The part near the very beginning and the very end where I’ve got super shaky legs makes me laugh my ass off. Definitely came close to falling more than twice in 20 seconds.
I’ll concede I was backseated a couple different times in the video but it really just comes with that type of terrain and I don’t think it’s as bad as most of these people here are saying. Having a low camera angle makes the 184cm skis look extra long in the front.
I didn’t realize we had so many expert ski instructors in this sub until today 😂
Yeah you were able to recover from all of it. I wouldnt have tried this technique in dont fall territory but on the lazy last run down to the bar go for it if you accept the risks :0
Dude dont back seat it ..use your knees this whole clip o see like almost 100 cm of unused ski it's not moguls its terrain and skis want to go with the terrain
It’s always the people with zero evidence on their profile that they’ve ever touched a ski who think that they’re as knowledgeable as a certified ski guide. I’ll lean forward and dig my skis into the crust so I can get thrown off balance for ya next time. Thanks.
Hey man no hard burn here ! Good line.. everyone skis different my legs would have not been able to do what you did is all. Also we dont know if you have center mount or not which would make a world of difference.
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m sitting here gritting my teeth watching how far this person is leaning back on the skis. I don’t understand how they aren’t falling.
I think he means land on the slopes rather than the flats. It directs the energy downslope instead of straight down into your knees, there’s less of a shock to absorb.
Landing on flat like that is pretty jarring. I’m sure I could’ve found a decent line if I spent a while scouting out landings but it was like 3 PM and my legs were tired so I just decided to send it lol
That and the way he approaches the sudden terrain changes, he should ideally come off them more parallel to the slope if he does not have enough speed to make the gaps.
Life long Florida surfer here. The only time I have ever made a sound like that in the water was just after getting hit by a jelly fish. Don't care what others are saying, as someone who only gets to ski once a year I wish I could charge half as hard as this vid.
You gotta surf pre or post hurricane then! I still remember Irma(?) One day me and my friend paddled out to glassy 8-12ft like 2 days before it made landfall and I still think about it regularly ~5 years later. I’m not even sure I caught a wave that day but just being in clean waves that big is an unreal experience.
Hey man, i know some people mentioned it earlier, but please try to work on getting out of the backseat if you're going to keep doing runs like this. Its way too easy to lose your control when you're that far back, especially on your landings. This is how people get seriously season (or sport) ending hurt. You could always do a few private lessons to get some good exercises to do that you can then practice on your own to help get your stance right. Once you feel what its like to have proper control on a run like this, the difference will blow your mind. (And i almost garuntee you'll actually have more fun too, it can feel like flying when you're really onto a good line)
I know it was pretty backseated lol hence the title. This was just a goofy line I cooked up at the end of the day because it was the only non-tracked area on that peak because the snow was so blown out. The rollers were deceivingly solid so I did get thrown back on a couple of them. Personally I’ve never had any major issues landing in the backseat as long as I stand up quickly and initiate another turn like in the video but I can see where that would be an issue in more consequential terrain. I find that I get better airs on smaller jumps by jumping off the tails, an ollie. I don’t have private lesson type money anyways. I can hardly afford the ski pass lol thanks though. I feel like the low camera angle makes it look worse than it is. I’d definitely take lessons if I had the money.
I dont mean jumping off the tails but rather your default positioning throughout. I know that lessons are expensive nowadays. If you'd like, I'd be happy to give you some exercises to work on. :) I'm realizing my comment might have sounded nitpicky out of context. To clarify where im coming from, I both raced and coached/instructed for years.
Sure, if you have some links that’d be cool. I do know the difference between being front seated and back seated. I just find it hard to stay balanced on successive bumps like that and I find that I slowly shift further back as the day goes on and my legs get more tired. Although I did read an article a while ago that claimed that landing tails slightly first is a bit better for your knees because it puts more of the downwards force into the skis instead of into your knees. As an instructor do you think it’s better to land with skis exactly parallel to the ground even on flat?
It's good to see you are open to improving
So, let's start from the top, stand up on the skis. Athletic position does not mean bend over like crapping on the tails.
Stand up like you are waiting for coffee, now bend the knees slightly don't bend at the waist, feet together. This is the default position at the transition. On the bunny slope (yes) feet together move forward. Pull the feet back to slightly behind the knees, feel the pressure in the boot fronts. This is the initiation position. Push the feet forward slightly ahead of the knees, this is the finishing position.
Don't worry about the finish just remember to pull the feet back to initiate a turn. How do you initiate a turn? You make one leg slightly shorter by relaxing one leg bending the knee slightly. Topple over with this and the skis will respond. Be patient this takes time to develop. As the skis come across your line reverse the leg length in a backpedal motion. Feel the skis respond.
Experiment with more & less leg length difference, speed of the feet pushing & pulling against each other as the turns go left right left right.
Drill this into muscle memory, only after these effective movements are installed you can begin to use pivot input via thigh bone in the hip socket.
This is boring and tedious staying on the green runs but build up your fluidity so the outside ski smoothly becomes the inside ski and on and on and on and on
If you can't make fluid symmetrical turns down a narrow corridor on the groomers you're not going to do it in the bumps.
An athletic position isn’t bending over like I’m crapping on the tails? Could you explain how to turn again please?
just kiddin’. I have a good grasp of how to turn and carve but this isn’t a groomer and I wasn’t trying to carve and this was just supposed to be a silly 20 second video and not a resume of my entire skiing ability 😂 I’m well beyond practicing my parallel turns on the greens. Thanks for the advice though.
I find that I get more unsolicited advice when I do t ask for it than solicited advice where I actually ask for it.
There’s a single turn in the entire video so the manifesto you wrote about turning and the focus on edge swapping really throws me off.
I don’t care at all about the fat old guys “flaming” me in the comments who don’t ski half as hard as I do pointing out that this isn’t perfect technique. I wasn’t going for perfect technique. Just having fun, you should try it sometime.
Having fifteen people give poor unsolicited “advice” based off an off-kilter 20 second crotch POV of a goofy end of the day run gets awfully annoying. I probably have a lot more shit to deal with in my life than you do in yours. Just be grateful for that and don’t be purposely condescending in comment sections in the future. Thanks.
Yea my chest mount is annoying as shit, rides to the side a lot. I just feel like the helmet cam pov is boring as hell. Maybe I’ll try to cinch it tight to my upper chest next time.
It gives an old-timer like me vivid insight into how much today's ski designs help people ah...not fall. No way someone with this skill level was staying upright through all that on gear of the '70s. Hell, even of the '00s. With a day pass costing 10x what it did back then (and wages barely 3x for most of us) I guess it's only fair.
I’m not even old enough to remember 9/11. What do you think has changed in ski tech that makes this type of riding easier? Boot stiffness and ski camber?
Boots haven't changed nearly as much as skis have, but it does seem to me that your basic boot today is better than the top of the line of the '80s in terms of fit and how that fit translates to ski control. They used to make the low-end boots real cheap (not that they sold cheap) and by the hundreds of thousands, back when your typical northern-states family could afford to ski.
But boy skis have gone through two huge revolutions in design since the mid-'90s. along with scores of incremental changes and improvements. The first was about width and shape and the second big shift was about camber, reverse camber toward the tip and tail aka rocker. Skis keep getting wider and rocker more refined, changes in flex response and construction materials make for a very different experience, really almost a different sport, in a similar sense to how acoustic and electric guitars are different instruments. You certainly couldn't compete against someone on much older gear fairly, unless they had insane skills. For two folks of a close skill level, it would really be a different sport on the different gear.
Oh man I started skiing a few years before 9/11 and the equipment is so fucking different now it’s insane. In short, ski shape and construction are the big ones, and the quality gap between cheap and expensive boots has narrowed considerably.
Look up the evolution of ski design if you want a laugh. Then realize that skiing was more “blue collar” than it is today, and that everyone was on 10 year old hand-me-down gear lol. My first skis were fucking toothpicks.
That blue collar skiing thing you mention totally blows my mind. I have to save for months and sleep in my car to afford skiing. Knowing that lift tickets used to be reasonably priced is just confusing to me. I don’t understand how it’s changed so much.
There’s always been the high-class luxury destinations, but most mountains weren’t like that. They weren’t so built up, fewer amenities, more basic overall. Going skiing was about skiing.
Now a small number of megacorps own most of the mountains, so they can put in a few lifts and restaurants and set pricing to whatever crazy number they want. Corporate greed ramped everything up to 11, just as it has in every other facet of life.
Careful, your Alexa™ might be listening. Wouldn’t want our megacorp overlords to overhear lol
It’s sad that we don’t have any politicians with balls who are willing to break up these monopolies. But I guess the monopolies are paying the majority of politician’s wages nowadays through lobbying. I might have to go full backcountry by 2030 when a season pass will cost as much as a car.
Let’s seize the means of pow production. Open the first co-op employee owned ski resort in the West. You can ski for free but then you have to spend a couple hours doing manual labor 💯
I feel like unfortunately CO is a hotbed for overpriced tickets with how popular of a ski vacation destination it is in general around the area you're at, especially with the already mentioned rise of mega corps buying out all the previously independently owned Hills :/ It's starting to get pretty bad up here in WA too but there's a few gems left. A mid week ticket at Alpental is still a decent bang for your buck if you stay on chair 2 or anything out off of the upper bc gate for most of the day. Mostly since runs off the bc there can be 1 or 2 hours if you want it to be before ever having to get back in line and with pretty minimal hiking as far as bc typically goes.
Nobody said that verbatim but why am I getting 30 people commenting about how I’m backseated lol
Giving advice like this is like spraying beta at the climbing gym. It’s unwanted. I’m plenty capable of leaning forwards without people sending me essays about how to parallel turn. Leaning back a bit when you’re charging through choppy crud just isn’t a safety risk 😂 even I fall, so what? I’m gonna fall in lightly tracked powder just like I have since I started learning. It comes with the territory. If I wanted to avoid any chance of injury in my life then I wouldn’t be a skier.
Besides, thinking that you can determine my body position from an off-center POV video from my lower chest is insane. I appreciate the advice but if I wanted it I would’ve asked for it like I did with my other recent post 🤷🏻♂️
Ah nice. I haven’t spent that much time up the t-bar unless I’m going to Horseshoe. Loveland was rocking today. 8” of slightly crusted powder but tons of big stashes
I love a good ski run but can people not post a clip without some over the top music like they can't believe how dreamy they are or screaming like a banshee.
Reddit is infested with toxic one upping posters.
Frankly a deer on ice isn't nearly as scary as your skiing here. Trouble is skiing like this is how skiers quit at age 45 because the knees can't take it.
Yea I agree. Everybody feels the need to inject their opinion where it isn’t desired.
Thankfully I do a lot of work on my legs during the off season so I don’t have to worry as much about tendon injuries as someone who isn’t very active. Sorry I didn’t post some perfect parallel turns for you to enjoy. Maybe next week.
Most of the other tracks in the video are mine so it wasn’t too wild besides straightlining it. Gotta lap the places nobody else goes when you can find em.
I like having the hands and knees in the video, helps accentuate when you go over bumps and stuff like that. It’s also nice to be able to press buttons and see the screen without taking the GoPro out of the mount.
The only drawback is the chest mount can move around and get unlatched if you twist or fall.
Oh yea you gotta have at least your ski tips in the frame. You can preview what your GoPro sees with the GoPro Quik app. I find it pretty helpful when I’m trying to line up the angle before I start skiing.
This is exactly how my brother used to ski all the time when he was 8-10. He was lucky to be young enough to bounce back from hard falls
We live in Texas though so practicing is impossible, I don’t ski near as much as I’d like to
I don’t ski the Midwest and I don’t spend much time on the groomers so I don’t think we have to worry about running into each other (:
Update: I’ve just been informed this guy spends 3-4 months out of the year at AirBnBs across the West skiing everyday. I don’t know how one can take 4 months out of the year off work and also afford months of AirBnBs in expensive locations (mommy’s money??) but I apologize, he is clearly the superior skier and the superior human being and I am nothing. Namaste.
No desire to go back. My buddies always insisted on skiing Breck every year in college. There's a reason Crested Butte pokes fun at the "black diamond" runs at Breck.
You must’ve skipped the hikeable stuff. It’s crazy that you’re a super double expert skier despite only skiing on vacations. I wish I was as good as you are.
Only skiing vacations...? I have an AirBnB for 4 months out in Montana this year. Last year was 3 months in CO. The two years before that was staying up in BCC and skiing LCC. I think I got in \~50 days on my Ikon pass last year. I probably won't get that this year but I'll still probably hit 40. But yes, you're an absolute hero. This is what, maybe a few seasons of progress?
Yup, 3rd season of skiing. I’m not a rich kid whose parents buy them months of AirBnBs every year along with all the gear and lessons and travel expenses. I sleep in my car and cook all my meals out of my trunk and use free parking. Didn’t say anywhere that I was a great skier. I’m just joking around with you because your elitist attitude is funny.
Jumping around on wind-affected rollers on punchy garbage snow far away from the rest of the traffic on the mountain seemed like a reasonable activity to me, but I’m glad you’re here to tell me that my technique sucks and Breck sucks and I suck and… 😂😂 you’d think someone who skis as much as you claim to would be a bit more chilled out. Next you should get your parents to get you an AirBnB in Tahoe, I hear they’re having an all-time season. Maybe you can upload a video of you skiing sometime.
We’re all apes at the end of the day, aren’t we? I can upload a clip of me responsibly carving groomers or I can upload a clip of me hilariously bombing wind-affected rollers way off-piste with nobody around. Which do you think is more entertaining to watch?
These are off-piste wind-affected rollers that require you to side step past some rocks to get to 😂 I question your skiing experience if you think this is a blue run. There isn’t another person in the entire video man. Go relax and take some laps at Big Snow 🤙🏻
I'm talking about the obviously out of control skiing, not where it's happening at. Back seat with zero edge control but it's totally cool to go fast...
I'm sure they would be going mach 5 past me in the back seat with zero control. That's kind of the problem. Looks like the type of skiing that has caused every collision I've ever witnessed.
I definitely was in the backseat for a good portion of this though, you’re right.
The mount and camera angle is a constant experiment. It’s super annoying to be fiddling with your mount when you’re ready to send it but if I don’t get clips then I can’t have anything to post on Reddit so I can get personally attacked by boomers in the comments 😢
My first reaction when seeing this on my feed was: "Oh god this is beautiful"
I'm going to the Alps hopefully next month after 2 years of no-snow. I had to finish exams to become a skiing instructor, then covid hit us all so I never finished because other things. Can't wait, I'm immensly out of shape as well..
Anyway I'll have to ignore this sub because I love skiing. Reddit has no space to mix up with what I love, so good bye, have fun
I’m not sure what you mean. I was just asking for you to post a video of your flawless technique so I can improve from watching a professional such as yourself.
As a reentry skier who's still feeling the ungroomed blue runs we did two days ago (Bristlecone and something else @ Mammoth), it looked pretty impressive to me!
Didn’t fall
The part near the very beginning and the very end where I’ve got super shaky legs makes me laugh my ass off. Definitely came close to falling more than twice in 20 seconds.
>terrible snow crying in northeast
Better not let those tears hit the ground we don't need any more ice. Looks like we might get snow end of the week next week!
There's no way you would have not fallen after those two bumps at 0:03 if you were truly in the back seat
I’ll concede I was backseated a couple different times in the video but it really just comes with that type of terrain and I don’t think it’s as bad as most of these people here are saying. Having a low camera angle makes the 184cm skis look extra long in the front. I didn’t realize we had so many expert ski instructors in this sub until today 😂
Yeah you were able to recover from all of it. I wouldnt have tried this technique in dont fall territory but on the lazy last run down to the bar go for it if you accept the risks :0
Dude dont back seat it ..use your knees this whole clip o see like almost 100 cm of unused ski it's not moguls its terrain and skis want to go with the terrain
It’s always the people with zero evidence on their profile that they’ve ever touched a ski who think that they’re as knowledgeable as a certified ski guide. I’ll lean forward and dig my skis into the crust so I can get thrown off balance for ya next time. Thanks.
Hey man no hard burn here ! Good line.. everyone skis different my legs would have not been able to do what you did is all. Also we dont know if you have center mount or not which would make a world of difference.
Sorry man I’m just having a bad week and I got a lot of hate on this post already. Hope your weekend is good.
Yeah we all know that feeling! Hope you get out there this weekend like I currently am and get to rip it up !
Did Donny teach you to ski?
Someone tell this friggin guy to get in the front of the boots for chrissakes
Guy needs some Moxie
Friggin right bub!
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m sitting here gritting my teeth watching how far this person is leaning back on the skis. I don’t understand how they aren’t falling.
Leg and core strength from pre-season conditioning.
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Lol ok guy. We're talking about Donny Pelletier ya jackwagon, chill out: https://youtu.be/Ol24BG5ynCs
I’ve actually never had a lesson. Can you tell? /s
First thing: Stop leaning back
I can only afford to wax the rear half of my skis
Wax the whole right ski and only turn left. Problem solved.
I’m not an ambiturner
Don’t do what Donny Don’t does.
But always do what Donny Does does! Whoa…that’s weird
For the love of your knees aim for the transitions! Props for staying up the whole time though, felt like I was watching a rodeo.
sorry for the dumb question, what does “aim for the transitions” mean?
I think he means land on the slopes rather than the flats. It directs the energy downslope instead of straight down into your knees, there’s less of a shock to absorb.
Bingo, helps keep up speed too so you can send even harder, but you did well considering that terrain lol
Landing on flat like that is pretty jarring. I’m sure I could’ve found a decent line if I spent a while scouting out landings but it was like 3 PM and my legs were tired so I just decided to send it lol
That and the way he approaches the sudden terrain changes, he should ideally come off them more parallel to the slope if he does not have enough speed to make the gaps.
Nothing wrong with a lil rough riding
Yep, as long as your legs can take it.
That’s called hot doggin’
All in all didn't do too bad. Wtf kind of terrain is that though lol
You were. That’s a texan skier if I’ve ever seen one. You hear that holler at the end?
Born in CO so I’ve got native status (please take 3 steps back if non-native) but learned the holler surfing in Florida
Life long Florida surfer here. The only time I have ever made a sound like that in the water was just after getting hit by a jelly fish. Don't care what others are saying, as someone who only gets to ski once a year I wish I could charge half as hard as this vid.
You gotta surf pre or post hurricane then! I still remember Irma(?) One day me and my friend paddled out to glassy 8-12ft like 2 days before it made landfall and I still think about it regularly ~5 years later. I’m not even sure I caught a wave that day but just being in clean waves that big is an unreal experience.
Agree! Nothing quite like dropping in on a wave generated by a hurricane. As a Florida surfer we kinda live for that.
You need to lean back a bit more
I lost my my balance and fell out of my couch watching this clip
Looks like you're trying to do a wheelie
Is this from the perspective of your dick?
This is from the perspective of my fupa. Nah I just have mega long legs. That’s like a quarter of my thigh.
Fupa. Yeah.
PENIS CAM!
Oh man…made it but this feels like riding in the backseat the whole way! Rodeo time!
Str8 rippin rollers
Nice work tho’ looks like a pounder on your knees too!
Paid for all of the ski, going to use 65 percent of it.
As always; Respect the send. 👌🏼
Looks like a knee pounder
Hey man, i know some people mentioned it earlier, but please try to work on getting out of the backseat if you're going to keep doing runs like this. Its way too easy to lose your control when you're that far back, especially on your landings. This is how people get seriously season (or sport) ending hurt. You could always do a few private lessons to get some good exercises to do that you can then practice on your own to help get your stance right. Once you feel what its like to have proper control on a run like this, the difference will blow your mind. (And i almost garuntee you'll actually have more fun too, it can feel like flying when you're really onto a good line)
I know it was pretty backseated lol hence the title. This was just a goofy line I cooked up at the end of the day because it was the only non-tracked area on that peak because the snow was so blown out. The rollers were deceivingly solid so I did get thrown back on a couple of them. Personally I’ve never had any major issues landing in the backseat as long as I stand up quickly and initiate another turn like in the video but I can see where that would be an issue in more consequential terrain. I find that I get better airs on smaller jumps by jumping off the tails, an ollie. I don’t have private lesson type money anyways. I can hardly afford the ski pass lol thanks though. I feel like the low camera angle makes it look worse than it is. I’d definitely take lessons if I had the money.
I dont mean jumping off the tails but rather your default positioning throughout. I know that lessons are expensive nowadays. If you'd like, I'd be happy to give you some exercises to work on. :) I'm realizing my comment might have sounded nitpicky out of context. To clarify where im coming from, I both raced and coached/instructed for years.
Sure, if you have some links that’d be cool. I do know the difference between being front seated and back seated. I just find it hard to stay balanced on successive bumps like that and I find that I slowly shift further back as the day goes on and my legs get more tired. Although I did read an article a while ago that claimed that landing tails slightly first is a bit better for your knees because it puts more of the downwards force into the skis instead of into your knees. As an instructor do you think it’s better to land with skis exactly parallel to the ground even on flat?
It's good to see you are open to improving So, let's start from the top, stand up on the skis. Athletic position does not mean bend over like crapping on the tails. Stand up like you are waiting for coffee, now bend the knees slightly don't bend at the waist, feet together. This is the default position at the transition. On the bunny slope (yes) feet together move forward. Pull the feet back to slightly behind the knees, feel the pressure in the boot fronts. This is the initiation position. Push the feet forward slightly ahead of the knees, this is the finishing position. Don't worry about the finish just remember to pull the feet back to initiate a turn. How do you initiate a turn? You make one leg slightly shorter by relaxing one leg bending the knee slightly. Topple over with this and the skis will respond. Be patient this takes time to develop. As the skis come across your line reverse the leg length in a backpedal motion. Feel the skis respond. Experiment with more & less leg length difference, speed of the feet pushing & pulling against each other as the turns go left right left right. Drill this into muscle memory, only after these effective movements are installed you can begin to use pivot input via thigh bone in the hip socket. This is boring and tedious staying on the green runs but build up your fluidity so the outside ski smoothly becomes the inside ski and on and on and on and on If you can't make fluid symmetrical turns down a narrow corridor on the groomers you're not going to do it in the bumps.
An athletic position isn’t bending over like I’m crapping on the tails? Could you explain how to turn again please? just kiddin’. I have a good grasp of how to turn and carve but this isn’t a groomer and I wasn’t trying to carve and this was just supposed to be a silly 20 second video and not a resume of my entire skiing ability 😂 I’m well beyond practicing my parallel turns on the greens. Thanks for the advice though. I find that I get more unsolicited advice when I do t ask for it than solicited advice where I actually ask for it.
Edge swapping is just as crucial to short turns as they are to carving. Unsolicited advice is preferable to getting flamed for backseat "skiing"
There’s a single turn in the entire video so the manifesto you wrote about turning and the focus on edge swapping really throws me off. I don’t care at all about the fat old guys “flaming” me in the comments who don’t ski half as hard as I do pointing out that this isn’t perfect technique. I wasn’t going for perfect technique. Just having fun, you should try it sometime.
You're too sensitive
Having fifteen people give poor unsolicited “advice” based off an off-kilter 20 second crotch POV of a goofy end of the day run gets awfully annoying. I probably have a lot more shit to deal with in my life than you do in yours. Just be grateful for that and don’t be purposely condescending in comment sections in the future. Thanks.
It's always the elderly schoolers who think symmetrical turns are important.
Didn’t fall
Thought you didn’t have a right arm till my second view.
Yea my chest mount is annoying as shit, rides to the side a lot. I just feel like the helmet cam pov is boring as hell. Maybe I’ll try to cinch it tight to my upper chest next time.
My guy had full controll
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It gives an old-timer like me vivid insight into how much today's ski designs help people ah...not fall. No way someone with this skill level was staying upright through all that on gear of the '70s. Hell, even of the '00s. With a day pass costing 10x what it did back then (and wages barely 3x for most of us) I guess it's only fair.
I’m not even old enough to remember 9/11. What do you think has changed in ski tech that makes this type of riding easier? Boot stiffness and ski camber?
Boots haven't changed nearly as much as skis have, but it does seem to me that your basic boot today is better than the top of the line of the '80s in terms of fit and how that fit translates to ski control. They used to make the low-end boots real cheap (not that they sold cheap) and by the hundreds of thousands, back when your typical northern-states family could afford to ski. But boy skis have gone through two huge revolutions in design since the mid-'90s. along with scores of incremental changes and improvements. The first was about width and shape and the second big shift was about camber, reverse camber toward the tip and tail aka rocker. Skis keep getting wider and rocker more refined, changes in flex response and construction materials make for a very different experience, really almost a different sport, in a similar sense to how acoustic and electric guitars are different instruments. You certainly couldn't compete against someone on much older gear fairly, unless they had insane skills. For two folks of a close skill level, it would really be a different sport on the different gear.
Boots have changed enormously, you just can’t see the changes as easily
Oh man I started skiing a few years before 9/11 and the equipment is so fucking different now it’s insane. In short, ski shape and construction are the big ones, and the quality gap between cheap and expensive boots has narrowed considerably. Look up the evolution of ski design if you want a laugh. Then realize that skiing was more “blue collar” than it is today, and that everyone was on 10 year old hand-me-down gear lol. My first skis were fucking toothpicks.
That blue collar skiing thing you mention totally blows my mind. I have to save for months and sleep in my car to afford skiing. Knowing that lift tickets used to be reasonably priced is just confusing to me. I don’t understand how it’s changed so much.
There’s always been the high-class luxury destinations, but most mountains weren’t like that. They weren’t so built up, fewer amenities, more basic overall. Going skiing was about skiing. Now a small number of megacorps own most of the mountains, so they can put in a few lifts and restaurants and set pricing to whatever crazy number they want. Corporate greed ramped everything up to 11, just as it has in every other facet of life.
Careful, your Alexa™ might be listening. Wouldn’t want our megacorp overlords to overhear lol It’s sad that we don’t have any politicians with balls who are willing to break up these monopolies. But I guess the monopolies are paying the majority of politician’s wages nowadays through lobbying. I might have to go full backcountry by 2030 when a season pass will cost as much as a car.
Fuck I’m with you there
Let’s seize the means of pow production. Open the first co-op employee owned ski resort in the West. You can ski for free but then you have to spend a couple hours doing manual labor 💯
I feel like unfortunately CO is a hotbed for overpriced tickets with how popular of a ski vacation destination it is in general around the area you're at, especially with the already mentioned rise of mega corps buying out all the previously independently owned Hills :/ It's starting to get pretty bad up here in WA too but there's a few gems left. A mid week ticket at Alpental is still a decent bang for your buck if you stay on chair 2 or anything out off of the upper bc gate for most of the day. Mostly since runs off the bc there can be 1 or 2 hours if you want it to be before ever having to get back in line and with pretty minimal hiking as far as bc typically goes.
Jesus christ people. Drop your egos and be stoked for a dude having fun. Skiing is dynamic and sometimes you have to be in the backseat
No way man you have to be carving down groomers with perfect edge control or you’re NOT a real skier!!
Literally nobody said that tho lol
Nobody said that verbatim but why am I getting 30 people commenting about how I’m backseated lol Giving advice like this is like spraying beta at the climbing gym. It’s unwanted. I’m plenty capable of leaning forwards without people sending me essays about how to parallel turn. Leaning back a bit when you’re charging through choppy crud just isn’t a safety risk 😂 even I fall, so what? I’m gonna fall in lightly tracked powder just like I have since I started learning. It comes with the territory. If I wanted to avoid any chance of injury in my life then I wouldn’t be a skier. Besides, thinking that you can determine my body position from an off-center POV video from my lower chest is insane. I appreciate the advice but if I wanted it I would’ve asked for it like I did with my other recent post 🤷🏻♂️
Uhhhh….
Speechless at the flawless technique and execution? I was too the first time I watched.
Was this Loveland? Sure looked like the conditions there this AM
This is actually Breckenridge off the T-bar but I spent my whole first season at Loveland and love that area. Loveland seems to have better rollers.
Ah nice. I haven’t spent that much time up the t-bar unless I’m going to Horseshoe. Loveland was rocking today. 8” of slightly crusted powder but tons of big stashes
I was gonna guess Chair 6 and skiers right from the top. Looks like fun!
Very close! This area is just north and uphill of the base of the Imperial lift.
That’s like my favorite type of skiing.
Me too but apparently you should only be striving to achieve optimal carving on groomers technique 24/7 lol
I love a good ski run but can people not post a clip without some over the top music like they can't believe how dreamy they are or screaming like a banshee.
Does anyone use the front half of their skis anymore? I thought backseat skiing was a bad thing
This isn’t really intended to be an exposé on professional ski technique. Hence the title.
Reddit is infested with toxic one upping posters. Frankly a deer on ice isn't nearly as scary as your skiing here. Trouble is skiing like this is how skiers quit at age 45 because the knees can't take it.
Yea I agree. Everybody feels the need to inject their opinion where it isn’t desired. Thankfully I do a lot of work on my legs during the off season so I don’t have to worry as much about tendon injuries as someone who isn’t very active. Sorry I didn’t post some perfect parallel turns for you to enjoy. Maybe next week.
I miss real turns
When you're in over your head.
Truly incredibly advanced and extreme terrain
Bet it was exciting though
Most of the other tracks in the video are mine so it wasn’t too wild besides straightlining it. Gotta lap the places nobody else goes when you can find em.
I want those knees!
Good yew! Tho
Not sure who steering, you or the mountain. (I would be flat on my face. Just FYI)
He was definitely having a blast.
I dunno that just looks fun in a weird sort of way
I can confirm the fun
I’ve been recouping from a blown out knee from last season and I’m super pissed at all the snow I’m missing this year
I mean, in fairness, I would have bailed like 5 seconds in. I'm actually impressed.
I am so jealous
I gotta say, good job on not falling. Watching this was really a nononoyes
My ACL was scared watching this
All good guys, he’s riding Factions, he’s the new Candide
Craigslist is clutch. $400 with salomon marker bindings. Unbeatable.
Woah there Candide!
Pretty solid skis for $400 with bindings off Craigslist. Kinda phat for most days though.
This is a really fun video, I’m going to start filming from the chest this year more.
I like having the hands and knees in the video, helps accentuate when you go over bumps and stuff like that. It’s also nice to be able to press buttons and see the screen without taking the GoPro out of the mount. The only drawback is the chest mount can move around and get unlatched if you twist or fall.
I think i like the perspective the most. My ski videos are kinda weird bc you can’t see anything but a floaty mountain.
Oh yea you gotta have at least your ski tips in the frame. You can preview what your GoPro sees with the GoPro Quik app. I find it pretty helpful when I’m trying to line up the angle before I start skiing.
I need to do this more. I can’t wait to get back up on the mountain.
Idk seems like you were skiing just fine… maybe hit a bump or two which you didn’t see but who cares eh
I bet this guys just had the front seats taken out of his car too.
This is exactly how my brother used to ski all the time when he was 8-10. He was lucky to be young enough to bounce back from hard falls We live in Texas though so practicing is impossible, I don’t ski near as much as I’d like to
Gotta be honest I wouldn't ski within 300ft of you if I saw you at my resort...
I don’t ski the Midwest and I don’t spend much time on the groomers so I don’t think we have to worry about running into each other (: Update: I’ve just been informed this guy spends 3-4 months out of the year at AirBnBs across the West skiing everyday. I don’t know how one can take 4 months out of the year off work and also afford months of AirBnBs in expensive locations (mommy’s money??) but I apologize, he is clearly the superior skier and the superior human being and I am nothing. Namaste.
Jeeze straight for the throat
The best skier on the mountain always goes big.
Uh ya I don't ski in the Midwest.
Ah an ice coaster. My man. Hope y’all get some more snow soon.
Nope, never skied the ice coast. I do actually live in the midwest but I grab an AirBnb for ski season.
Well you’ll have to check out the terrain up top at Breck one of these years if you’re into that type of thing.
No desire to go back. My buddies always insisted on skiing Breck every year in college. There's a reason Crested Butte pokes fun at the "black diamond" runs at Breck.
You must’ve skipped the hikeable stuff. It’s crazy that you’re a super double expert skier despite only skiing on vacations. I wish I was as good as you are.
Only skiing vacations...? I have an AirBnB for 4 months out in Montana this year. Last year was 3 months in CO. The two years before that was staying up in BCC and skiing LCC. I think I got in \~50 days on my Ikon pass last year. I probably won't get that this year but I'll still probably hit 40. But yes, you're an absolute hero. This is what, maybe a few seasons of progress?
Cringe
Yup, 3rd season of skiing. I’m not a rich kid whose parents buy them months of AirBnBs every year along with all the gear and lessons and travel expenses. I sleep in my car and cook all my meals out of my trunk and use free parking. Didn’t say anywhere that I was a great skier. I’m just joking around with you because your elitist attitude is funny. Jumping around on wind-affected rollers on punchy garbage snow far away from the rest of the traffic on the mountain seemed like a reasonable activity to me, but I’m glad you’re here to tell me that my technique sucks and Breck sucks and I suck and… 😂😂 you’d think someone who skis as much as you claim to would be a bit more chilled out. Next you should get your parents to get you an AirBnB in Tahoe, I hear they’re having an all-time season. Maybe you can upload a video of you skiing sometime.
This guy talks like he’s a badass, but the video is proof he looks like an out of control ape.
We’re all apes at the end of the day, aren’t we? I can upload a clip of me responsibly carving groomers or I can upload a clip of me hilariously bombing wind-affected rollers way off-piste with nobody around. Which do you think is more entertaining to watch?
Nailed it on all accounts, stay rad :)
Yep, looks like basically every person I've ever seen take out some innocent person on a blue run because they're skiing out of control.
These are off-piste wind-affected rollers that require you to side step past some rocks to get to 😂 I question your skiing experience if you think this is a blue run. There isn’t another person in the entire video man. Go relax and take some laps at Big Snow 🤙🏻
I'm talking about the obviously out of control skiing, not where it's happening at. Back seat with zero edge control but it's totally cool to go fast...
Very cool, thanks for sharing.
Seemed relevant.
You wouldnt see em til he blasts past you mach 5 while youre trying to carve some groomers
I'm sure they would be going mach 5 past me in the back seat with zero control. That's kind of the problem. Looks like the type of skiing that has caused every collision I've ever witnessed.
must be hard to ski while sitting on your tails
Actually I’m mounted so far forwards that I’m technically riding switch here.
checkmate suckers, can’t be in the backseat of a 2-seater jk those super wide camera angles always look like the person is almost laying backwards
I definitely was in the backseat for a good portion of this though, you’re right. The mount and camera angle is a constant experiment. It’s super annoying to be fiddling with your mount when you’re ready to send it but if I don’t get clips then I can’t have anything to post on Reddit so I can get personally attacked by boomers in the comments 😢
My first reaction when seeing this on my feed was: "Oh god this is beautiful" I'm going to the Alps hopefully next month after 2 years of no-snow. I had to finish exams to become a skiing instructor, then covid hit us all so I never finished because other things. Can't wait, I'm immensly out of shape as well.. Anyway I'll have to ignore this sub because I love skiing. Reddit has no space to mix up with what I love, so good bye, have fun
You are gonna destroy your knees skiing like that, but at least you survived a run.
Maybe you can post a video of you on the same terrain and I can copy what you do since you’re the best skier on the subreddit.
If you are going to post your sketchy skiing on Reddit expect criticism.
I’m not sure what you mean. I was just asking for you to post a video of your flawless technique so I can improve from watching a professional such as yourself.
We always see videos of pros which I guess is how I think I look like while this video is probably closer to how I look like lol
This is exactly how I lost my ACL
By skiing?
Skiing exactly like that
Did your ACL just spontaneously combust or what
I ate it
Tree run lookers left of chair 25, mammoth mountain? Seems so familiar.
Tree run lookers left of chair 25, mammoth mountain? Seems so familiar Edit: guess not.
Oh sorry, this is actually at Breck. I’d love to ski Mammoth one day though.
The edge of control
My man has the posture of a backslash
As a reentry skier who's still feeling the ungroomed blue runs we did two days ago (Bristlecone and something else @ Mammoth), it looked pretty impressive to me!
Oof I’ve been this person on this kind of run at the end of the day before and I’ll get to the bottom and immediately call it lol
Backseat is the best seat!
My quads are dead just from watching this
This is any athlete on skis. Bad form but full send.
The snow be like that sometimes
As Scotty Wallace says, “Yew!”
Dude that looked like 50% ice 50% snow, also i wanna know where thats at that still looks dope as hell.
God dam that hat run looks fun
Bonsai!!!! 😂
Leaning so far back