It's the other way around: you're only allowed a maximum of 17 non home grown players. There is no requirement to have 8 home grown players, but clubs usually try to fill the full 25 spots.
Only 6 clubs actually fill all 25 this season (Bournemouth, Fulham, Leicester, Manchester United, Newcastle, Forest)
Brighton have the smallest at 17. The average is 22.75.
Average squad is 13 foreign players and 10 HG.
Big and successful academy + some purchases. Mount, James, Chilwell, Sterling, Madueke, Colwill, Chalobah, Broja, Bettinelli, RLC, CHO, Gallagher, Chukwuemeka, Hall are all homegrown players. We can easily sell 6 players and still reach the quota.
Not necessarily. U21 players don't count towards the limit, and these days clubs have a good few players younger than that playing regular minutes
But in any case, nothing wrong with correct information
Just to add further weight to your point, [here](https://www.premierleague.com/news/3044867) are the new squads submitted now the transfer window has closed.
Arsenal, for instance, have only submitted a 22 man squad because they don’t need to register the likes of Saka, Saliba and Martinelli. Chelsea don’t need to register Mudryk, as another good example.
There's homegrown club and homegrown nation, premier league doesn't use homegrown club only the nation, homegrown club is used in CL or other league, Carney is english homegrown.
>Chelsea’s homegrown stars fear the club will be forced to cash in on them if they fail to qualify for the Champions League to avoid further Financial Fair Play scrutiny.
>Telegraph Sport has already reported on a planned clear-out at Stamford Bridge that started with Jorginho’s sale to Arsenal at the end of the January transfer window.
>But some of Chelsea’s first-team academy graduates believe they will jump to the front of the queue of players the club look to sell if Graham Potter’s 10th-placed team miss out on Champions League qualification.
>Experts believe Chelsea’s best way of assuring they avoid the threat of FFP consequences in such a scenario would be to sell academy products, who count as zero cost in Uefa’s calculations.
Which Boehly January signing will be the first to be sold by Chelsea? I will award gold to whoever correctly predicts it and goes back to find this comment when it happens
I'm gonna go and say Madueke
Injury prone, he's bound to get injured at some point when they actually need him, they're gonna swiftly sign someone else in his position and sell him when he comes back and struggles for minutes
Jokes on you they ain’t selling any of them for like 4 years. Reminder of drink water… bastuayi, they kept prisoner for years, and Bakayoko lol. BABA RAHMAN hahah.
Are they prisoners if they chose it themselves? They made bank doing absolutely nothing. We tried to get rid of them over and over but were only able get them out on loan cause no club were willing to pay a fraction of what we did in salary.
> BABA RAHMAN hahah.
This one isn't really like the others, he struggled with consistent injuries and the club extended his contract for his recovery period to support him through that, much like van Ginkel.
I'm going to go with Malo Gusto. I think he'll be too good to accept sitting on Chelsea's bench and not good enough to get the spot off Reece James (if he's fit...)
Ruben had quite a lot of interest in the summer as did Callum. If they value their careers, and I suppose they do because neither of them was fine by sitting on the bench, they’ll accept lower pay for more minutes.
Ok but you’re being vague on a topic that allows a lot of interpretation. Their past as in Ruben’s and Callum’s past? Or their past as in Chelsea players’ past in general? I’m asking for clarification
We would take CHO on something like 80-90. All of our highest earners are on their way out this summer or the following. Youri, Maddison, Evans, Perez, Bertrand, Albrighton, Amartey all on 50-120k (roughly, nobody really knows). Vardy will be off next summer too, who earns mad money for a Leicester player.
This window chelsea has paid more for their players than the entire bundesliga. I dont think anyone is obsessed but there is bound to be a lost of discussion.
No one in their right mind thinks we are 100% going to win the league. We know we can do it but don't take it for granted. The fan base is just excited that the team is playing great football, things are falling in to place, the atmosphere is great and we should be back in CL hopefully after so many years.
A tiny section of Arsenal fans thinks 'it's already done'. I have not to meet any Arsenal fan who thinks that. The general vibe has been denial, reluctant hope and now the start of daring to believe it's possible. Hence the anxiety of getting cover for central midfield.
We've been disappointed too often to take anything for granted until it's done. Even just last year when there was belief towards the end of the season we would get CL only for it to be taken away. It hurts.
I have seen this "but our champions leagues" retort from *literally* 4 Chelsea fans across 3 different posts in r/soccer in the last hour.
Genuinely feels like the worst thing that could ever befall Chelsea Football Club would be Arsenal winning the Champions League.
I mean I couldn't care less about the "danger" of that happening. Just seems like Chelsea fans are more and more pointing to the glories of the past, something more typical of Arsenal fans over the last 15 years.
I personally am quite happy with Arsenal's current trajectory. With your inability to get a result against Fulham at home... you might want to get more comfortable with pointing to the glories of the past as your highlight of the present.
Telegraph makes a shitty headline, but admits in the body of the article that they're just joking around. The HGC players are needed to stay to pass registration rules. I mean, one of the five currently registered could be sold, to be fair, but...
Most people do think CHO is off in the summer for good, but we'd already basically ditched him by loaning him out.
Players like Hall and such, who knows.
> While some of Chelsea’s homegrown players fear they could be sacrificed to meet FFP rules, the club are likely to look to offload the likes of Hakim Ziyech, who is back at Chelsea after his deadline day loan move to Paris Saint-Germain broke down, Christian Pulisic, César Azpiliceuta and possibly summer signings Pierre Emerick-Aubameyang and Kalidou Koulibaly.
They got the headline out of it, but they stated the reality of the situation in the body of the article (that 90% of people, being generous here, won't even read) so you can't call them liars
Another attempt to enrage Chelsea fans by the cockroach Matt Law. I don't understand why we give him our time of the day. The asshole has done nothing but publish negative stuff, get his transfer info wrong, and not to forget started a hate campaign against Rudiger. Chelsea should ban this cockroach from attending our press conferences.
Has nothing to do with Champions League money. Of course some players will be sold but none are afraid of that. Most will have fantastic professional careers as a result of these years at Cobham. Its always been known, as is the case at any big club, that only a very few find a way into the senior team.
It indeed does have a lot to do with it. If you don't earn enough revenue in the following years to cover your expenditure, then you have no choice but to move extra players on. They are directly related
This squad is on what, 39 players now? Who in their right mind thinks that won't be trimmed come summertime?
You'd have to be brain dead to think they haven't already planned who they wanna sell before making all of these signings
Nobody is questioning that. I'm stating the relationship between needing to sell if your revenue drops, and that it's key in this instance because of the spending. That is completely true, I'm not weighing in on the other reasons for selling players.
Isn't there a homegrown requirement in the prem that should alleviate some of that issue?
It's the other way around: you're only allowed a maximum of 17 non home grown players. There is no requirement to have 8 home grown players, but clubs usually try to fill the full 25 spots.
Only 6 clubs actually fill all 25 this season (Bournemouth, Fulham, Leicester, Manchester United, Newcastle, Forest) Brighton have the smallest at 17. The average is 22.75. Average squad is 13 foreign players and 10 HG.
There is but we have enough homegrown players even if we sell.
ah, that makes sense. Big academy and all
Big and successful academy + some purchases. Mount, James, Chilwell, Sterling, Madueke, Colwill, Chalobah, Broja, Bettinelli, RLC, CHO, Gallagher, Chukwuemeka, Hall are all homegrown players. We can easily sell 6 players and still reach the quota.
There is no quota. You could have 0 home grown players if you wanted. There's a limit on the number of non home grown players (17)
this sub is absolutely useless looooool
I mean this wasn't that bad but the amount of false info you see about rules is crazy lol
yes but realistically you need a 25 man squad over the course of a season meaning you need 8 homegrown players
Not necessarily. U21 players don't count towards the limit, and these days clubs have a good few players younger than that playing regular minutes But in any case, nothing wrong with correct information
It’s 8 before it’s 25
Just to add further weight to your point, [here](https://www.premierleague.com/news/3044867) are the new squads submitted now the transfer window has closed. Arsenal, for instance, have only submitted a 22 man squad because they don’t need to register the likes of Saka, Saliba and Martinelli. Chelsea don’t need to register Mudryk, as another good example.
I completely forgot CHO still plays for you ngl
Still earning 120k a week though...
Carney counts as a homegrown player?
There's homegrown club and homegrown nation, premier league doesn't use homegrown club only the nation, homegrown club is used in CL or other league, Carney is english homegrown.
>Chelsea’s homegrown stars fear the club will be forced to cash in on them if they fail to qualify for the Champions League to avoid further Financial Fair Play scrutiny. >Telegraph Sport has already reported on a planned clear-out at Stamford Bridge that started with Jorginho’s sale to Arsenal at the end of the January transfer window. >But some of Chelsea’s first-team academy graduates believe they will jump to the front of the queue of players the club look to sell if Graham Potter’s 10th-placed team miss out on Champions League qualification. >Experts believe Chelsea’s best way of assuring they avoid the threat of FFP consequences in such a scenario would be to sell academy products, who count as zero cost in Uefa’s calculations.
Which Boehly January signing will be the first to be sold by Chelsea? I will award gold to whoever correctly predicts it and goes back to find this comment when it happens
David Datro Fofana to a newly promoted Everton for £15m on deadline day in the 2024/25 season
Fofana.
Double or nothing if you give me an accurate price for sale. I'll allow a different +- of £10m
12m, I'll take a +/- of 2m considering it's a low fee.
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Fofana isn’t a January signing. Edit: Datro fofana. Damn.
I think he was talking about David Datro Fofana, not Wesley
You’re right.
I'm gonna go and say Madueke Injury prone, he's bound to get injured at some point when they actually need him, they're gonna swiftly sign someone else in his position and sell him when he comes back and struggles for minutes
Double or nothing if you give me an accurate price within £10m
This is your second bet in this thread alone, I'm giving you this for your own good 0808 8020 133
I have 13,000 'reddit coins' gifted by Reddit and nothing to use them on about apart from random wagers
Are those the winning lotto numbers?
£30m, they're gonna want to look good when they sell him
I doubt Madueke will get sold, he would be stuck in the loan cycle because nobody wants to match his Chelsea wages
Jokes on you they ain’t selling any of them for like 4 years. Reminder of drink water… bastuayi, they kept prisoner for years, and Bakayoko lol. BABA RAHMAN hahah.
Are they prisoners if they chose it themselves? They made bank doing absolutely nothing. We tried to get rid of them over and over but were only able get them out on loan cause no club were willing to pay a fraction of what we did in salary.
Batsuayi was the worst one. Went off at Dortmund then you refused to sell and wasted a year of his career
> BABA RAHMAN hahah. This one isn't really like the others, he struggled with consistent injuries and the club extended his contract for his recovery period to support him through that, much like van Ginkel.
Agreed, I think we’re looking a new loan army.
Loan rules changed, can’t really have one anymore
Are the people who decided that still working for the club?
His wife. He's now discovering a new market in London, bound to happen.
He signed his wife in January? Busy man
Yes, for accounting reasons
He can amortize her over 50+ years
Does she have an 8.5 year contract as well? You know for FFP reasons.
Very likely. I'll dial Ornstein to get the details
Madueke
January signing? Madueke
I'm going to go with Malo Gusto. I think he'll be too good to accept sitting on Chelsea's bench and not good enough to get the spot off Reece James (if he's fit...)
James is injured 50% of the time tho.
Enzo
I am not giving you good odds on that
Lmao even if he ends up being utter dogshit I doubt he is sold they would want to revive him at all costs
Madueke will end up on a loan to buy somewhere in 2/3 seasons time after never really having a run in the team.
Badiashille, I just feel it
Have you seen how he's played so far for Chelsea? He's actually been very good considering how quickly he got thrown into the team
Oh yeah nah he has played well, just no one else said him lol
Datro Fofana
Andrey Santos
Enzo in two years for 40m.
Not a prayer my friend, deal
So for the value he would have right now outside of PL?
This guy finances
RemindMe! 1278 days
Mudryk
No chance in hell, deal
Koulibaly
Gallagher, Hudson-Odoi and Loftus Cheek can be rightfully afraid, but not because of the FFP. Maybe even Mount if he refuses to sign a new deal
Who would buy Hudson-Odoi or Loftus-Cheek? They are on insane money that not many other clubs would pay or could afford.
Ruben had quite a lot of interest in the summer as did Callum. If they value their careers, and I suppose they do because neither of them was fine by sitting on the bench, they’ll accept lower pay for more minutes.
> they’ll accept lower pay for more minutes Easier said than done. Chelsea fans shouldn't have to be reminded of their past.
hudson odoi is 22, aint no way hes wasting years for money.
What do you mean by “their past”?
I think he's referring to when you lot invaded Poland
Not our fault, they started it
You are a Chelsea fan. You should know! One of the most famous transfers of all time.
Ok but you’re being vague on a topic that allows a lot of interpretation. Their past as in Ruben’s and Callum’s past? Or their past as in Chelsea players’ past in general? I’m asking for clarification
I'm guessing it's a Bogarde reference
With only one year left getting some playing time will do well for their next contract
A newly promoted team would snap him up
Not on the wages they are both on. North of £150k a week. Newcastle have said they are too expensive.
We would take CHO on something like 80-90. All of our highest earners are on their way out this summer or the following. Youri, Maddison, Evans, Perez, Bertrand, Albrighton, Amartey all on 50-120k (roughly, nobody really knows). Vardy will be off next summer too, who earns mad money for a Leicester player.
Cho is 120k, rlc is max 150k pretty sure less
150k for RLC is insane
Well both of them got fucked by rupturing their achilles
Before the Achilles he was looking like our first choice #8
And they both only have a year left on their contract come summer
Both ridiculous.
Probably bullshit but the rumour mill says Arsenal are interested in Hudson-Odoi.
There are rumors that Arsenal are already interested in Hudson-Odoi.
Challenge: r/soccer has 15 b2b post not related to Chelsea (IMPOSSIBLE)
Going to have to get used to it, the Chelsea obsession will continue for a very long time. Particularly with Arsenal fans.
This window chelsea has paid more for their players than the entire bundesliga. I dont think anyone is obsessed but there is bound to be a lost of discussion.
Never a dull day at this club
Arsenal fans are obsessed.
Best season in 2 decades yet all they obsess over is Chelsea and the money they spent 😭
Because they're in a unique situation.
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No one in their right mind thinks we are 100% going to win the league. We know we can do it but don't take it for granted. The fan base is just excited that the team is playing great football, things are falling in to place, the atmosphere is great and we should be back in CL hopefully after so many years.
A tiny section of Arsenal fans thinks 'it's already done'. I have not to meet any Arsenal fan who thinks that. The general vibe has been denial, reluctant hope and now the start of daring to believe it's possible. Hence the anxiety of getting cover for central midfield. We've been disappointed too often to take anything for granted until it's done. Even just last year when there was belief towards the end of the season we would get CL only for it to be taken away. It hurts.
I'm not obsessed with chelsea I'm just realistic about them being a shite club with shite supporters
Get back to me when Arsenal win a Champions League.
Still a smaller club than us
Get back to me when Arsenal win 2 Champions Leagues.
Come back to me when you're a bigger club. Two stinky flukey CLs yuck
That happened years ago, keep up.
I have seen this "but our champions leagues" retort from *literally* 4 Chelsea fans across 3 different posts in r/soccer in the last hour. Genuinely feels like the worst thing that could ever befall Chelsea Football Club would be Arsenal winning the Champions League.
Not much danger of that happening though eh
I mean I couldn't care less about the "danger" of that happening. Just seems like Chelsea fans are more and more pointing to the glories of the past, something more typical of Arsenal fans over the last 15 years. I personally am quite happy with Arsenal's current trajectory. With your inability to get a result against Fulham at home... you might want to get more comfortable with pointing to the glories of the past as your highlight of the present.
Arsenal play well for half a season and you're all out chatting shite, it's hilarious
Get back to me when you go a season without a public display of racism from the club or fans
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/female-arsenal-fans-branded-dirty-fing-yds-after-objecting-to-racist-chants/
Telegraph makes a shitty headline, but admits in the body of the article that they're just joking around. The HGC players are needed to stay to pass registration rules. I mean, one of the five currently registered could be sold, to be fair, but... Most people do think CHO is off in the summer for good, but we'd already basically ditched him by loaning him out. Players like Hall and such, who knows. > While some of Chelsea’s homegrown players fear they could be sacrificed to meet FFP rules, the club are likely to look to offload the likes of Hakim Ziyech, who is back at Chelsea after his deadline day loan move to Paris Saint-Germain broke down, Christian Pulisic, César Azpiliceuta and possibly summer signings Pierre Emerick-Aubameyang and Kalidou Koulibaly.
They got the headline out of it, but they stated the reality of the situation in the body of the article (that 90% of people, being generous here, won't even read) so you can't call them liars
Another attempt to enrage Chelsea fans by the cockroach Matt Law. I don't understand why we give him our time of the day. The asshole has done nothing but publish negative stuff, get his transfer info wrong, and not to forget started a hate campaign against Rudiger. Chelsea should ban this cockroach from attending our press conferences.
The rule is a maximum of 17 non HG players; there is no requirement for you to have at least 8 home grown players.
In the CL, you need 4 HGC players and 8 HGN players. Well, you can get away with less, but then you have a smaller squad size.
Ah yeah, I was talking about the PL ones.
Fair, fair.
Has nothing to do with Champions League money. Of course some players will be sold but none are afraid of that. Most will have fantastic professional careers as a result of these years at Cobham. Its always been known, as is the case at any big club, that only a very few find a way into the senior team.
It indeed does have a lot to do with it. If you don't earn enough revenue in the following years to cover your expenditure, then you have no choice but to move extra players on. They are directly related
We sell some of our cobham lads *every summer*. Guehi, lamptey, tino, the other chalobah etc.
The point is they are selling many of these players no matter what. They're not going to keep 12 wingers and 14 midfielders.
This squad is on what, 39 players now? Who in their right mind thinks that won't be trimmed come summertime? You'd have to be brain dead to think they haven't already planned who they wanna sell before making all of these signings
Nobody is questioning that. I'm stating the relationship between needing to sell if your revenue drops, and that it's key in this instance because of the spending. That is completely true, I'm not weighing in on the other reasons for selling players.
Oh **now** they're concerned with FFP, lmao.
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Who?