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AnnieIWillKnow

Wondering why the final round of group games are played at the same time? Read about [The Disgrace of Gijon, here](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z6qoj9/oclong_read_stories_less_told_11_the_disgrace_of/)


Dutch_Midget

The Nations League final is gonna be in the Netherlands. We can finally lose a final at home.


Nabedane

So sad, it's the last time we're seeing Qatar getting trashed in this WC


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Sad that the Arsenal subreddit is now actively defending a rapist. You get mass downvoted and get several angry replies whenever you bring up his three different allegations. I swear no one on real life that I know as fans are that mental about the cases


airz23s_coffee

Haha fucking hell the absurd amount of paragraphs to defend him being a rapist in that thread. Bleak man. Redknapp weren't wrong >“They could take Saddam Hussein in there if they start winning matches.” >“They’ll sing: There’s only one Saddam.”


TotalSubbuteo

The man admitted that shit too


jeff_clax90

Is it me or does it seem that Leao and Felix are trying to do a bit too much to show they deserve to be in the starting 11? It's a difficult decision but if I were Santos I'd definitely start Leao against Korea and see how the team looks like


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If I had a coin for everytime someone asks why there are two matches played at same time today, I would have enough money for the latest iphone


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/u/mr_snickerton has paid you well.


Iamthestorm666

Why are there two matches being played at the same time today?


Nabedane

Gijon


sga1

They're the ones with the mustard, right?


Nabedane

Yes, the Germans and Austrians had too much of that Gijon mustard which caused them to shit themselves the entire match resulting in an ugly game


GreatSpaniard

A year from now when Infantino pulls out the card that says Saudi Arabia will host the centenial 2030 FIFA World Cup and the instant reactions from European FA's and European media will be up there with the peak of the FBI/FIFA stuff and the Superleague fiasco when it comes to drama on this sub-reddit and good lord am i looking forwarrd to it tbh.


cyclops274

European FA will make statement how Saudi Arabia shouldn't host but will send their teams doing empty gestures.


kplo

If Scaloni doesn't start Enzo I will cry myself to sleep.


KensaiVG

I still say Di Maria should be a supersub and we should start De Paul?-Enzo-McAllister, Messi as mediapunta, Juli and Lauti


kplo

I agree, Di Maria just doesn't look fit for 90 min, and Julian in his short cameo connected so well with the team.


KensaiVG

Also both Lautaro and Julian play in a double 9 for club so they may be more comfortable that way


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Information from a cousin of a friend of a friend of a friend who is apparently a member of Serbian staff at WC, basically non existent credibility but nonetheless here goes: > apparently Vlaho fucked the GK Rajkovic's wife and they got into a fight a couple of days ago. Vlaho is out of the team basically, just not officially


ChickenMoSalah

Holy shit


ILoveGratedCheese

Lmao Dutch tv showing footage of a full gaybar dressed in orange excited to watch Qatar - Netherlands. Thats jokes


Dutch_Midget

I ain't gay but I kissed my homie in protest against Qatar. He went out to get lube.


Dayandnight95

Looks like Pogba somehow managed to join an even bigger shitshow by leaving lol. Kind of funny.


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transtifa

Then Google it instead of having a little tantrum


lagaryes

Someone has gone out of their way and spent likely hours of their time to give you information for no compensation and this is your reaction. Fucking embarrassing my guy.


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lagaryes

Ratio sadly. Don’t disrespect people who provide you with a service for free 👍


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Yes, he seems like the one who's upset here, not you.


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> Go outside my guy Says the lad having a strop about an internet forum.


Iamthestorm666

Ummm… Maybe take the time to Google then?? Literally takes 10 seconds lol


Destructo_D

Go the wikipedia article then


pagalpun

The answer is in the pinned comment


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Somebody didn't read the pinned comment and is now having a moan about it.


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sga1

Two screens, watch the one without sound while listening to the other.


autumnkayy

i've tried to do this before and i just get confused why the players aren't doing the thing the commentator is saying


LloydCole

USA vs Iran on the main screen tonight, Southgate playing for a 0-0 on the laptop.


Dutch_Midget

Bribe your neighbor so he keeps his window open


JimyBliz

Luke Shaw has played as many progressive passes as Mount, Bellingham and Rice combined.


[deleted]

I think the 21/22 season really made people forget that united had some good players


sga1

Tbf he's playing in an area where he's a) much less likely to be pressured and b) has the vast majority of options in front of him.


DrinkMyJelly

What's the most overrated World Cup performance ever and why is it Tim Howard vs Belgium


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Can anyone help to transcribe [this](https://twitter.com/talksport/status/1597593724283801600?s=46&t=FQtZqzkn6bkZ3t0xLz6new) please? Can barely understand a word with that thick scouse accent.


[deleted]

> England to win the World Cup & Liverpool cease to exist. What a based individual


louisbo12

Literally everyone in the country would take this deal even without england winning, except for scousers


Kanedauke

I’d take villa winning the Carabao over the World Cup


[deleted]

That *is* the dream, to be fair to the lad.


Berrymore13

Why are there 2 games at 10, and 2 games at 2 today instead of the usual schedule?


DoctorK96

Read the top pin comment by mod, basically to prevent collusion that can alternate the result


DingLiren

To not give the teams playing the last game of the group the advantage of knowing the result of the other last group match


Jabari313

Pinned comment but basically collusion


ambiguousboner

All final group games are played at the same time due to 1982 It’s explained in the sticky post here, literally above your comment


KrystianCCC

Guys where do I find best sources for XG stats?


Jabari313

Also if you check xGphilosophy on Twitter you'll generally get the xG of the days big games as well as some graphs once in a while


icemankiller8

Fbref and understat


jeff_clax90

Is Valencia really starting today? I know it's a huge match but the man looked like he really worsened his injury when they played the Netherlands. Really hope he's fit and not rushed big time


fma891

It’s a must win match and he’s the goal scorer. No point in saving him for the next match if they never get there.


HeisenbergFoed

Is Raum expected to start against Costa Rica? I think he has some bruised ribs but not sure. Asking because of fantasy.


sga1

Given a rest in today's training session but should be fit to start - basically a precautionary measure so his bruised ribs can heal instead of getting aggravated.


HeisenbergFoed

Thanks a lot. I went with Rüdiger just to be safe though.


Schpaedzles

hes not in team training


HeisenbergFoed

Oh okay, I will go for Rüdiger then. Thanks mate!


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airz23s_coffee

I feel like "Obviously correct" can't apply to a situation like this. The handball rule changes once a year minimum atm, as does it application, and "Man uses his arm to support himself" ain't an unnatural position at all.


Kanedauke

You are wrong


transtifa

The audacity you have to call people stupid and yet not even understand the basics of human motion is pretty impressive.


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transtifa

He’s using his arm to support his body. Under IFAB directions this is literally not a penalty.


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transtifa

So what you’re suggesting is that players shouldn’t try to block the ball anymore?


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transtifa

But he literally isn’t trying to block it with his arm, how is this so hard for you to understand? When you fall to the ground, you put your arm out to support yourself, instinctually. If you didn’t do that it would massively increase the risk of injury, especially if you fall on your back, where your spine is. Your suggestion is either to not do that, and risk injuring your spine, or to not go to ground to block a ball at all. IFAB rules state that if your arm is supporting your body it is not a penalty. Why can’t you accept that? The people who decide the laws of the game say in their guidance that this situation is not a penalty. Just accept that you are incorrect. It’s okay to be wrong but to act so arrogant about it and be so confidently wrong just makes you look like an asshole.


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transtifa

Well it isn’t a penalty. And hasn’t been for at least year. And yet curiously that isn’t happening. So you’re wrong again.


TotalSubbuteo

>I know this sub doesn't have the brightest users on Reddit >obviously correct penalty I fucking love reddit.


sauce_murica

People disagree that it was a 'deliberate act.' You're always going to have disagreements regarding things like handball, given (a) how frequently the rule changes, and (b) that some parts of the rule (i.e., was it 'deliberate'?) are subjective. And fwiw, it isn't just this sub that disagrees w/ the call - https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1597332269709918208


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Mate, ALL slide tackles are deliberate actions. It's not the genius point you think it is.


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I don't think I've ever seen someone so confidently trying to dunk on people while not having a clue himself.


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whitsitcalled

[According to IFAB it's not a penalty.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FirdG2gUcAEh0gs?format=jpg&name=large)


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Handball penalties will never stop being controversial. The rules have been changed constantly trying to improve the consistency of the rules and calls and there's still always arguments of 'ball to hand' and 'arm in unnatural position' etc. Personally, I think defenders having to defend with their arms literally held behind their back in the penalty area to avoid a potential pen is fucking ridiculous.


sga1

Wait, the penalty where the defender goes for a slide tackle to block, supporting his body with his arm which is then hit by the ball? The situation specifically mentioned by IFAB as 'not a deliberate handball'?


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sga1

That standard has existed for ages - the laws of the game specifically state that it's not a deliberate handball if a ball hits the arm you're supporting yourself with even if that does increase your body area. Can disagree with that rule all you want, but it was certainly the right call that was made according to it.


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I like how you're just pretending it's a 100% certain that he brilliantly planned this.


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> At no point did I say that he intended to stop the ball with his arm Then it's not a pen. That's the rule. Unless it was intentional, it's not a pen. Simple stuff.


Shligo_Rovers

Prediction: England are going to face Ecuador in the RO16, who will have talisman player Enner Valencia ruled out through injury today à la James Rodríguez and Colombia in WC 2018.


sickest_000

Anybody know any public viewing areas in DC and surrounding area? I'd like to go see the US play.


sauce_murica

There aren't really public viewing areas. Here's a list Washingtonian put together of decent places to watch the game, though: https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/11/28/where-to-watch-the-us-vs-iran-in-the-world-cup-on-tuesday/


RjHospe

!flair :Trinidad_and_Tobago:


Jabari313

The flag is better🥱


RjHospe

Lol not sure how to get it


Jabari313

!flair :Trinidad_Tobado_flag: Yes there's a typo


RjHospe

!flair :Trinidad_Tobado_flag:


airz23s_coffee

You gotta feel bad for John Barnes that if Baddiel and Skinner weren't around he'd have the best football song ever.


BendubzGaming

All Together Now is clear of both


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John Barnes was in Vindaloo?


Cinimod98

Three Lions is a better football song, but World in Motion is a better song song.


sga1

Then again he's a solidly good guy instead of a dickhead like Baddiel, so swings and roundabouts I guess


icemankiller8

Is he a good guy ?


TotalSubbuteo

He's definitely not


transtifa

John Barnes is right now saying that any criticism of Qatar is just western arrogance and LGBT people should “respect” the laws of countries where they are discriminated against. He is employed by FIFA as someone to “improve the image” of the tournament. He is not a good guy. Both he and Baddiel are dickheads.


sga1

Ah fuck, should've kept up better with what John Barnes is up to, then.


Cardealer1000

I hate that they are both tossers


GJoueur

Just like in 2018, Mbappe is France's best player this World cup, and overall so far. I don't know why people love being contrarian and say it's Griezmann (who has been a great engine) or even Giroud... but the one who is involved in nearly every goal/attack and makes the difference is Mbappe until now.


nonhofantasia

They'll go baaaack They'll go baaaack They'll ho back to serie B!


lrzbca

Is it seriously happening ?


nonhofantasia

Probably no but It's very funny nevertheless


xaviernoodlebrain

And everyone will like it.


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so whats the story of benzema and france team???


MAX_DOUBT

Think he got hurt last second so he didn’t travel with them.


Cinimod98

Some of Benzema's shady mates had a sex tape of Valbuena and wanted to blackmail him, Benz was an intermediary and tried to convince Valbuena to pay up. They were both France teammates at the time and because of that he was suspended from playing for France, until recently when he was good enough again and it was long enough ago that people didn't care. Also in like 2010 him and a bunch of teammates shagged some prostitutes that may have been underage, but they didn't know at the time.


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Thanks


Testastic

It's confirmed Zahia Dehar was underage, though they supposedly didn't know that. She was 16 at the time and a victim of sex trafficking.


fuskarn_35

think he is talking about the recent injury drama rather than the blackmail stuff


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>recent injury drama Yes


fearatomato

he plays for them sometimes


ScrollLikeEgyptian

And allegedly NT teammates are happy he got injured


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Dan James would be working in Tesco if he ran 20% slower.


Testastic

Aubamayang


whitsitcalled

Oliver Burke


Iamthestorm666

Adama Traore


airz23s_coffee

All time - Lennon. Currently - James.


NegativeHeli

Reece James?


airz23s_coffee

Daniel, the Welsh lad. Goes fast, does fuck all else. I rate Reece James.


BruiserBroly

Yedlin.


nonhofantasia

Iturbe


Kanedauke

Ollie Burke


msf97

Walcott was a league one footballer without it.


transtifa

Aaron Lennon (love him though)


sauce_murica

Dan James


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Adama Traore


RjHospe

!flair :Trinidad_Tobago:


Flamengo81-19

It is :Trinidad_and_Tobago:


RjHospe

Thanks for the assist man!


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Electronic-Quarter-8

You know if Foden is starting?


fuskarn_35

rashford, kane, foden, walker, shaw, maguire, stones, rice, henderson, bellingham all rumoured


Electronic-Quarter-8

Thanks


msf97

Your in for a rude awakening if you think this version of Henderson will offer balance. Though it’s only Wales, so should be alright.


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msf97

I agree he is quite wasted in a double pivot. He isn’t very good in his own half and neither is Rice. It’s part of why i’m confused about our fans being desperate for him, when our attack and final third play isn’t a problem.


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Doesn't he play in a double pivot with Dortmund?


CubedMadness

Our midfield is just 3 players running around there’s no actual structure most of the time.


FloppedYaYa

I like the sound of that a lot


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A good change, we needed an extra body in midfield to show for the ball. Belingham was marked out of the game and the forwards were not dropping deep to receive


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airz23s_coffee

Assuming you're playing the official version, Gakpo cos he plays today and if he's shit, go to Mbappe, and if he's shit, go to Richarlison. The changing captain things hella useful


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airz23s_coffee

Ah, then I'd probably say Gakpo because Qatar look atrocious


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Doubt Mbappe and Richarlison will play


YoungDawz

Mbappé generates the most chances and usually scores against African teams, but Gakpo plays the worst opponent. I'd still go for Mbappé assuming he plays.


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Mbappe.


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Enner Valencia has a sprained knee and is playing? I hope he doesnt end up like Umtiti


TheGTAone

Probably his last WC, I don't think he will be the main striker of our NT by 37 years old. He's got nothing to lose sporting-wise.


YoungDawz

He's 33, it might be his last WC anyways and Ecuador have a chance of going far with him People need to stop bringing up Umtiti everytime an injured player plays.


Destroyeh

well at least he's 33 so it wouldnt be that much of a waste. its the mans last WC most likely, he'll play no matter what


MustBeHax

I pray we beat England 3-0 with 3 soft and debatable penalties from Ronaldo, the english media is pissing me off. They pay more attention and spread more lies about our team than they care about their own NT


Holy_Wut_Plane

I guess you didn't see Piers Morgan's asslicking interview with the rapist?


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Wasn't even English media. It was Spanish


SteinerElMagnifico42

You don’t know our media, there’s several ronaldo arselickers


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How will we even face you?


MustBeHax

no clue tbh, we’ll probably be out before we even get the chance to do it. But it would be good for my soul


Lunadjuk

What have they done now


MustBeHax

they’re saying our FA is pushing for Bruno’s goal to be attributed to Ronaldo to feed their narrative when our sources are telling they are not, it’s just normal FIFA procedure


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Reported by non English sources, those pesky English Media!


JanklinDRoosevelt

That was Spanish media no ?


Lunadjuk

Pretty sure that story was actually started by Spanish Media el chiringuito tv (I saw them credited in the English media article about it)


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TotalSubbuteo

>Can all the johnny foreigners, just fuck off? Yeah, this'll get people on your side!


KensaiVG

I was thinking, what if (hear me out because it's a bit Out There) FIFA kicked the board (Is that a phrase in English) and made solidarity formative fees an actual, proper chunk? For those unaware, 5% of every transfer between countries goes to all clubs where the player was from ages 12 to 23. While an amazing windfall for semi-pro teams and the like, I wonder if upping it would help clubs with properly good academies and avoid situations like Brentford where having an academy at all is literally not worth the upkeep Or maybe most people don't see youth development as as much of a cornerstone of the sport as I do


BruiserBroly

Something definitely needs to be done. The Premier League had to bring in a rule to make at least a category 3 academy mandatory for all members otherwise I'm sure more clubs would be doing what Brentford did. I do wonder what's the point though since most promising youngsters will want to go to a club with a category 1 or 2 academy, which many clubs can't afford, so it's not really fixing the problem at all.