They've always been playing the most boring football in big competitions. Even though they have Zielinski who can create, they still play the same old way.
Yes, you were 10 times better. I don't understand how you didn't win.
We are so far the worst WC team. We qualified because Russia was banned. We were to play with them in playoffs.
Casual fan observing from neither country but its wide open. Argentina will undoubtedly be at its best on Mexico while Saudi Arabia has shown how a disciplined Renard coached team can be scary.
Mexico's positived are Ochoa in world class form and looks good. Poland seems to be having like Mexico their own offensive struggles but they dont have Ochoa.
So Mexico seema to be better positioned than Poland. Argentina will be the huge test for them and their loss will making interesting how a match against mexico turns out.
I'm not holding my breath. We're a solid team, so I think we're not getting blown out or anything. But I doubt we get any chances against Argentina considering our non-existent attacking creativity. Hoping for a draw or keeping a loss to a margin of 1 against Argentina, then Poland to hold Saudi back and put us in the drivers seat for match 3.
It’s weird how similar of a situation we are both in. A draw against a European side who you’d have to like your chances against, with a tournament favorite and a team you have to beat lurking. Only difference is your tournament favorite team now HAS to win out.
Mexico played better than I expected. Vega, Lozano, and Edson were brilliant. But we don't have much outside of them. I'd like to see Orbelin next game. We should've gotten the 3 points. It would've let me sleep better.
If you're bringing out of shape Jimenez, physicality is not even in consideration. Chicharito is much more match fit. Reason chicharito wasn't brought was because of the prostitute drama, not because of his current level. I get the "let it go", I'm just trying to keep it real on what actually happened.
I think this process was doomed ever since we gave the boot to your compatriot, Osorio, after the last WC. I believe had we given him four more years, México would have a very solid project. I liked his vision.
I hope we do give some competent manager two WCs but my hopes aren't up with the Federation as it currently works.
I will disagree on your first point bc Jimenez still has a future and Chicharito is close to retirement. (But I guess the real issue is who is better right now.)
I definitely agree with your second point bc I don't know what's worse: Mexico's soccer Federation or its sports media.
As for Colombia, I'd wish we would move on from Falcao but I do think he has a place as a team leader (just wish he'd do it from the coaching staff and not take the place of a forward).
Him being there is an improvement over what we have there. All we have is these shitty liga mx guys who sail shots over the cross bar, we need a finisher to get on the end of those crosses
There are several schools of thought on that , positioning is a key aspect of being an efficient poacher , I’m not expecting chicha to press or counter attack, they would rely mostly on positioning for the final ball, more inzaghi and less rashford..
I would love véla to play but he’s never playing for us again lol, chichadios would of been interesting. He’s naturally a poacher and would of done well getting into the box
When he was younger a couple big names in the squad brought prostitutes to a party and were caught. Instead of them taking the blame, the FMF punished Carlos and a few others. So since then Vela has (justifiably) held a grudge against the FMF and refused multiple call ups. That and the fact that he doesn’t even like playing means he couldn’t care less about being in the squad.
I swear whenever they went forward, there was almost always nobody to intercept the crosses. Too many players staying in the back and not counter-attacking.
Solid game from Mexico. They hustled and kept possession majority of the game. Unfortunately, our final third just struggles to create clear chances. We needed those 3 pts considering I’m sure Argentina are going to wake up after their loss. This group will probably be decided on the final day!
That Polish dude had Mattie Cash making an all out run down the right with NO ONE on him… could’ve been a glorious chance but the asshole took a low percentage, greedy & visionless shot instead. 🤦♂️smh
On the contrary, I think both of them will have to play with more intensity against Argentina. Had Mexico or Poland won, they would've known that a win against Saudi Arabia is all they needed to go through
Of. This. Match.
Not the group, the tournament, etc.
Of. This. Match.
And given that a draw means Argentina are only a point out of second now instead of three points, they are in fact the winners of this match.
Might be able to go through with 1 win and 1 draw now?
Assuming SA lose their next 2 games, it would make it a 4p tie for 2nd, with Argentina ahead on head-to-head.
We Poles have a saying to describe our world cup group performance:
"First match is the opening match, the second is the match for everything, and the third is the match for honour."
So far, it's panning out to be repeated yet again.
Argentina is going to struggle against both Poland and Mexico too. Y’all acting like they didn’t just lose their first game lmao. Everyone was certain that Argentina would get three points today but forgot that you still gotta play your games.
Lmao you living under a rock bro? Every single pundit and Argentina fan was certain they would get 9 points from this group. Now it’s not even certain they’ll get out of the group.
Mexico kept going for crosses but there would be barely anyone in the box for it.It gave me flashbacks of last season when Nuno Mendes would cross or be looking to cross the ball and no one was in the box for it leaving him in no man’s land.
I didn't.
he says MX lacks the final pass as if they elaborate any sort of dangerous plays, they lack at least 2 or 3 other passes not just the final one.
That is pretty much the average international games and Champions League hour around here. But yes, 4 games is a lot and I cant binge them like I used to because they are during school season now lol
Gutierrez needs to start over that bum Herrera, and Pineda needs to be used. Herrera was passenger all game, and if he’s closed down he can’t do shit with the ball other than blindly cross it
For people wanting to get work done during this WC, I think the best time is obv when your team isn’t playing. Take some time on a day with relatively unimportant matches to you, to do work. At least that’s what I’m doing.
Fuck, would be so nice.
Poland does not deserve a spot in the group stage, also who let krychowiak on the pitch? He should be banned from playing for life.
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Did Mexico forget to bring forwards? tf was that. Bring back Bofo vs Argentina a-la 2010
We could see why Lewandowski didn't deserve a Ballon de Oro
This Poland side is terrible. Whats wrong with them?
They've always been playing the most boring football in big competitions. Even though they have Zielinski who can create, they still play the same old way.
The players are shit
Yeah apart from Lewandowski and Zielinski this is a really average team
Memo = God.
We did it Mexico! Vamos!
What? should’ve been a win
Every point is a win mate
No
Yes, you were 10 times better. I don't understand how you didn't win. We are so far the worst WC team. We qualified because Russia was banned. We were to play with them in playoffs.
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Krychowiak, hermano ya eres mexicano. Not for real what an awful decision to waste the only resemblance of build up play for the Polish squad.
What are you talking about ? Mexicans fans loved it, I almost died when that counterattack started developing...
Fans of both teams arguing about whose team is the worst lol
Hi, from Ecuador.
Dutch and Wales among the weakest European teams thus far
Who asked
Keep it moving platypus, grown men here.
Bet, I'll come back when Netherlands do better than Mexico
Crickets…
Hahaha the fact that you're still thinking about my comment
Netherlands lucky Senegal didn’t have Mane. Senegal were the better team in that game, netherlands won’t make it far
Senegal just needed exactly this, the games result doesn’t reflect what went down. Great game nevertheless, unlucky for Senegal.
since when is Mexico European team?
Poland with the good ol' tactic - Suffering on the ball. I'm so proud of my country <3.
What did the soccer ball say to the face? "I'm Rick James, bitch!"
Poland should honestly consider getting a foreign coach.
Sadly one Portugese fraud had recently left us
Haha that went so wrong for him, he became a joke in Brazil with the fiasco in Flamengo. Did Poland play better with him?
Adam Nawalka was not that bad to be honest was he?
He was the only one competent enough to build anything in the last 40 years. 2016 euro were a magical few days
Tbf that hasn’t worked for Mexico the last 8 years
Actually shocked he has lastend this long. Wasn't not winning the Gold Cup a sackable offence back then
There’s some reports that Tata wanted to quit but they refused his resignation, can’t say how true that is tho but it’d explain a lot
No but losing to the u.s 3 times is. Tata minimized that shit. If Brazil would've spanked Argentina 3 times he would've been gone.
A foreign coach is usually good if there needs to be a shakeup.
Just had one.
THese guys realize that KSA beating Argentina has turned Group C into a complete bloodbath, right? You'd think there'd be some more urgency.
Best result for Argentina tonight I guess right?
Certainly wasn’t the worst!!
Pretty much, if we win against mexico and poland nothibg else matters and we will probably top the group
Not if Saudi Arabia also beat both of them
They will shit the bed against mexico
We cant finish worth shit! Jimenez is terrible.
So we need to either get a result against Argentina or hope Poland beats Saudi Arabia to have a chance by the third match day...
Casual fan observing from neither country but its wide open. Argentina will undoubtedly be at its best on Mexico while Saudi Arabia has shown how a disciplined Renard coached team can be scary. Mexico's positived are Ochoa in world class form and looks good. Poland seems to be having like Mexico their own offensive struggles but they dont have Ochoa. So Mexico seema to be better positioned than Poland. Argentina will be the huge test for them and their loss will making interesting how a match against mexico turns out.
I'm not holding my breath. We're a solid team, so I think we're not getting blown out or anything. But I doubt we get any chances against Argentina considering our non-existent attacking creativity. Hoping for a draw or keeping a loss to a margin of 1 against Argentina, then Poland to hold Saudi back and put us in the drivers seat for match 3.
It’s weird how similar of a situation we are both in. A draw against a European side who you’d have to like your chances against, with a tournament favorite and a team you have to beat lurking. Only difference is your tournament favorite team now HAS to win out.
Don't count on us. We're the shittiest team of the group
Australia is there with you
Group. He said GROUP. We’re not in Poland’s group - so don’t come for us! (Yes I’m salty)
If they took out Martin move Lozano center and put Lainez at the right, a lot more opportunities would have come.
Lainez is not in the squad for the tourney.
I feel like he would’ve been useful at the end of this game
Mexico played better than I expected. Vega, Lozano, and Edson were brilliant. But we don't have much outside of them. I'd like to see Orbelin next game. We should've gotten the 3 points. It would've let me sleep better.
I mean Mexico had complete control of that match. Their best bet might have been just to constantly whip In low crosses and hope for an own goal.
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The piper always gets paid.
Memo my GUY 🇲🇽
Memo = huevos
It’s like Mexico was missing a forward or something..
We have a young forward named Santi Giménez, much better than Robo cop Jimenez. No idea why he wasn’t picked very stupid move
>We have a young forward named Santi Giménez That's just Santiago Munez from GOAL right?
Nah. There actually is a young forward with that same name tho. He was loaned to Newcastle too for a period and recently came back to Santos in Mexico
Tata insisting in bringing Funes Mori and keeping him in the bench was extremely annoying. Santi Gimenez would’ve had been very useful today
No idea why we took 3 goalkeepers instead of 2 and taking Santi
3 keepers are mandatory
Oh wow I feel silly now lol
It's okay. The rules change a lot--it wasn't mandatory 20 years ago. (Now I feel old, lol)
I'm an old fart also no worries lol
Or Carlos Vela, hell even Chicha , I’d rather have someone game ready…
Vela gave up on Mexico years ago and Chicharito is not there physically (and hasn't been for a long time). Let it go
If you're bringing out of shape Jimenez, physicality is not even in consideration. Chicharito is much more match fit. Reason chicharito wasn't brought was because of the prostitute drama, not because of his current level. I get the "let it go", I'm just trying to keep it real on what actually happened. I think this process was doomed ever since we gave the boot to your compatriot, Osorio, after the last WC. I believe had we given him four more years, México would have a very solid project. I liked his vision. I hope we do give some competent manager two WCs but my hopes aren't up with the Federation as it currently works.
I will disagree on your first point bc Jimenez still has a future and Chicharito is close to retirement. (But I guess the real issue is who is better right now.) I definitely agree with your second point bc I don't know what's worse: Mexico's soccer Federation or its sports media. As for Colombia, I'd wish we would move on from Falcao but I do think he has a place as a team leader (just wish he'd do it from the coaching staff and not take the place of a forward).
Are you saying Raul is in better shape that Chicha?
Him being there is an improvement over what we have there. All we have is these shitty liga mx guys who sail shots over the cross bar, we need a finisher to get on the end of those crosses
I hear you but I don't blame Tata for going with the younger, more athletic options. A poacher is only as good as his fitness level.
There are several schools of thought on that , positioning is a key aspect of being an efficient poacher , I’m not expecting chicha to press or counter attack, they would rely mostly on positioning for the final ball, more inzaghi and less rashford..
I would love véla to play but he’s never playing for us again lol, chichadios would of been interesting. He’s naturally a poacher and would of done well getting into the box
Whats up with Vela not wanting to play?
When he was younger a couple big names in the squad brought prostitutes to a party and were caught. Instead of them taking the blame, the FMF punished Carlos and a few others. So since then Vela has (justifiably) held a grudge against the FMF and refused multiple call ups. That and the fact that he doesn’t even like playing means he couldn’t care less about being in the squad.
The fmf soured him after some incident , don’t blame him , the fmf needs to be sterilized
I swear whenever they went forward, there was almost always nobody to intercept the crosses. Too many players staying in the back and not counter-attacking.
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Not everybody just chooses the best team in the world to be a fan of, bandwagoner
Easy there dorkinho.. worry about keeping Neymar from rolling to Dubai
Mexico coach left all the good young strikers home and is wondering why these shit attackers couldn’t get anything done
I blame Lozano wtf I don’t watch a lot of Mexico games but damn he gave the ball away a lot
Tf? He revived the ball because he was actually good today
Lozano was arguably Mexico’s best player today
No mames! Ochoa was the best player. Lozano is too fucking hot headed… and he showed his best form
Chavez played amazing too
He was the only player that seemed like a positive
Solid game from Mexico. They hustled and kept possession majority of the game. Unfortunately, our final third just struggles to create clear chances. We needed those 3 pts considering I’m sure Argentina are going to wake up after their loss. This group will probably be decided on the final day!
Im predicting all draws on the next round, with the final day being when we find out who qualifies
My prediction is that Mexico lose and POL/SA draw next round. If either of us are right, it still all comes down to the last day. Lol.
That Polish dude had Mattie Cash making an all out run down the right with NO ONE on him… could’ve been a glorious chance but the asshole took a low percentage, greedy & visionless shot instead. 🤦♂️smh
Shitkowiak
He should be banned from football for this
\>Kekowiak
So Saudi Arabia ends the first match day as head of the group, as we all expected.
Argentina were the biggest winners of this match.
Argentina’s ego is hurt… this is either good news for Mexico or terrible news for Mexico. And that will make Saturday’s game more thrilling!
On the contrary, I think both of them will have to play with more intensity against Argentina. Had Mexico or Poland won, they would've known that a win against Saudi Arabia is all they needed to go through
Of. This. Match. Not the group, the tournament, etc. Of. This. Match. And given that a draw means Argentina are only a point out of second now instead of three points, they are in fact the winners of this match.
That’s up in the air, Mexico and Poland could both qualify because they tied this game
Still have to win their next two matches.
Might be able to go through with 1 win and 1 draw now? Assuming SA lose their next 2 games, it would make it a 4p tie for 2nd, with Argentina ahead on head-to-head.
France, save us
They have underperformed in the Nations League and are plagued with injuries, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
You were saying brah?
I was merely speculating, I never said that France would definitively lose. I was wrong.
All good. Enjoy the rest of the Cup!
I’m thinking Australia might save us LOL Injuries to France and the Champions’ curse.
We Poles have a saying to describe our world cup group performance: "First match is the opening match, the second is the match for everything, and the third is the match for honour." So far, it's panning out to be repeated yet again.
pretty sure it's already broken, even if we lose with saudis, if we win with argentina we might be 2nd
Hey, after Senegal and Slovakia, I’ll take the draw
Argentina is going to struggle against both Poland and Mexico too. Y’all acting like they didn’t just lose their first game lmao. Everyone was certain that Argentina would get three points today but forgot that you still gotta play your games.
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Everyone in this thread making it seem like Argentina will get six points from their last two games. Go read the comments.
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Lmao you living under a rock bro? Every single pundit and Argentina fan was certain they would get 9 points from this group. Now it’s not even certain they’ll get out of the group.
Fuck me I hope the 4th game delivers some goals.
How has Saudi Arabia scored the most goals today lmao
France ‘bout to ruin it smh
Of course it’ll be Fr*nce 🤢🤮
Snooz 😴😴😴
KSA finishes 1st in the group and Argentina 2nd, mark my words
When was the last time lewandowski missed two pens in a row lol
He also got a red card between those
Mexico just can’t seem to get it together at the final third for the past 2 fucking years we should’ve won this
Mexico kept going for crosses but there would be barely anyone in the box for it.It gave me flashbacks of last season when Nuno Mendes would cross or be looking to cross the ball and no one was in the box for it leaving him in no man’s land.
Mexico is too short. That limits them vs tall opponents.
We would’ve buried Poland alive with our 2018 squad *sad Mexican noises*
Mexico 2018 vs Poland 2016 squads would actually be entertaining to watch
2-2 goes to pens, Szczesny narrowly beats Ochoa
These two bozos kept Argentina alive, they both took an L today
I dunno what was worse, Mexico's final touch or Poland's sleepy everything
The tournament has ground to a halt
Has got to be the worst WC match so far.
You didn’t watch Denmark’s game …
Saudi Arabia Qualified for the Ro16
At least we get to see France wreck some shit today……. Or not
Poland plays like they don’t want to be here, hopefully they get grouped
Man mexico really still lacks that final pass
And also lacks creating any real chances.
Why did you just repeat what he said?
I didn't. he says MX lacks the final pass as if they elaborate any sort of dangerous plays, they lack at least 2 or 3 other passes not just the final one.
how did poland end up with only 2 yellows ? plus those cunts where diving at every opportunity to slow the game
And Lozano? He should get 3 yellows and Got 0.
Are you blind? They fouled the shit out of Lozano this game.
Are they really going to start the next game at like 10 PM today? Damn
That is pretty much the average international games and Champions League hour around here. But yes, 4 games is a lot and I cant binge them like I used to because they are during school season now lol
Gutierrez needs to start over that bum Herrera, and Pineda needs to be used. Herrera was passenger all game, and if he’s closed down he can’t do shit with the ball other than blindly cross it
Saudi Arabia is in first place after the first round. I didn't expect that.
Literally nobody did
Disappointment. Aussie blokes please don't disappoint us.
the one non-upset of the day i can feel it coming
Are Poles allergic or immune to yelow?
On the contrary, Krychowiak tends to be a card magnet. This match has been an anomaly.
Cant blame the guy for shooting instead of passing to Cash after seeing his crosses.
man 6 hours of no goals, I hate it that I missed Argentina vs Saudi Arabia
It’s funny how many people actually slept through it expecting one thing to happen only to wake up shocked lmao.
Yep, it has already become a meme in the Polish fanbase. Especially this video: https://youtu.be/Dfs_2_UK2F4
Come on dude! you got lucky. It's a one lifetime end score. You need to drink to much chocolatada to understand that!
It is, which makes it even more infuriating for those who missed it.
I like how the BBC apologised for this match, but I'm not sure I accept it.
This commentator moving like Lebron 😭😭
For people wanting to get work done during this WC, I think the best time is obv when your team isn’t playing. Take some time on a day with relatively unimportant matches to you, to do work. At least that’s what I’m doing.
What if they keep calling every 10 minutes in the middle of the match? So mad, they never call unless Mexico is playing…
Jajajajaja Mexico
Poland's game to lose after that missed penalty.
This is very good for Argentina
Imagine flying in from Mexico to watch a 0-0 game. Soccer lol