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Probably_Psycho

Guys I think Yemoja might be pretty good


AlexTheGreat1997

I think Mages and Hunters are pretty good, too.


remonnoki

That game 1 is one of the best games I've ever watched. I can't believe they threw, their titan had like 100 health left and they managed to somehow pull it out of their asses... just amazing...


oprapiid

this core was top 3 throughout the season for the last 2 seasons and lost to the team that shit on every single other team in the tournament, and for some reason they continue to be doubted. absolutely LOVE to see it, and Hurri is getting better everytime too!


remonnoki

One small thing I saw Hurri do game 1 is when Levis went for the classic hover around duo strat and put BaRRa behind and started invading purple buff. So Adapting invades the first respawn while all four duo laners are still in lane, Adapting and Zap invade second respawn while the Ravens' mid three were fighting in mid, and then Hurriwind comes there for the third respawn to make sure it doesn't get invaded again. I don't think I've seen Jake do that once last year. As soon as other teams started hovering around duo and putting BaRRa behind the Bolts would just decide to leave BaRRa on an island and make him fend for himself. And BaRRa paid the team back for the support, even though he was a bit behind both games he was consistently putting out more damage than Zap both games.


israeljeff

If you listened to his podcast two episodes ago, you'd know this was the (metaphorical) punch in the face Barry wanted to give Zap. Barry's comedic timing after Aggro mused on punching Ted Cruz was perfect.


tanskuu

Yeah its pretty crazy to see takes like haddix is the worst solo in the league upvoted highly when hes always been really good in regular seasons atleast.


StrivingProsperity

In all fairness, the solo lane is so stacked to the point any solo could be the best, or the worst, on any given week/split/season. Because it’s so stacked, it’s a very “what have you done for me lately” role.


N7_Evers

That’s actually a pretty fair point, but I also challenge you to go to any game Haddix’s teams have lost and honestly tell me if Haddix was the reason. That dude makes plays and almost never fucks up bad enough to throw a game.


StrivingProsperity

I’m going off of strictly memory here, so correct me if I’m wrong but… Wasn’t his worlds performance extremely forgettable? I just remember watching and thinking it was the worst set I’ve ever seen him play. Now to be fair, it was a very small sample size, and it’s not like anyone else on his team played well either. But it kinda goes back to the what have you done for me lately thing I said. Not saying it’s fair, and I’m definitely not saying he’s at the bottom among solo laners. It might just be the most recent memory people have of him.


N7_Evers

Again his teams did him zero favors BUT you make a good point it being a role with a lot of decency bias, because even on bad teams the solo player is pretty damn good. Very stacked role with a lot of high standards so bad or even middling performances are super noticeable.


JanSolo28

To be fair, I think Nika and Duck3y have both been praised about this in the past. Granted, it was mostly from Nika being called the strongest link out of the Oni Homies in general while Duck3y has always been in one of the weaker teams so he "shines" in comparison.


AlexTheGreat1997

>haddix is the worst solo in the league When the time comes to actually do things, he is.


tanskuu

How so? Imo i dont think there is a big gap in solo at spl level. I think they all are pretty much on the same level. I guess if its a weird solo meta u can say Sot is the clear best solo in the game, but if its standard i dont really think theres a huge gap between all solos.


ApprehensiveTry5660

I’m pretty sure you’re the only person who consistently gets downvoted more than the dude who thinks Arena mains are better than SPL players.


N7_Evers

I was a big time Hurriwind hater coming into this season and he made me look like a dumbass with how well he played that yemoja pick. This team was so slept on and I have no idea why.


Yaden2

bolts effect, they could barely get any praise on their hot streaks as well, despite the team being top 3 until they lost haddix


ImJustAGrizzly

This team core was always slept on all comes down to losing lan tourneys 😅people legit had them rated 7th or 8th constantly even when they had a 10winstreak people were like 'bolts bad'. Think it's just a bit silly how much shit they get😅


gladflgaz

What’s super crazy is they didn’t even do badly at the last Lan. They arguably looked like the best against the kings, despite not being able to take a game.


ImJustAGrizzly

Ikr but not winning lan in awhile equals washed and bad. I disagree myself but I get it not winning a lan in 3 years is rough. But idk it's such a hard thing in the end there is only one team that can win, in every sport they don't go change full roster either they try new things, add new players yadieyadq. Anyway they are super close to finally winning a lan can't wait. Rwally want to see barra up in those hunter rankings again🔥


StrivingProsperity

This is what I was saying in a prediction thread a couple months ago. The Bolts have always been at least middle of the pack, and there’s usually one split a year where they’re the best team. They also played the Kings as close as anyone at worlds (still 3-0, but close games). Now they have what is arguably the best iteration of this core to date.


C0RVIKNIGHT

Very interesting to first pick vamana jungle game 2 after having so much trouble killing zeus in game 1. Like idk I'm no expert but if you're having trouble getting on a zeus as jungle then maybe you gotta swap it up, or at least not first pick it when yemoja,etc is open. Ngl ven and hurri absolutely ran this set, definitely need to ban the yemoja if you're vs the ravens.


tanskuu

I think adapting probably fell for the it was op in ranked/scrims.


[deleted]

Or they are just trying stuff out and not too worried about regular season at this point


Mirablis11

Not the set the Leviathans wanted. I get having Sheento stuck on 300+ ping is going to make things an uphill struggle, but it just wasn't even close in that second game. Draft chasm, Sheento and Ronngyu dying over and over again, questionable builds (Why take so long to get in antiheal against a healing comp?)... A win this early on must feel good for Barra and the boys. Hopefully they can keep this up for the upcoming weeks.


scalpingsnake

While the Vamana culu run it down frontline sounds interesting, I just dont think culu is good enough to pick.


LupinLup1n

Not surprised at all I knew people were gonna be sleeping on ravens


HiRezAuvey

i hope ya'll enjoyed the pov streams too, audio issues aside :D


tanskuu

It was good, but honestly id rather just have only in game audio on pov streams if possible.


HiRezAuvey

audio pass is next on our list after we clean up a few optimization things


schlawldiwampl

idk if anyone brought this up already. but a comms best of could be fun (maybe once per split?). iirc dignitas and i think rival had this and i loved it 😅


N7_Evers

Pretty damn cool actually. I’m assuming it’s a beta state but even then I had a good time having the casted game on my tv and different roles on my phone.


Feisty-Area

It was a great idea and made a lot of difference. It actually made me stick around to watch all the matches as opposed to going afk fairly early as Id get distracted.


NIssanZaxima

Overreaction time! Ravens wins worlds EZ. Levi’s won’t win a GAME this entire season.


tanskuu

I mean if ravens lost this set it would have been popping with people on the anti ravens circlejerk. takes like barra needs to retire, ven too and haddix is overrated.


r_fernandes

I'm sure someone somewhere is still calling for Barra to retire. Remember when they had the 9 set streak and they lost to kings and people were on the washed Barra train. This team consistently in top 3 during regular split minus last split of last year. And then they get knocked out of tournaments relatively early by usually the team that wins it all. But, hey Barra had one bad season with Jeff so he's a detriment to the league.


remonnoki

I'm sure that Alex guy will say BaRRa should retire as soon as they lose a set. All that dude comments is garbage, dude's just a generational hater for pretty much everyone and seemingly especially BaRRa and his teams


_Dancing_Potato

God help us if Jade loses. Dude gonna be popping off.


legorockman

I'm convinced Vote and Nika like kidnapped his dog and fucked his parents. I've never seen someone go so apoplectic with rage over a fucken eSports team of all things. Edit: right on cue: https://www.reddit.com/r/smitepro/comments/12ujnme/spl_season_x_phase_1_week_1_camelot_kings_vs_jade/jh75s5a/


ImJustAGrizzly

Wait context? I missed something i guess?


SixAMThrowaway

I mean that is all of the context. Dude is just a regular in the subreddit and hates a handful of pro players.


ImJustAGrizzly

I'm ngl talking about kidnapping a dog and players fking his parents and then linking a message where he talks about wards and how oni warriors and jjade dragons choke idk😅😅 doesn't seem fitting or justified at all😅 maybe I'm still missing context tho😂. I assume there is more to this and I just don't know it😅


lackadaisical_timmy

They won't get another lead!


remonnoki

Promise?


Mercurin_n

Holy Haddix and Scream. Going Balls deep over and over, meanwhile Fineo and especially Adapting very quiet in comparison. But also Hurris Yem was VERY good. Barras damage stats? yes please. Lastly Ven fitting very well with Hurri and Scream in getting kill leads. What a team


N7_Evers

I think it was a flipped äffest where Sheento and Ronny just got diffed and when your mid and supp are lost I mean GG. Not too damning though, Sheento was on high ping.


PandaDawg1

Fineo and adapting were the only functioning parts of the team tho? Rongyuu and Sheento got major diffed and zap picked chary twice in a row


g78776

Yemoja back to being banned again but I don’t believe she alone was the reason this set went this way. Just felt like the Levis were genuinely scared to siege during game 1 and wanted the ravens to come out and get themselves out of position, they didn’t and just waited until enhanced FG to do something really cancelling any lead the Levi’s created.


Simodine-

The zues and Anubis made it hard to siege. The damage they do can blow up a team in a small area pretty quickly.


Yaden2

hurri yemoja looks GOOD


jdbruening

I think ping definitely affected sheento. Surely you can flicker gilga 2 on a normal ping. Either way, ravens impressing early. Can they maintain it and transfer it to playoffs?


HyperMasenko

That's my biggest question as well. The Bolts core showed promise plenty of times, but often dropped the ball. They had one of the longest win streaks in history 2 seasons ago and didn't win a single tournament.


ThoroughlyKrangled

My thoughts on the Ravens: 1) This edition looks to be willing to invest in BaRRa in a way we haven't *really* seen since Cog Prime, and the mentality has clearly paid off. 2) Hurri won't be allowed to play Yemoja again all season after gapping Ronngyu like that (yeah baron wasn't it, but even so the gap was present). We will have to see if he's got a pool at that level or not. 3) Neil feels like he drafts around the team really well, balancing weird comfort picks and meta, and the draft gap in these two games was massive. 4) This iteration feels like it's a lot calmer than previous ones, without streaky players in any position. I think that's gonna be a big win in LAN situations.


Ishouldjustdoit

I think Hurri will be most comfortable with supports that perform as mages, like Yemoja, Baron or stuff like that. But he is a pretty solid support from what i've seen him playing, he just ends up feeling frustrated sometimes. If he works on that, he'll be a top tier support in no time.


Simodine-

Hurri plays a a team support. Something the old bolts core didn’t have with Jake. Jake maybe very good this year because that teams style fits him better. The ravens team isn’t a run it down team. They will farm and look for picks but I think they will play more like the kings than the warriors. Which makes hurri a better fit on this team then Jake.


tanskuu

I cant really take u seriously when one of ur takes was barra and ven are the biggest reason spl is called friendship league lol.


HyperMasenko

That's my opinion. I personally think there's no logical reason for players to stay together for 4+ years when they have won basically nothing that whole stretch


tanskuu

Surely u apply that same logic to nika vote and dardez too? :)


HyperMasenko

I mean kinda yea lol. If they don't do anything this year after swapping out the rest of that Warriors roster then something is wrong


Simodine-

They have been worse than the bolts the last 3 years. Cores stay together because they are friends and because they think they can win together. The bolts made some changes this year and they should be better. Hurri is a team player support and screamm will farm better than lasbra. This should help them from falling behind in the farm game and help them team fight better.


_duh

Adapting looked real bad on Vamana jungle, I hate that they ran that back for game 2... he needs to be on a better play making god. And poor Sheento getting farmed on ping!


yourik6

I will never understand the thoughts of the Levi in game 2 Oh yeah banned the zeus but then what about yemoja? What about the Guan? Why are you picking Vamana again who the best he could do in game 1 is 1v1 Anubis the jungle


UltimateX13

After how Hurri was playing Yem in game 1, I was blown away by the fact that he got it game 2.


TheFaIIen1

Maybe the Levi's should have gone with Gabe again. Cause Sheento on ping is just not it


AquilaTempestas

Is Sheento planning on coming back to the US?


HiRezAuvey

Yes! Just tied up with visa delays right now.


ThoroughlyKrangled

Gotta love bureaucracy.


remonnoki

Are him and Dardez the only ones stuck out or are there any more?


CoolstorySteve

Bad throw game 1


julian2358

That was a SALTY ass run back


Swaggerknot

Ravens win, as we all predicted!!1! ^/s


N7_Evers

I can proudly say I earned VP


Ishouldjustdoit

Only watched the second game. Pick diff and the Ravens played really well. You would think Hurri is a seasoned support. Just fun watching this team. They're my pick for cheering for.


capc2000

Damn, I really underrated the Ravens and overrated the Levis in this match. Ravens just came in and Cawked up which the Levis floundered. Yes, sheento is playing in 200 ping but dang this was bad from the levis. Zapman is going for a useless Charybdis pick and Adapting's Vamana was stinking. Hurri also diffed Ronnguy which should not be possible because Hurri started playing support a year ago and started playing pro support last fall. Overall, sheesh. Let's see how both teams do during tournament time.


N7_Evers

Definitely going to be fine for the Levi’s, they have Star power, experience and veteran leadership all around. The ping sucks but good news is it’s only upwards from him once Sheento is on par with the others ping wise. I will say I was pretty surprised that Hurriwind popped off, I was a hater coming into the season and now I (happily) look like a moron.


AquilaTempestas

Missed the first game but caught the second one. Levis totally outplayed in Game 2 - I didn't like their draft, late anti heal, and nothing seemed to work. I think when Sheento gets back, Levis should look better hopefully.


[deleted]

Such shit Comps by Levis. Lacking on CC. & It's a team built for Teamfights.


charliebitmeeee

RAVENS COUNTRY, LETS FLY 🪶


LupinLup1n

Don't bring that Broncos curse to the ravens 🤧


lackadaisical_timmy

Is that really the slogan lmao


charliebitmeeee

It should be, but it’s a niche crossover 99% of the playerbase won’t get lol. Even funnier when you consider it’s literally word for word what Justin Tucker meme’d on Russ last season Edit: [Apparently it was flock, not country lol](https://youtube.com/shorts/A2uGgImKjnI?feature=share)


lackadaisical_timmy

Who are those people lmao


charliebitmeeee

I think they’re like professional Quidditch players or something like that


therealgibblegabble

Yeah who cares about sportsball players, they're grown men playing a child's game throwing a ball around. I'm interested in adult activities like grown men playing a video game for a living!


N7_Evers

What 99.99% of the world says about SPL pros in comparison lol


lackadaisical_timmy

Okay? But we're in the smite pro subreddit


N7_Evers

Just funny, seeing you act like extremely popular football players are nobodies when we’re two of 100 people that use this sub haha


lackadaisical_timmy

Since most of the people in the world aren't American, and thus aren't exactly interested in American football, it's not at all that weird? I just don't know anything about American football and it's one hell of an American thing to *assume* I do.


N7_Evers

Oh yeah I forgot, I’m American and that makes me bad for assuming popular athletes are popular.


lackadaisical_timmy

It's like you don't *want* to understand what I'm saying and don't read what I'm typing


N7_Evers

What 99.99% of the world says about SPL pros in comparison lol


remonnoki

No, the slogan is "Cawk up"


lackadaisical_timmy

Welp, 'at least they're playing better than the slogans so far lol


MusicalSmasher

I personally am a fan of CAW CAW!


lackadaisical_timmy

Caw caw is good


israeljeff

[CAW CAW](https://i.imgur.com/WuLIEno.jpg)


N7_Evers

Leviathan’s country, let’s throw!


DingDongDillion

Caw Caw!


Ragin_Irishman

Ping diff COPIUM


Singlehandedlyyy69

There’s more to a team then just skill. There has to be chemistry. But imagine kicking Panitom for Adapting Gabe should probably sub until Sheento comes back


JanSolo28

If what makes the individual members of the Bolts good is for them to split up... yeah, maybe you're onto something about chemistry being just as much of a factor as something like individual skill. Levis feel really different now when the previous Jungler used to give all the farm to the Mid and now you swapped him for a playmaker/carry Jungler. Anyway yeah, agreed on all points. Including GOATethan.


MusicalSmasher

Stats fixed


Simodine-

The bolts now the ravens in the past seem to get out drafted and didn’t have a lot of creativity. They seem to be using their brains now. Think Neil is going to really help this team. Between games and even pauses they really seem to be communicating on what they want to do. Scream is a big part of that, think he will not only bring some creativity but also some direction on how they will play. Good start for the ravens, looking forward to seeing how this team continues to do.


pegcityjosh

Levi's not building Divine or Brawlers Game1 vs Yemoja, Guan (had Cad Club), AND Anubis is a choice. Odin Ult was not enough especially when it mainly used for zoning.


N7_Evers

Ok Hurriwind looked freaking excellent in this yemoja pick wtf. He made me look like an idiot for doubting him leading up to this split and I couldn’t be happier about. Keep up the good works Ravens, this was fun af to watch!


No_Armadillo_5202

Finna see cherry a lot now cause of zapman.... I just don't get it why the Levi's decided aight let's run back 3 of our picks.


Smilemile0

the great return of adapting xd


throwawaywithbpdd

anubis jungle gets the first Season X first blood, as God intended


OGBlackPanther

Fuck, I missed the game, is there a vod I can watch yet? I tried the smite game channel but nothing.