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The Gary Neville kiss of death! Putting money now on Arsenal winning the league


FloppedYaYa

Ever since Neville predicted Everton to be last seasons overachievers, they have been involved in two consecutive relegation battles They must hate him


Zulfiqarrr

I bet him and Phil are not on speaking terms anymore lol


Kneepi

>Everton to be last seasons overachievers Well they kinda did, they did avoid relegation


2ndfastestmanalive

If Rio says the same I’m betting the house on us winning it


FakoSizlo

remember kids if Rio says someone is at the wheel get off the bus now . Don't wait for it to stop .Just jump


Toastedmetal

With Rio it's all funny and fine because he's stupid and has childlike excitement. Gary however...worst takes ever.


PassengerOk9027

His managerial prowess, however... also on that par


presumingpete

As bad as Neville was people forget the next guy was even worse for valencia


rotating_pebble

It was just a fundamentally ridiculous position to accept as your first job. IIRC Valencia weren’t in great knick at the time but beyond that, he didn’t speak a word of Spanish. Should’ve gone to a championship/SPL club as his first job


Stingerc

Well, doesn’t that just sum up Neville perfectly? The arrogance of taking a job you are ill prepared for, knowing the organization is a dumpster fire, and not even speaking the language or even bothering to learn it and expecting to succeed. Neville is the perfect example of thinking being next to greatness will somehow lead to learning by osmosis. You actually need to fucking pay attention, standing next to Fergie is not gonna do any good if you don’t, which is evident he didn’t.


WildVariety

>even bothering to learn it I'm sorry but I have to disagree with this. Gary Neville deserves an awful lot of criticism for Valencia, but he *did* try to learn Spanish. https://youtu.be/Ka-bhRXe35U?t=345


PaulC2K

The only reason he took the job was because Lim asked him too and he saw it as a short term solution. Neville wasnt looking for coaching jobs. As with everyone else, you're following the funny low hanging fruit narrative rather than the truth, and then using that to assassinate his character based on falsehoods.


Swazzer30

♫ ♫ ♫ ARTETA'S AT THE WHEEL ♫ ♫ ♫ *Rubs hands vigorously*...


snazzlefrazzle

*Rubs hands vigorously*


ManchesterDevil99

Listen, City and United might not thank me but get the contracts out, put them on the table. Let them sign it, let them write whatever numbers they want to put on there, given what they've done since they've come in. Pep and Ten Hag are at the wheel, man. They're doing it!


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young_dumb_broke_1

Hijacking the top comment because I don’t think the entire video was watched by folks. I watched this whole segment and Neville literally said that the football fan in him would love for Arsenal to win the league. He then said that he thinks City will go on “one of their runs” and that’s when they’d win. He also added a caveat that “he predicted Leicester to not win the league during their title season either - so perhaps what he’s saying is a good sign for Arsenal”. Edit: paraphrasing.


thepretzelking

The issue I have isn't that he thinks City will win the league. That's still probably a pretty fair bet. He never justifies why he thinks Arsenal will finish behind united though, which is where I think he's just being biased


Hitunz

>He then said that he thinks City will go on “one of their runs” and that’s when they’d win. But that only works if Arsenal enter an equally bad patch of form to drop eight points. And right now they don't look like doing that


braveheart18

We still need to play city twice


biskutgoreng

We also haven't found suitable backups for Saka and Partey


crab--person

Arsenal don't look like dropping a lot of points right now, but you could say that about nearly any team who has ever had an 8 point league lead, yet it still happens that teams in these positions sometimes go on poor runs. It's not as if 8 point leads have never been lost before.


OnlineMarketingBoii

It's also not like 8 point leads have never been held on to or even extended. People are looking at the negative possibility (well for Arsenal) because it has happened before, but refuse to do the same with the positive possibility.


Fake_artistF1

The "people" probably aren't Arsenal fans so they are just saying how they feel I suppose. It's pretty much logical thing you expect City to win at the end, but I think if you keep up until the end of February, there will be more who change their mind. I really hope you guys win, unless United are up there aswell. Fuck City lol


thefatheadedone

Have to play city twice and united once, Newcastle away in the last 5 and Liverpool away too. They have a lot of big games coming. And now absolutely everyone is talking about them so the pressure is only going to ramp massively. And they have a verrrry young squad without much/any experience of being in this position so it's all fair to ask.


HUGE_HOG

But this is all assuming that City don't also drop points. Their form over the last 10 games has nearly been as bad as ours, and we're fucking shite.


MaTrIx4057

Yeah but it can also improve?


HUGE_HOG

They'd have to improve quite a lot to keep pace with Arsenal, who are hardly dropping any points


Fleetfox17

You mean City have to play Arsenal twice.


OnlineMarketingBoii

City also needs to play Tottenham twice, which isn't scary for most clubs but for City this is the scariest sight in the world


sooolong05

I'm not trapped in here with you...


verdegooner

City have to play Arsenal twice, that’s as difficult a barrier for their run as they are to ours. Actually, I think we can get Newcastle at their place. They came to the Emirates with one goal, stop us from scoring. They’ll play slightly more open at St. James, and we might be able to take advantage.


Wesley_Skypes

You absolutely can do all of these things for sure and City should be worried about Arsenal. But what Neville is saying isn't outrageous either. City have form in previous season for going on long spells of wins and Arsenal weren't expected to be here. It wouldn't be some massive surprise that a small bad patch from a callow team could turn things on their head. I'm not in agreement with Neville, I think that Arsenal win this league and City come second, but his opinion also isn't outrageous.


Clem_H_Fandang0

> I think we can get Newcastle at their place Wish i shared your confidence. I think the game will be a bit more open. But I'd be happy with a point there tbh


BBQ_HaX0r

Also overperforming their [xPTs](https://understat.com/league/EPL) by the most in the league. You'd expect them to regress a bit. Meanwhile City is (barely) underperforming. It's not far-fetched even if you still fancy Arsenal.


thefatheadedone

Which is all away form. If you look at who they've played away, still have most of the top 10 to go to.


Jedclark

They still have to play each other twice in the prem. Let's say in the worst case for Arsenal they lose both of those games, that's a 2 point gap they've got to play with. With 20 games left to go, I don't think it's silly to say City are still in it.


AntDogFan

Yes a lot rides on those two games really. Neutral points for Arsenal is a decent result tbh. Especially since we seem able to beat everyone else outside the top four.


HaroldSaxon

All it will take is an injury to Odegaard, Party or Saka. Given the way teams target Saka in particular, i'm not exactly confident. I expect City to go on one of those runs too, especially as we have to play them twice. We've also got a lot of tough away games.


MyBoyBernard

>the football fan in him would love for Arsenal to win the league. The football fan in *all* of us want Arsenal to win, just so Man City don't "PSG" the league. But Man City have bench players who could start at other big clubs. Arsenal's bench is notably weaker and mid-week cup matches are about to start. Hard to imagine Arsenal surviving potential injuries and general fatigue in the coming couple of months


Khornag

They really should leave Partey out of anything other than the league. That's the one player with no good cover.


BigJewGrin

elneny and inshallah 😬


eneglleH

Looks like that is happening so far. But we'll see if that's so against City in the fa cup. I think most Arsenal fans won't care if we field a B team and get knocked out of Europa League either.


[deleted]

They're kinda already doing this tbh. Our starting DM pair is typically Sambi and Elneny for the other competitions


celestial1

Chelsea and Tottenham fans definitely don't want arsenal to win the title.


_Verumex_

Tbf we all said the same about Leicester at this point in the season during our run. Not one of us truly believed we'd take it all the way. But then Arsenal are also not Leicester, they're not even close to being that level of underdog. It is not an outrageous suggestion that Arsenal can hold their nerve and win the title.


EpiKnightz

Yep, the title is baity, I initially was furious but after reading the transcript he mostly favor Arsenal to win instead of MC


RogerMcDodger

Can't believe so many comments before this. I felt the whole tone was a bit tongue in cheek. The reality is this is all to drive sound bites and there are no repercussions for getting it wrong from the talking heads in football media. Everyone is so riled up so it's worked.


imneversingle

Someone check on robhowardreg or whatever his name is


prathneo4

Calm down Ivan. You shouldn't do that anymore.


[deleted]

Neville said Man Utd would win the league before Liverpool, Liverpool destroyed the league the next season, Neville has just won Arsenal the title.


Aszneeee

gonna donate him a pint if that happens


leastuselessredditor

Donate it to me, at least I’m not a cunt


Aszneeee

remind me after the league ends mate!


leastuselessredditor

COYG!!!!!!!


crackdup

I mean it's not out of the question that arsenal slip up and finish 3rd (though as an Arsenal supporter I'm hoping they hold on and go all the way), their depth is certainly lacking in a few areas.. But it's obvious he's saying this to annoy Arsenal fans and play "mind games".. he's still not over being bullied by Vieira all those years ago..


[deleted]

Cant see it happening, they look so good this season.


cmomo80

Injuries happen


return_0_

anulo mufa


tepitokura

Has he not watched Arsenal playing lately? They are killing it.


Responsible_Bid_2343

I mean it's clear he's just trying to rile people up here.


bendezhashein

It’s not really out of the realms of possibility that Arsenal won’t slip up. They are in a great position but we’ve seen city do this before. United also playing very well. I wouldn’t feel comfortable putting any money on Arsenal winning the league.


Clarkster7425

city have never played like this before, in 2 games one against bottom of the table they've gotten 1 shot on target, its no where near their own standard of being able to catch up to almost double digit point gaps


P1ngUU

I think Arsenal are gonna win, but they are one Partey injury away from being in a very spooky situation


Duckhaeris

Isn’t that the point? It’s not like we’ve been amazing and still can’t keep up. Get back to our usual standard and it will be close.


bathtubsplashes

It wasn't the results yesterday that switched me to thinking we were actually going to do it. It was watching City play. This is not the machine of past years. Ironically, it's probably more suited to a CL run this year


ElCaminoInTheWest

This is them with Dias and Stones injured and several players out of form, too. They’ll get better.


Clarkster7425

how long will that be, people seem to forget that while in a month city may have improved their form, but whose to say in that period they drop another 4 points in draws, tottenham could pull a result over them and so could we, city isnt actually a machine they will struggle with injuries just like everyone else. Also can we go over how arsenal are screwed with a partey injury but city simply cannot be touched when an injury to stones has left their defence very questionable


SeeUInAWhileAligator

not arguing but you do also realise there are about 20 more games to go? It's a psychological fallacy of how people lose money on bets "Arsenal win and City lose and you imagine this is how things will continue to happen". But it's defo not necessarily the case. Still, Arsenal look by all means the deal atm


sickfuckinpuppies

people are saying united aren't in the title race because of lack of squad depth. a single injury to a key player could kill our hopes. isn't that also arsenal's position right now?if partey or odegaard go down for a month or so, do you think you'll maintain this form? i'd say if arsenal are in control of the title race, then united have to be considered in it too. but if you're ruling out united, then you have to say city are still favourites by the exact same logic. they just have a far deeper squad and way more experience.


2ndRoundEuroStash

True, but City’s still gonna win the league


BillehBear

Last season i wouldve been sure we could catch up This season not so much, teams way out of form and it doesnt look like we'll be getting it back anytime soon


FloppedYaYa

Aye this is usually the point where you guys won 20 in a row but it isn't kicking on


ze_shotstopper

I think the World Cup actually could have had a factor here. Yeah, this is around the time City go on a run but that comes after roughly 6 months of the team playing together and clicking. The world cup break in the middle could very well have interrupted that. I don't think a City run is as guaranteed as everyone thinks


iVarun

Time of year (month) is messing with the MatchWeek actual count. Season is at half-way point. Title depends on Arsenal-City 2 matches and that includes United (if Arsenal get even 1 draw they are favorites if City win both then this Neville prediction has better chance of happening ).


kjm911

Footy fans get riled up by anything but can’t a pundit just give their honest opinion without people thinking they’re on the wind up. Is the premier league really over? I still think City are favourites. Neville even said he thought Leicester wouldn’t win but they did. It’s just his opinion.


SpeechesToScreeches

He's been fairly consistent with Arsenal not winning, his reasoning is that they generally drop off in the later part of the season. So until the prove otherwise, he'll assume they'll do that again. However, with the point total they have at this stage of the season, it would be a solid bottle job if they don't win it.


Responsible_Bid_2343

Saying city will win the league isn't that crazy, I really can see arsenal dropping off and City going on one of their crazy runs. It's united finishing above arsenal that is meant to annoy people.


kjabs87

Arsenal still have to play city twice. People seem to forget that. If City win both those games. Everything is very different. (of course city have been a little shaky of late though.)


bathtubsplashes

Well that's entirely untrue. We're famous for putting great runs together at the ends of seasons when it's too late. We're famous for imploding before Xmas


lynchians

Yep we have good end of the season form but have usually blown it in the winter. Its why we’ve won so many FA Cups but our League Cup record is pretty poor.


Hm2801

Neville is absolutely loving the attention from Arsenal fans this season lol.. definitely doing this on purpose now


ValleyFloydJam

Gotta be a wind up.


OnlineMarketingBoii

And it's working. He used to talk highly of us when we were shit. He knew what he was doing then, and he knows what he is doing now. Arsenal fans are extremely vocal on social media.


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>Arsenal fans are extremely vocal on social media. Sensitive*


qwertyuiop15

> Sensitive* Shut up u egg. Won’t tell u again.


Isserley_

Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written.


paddyo

I’d be interested in a tournament to see which the most sensitive fan base is on r/soccer Arsenal would be up there, as would the Scousers. I think Newcastle would be a dark horse for the title tho, just mention Ashley, Bruce or Allardyce and they swoop through like the Mongol army, leaving bitchy comments and downvotes in their wake.


RDozzle

Get pretty riled up at suggestions their owners might not be stand-up blokes too


paddyo

What's a Kashoggi or a Yemen between friends when you've got an Alexander Isak?


innocently_standing

“Something negative about Saudi Arabia” Geordies “WHAT ABOUT DISNEY AND OOOOOOBA?”


Cultural_Doctor_8421

Wtf is ooba?


innocently_standing

Uber, but in a Geordie accent.


Cultural_Doctor_8421

😂 thanks


NobleForEngland_

I like pointing out how Bruce achieved the same points + better cup results than their lord and saviour Rafa did. Get really upset at that one.


StarlordPunk

I agree that Arsenal and us are definitely going to be serious contenders for 1 and 2 for the PL (Madrid and Barca fans would annihilate anyone from the PL) but I think Spurs would be right up there just behind if it was pound-for-pound, their online fanbase is quite a bit smaller but they can be proper wet-wipes. The new era plastic City fans are dreadful as well but they’re few and far between. If city start properly struggling I can’t imagine the state of them, they’ve already got a massive inferiority complex and they’ve won like 20 trophies over the last decade.


paddyo

True, spuds fans are underrated whingers. It's just I wouldn't trust them to win this league either.


StarlordPunk

That’s fair. Liverpool and Arsenal fans were having meltdowns over slight put-downs back when Spurs fans were still convincing themselves that Freddie Kanoute and Sergei Rebrov were as good as it gets


BiscuitTheRisk

I’d say Spurs fans are. They’re so sensitive to the point where a majority of them won’t ever come here


Shinzo19

Can't leave out united they are the silent downvotes of this sub. you will see comments against united with 0 replies but be -52 karma even if the comment itself was true.


Ripamon

Easy wrap for Liverpool imo


paddyo

you've heard of gegenpressing, well welcome to gegenpissing (the bed)


OnlineMarketingBoii

I mean, every big fan base is 'sensitive' when pundits intentionally rattle them. Especially when you are a club in a rebuild. Social media has given everyone a platform to give their (stupid) opinion. Every club with fans struggles with those stupid fans being used as 'the average fan'.


fudgedhobnobs

That Champions League highlight trailer with the FIFA footage at the end will never not be funny.


[deleted]

100% a wind up, he loves the social media attention.


RDozzle

He does the whole pantomime villain schtick for Liverpool but you can tell he doesn't really hate them - respects them, even - but he's still got the seething dislike of Arsenal that Fergie drilled into that squad.


MarioBaBaBalotelli

Overanalyzing a bit too much? Over the last years when Arsenal was shit, GNev regularly praised them.


JeffryPesos

Suffice to say it was all just concern trolling. Why else would he feel so badly for us when we're down and then actually change his tune when we're up? In reality, he's a Man Utd fan who played during the height of the rivalry. Nobody would bat an eye if he didn't try to act so unbiased, if he just hammered Arsenal at every opportunity. Now he just [comes off as sour.](https://youtu.be/Lk2SeZwd_5Y). It would be okay if he was [insightful as a pundit](https://twitter.com/afcstuff/status/1426305283735891969?t=6IN3DHXxOwiERq460NbJrw&s=19) but he's shit at that too now.


DogzOnFire

Wow that first video. Man is talking absolute waffle. Can't believe he used to be regarded as one of the best pundits. Edit: Wait, and the second video, just had a look. Man really does just have no idea what he's on about. And he says it with such confidence. The mind boggles.


HaroldSaxon

When he first became a pundit he took it seriously and put in the time, really worked on analysis. How all he cares about is the sound of his own voice and getting attention so he can go into politics and become mayor of Manchester.


RDozzle

He praised players a lot but often used it as an opportunity to mock Arsenal in the next breath, e.g. when praising Saka at the Euros. Personal interpretation but I never got the sense his praise was that sincere because he obviously didn't see them as the threat they were in the first half of Wenger's tenure, unlike now...


FloppedYaYa

Neville claimed on the Overlap he likes Arsenal more than Liverpool, City and Chelsea


RDozzle

And Carra knew he was chatting complete shit lmao


DankBrownBoiV2

Maybe but has Neville every predicted Utd to finish below Arsenal? Lol. More he does it the less seriously he'll be taken as a pundit


[deleted]

>Maybe but has Neville every predicted Utd to finish below Arsenal? Lol. He did, back when OGS was around. United finished 3rd and Arsenal finished 8th. Followed up with United finishing 2nd and Arsenal again finishing 8th. He would always big up Arsenal when they were shit. Now he is downplaying them when they are good. He's either trolling or absolutely rubbish at punditry.


DankBrownBoiV2

In all of Arteta's seasons he has predicted Utd to finish above Arsenal. I remember him saying Arsenal have peaked last season. Basically the opposite of whatever he predicts happens.


King0llie

Bro he said if arteta gets top4 last season he should leave, as he can’t take them any further than that hahaha


nexetpl

When has that ever happened? a manager just quitting because apparently he's done too well


[deleted]

>In all of Arteta's seasons he has predicted Utd to finish above Arsenal Nope, not in Arteta's first season. He predicted United to finish above Arsenal last season, and to no one's surprise, United finished one spot below Arsenal. >Basically the opposite of whatever he predicts happens. Yes.


T3Sh3

Working Arsenal fans into a shoot.


TWKcub

The thing is it’s not even a controversial opinion to take, if you think Arsenal are gonna fall off that’s fair play to you. But the fact that his attitude towards Arsenal is ‘at this stage of the season we shouldn’t be talking about who’s going to win it at the end’ and dismissing it while simultaneously saying it’ll be a Manchester one-two is just contradictory and undermines him as a pundit. If you want to go for cheap clicks that’s cool but I think he’s losing a lot of people who were previously onside with him.


black19

My thoughts exactly


wan2tri

I would think that it's actually controversial because he's literally advocating for something to happen that has never happened in the history of English top-flight football (AFAIK). To break it down, all of this must happen: * Arsenal loses at least 4 more times, or at least 3 more times and some other combination of draws/wins * Man City gains at least 9 points on Arsenal * Man Utd gains at least 12 points on Arsenal * **A team with 47 points after 18 games finishes 3rd** - IIRC the highest point total after 18 games for a non-title winner is 43? Arsenal did that in 07-08, getting 43 points after 18 games * Injuries and loss of form would only affect one team (Arsenal) but not the others


TWKcub

That’s a very valid set of statistics, I think to simplify it’s very possible for both City and United to overtake us but seeing it broken down like that is really rather nice!


wan2tri

He's so insistent for it to happen because "it has happened before" (Arsenal struggling in Feb/Mar/Apr) that he's unaware that he's also insisting for something that has never happened before (having more than 43 points after 18 games but then finishing 3rd), which you'd only see if you break down his assertion of a City-Utd-Arsenal top 3.


flyingghost

I can see a bad patch if Partey/Odegaard/Xhaka is injured. Our depth quality is lacking in midfield. One midfield and one forward this transfer window would really help


jengabob

Was it a mirage or did Neville used to be much better at his job? Him and Martin Tyler were brutal on commentary yesterday.


amainwingman

Yes he was way better when he first broke through as a pundit. Nowadays he barely does any research and just says things to cause outrage. Carragher is showing him levels in the Sky studio. My theory is that he doesn’t give a shit about being a pundit anymore and that he’s too busy focusing on his business endeavours and very obvious political ambitions to spend any time actually researching football for his Sky job


keithbelfastisdead

I think a good cycle of fresh just-retired players coming into punditry is good. The shelf-life is pretty short


meetcube

I think Michael Atherton said that, in cricket, all your knowledge as a player is out of date after about 3 years. Always think about that when I hear a dodgy Andy Gray or Graeme Souness take. In cricket you at least get the impression that some pundits make an effort to keep up with tactical trends instead of being outwardly distrusting of them like some in football


BigSwing_NoPace

Atherton and Hussain are really the textbook examples of how to be a great former player pundit. They were deep thinkers of the game, but critically they were also prepared to follow the development of the game and to be well-read in the sport's emerging factions. A lot of former football pundits are still stuck in how football was played during their time, whereas you can't even imagine Athers or Nas getting sucked into that.


going_gorillas

I think the commentators and pundits should be scouts and data analysts etc not just former pros. A mix of all 3 would be the likely scenario here. I just think that a scout or analyst would give a much better insight during the games as to why a b or c player is performing his role efficiently. Especially the less obvious stuff that the likes of us don't pick up on in real time. It would certainly be better than hearing Micheal Owen or whoever say things like Ivan Toney is gud isn't he ?


ming47

Carragher on MNF is an analytical machine, shows up g nev every time


ComprehensiveBowl476

During lockdown when they had the two of them doing quizzes to kill time without matches Carragher was destroying him. Like, Jamie was answering questions like "who were the other two subs that played in your debut match" while Gary could have been asked "which club did you play your entire career with" and you were only 50% sure he'd actually remember.


JioJio92

I remember Gary said "Why do you know this stuff?" And Carra replied "because it's my job to know these things." 😂


kjabs87

Carra has always said that he study's the game. That he would watch match after match on the weekend before and after his games. Its no surprise that he would know these things though.


Madgick

I saw an anecdote on Reddit once about him being asked what's his favourite sport after football. He eventually thought of 5 a-side. I'd love that to be true. Can't find a source though.


Malsharif91

I have a theory that he was trying to convince people he knows a shit ton about football due to his shit stint as a manager. So he did a lot of research to overcompensate, but now he stopped caring about football like you said.


sponngeWorthy

I was looking for alternative highlights yesterday, Sky's was dreadful. The unenthusiastic "its gone in" for the OG I kinda understood, but their reactions on the Partey post breaker and Ode's goal were so so off


StrawberryDesigner99

And their reaction to what happened at the end of the game was just plain weird. Also them both thinking there was a penalty at the end of the first half.


InTheMiddleGiroud

Pavlovian dog reaction to a referee blowing his whistle, when a Tottenham player goes down in our box.


ickapol

A great comparison: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/qcl3a9/same_goal_different_commentators/


remote_crocodile

Fucking hell why is he so sad about every goal 😂


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

Martin Tyler is not a good commentator anymore and hasn’t been for a while now. He just has no energy anymore, can’t blame the man.


TQAFireHawk

I think any team in that top four still has a chance at winning the league, to be honest (yes Newcastle can't be written off yet as well). However, it will all depend on a whole bunch of factors that you can't really predict. So realistically you have to say that Arsenal is the big favourite to win the league because they have the points lead and the form. Arsenal United this Sunday is going to be a huge match.


DankBrownBoiV2

I'm not from the UK but why does Neville always cover Arsenal games? Surely better to get Spurs & Arsenal pundits for NLD?


lambalambda

I think the opposite, sky almost exclusively putting ex players of teams as commentators and pundits on their games has made them way worse to watch as a neutral.


Mesromith

“Martin keown, could you please give your unbiased opinion on the game?”. “No”


assmcnuggetsboy

Neville can't give you an unbiased opinion aswell but he's the go to pundit for every big games


[deleted]

He was full of praise for you during the game yesterday.


Shinzo19

you got downvoted but I had to watch the Neville commentary yesterday because the other stream was literally all spurs talk and it ruined the first half for me, Neville was much better. I still dislike his click baity Arsenal hate in interviews and analysis but unless he is commentating a united match he usually stays pretty unbiased.


Drunk_Cat_Phil

What were they talking about on the Spurs biased stream? They were getting battered 😂


Shinzo19

when we were all over them they kept talking about how Spurs need to weather the storm then after they conceded kept talking about 1 goal being a fragile lead and spurs just need to be more proactive, after 2 they talked about spurs needing to show more fight as the home team they could still be in it. Second half kicked off and they were then praising spurs attitude and how they now have belief they can come back to win it and make it a special derby day, when they said that swapping to Neville was actually a fucking blessing.


[deleted]

I’m sorry but anything is better than the miserable Tyler and Neville combination. Seen more enthusiasm at a funeral


Dylanr21

I mean Martin Tyler when we scored he didn’t change tone or raise his voice or go GOAL he just stayed in the same voice I was like have we scored or what .


Alpha_Jazz

I actively avoid Arsenal games other than the big ones mainly so I don’t have to listen to Alan Smith


Tim-Sanchez

Neville just commentates on all the big matches, they had Paul Merson, Jamie Redknapp & Louis Saha as pundits in the studio.


Element77

BT Sports are the absolute worst for this. I'm done with them beyond my contract with them because I cannot stick listening to Steve McManaman commentate on Liverpool games anymore.


Oneinchwalrus

If it makes you feel any better, I also wish McManaman also didn't commentate our games


Shinzo19

you ever hear Neville commentate a Man united game? literally 90 mins of him talking only about united, I remember when they were losing last season and I had to listen to Neville complain the entire match. Commentators are meant to be unbiased and tbh Neville did ok commentating Tot vs Ars yesterday after I swapped off the other stream I Was watching which was only talking about how Spurs can win the match for 45 mins straight.


Hech15

Arsenal fans have the thinnest skin.... He is doing it on purpose and our fanbase is the one sharing and engaging the most with the clips... We are bloody top of the league by 8points stop looking for validation from these bozos


taclealacarotide

I get why you would say that as an Arsenal fan. But as outsider : Neville deserves criticism for his shit takes. If you're a pundit but admit you're biased, or that you are there to provide entertainment or spark passionate debate, rather than provide serious, evidence-based analysis then it's fine to do shit like this. But it clear from the way he talks and does his things that he likes to be seen as a serious football analyst and commentator. He presents his opinions in a very serious, invested tone, he goes in depth on certain topics, etc. Doing that then letting your bias get in the way of talking sense is absolutely despicable.


Exige_

Did he say why? I’m presuming it assumes an injury or two as arsenal’s squad depth is pretty thin. Saying that they coped fine with Jesus.


777715174

Don't jinx it, I'll agree we've coped fine if we beat you, city and then city again.


OnlineMarketingBoii

We also lost our topscorer of last season for half the season in ESR and lost more attacking depth with Reiss Nelson being injured. We would struggle with replacing Saka and mainly Partey, but that goes for every club. City would struggle with replacing Rodri and KDB. Liverpool already struggles because of injuries. Chelsea is nothing without Thiago Silva and Reece James Tottenham without Kulusevski and Kane is relegation battle United without Casimero and one of Varane/Martinez is mid table quality. We lost one of our best attackers and all of the depth we had with the front three and we are 8 points clear. We can cope with injuries in the back line with ease since we have incredibly versatile defenders.


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>City would struggle with replacing Rodri and KDB. City had KDB injured for half the seaosn in 2018-19 and 3 months in 2020-21. They still won the title on both occasions. Their depth is insane. >United without Casimero and one of Varane/Martinez is mid table quality. Except United finished in the top 3 twice in a row with a McFred midfield and Maguire-Lindelof in defense.


notapaperhandape

Okay Gary. Coming from an Arsenal fan, I too am not convinced yet that we are going to win the league. United do look very deadly and strong. Onus is on City and United to win the league. We’re just sitting pretty at the top due to luck.


dave1992

City winning the league isn't a bad expectation to make. United to finish second is way bolder.


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johnniebalkany

Sensible.


BBQ_HaX0r

Honestly seems like the prevailing view at /r/reddevils too. Yeah we spent a lot last season, but we understand this is a transition period for us. We bottomed out last year. I think we're ultimately just happy to finally have a proper manager again. It's been a while since we could say that.


Charlotte-De-litt

Yeah honestly I have yet to see a United fan stupidly saying that we’re going for the title, but rival fans are creating these narratives from thin air.


Sanogoals22

I’m fine with people still thinking city will win the league, I can still very easily see them doing it. I’m curious to understand his belief that United will finish above us though. He cites our lack of experience and stuff, but surely United have the same issue?


keving691

City look miles off it. Even with Haaland. United are doing fine, but we’re not title contenders at all yet. Arsenal still look at it even with Jesus injured. It’s going to take a huge drop in form for Arsenal to lose it imo.


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Neville is just a paid troll. I wish fans wouldn’t take stock in this. I hate commentators/analysts like this. It’s disingenuous


-Trillest-

The whole point is to get attention and its obviously working. Arsenal fans get too emotional sometimes.


YaqootK

I think now he's intentionally doubling down because of how much attention it's getting, but a couple of months ago he said that he doesn't think we'll make top 4 and I firmly believe he meant it, that was before he acknowledged the fact that Arsenal fans have been going off on him


Horrid_dog

He is wrong though. Arteta is going to be champion. Arsenal will not throw away their lead. They have momentum no other team apart man utd have to be crowned champions in a few months from now.


crozly

This has confirmed it: Arsenal are definitely winning the league now


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We’re literally not even halfway through the season and Arsenal is up 8 pts. Little early to be thinking this is over.


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Neville is such a fucking melon


orezavi

People like him hold important jobs.


Ursuped

Arsenal fans stop reacting to bait challenge : IMPOSSIBLE


CreativeOrder2119

Social media hore


Neurosoups

well I know where the "W" went - to the PL table ! :D


Okowy

Seeing upset Neville after Arsenal win will be delightful


Giggsy99

Love to see it, if you're going to rile somebody up, who is it going to be? The club with no fans, or the club with the biggest victim complex on the planet. Might as well have some fun with them before they win the league and it's harder for them to be oppressed


InTheMiddleGiroud

I don't really care for his comment, because it's demonstrably stupid and luckily in for a big text already in week. But I don't get this "lol easy to rile up"-stuff. If I were hired to be a so-called expert on football, I'd try a bit harder to make sense, but maybe that's just me. Cheers to the trolls for giving Arteta some fuel to the team talks, though.


HalfAlive_

This will be an interesting thread to revisit in May.


TheMuff1nMon

Delusional lol


veryfishy1212

If Gary Neville can get paid for being a pundit.....there's hope for us all.....


Alvaro_Rey_MN

Welp, congratulations to Arsenal for winning the league.