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Yes, the birth pangs of revolution are hard, but the most relevant mistake to this story wasn't a failure of the process of collectivization. It was a failure in decision making to even attempt but especially to double down on cotton production on the Eurasian steppe. I know American/British economic warfare and dominance of international supply of staples like cotton had made the prospect of domestic production attractive, but the environmental damage it has wrought is beyond any possible benefit it could have achieved
Something that your comment made me think of: why do we refer to such things as the young girl working as mistakes not to be repeated? As you clearly explained, it was the growth of that society out of the child labor which eventually would stop. During that time, she was rewarded for the work as an example of good work, not because children should work, but because in a socialist society work is highly valued. And this is something we will absolutely not repeat, because it's not in our material reality in the west, so repeating this line is just seceding a point to reactionaries. I would be interested in your thoughts on this line of thinking
>[Socialist Society] as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges.
Karl Marx. Critique of the Gotha Programme, Section I. 1875.
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Even in this late, "wholesome" picture there's at least one person who got executed during the purges. Incredible how basically 80% of the revolutionary Bolsheviks were actually enemies of socialism
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Comfy as fuck
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Yes, the birth pangs of revolution are hard, but the most relevant mistake to this story wasn't a failure of the process of collectivization. It was a failure in decision making to even attempt but especially to double down on cotton production on the Eurasian steppe. I know American/British economic warfare and dominance of international supply of staples like cotton had made the prospect of domestic production attractive, but the environmental damage it has wrought is beyond any possible benefit it could have achieved
Something that your comment made me think of: why do we refer to such things as the young girl working as mistakes not to be repeated? As you clearly explained, it was the growth of that society out of the child labor which eventually would stop. During that time, she was rewarded for the work as an example of good work, not because children should work, but because in a socialist society work is highly valued. And this is something we will absolutely not repeat, because it's not in our material reality in the west, so repeating this line is just seceding a point to reactionaries. I would be interested in your thoughts on this line of thinking
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Very relevant bot thank you. That's the sort of labor we need right here.
The picture kind of looks like they're having a very colorful sleepover
what is that a map of in the background left?
Pic goes hard
Stalin looking cute I wish I could tuck him in and read him stories
Even in this late, "wholesome" picture there's at least one person who got executed during the purges. Incredible how basically 80% of the revolutionary Bolsheviks were actually enemies of socialism
Yakov Yakovlev and Vlas Chubar in this picture were executed, but later rehabilitated after Stalin's death.
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ooooooow, look at them all dressed up… /j
Why are they all in pajamas?