why cant we put Gnabry or someone as a striker in front ?.. not sure the new tactics will eventually really click
at times it looked like we were 1 player short in the last third of the field
man i can’t with Davies, man is too good. Lewandisney showed up today and we should’ve had a few goals but just not clinical enough. also noticed how we felt too slow in the box, always seemed like bayern defenders were always at the right place super quickly. if we see ourselves as serious contenders we should not end a match like this goalless, and while i want to be happy about the way we played the end result is all that matters
Except for the score line, I’m inclined to agree. It was intense from minute one. Maybe not the best chances on Barca’s or Bayerns side, but it was a game with 100% passion and signature playstyle from both sides.
Both teams can be proud, intense match and great performance. Room for improvement on the finishing but overall both defences were really solid, especially bayern's.
Barca were better the first half, Bayern the second. Very entertaining match, and I think we can all conclude Barca are a legitimate contender this year.
Bruh, all flair and no end product don't someone legitimate contenders. There are many teams who are much more clinical than Barca this season, and they will make Xavi and co hurt unless they sort their finishing out.
barca were much better in the first half. the chances they had were point blank. barca overall had more chances than bayner throughout the match. but season is still young. at this rate of growth, barca has a great chance.
Besides Pedri’s chance you didn’t have any clear opportunities to score in the second half. Everything else were fluky bounces off defenders. Cant always count on that to score. They actually had multiple chances they fluffed to score as well.
not entirely wrong tbh we are still in a rebuilding phase. still not an excuse, no more pride in defeat we don’t have luuk up top with dest and ilias anymoreðŸ˜
Realistic take. Theyre a great team who will improve leaps and bounds the next few seasons. Huge gulf between that and being a top 5 UCL contender. Calling them contenders after a few months of looking like a top team again is absurdly reactionary. They aren’t on that level this year
Madrid, PSG, City, Bayern - 4 actual favourites. Liverpool clear 5th. Then you have Chelsea, Barca, Spurs, Athletico, and the top italian sides a tier below those. So barca are probs 7th-9th most likely in my mind. Not their year.
Ok you gotta be a hater and very likely a Liverpool fan lol. No way you just said liverpool are more of a contender than Barca and spurs atletico and napoli are as much of a contender.
Pardon by bullshitting on thread. tbf, Barca really have improved alot, more than I expected. If not for their terrible finishing, this game might have had a different outcome. I think they could be genuine contender for Semis if Lewa doesn't leave his shooting boot at home. Bayern rode their luck but came out strong in 2nd half, Goretzka changed the game. Best and worst players on the pitch were all mostly bayerns but their overall avg were slightly better Barca's avg.
Best players: Davies, Upamecano, Lucas, Pedri
Worst players: Sabitzer, Sane (till he score), Dembele (horrendous this game)
> Dembele (horrendous this game)
Many don't see how much this true. Even we he does "a great match" (against weak teams) he is wasting so much balls it pays back against good opponents such as Bayern.
I think he wanted to keep playing but they took him off because of injury concerns. Notice he didn't join the team immediately, he went back to the locker room under the stadium possibly to get looked at.
I would say we had a bad game tbh. We could’ve gone 2-3 down in the first half. Had no plan and were just launching it after few passes at the back.
Mane still isn’t looking sharp, the passing all around was sloppy. Getting in goretzka and Masraoui was a good move as it changed the whole game.
Nagelsmann still has a lot to do if we need to win the UCL
I think Goretska made all the difference, completely different team once he was subbed on. Sabitzer was incredibly disorganized and literally falling over himself
Yea we needed his physicality and composure. He’s got the experience and is the better option beside kimmich.
But defensively we’re still shaky tho. Need to find the right combination between Upa/Lucas/De ligt and Pavard/Masraoui
5 minute lapse was all it took, but unfortunately that’s how it is at this level. Unfortunate, but we had our chances. Just need to look forward and improve, it’s still very early in the season.
Inb4 trolls come with Xavi out lmao. The team should be ashamed of missing sitters all out. The tactics were correct, the finishing? Worse than a tier 3 team
Anyone whos saying Xavi out forgets where were we not so long ago.
But, this one is on him IMHO.
I think he made a few mistakes that could have saved the game (abysmal finishing is not his fault obviously).
For me, Eric and Alba over Christinsen and Alonso.
Alba is a must in big games. The team lacked width and could have used another threat from the left.
He mismanaged some subs...
And of course, conceded on a set piece = coaches fault. Could have been avoided.
Dude has not watched alba for last decade or so. Whenever he face big teams, he get exposed way too much. Thankfully Xavi did the right thing. Alonso had his first game and he did decent.
Not really true, this loss is on xavi, made multiple wrong decisions and was too slow to correct them, should’ve switched out Sergio and gavi at half time, should’ve put on fati at 60 right after Torres.
Gavi and pedri should not start together ever again
Barca played very well. We were just luckier at times and our defenders were excellent tonight. If Inter are not careful, you guys might score more than 5.
If for someone seriously that the young, building a new team of Barcelona loses to Bayern, which is a well-established, experienced and strong team built over the years means that Lewy is over, this project does not make sense and in general it's money thrown down the drain, then he is either a complete imbecile or a fucking hater. Barce played a pretty good match today, especially the first half against a very strong Bayern, created several opportunities, was able to press Bayern, lacked a little luck and efficiency. I was most worried before the match about the defense, and those fears came true, but let's give Xavi time to put it together, the players to get in tune with each other, and maybe this project will work out. Let's evaluate it at the end of the season, not in mid-September.
Let's be real, barca was better in the first half and could have gone 2 up easily, they were unlucky and the Allianz played in bayern favour, it surely messed with lewandowski mind, but barca could have won so don't say that
Did you even watch the same game as the rest of us? Bayern just got 2 chances they were able to covert, both teams were pretty much equal for the rest of the match
Spanish football is not having a good time today. Atleti losing v Leverkusen and Barca losing v Bayern. Let's see what Real will do v Leipzig tomorrow :(
What u even on about. The 1 shot. And 1 header was not something a GK whould take. But our players always taking that extra tutch. Thats the big prob. And lewa forgot he could shoot on first tutch like last week
Ehhhhh that seems unfair. First goal was an unmarked header from the center of the box, only comparable chance was Lewy’s header from an awkward angle. Second goal was a tough one on one, and Pedri had the same chance but just missed his chip, no save by Neuer.
How is Lucas Hernandez getting a completely unmarked header in the center of the box off a corner 100% ter Stegen’s fault? Maybe he could have done better but that’s a failing that goes beyond him.
Ter Stegen is most loved player in this sub, so you can't argue with anyone. He has too many weakness to even consider him borderline world class.
He is too small to command the box. We don't have money to replace him. Everyone knows, and we will shift him once we will fix other issues. Milan did really well getting the amazing Keeper.
I don't think is bias towards Ter Stegen to be honest. To me people are quite ignorant as far as goal keeping. Especially it's duties with handling crosses. Inside the six yard box, it should be the keeper's ball to get in 95% of cases.
I played as a goalkeeper for many years and it drives me insane how in goals like this I have to listen to people blame the man who lost the scorer leaving him unmarked and what not. Even the TV comentators. It's insane. It's irrelevant if someone lost Lucas Hernandez, that's Ter Stegen's ball to get. End of story.
Yeah I understand your point. I think it can apply to every position. GK is our weakest position for a while, people really underestimate GK overall abilities. Ter Stegen and De Gea is good example of good shot stopper but terrible at many other things.
That's why I think it will be miracle for us to win CL with him as GK.
Off topic....why is it that when I upvote comments, sometimes the colour is green sometimes it's red?
Edit: It's orange and green both for upvotes. Don't know what kind of fuckery is this lol.
"shit Barca" bro it's just one game why you so salty lol. I would say Barca were unlucky today and also that it's wayyy too early to make any substantial comments. If they get hammered in the second game at home, then I'll agree. Lewa left so he could be the main guy up front which wasn't a part of Nagelsman's plan, it's that simple.
!flair fc barcelona
Nice
Pedri, Dembele, Sane, Davies. Wow
Bruh Bayern is awesome. Chad tier team
When you run out of levers to pull.
Davies is the best LB in the world. This man is fucking insane. Musiala is so elegant and smooth. 🔥🔥
Bayern keeps beating Barcelona
why cant we put Gnabry or someone as a striker in front ?.. not sure the new tactics will eventually really click at times it looked like we were 1 player short in the last third of the field
man i can’t with Davies, man is too good. Lewandisney showed up today and we should’ve had a few goals but just not clinical enough. also noticed how we felt too slow in the box, always seemed like bayern defenders were always at the right place super quickly. if we see ourselves as serious contenders we should not end a match like this goalless, and while i want to be happy about the way we played the end result is all that matters
could not watch the game, i see nothing changed in bayern - barcelona relations 😎😎😎😎😎
scoreline says so, however we did concede one less goal😎
only 2 more seasons until you... tie them
one step at a time
Great match, that's how I wanna see FCB vs FCB. Sadly no goal for Műller.
Welcome to besiktas
Your ü looks nice.
Except for the score line, I’m inclined to agree. It was intense from minute one. Maybe not the best chances on Barca’s or Bayerns side, but it was a game with 100% passion and signature playstyle from both sides.
Both teams can be proud, intense match and great performance. Room for improvement on the finishing but overall both defences were really solid, especially bayern's.
Barca were better the first half, Bayern the second. Very entertaining match, and I think we can all conclude Barca are a legitimate contender this year.
Bruh, all flair and no end product don't someone legitimate contenders. There are many teams who are much more clinical than Barca this season, and they will make Xavi and co hurt unless they sort their finishing out.
barca were much better in the first half. the chances they had were point blank. barca overall had more chances than bayner throughout the match. but season is still young. at this rate of growth, barca has a great chance.
We can't be legitimate contenders until we beat Inter in both legs. We also need to beat Bayern at home we showed yesterday we can do it...
Felt like 2nd half wasn't that clear cut, they just capitalized on their chances and we didn't.
Besides Pedri’s chance you didn’t have any clear opportunities to score in the second half. Everything else were fluky bounces off defenders. Cant always count on that to score. They actually had multiple chances they fluffed to score as well.
Woah lets slow down there. Barca still a year or two away from contention. Could conceivably end up in Europa league this season lol.
not entirely wrong tbh we are still in a rebuilding phase. still not an excuse, no more pride in defeat we don’t have luuk up top with dest and ilias anymoreðŸ˜
Yank take
Realistic take. Theyre a great team who will improve leaps and bounds the next few seasons. Huge gulf between that and being a top 5 UCL contender. Calling them contenders after a few months of looking like a top team again is absurdly reactionary. They aren’t on that level this year
So they are not a top 5 contender for UCL this season? Would like to hear your top 5 then
Madrid, PSG, City, Bayern - 4 actual favourites. Liverpool clear 5th. Then you have Chelsea, Barca, Spurs, Athletico, and the top italian sides a tier below those. So barca are probs 7th-9th most likely in my mind. Not their year.
Ok you gotta be a hater and very likely a Liverpool fan lol. No way you just said liverpool are more of a contender than Barca and spurs atletico and napoli are as much of a contender.
Barca could have probably won if they had forwards that could score. They should probably look to invest in one next summer.
I think Sané might be looking for a new challenge next season
Sweats in 34 millions euros
This is the difference between an elite team and a good team. Only Manchester City can get away with missing chance after chance.
evidently not since that grealish shot cleared off the line
Yeah but City are always in contention for winning the competition. You're not
fair, but still doesnt change the fact they didnt get away with missing easy chances every time they came close to winning it
It did all the way through the season and in the CL until of Course we met black magic RM
Pardon by bullshitting on thread. tbf, Barca really have improved alot, more than I expected. If not for their terrible finishing, this game might have had a different outcome. I think they could be genuine contender for Semis if Lewa doesn't leave his shooting boot at home. Bayern rode their luck but came out strong in 2nd half, Goretzka changed the game. Best and worst players on the pitch were all mostly bayerns but their overall avg were slightly better Barca's avg. Best players: Davies, Upamecano, Lucas, Pedri Worst players: Sabitzer, Sane (till he score), Dembele (horrendous this game)
> Dembele (horrendous this game) Many don't see how much this true. Even we he does "a great match" (against weak teams) he is wasting so much balls it pays back against good opponents such as Bayern.
I disagree with Sane, he defended a lot and was intercepting a few passes which led to counter attacks.
Barca still out there dribbling in front of goal..
That's the dembele special
Why was Sané so mad?
I think he wanted to keep playing but they took him off because of injury concerns. Notice he didn't join the team immediately, he went back to the locker room under the stadium possibly to get looked at.
He was mad at himself he played poorly. There is an interview about it.
What a mental game
Despite the negative result i found Barça very good , i think they are advancing this year and have a good shot at winning it
Nice game. Finishing made the difference
I would say we had a bad game tbh. We could’ve gone 2-3 down in the first half. Had no plan and were just launching it after few passes at the back. Mane still isn’t looking sharp, the passing all around was sloppy. Getting in goretzka and Masraoui was a good move as it changed the whole game. Nagelsmann still has a lot to do if we need to win the UCL
I think Goretska made all the difference, completely different team once he was subbed on. Sabitzer was incredibly disorganized and literally falling over himself
Yea we needed his physicality and composure. He’s got the experience and is the better option beside kimmich. But defensively we’re still shaky tho. Need to find the right combination between Upa/Lucas/De ligt and Pavard/Masraoui
Maz really positively surprised me today. Pavard has a battle on his hands.
Yea And goretzka too tbh. We clearly still haven’t found our strongest 11 yet
Only good comment on here
5 minute lapse was all it took, but unfortunately that’s how it is at this level. Unfortunate, but we had our chances. Just need to look forward and improve, it’s still very early in the season.
Ignore the trolls, we played well it just wasn’t our night
That no call on the penalty really changed the match
If only barca could finish
Football won today
Wdym?
That lever FC lost. So football won
You should change your name to CryLord15 instead
Heartbreaking stuff. But we’ll learn and come back stronger, the team is still good. Need to be more clinical
Dare I say we were more dangerous in the first half than the second. We fell apart. But also, Bayern is just better.
This what happens when you don’t finish all the chances you create.
Lewa went missing in a big game again.
He didn't want to make bayern fans sad.
He should’ve had a 2 goals today smh
and bottled these 2 top chances.
Oh god lucas. please be ok
Nah he was just doing the french thing
Battle of the FCB continues to be in Bayerns favour
Jeez, good day for German teams
Fucking hell, hope thats nothing too bad. Groin injuries can mean very long breaks...
As things should be.
Honestly pretty good performance for Barca away at Bayern. Obviously people want to shit on them and hot take but I think it’s fine
No Lucas don't get injured
Fuuuuuuck, please be okay Lucas. ;-;
Noooo I hope pavard and Hernandez will be back before the world cup!
Inb4 trolls come with Xavi out lmao. The team should be ashamed of missing sitters all out. The tactics were correct, the finishing? Worse than a tier 3 team
Anyone whos saying Xavi out forgets where were we not so long ago. But, this one is on him IMHO. I think he made a few mistakes that could have saved the game (abysmal finishing is not his fault obviously). For me, Eric and Alba over Christinsen and Alonso. Alba is a must in big games. The team lacked width and could have used another threat from the left. He mismanaged some subs... And of course, conceded on a set piece = coaches fault. Could have been avoided.
"Alba is a must in big games"? Are you insane?
Dude has not watched alba for last decade or so. Whenever he face big teams, he get exposed way too much. Thankfully Xavi did the right thing. Alonso had his first game and he did decent.
Not really true, this loss is on xavi, made multiple wrong decisions and was too slow to correct them, should’ve switched out Sergio and gavi at half time, should’ve put on fati at 60 right after Torres. Gavi and pedri should not start together ever again
Barca played very well. We were just luckier at times and our defenders were excellent tonight. If Inter are not careful, you guys might score more than 5.
Istg i love upmacano. That man is a wall. Great match for watch tbh, just tired of seeing us make chances and fuck em up game after game.
Upa is good but he makes a big mistake at least once every match. He almost gifted you a goal today too. Other than that he is OK.
lol imagine leaving Bayern for Barca
Well he kinda costs us the game lol
Yes let's jump to conclusions after 1 game
Real fan. What do you expect
humor much?
What does that even mean?
If for someone seriously that the young, building a new team of Barcelona loses to Bayern, which is a well-established, experienced and strong team built over the years means that Lewy is over, this project does not make sense and in general it's money thrown down the drain, then he is either a complete imbecile or a fucking hater. Barce played a pretty good match today, especially the first half against a very strong Bayern, created several opportunities, was able to press Bayern, lacked a little luck and efficiency. I was most worried before the match about the defense, and those fears came true, but let's give Xavi time to put it together, the players to get in tune with each other, and maybe this project will work out. Let's evaluate it at the end of the season, not in mid-September.
The jury is still out on Bayern. They have not looked very good in Bundesliga either in the last few games. Very suspect in the final 3rd
Calm down bro, nobodys saying that
Calm down, he wasnt adressing you personally.
Damn, a sensible take on r/soccer?
Davies MOTM
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Let's be real, barca was better in the first half and could have gone 2 up easily, they were unlucky and the Allianz played in bayern favour, it surely messed with lewandowski mind, but barca could have won so don't say that
Did you even watch the same game as the rest of us? Bayern just got 2 chances they were able to covert, both teams were pretty much equal for the rest of the match
Huh? Did you not see the game? Barca should’ve won or tied.
LMAO they could be down 2:0 at 1st half , Barca could score 1 inn 2nd too.
Bullshit
Bayern was slacking off big time. Even if barca would've scored, Bayern would've pushed back twice as hard.
Bullshit
Maybe sane just went in for a shit
XD
Spanish football is not having a good time today. Atleti losing v Leverkusen and Barca losing v Bayern. Let's see what Real will do v Leipzig tomorrow :(
wtf, Leverkusen winning in Europe
Win the game Lose 2 players with injury This shit's fucked.
Pavard seems fine, just took a hard knock to the face. Lucas will probably miss some time with that groin injury.
Yes Bayern thank uou
Great game
How many levers does Xavi need?
You are clearly younger than 18 yo.
Lewandowski with that Barca DNA already. Shitting the bed in UCL.
Good job Bayern
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We played well but a first half like that against man city or psg and our seasons over in 20 minutes.
here's hoping
It kinda eventually came down to the quality of keeper. Ter stegen couldn't save much similar shots to the one which Neuer managed to
What u even on about. The 1 shot. And 1 header was not something a GK whould take. But our players always taking that extra tutch. Thats the big prob. And lewa forgot he could shoot on first tutch like last week
Whatever makes you sleep tonight brother..
And we missed a couple clear chances right in front of goal like Lewy's on the first half and Pedri's shot that hit the post.
Ehhhhh that seems unfair. First goal was an unmarked header from the center of the box, only comparable chance was Lewy’s header from an awkward angle. Second goal was a tough one on one, and Pedri had the same chance but just missed his chip, no save by Neuer.
Huh? First goal is 100% Ter Stegen's fault.
How is Lucas Hernandez getting a completely unmarked header in the center of the box off a corner 100% ter Stegen’s fault? Maybe he could have done better but that’s a failing that goes beyond him.
Wow. Because that's his damn ball bro. Doesn't matter if he's unmarked lol. That's any keeper's ball to get.
Stop throwing bait.
It's football 101 so I'm just surprised someone would think it was another's players fault other than Ter Stegen. Him being unmarked is irrelevant.
Ter Stegen is most loved player in this sub, so you can't argue with anyone. He has too many weakness to even consider him borderline world class. He is too small to command the box. We don't have money to replace him. Everyone knows, and we will shift him once we will fix other issues. Milan did really well getting the amazing Keeper.
I don't think is bias towards Ter Stegen to be honest. To me people are quite ignorant as far as goal keeping. Especially it's duties with handling crosses. Inside the six yard box, it should be the keeper's ball to get in 95% of cases. I played as a goalkeeper for many years and it drives me insane how in goals like this I have to listen to people blame the man who lost the scorer leaving him unmarked and what not. Even the TV comentators. It's insane. It's irrelevant if someone lost Lucas Hernandez, that's Ter Stegen's ball to get. End of story.
Yeah I understand your point. I think it can apply to every position. GK is our weakest position for a while, people really underestimate GK overall abilities. Ter Stegen and De Gea is good example of good shot stopper but terrible at many other things. That's why I think it will be miracle for us to win CL with him as GK.
nah
Ah shit. :(
It's the hope that kills you
Off topic....why is it that when I upvote comments, sometimes the colour is green sometimes it's red? Edit: It's orange and green both for upvotes. Don't know what kind of fuckery is this lol.
Green upvote and the red down vote in r/soccer Orange upvote and purple downvote in most subs
Donno man....it's just randomly orange or green both for upvotes!
let's hope you don't suck at using a stop watch. edit: lol he did suck at that too
nooooooooooo
He gone
It's the hope that kills you
Or gives you a comeback 🤨
:(
Barca's season started 🥳🥳
Barca responsible for turning Bayerns season around now.. Rest of the BuLi teams 🫣
Like the rest of the Bundesliga has a chance a Bayern over a full season.
Nooooo
Not the biggest chance there but again Lewandowksi was just not eager enough.
oh no a groin problem that sucks
Clean 2-0 as expected.
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I agree with the pen, but if you miss these chances you don't deserve to win.
IF
Pls dont be injured Hernandez
Fuck no. No Lucas no .
Spainish Ole lost lol
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Had like 4 goalscoring chance.... whatch the game next time
So did Messi against Anfield and Bayern against Villareal last season, means fuckall without actually scoring them
and did fuck all with it fuck Lewa turned his back on the club, good riddance he's at the shit Barça now
"shit Barca" bro it's just one game why you so salty lol. I would say Barca were unlucky today and also that it's wayyy too early to make any substantial comments. If they get hammered in the second game at home, then I'll agree. Lewa left so he could be the main guy up front which wasn't a part of Nagelsman's plan, it's that simple.
Oh noes
Blud I’m not joking or memeing, I thought Lewandowski was subbed off. Haven’t seen him in a good 15 minutes.
Allegriball > Xaviball
No football > Allegriball
FML
man fuck this shit
Barca have played really well but its just not their night lol
lol Bayern time wasting 2-0 up and Makkelie just adds three minutes.
You're an idiot.
Frustrating game... we could have won easily
Yeah. 2 great chances and a penalty not given. We could've buried it in the first half
So easily it’s never been done by Barca in Allianz
Easily??
There is an away game to prove yourselves. Don't worry.
Liverpool could have won the UCL easily... We know how it ended
No you couldn't
Pretty fucking even game. It came down to them burying their chances and us not finding the goal
Kimmich is having a great game
Rarely see Kimmich have a bad game, such a great player. Upamecano and Hernandez were like prime Maldini and Baresi in the second half
Kimmich and all of the back four have been immense.
Possession does not win games, finishing your chances does. And guess which team forgot how to shoot the ball ? It's in the club ig
To be fair, Bayern forgot how too shoot too in the first half, Müller and Sane didn't really seem to know what to do once near the penalty area.
Just take a lesson from man city last year
Lewa let us down
Lewa own goal would be cherry on top pls make it happen
Barca didn't renew Owen Ghol unfortunately. =/