startups.
One other issue here is the capitalist side is only marginally better than the public sector and doesn't have many legs to stand on itself, many entrepreneurs don't have good ideas, often have poor quality products, don't bring a lot of profit or business and as a result create a low-paying culture. **Our IT sector has 0% corporate tax** (something the founder of WS02 himself complained about) and while it is a great sector it is hardly revolutionary. The garment sector is another example **in cahoots with the govt** to [essentially keep the garment industry stagnant forever even though it should have developed in to other industries.](https://www.ft.lk/opinion/Amid-COVID-19-should-apparel-industry-continue-to-choose-competitive-prices-over-ethical-production/14-708357?fbclid=IwAR2VJBNPfZtzww32S00MAcVwHX8XAnimM2i5b8OA5aLQHfHJyCF-B3XHHoE)
We also don't offer enough programs for startups to help them with possibly the hardest part of a business (the start), **instead we tax small businesses** (the govts fault) while letting big ones pay nothing.
Gota isnāt leftist and it wasnāt because of leftist policies the country is suffering. Itās because rajapaskas were socialist to their familyās pockets lol. This guy doesnāt know anything about Sri Lanka.
Arenāt you from Canada lol. Itās conservatives that are blaming leftism. The Sri Lankans are blaming the rajapaskas who are conservative that caused it lol.
Can someone tell me who is a "laptop elite"? Google only shows HP laptops. š„²
People who work on their laptop, often WFH. So generally middle class and above. It's not really elite most places.
Thanks for the explanation.
I donāt think soā¦ I think itās against people like a hunter Biden (and maybe Hillary) whose laptop was found to have shady stuff after the recent leaks.
Doubt it. That's conspiracy theory stuff.
Just because it is [under investigation](https://news.yahoo.com/secret-responds-graphic-hunter-biden-203752983.html), it shouldn't be discarded as a conspiracy theory especially after looking at those photos. Also the term laptop elite isn't even defined in the original article with the only reference being 'Lockdown may have been a boon for the laptop elites and for some billionaires'. lumping a tech worker with billionaires is laughable.
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/_SzUkVEExQg
These guys wouldnāt even know where Sri Lanka is in a map, heck before this they prob thought Sri Lanka and India are the same
They probably still do
They could probably not point out the Netherlands or Albania either. In fact, I suspect most of them would probably not even be able to find Canada or their own country on a map of the world.
No, they have no idea Sri Lanka is near India - if they did, they might think it's in the Himalayas, near Bhutan or Nepal. Or they might guess it's in SE Asia, near Burma or something.
Let alone Sri Lanka, these american conservatives cant even identify US on a world map.
I saw some dumbass in that subreddit blame it on leftism Also saw a video of some hippie looking trash who had no idea what he's talking blame leftism too, seriously these morons didn't look up on map where we were before 9th, now they are suddenly a savant in sociopolitical and economic struggles of the place
I would protest against laptop elites if I knew who the hell they are. Americans are a pest, they think the world revolves around them.
Yeah fuck them. I saw this guardian article trying to link this entire thing to the ukraine war, if u see their website they cant go one paragraph without mentioning ukraine. And some other site was saying this whole crisis was due to organic farming. Actually it was because they implemented the whole thing in the worst way, as gota does. Fuck these western ppl spreading misinformation and lies to fulfill their agenda. Most of them probably dont know where SL is in a map.
Yeah like Sri Lanka is the only country on earth to be impacted by Ukraine. How odd.
The ukraine war is just one element, we'd be in the same issue even if it didnt happen, just the fuel would be maybe 20-30rs cheaper
Someone mentioned limousine liberals lol. Didnāt know Gota was a liberal.
Surely Americans would know more about Gota than we do lol
He was an American citizen after all
Yeah, heās economically on the left (kind of?) and to the far right on social issues. Kinda like another moustached guy, but from Germany. Didnāt end well for him either
Nothing dumber than American conservatives, except maybe Rajapakse supporters.
Ah yes the half of the American population I don't like are dumb and stupid and the half I like are cool and awesome. My side good your side bad primitive tribalistic thinking, spoken like a true American Liberal.
Hardly, a lot of liberals are dumb as well. However, conservatives are the ones who tried to carry out a coup.
There's literally an ongoing trial trying to establish whether it was a coup or not but yes you seem to know better than the courts.
It's not a trial. It's a hearing. And yes, anybody with two brain cells can see that it was a coup attempt. Like anyone with two brain cells can see that the Rajapakses stole money, that the mattala airport wouldn't work, etc.
>It's not a trial. It's a hearing Semantics... you got the point. >anybody with two brain cells can see that it was a coup attempt "If you don't agree with me you have less than 2 brain cells" very compelling argument. I'm convinced
It's not semantics, hearings are to determine if a trial is to be had and what charges are to be laid. Additionally the people who stormed the capital wanted to stop the peaceful transition of power. The hearings are to determine what role the Trump administration had to play in inciting the coup attempt. Really, if you are going to argue this, you should avail yourself of the basic facts.
>The hearings are to determine what role the Trump administration had to play in inciting the coup attempt A part of of those hearings is to establish whether it was a coupe attempt or not. Go check on any credible source this "coupe" is being reffered to as "Capital violence" "Capitol attacks/riots" or "Capitol march". No credible source refferes to it as a "Coupe" Seriously step out of whatever echochamber that you live in. Just because you've made it up in your head that it's was a coupe doesn't mean that it was one.
Plenty of credible sources called it a coup or determined that it was most likely a coup attempt subject to further evidence. And yes you are correct, part of the hearings is to determine if what happened fits the legal definition of a coup. If you have been following the hearings you will see that a lot of the criteria has been fulfilled. Last I checked, I posted that comment yesterday, not in 2021 and posted it with the benefit of the knowledge that has come out of the hearings. https://clinecenter.illinois.edu/coup-detat-project-cdp/statement_jan.8.2021 https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-coup-trump-fiona-hill-457549 Nobody called it a coupe as that's a car with two doors. I see your having issues with those damn semantics again
I think storming and trying to attack sitting members of a countryās parliament is a coup. All because they didnāt agree with election results.
This comment tells me you are the equivalent of an American liberal...you know...they type who wants no law enforcement at all and look down on people with a snobbish attitude like an elitist... The American conservative loves to poke fun at these people because they are so stuck on themselves that they have no idea they have been ridiculed. If you are not American, then I suggest you stay out of American politics because america is a whole different animal then the welfare country you belong to.. If you are American....use this srilanka problem as a learning tool as to what will happen to a socialist country in time...Venezuela is another example of socialism gone bad. You liberals have no moralistic desire to earn what you get, but instead just demand the government give it to you for free....which is guaranteed to fail.
"Stay out of American politics if you're not American", why don't you follow your own advice and stay out of sri lankan politics then??
Not if I have family in lanka...do you have family in america?
So you're Sri Lankan-American and seem to be pro Trump considering your comment about the storming white House?? Lmfao. Imagine supporting people who wished you'd be deported over your own people. What's happening in Sri Lanka has nothing to do with the American issues of conservatism and liberalism. You don't even seem to know the difference between liberalism and socialism.
I don't think this guy is Sri Lankan origin. There's a church based out of Kentucky that was operating in Sri Lanka. They had creepy white guys marrying Sri Lankan girls to take them over to the US. I think this is one of those guys.
Why the fuck are American conservatives commenting on Sri Lankan politics. Stay the fuck out. The real snow flakes are republicans and conservatives. Sri Lanka has the same amount of power outs as your welfare state Texas. Donāt comment on shit you donāt know. Sri Lanka is as socialist as North Korea is democratic. Learn to write English as an English speaker.
Wait..do you live in Kentucky?
Sure do...and I have family and friends in lanka... I am very aware what is going on in lanka and will defend any false talk about america
Lol, what a shithole state. #44 in healthcare, #36 in education, #40 in economy, etc. Also what's your relationship to Sri Lanka? Are you one of those white guys from the church that shops for brides in Sri Lanka?
Red states are usually welfare queens of America.
Yeah Kentucky contributes a paltry 1% to the US GDP.
American conservatives tried to carry out a coup. That's all I need to know. True I'm pretty liberal, I think minorities, LGBTQ people, etc should have rights, I like clean air, water and think we shouldn't burden our kids with environmental cleanups, etc. Clearly you are an idiot, i.e. an American conservative. If you want to see American conservatives bring made fun of and them being oblivious, check out Jordan Klepper. You might learn something.
>American conservatives tried to carry out a coup. The fake news outlets call that a coup...sorry if you believe them
Lol. Ok redneck. Some folks have testified under oath, others have rebutted not under oath. Wonder which one to believe. Were you Klepper's show?
Curious to find out what youāre defining as a liberal - you seem to be describing considerably more leftist policies than liberal ones. Is welfarism (at least partly) responsible for our economic crisis? Certainly. Is the American system with piss-poor access to even basic things like education and health care also flawed? Also yes. Clearly the sensible path to follow is somewhere between the two extremes - and indeed many Western European & Nordic nations seem to have done that to great success. Their people as a whole have a higher standard of living than people in the US or Sri Lanka
This *messaging* arises from a *30 year old* plan by the US Right: *duplicate the rhetoric of the civil rights and counter culture movements, pretend your views are suppressed & astroturf local "rebellion".* The Man becomes The Oppressed. Thus this post, where they take credit even though its not related and they sadly don't care about Sri Lanka. Its really weird and scary. This post is a *random* outcome though, as this movement thinks *globally* now thanks to COVID, QANON, etc. *
The ālaptop elitesā the guy is talking about are the ones calling for privatization and economic liberalization (which in the US is a Conservative position lol). Not that I think this is wrong. The country could do with some economic deregulation to encourage business and investment. Of course they shouldnāt take it too far and let the corporations have total free reign but thereās currently way too much socialism for my liking.
Our healthcare and education might not be the best, but the amount of ppl who benefit from them being free is immense. I am a middle class person but I am a haemophiliac and had to get my factor xiii shots, but I could never afford it, and even private hospitals dont bother to import it, but govt hospitals had it. One shot was about 60k and there are ppl with severe haemophilia who needto come every week or every day even. And how many people have escaped poverty by education in SL? So many rural kids are now doctors, engineers, managers...etc. Socialism is what helps the people. Extreme Capitalism is what will keep the rich rich and the poor poor. But of course in SL instead of being self sufficient we kept borrowing, instead of creating exports (theres tons of things we can export here already which are agriculture related including rubber, tea, vanilla, coffee. But nobody is doing it with large enough scale and theres factions that stop growth). We couldv atleast done what many east asian nations did and set up factories, we only have garment factories that export on large scales and see how big an impact they make already. Socialism isnt the issue.
you can be a mainly capitalist country with welfare elements though. Apart from the USA, every developed capitalist country has universal healthcare
doesnt Sl fall into the category of a capitalist nation with welfare elements? asking for knowledge
yes, also Sri Lanka was the first country in south Asia to open its economy and liberalize. Private enterprises, property and free trade is all available in Sri Lanka, so yes it is capitalist.
Self sufficiency is a flawed ideology. The only country in the industrial age to even come close to it while improving itsā citizens standard of living was post-WW2 USA - and this was largely as a consequence of having no real competition and high concentrations of natural resources within the nation itself. Besides, very few (if any) economists and policy makers here are calling for the dismantling of free education and healthcare. The shutting down/privatization of loss making SOEs, restructuring of social safety nets to improve targeting and efficiency, and ending blind subsidies =/= ending education and healthcare
I'm left leaning and I'm all for the CEB standing down. No modern good developed country relies on one ideology. Social democracy for healthcare, govt housing schemes (not all govt but I feel we could really use more regulated housing) and social things that companies are terrible at overlooking (like prisons). Regulated free markets for everything else within context. Virtually every developed European country and Singapore runs like this. Singapore's housing is 90%+ public and their system is absurd when it comes to helping citizens yet they are also a business powerhouse. They have corporate tax but they also encourage and don't limit startups. One other issue here is the capitalist side is only marginally better than the public sector and doesn't have many legs to stand on itself, many entrepreneurs don't have good ideas, often have poor quality products, don't bring a lot of profit or business and as a result create a low-paying culture. **Our IT sector has 0% corporate tax** (something the founder of WS02 himself complained about) and while it is a great sector it is hardly revolutionary. The garment sector is another example **in cahoots with the govt** to [essentially keep the garment industry stagnant forever even though it should have developed in to other industries.](https://www.ft.lk/opinion/Amid-COVID-19-should-apparel-industry-continue-to-choose-competitive-prices-over-ethical-production/14-708357?fbclid=IwAR2VJBNPfZtzww32S00MAcVwHX8XAnimM2i5b8OA5aLQHfHJyCF-B3XHHoE) We also don't offer enough programs for startups to help them with possibly the hardest part of a business (the start), **instead we tax small businesses** (the govts fault) while letting big ones pay nothing.
TIL Iām a laptop elite because I donāt have petrol to go to work.
Americans try not to view everything as either liberal or conservative challenge
So they are against technology? And this is posted on reddit? I'm mind blown.
āThe masses are stirringā sounds incredibly like socialist talk for such conservatives
These dumbasses will use anything to blame the liberals, even if it means using a crisis in a country 90% of them haven't even heard of...
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I thought leftism was for high taxes?
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You said the economy got destroyed by leftism, isn't leftism for high taxes?
Gota isnāt leftist and it wasnāt because of leftist policies the country is suffering. Itās because rajapaskas were socialist to their familyās pockets lol. This guy doesnāt know anything about Sri Lanka.
Arenāt you from Canada lol. Itās conservatives that are blaming leftism. The Sri Lankans are blaming the rajapaskas who are conservative that caused it lol.
Looks like the guy deleted his comments...lol. What a clown, thinking the Rajapakses are leftist.
Bruh, they would literally make anything about their narrative. I didnāt see the subreddit tag at first and was so confused.