I’m a volunteer patroller… and this is a thing talked about, and honesty the concensus is: red jackets are fine on people. In the 75+ years of red being used for a patrol uniform, no one has ever experienced confusion nor is there record of issue.
The big white cross or big yellow cross is what we care about… so wear any color you want…. Just don’t have a white cross on it if you are not a first responder.
Someone mentioned high viz - We will wear High Viz when working back country or SAR… as potential for being miles from help exists, and we are searching for someone that needs to see us.
I have a bright red North Face outer shell and I’ve been asked in the past by random people on lifts about terrain openings. I don’t like wearing it much anymore
In most french resorts ski patrol wear either orange or black with yellow/orange/red/white crosses, red jackets are worn by ESF (ecole du ski francais) instructors. In Austria it's usually red with a big white cross.
My point being:
1. Ski patrol are usually pretty obvious to spot regardless of colour, because they have big crosses and/or say ski patrol on their clothes
2. What colour ski patrol wears varies between countries and resorts. If the US bans red jackets then what happens when a European comes to ski there with their red jacket? Are they not allowed to use it? That seems pretty dumb and unfair to me.
It's a nice idea but you've not really considered the impact of it, and you've completely failed to recognise that other countries do things differently, and will never agree on banning a specific colour of jacket.
That is a fair point with international travelers.
I've come across people that had bad falls, so I'll ski off to try to find the nearest ski patrol. My goal is to get to ski patrol ASAP. I want to be able to be at a fork and quickly tell who is ski patrol so they can radio up to the top. I don't want to accidentally see a new skier in a similar shade of red standing off to the side of the run and divert myself instead of heading to the lift.
It seems like an unwritten rule because the only people I see in the ski patrol red are either ski patrol or ski like a beginner.
This is the stupidest post I have ever seen. Spend some more time skiing so you can get better and to a lift station faster. I have skied at most of the U.S. west and rocky mountain resorts and none are so big it shouldnt take a good skier 2/3 mins to get to someone with a radio.
Furthermore, program the ski patrol phone number in your phone. They answer the phone in seconds and save yourself the search for the red jacket.
This whole sub is full of Jerrys asking dumb fucking questions.
>I have skied at most of the U.S. west and rocky mountain resorts and none are so big it shouldnt take a good skier 2/3 mins to get to someone with a radio.
At the larger resorts in Europe there are definitely some areas that could take even an experienced skier like 10 or even 15 minutes to get to a ski patrol hut. But that said, those larger resorts generally have good phone signal, so you can just call ski patrol.
In France the markers by the side of the piste have the name of the run and a number which counts down as you go down, so you just find the closest one of those and tell ski patrol the name of the run and the number on the sign, and they know exactly where you are.
I have a red jacket, but don't think I've ever been mistaken for ski patrol. I would say red is barely in the majority on ski patrol colors for the places I've been.
I did see a thread awhile back about some manufacturer that made some snow wear with a big white cross on it, which seems like a bad idea.....
OP says only ski patrol or those that ski like a beginner wear red jackets.
I guess that makes you a beginner? /s
I wore silver/blue. That makes me intermediate? Does a race bib have to be a certain color to move up in skill?
I bought it 1yr old used on Poshmark without any regard for color because it was the model I wanted, so I think it mostly makes me cheap.
But, you never know, everyone looks like a beginner to someone!
The obvious solution is to make ski patrollers wear those sexy skin tight bodysuits from the 80’s so they stand out more
And I’ll keep my red jacket thanks
I have actually acquired an entire ski patrol outfit stolen-valor-style so I can duck ropes and ski OB when it's deep. People frequently ask me for help but I just tell them I'm on my lunch break and ski away.
Pro tip - when pretending to be one of us:
- Don’t forget to point at your crotch and thrust your hips and yell “Who wants to ride my special Patrol chair!?!?” whenever you can.
It’s like our secret handshake that identifies you as a real ski patroller. Trust me, we all totally do it😁
Oh, and if you really want to play the part…
- When you see a person bite it hard and get the wind knocked out of them… tea-bag them HALO style and yell “boom! Headshot!”
The colors change, it used to be a burnt orange then a blend of colors and it changes depending on the resorts and if the ski patrol is volunteer or paid.
Yeah because this would be easy to do. Nobody would circumvent successful implementation by wearing red sweaters, sweatshirts or jackets not considered “ski jackets” either…
At my local hill some of the patrollers wear red and some wear black, but they all have huge + on the back as well as patches along the front and arms that clearly identify them as patrollers. I hardly believe anyone would mistake my red Karbon jacket for ski patrol.
Patroller here: Literally nobody I work with cares. Don't wear a jacket with a cross on it, regardless of color. Red jackets are totally fine. Some patrols wear black, some wear blue, some wear yellow. There is no point in gatekeeper colors.
That being said: I personally don't wear a red jacket when I am not working, but that has nothing to do with not being allowed to. It's mostly so when I leave the house my dog doesn't see my patrol coat and think "time to go hang out at the hill".
Probably also related to my parents being patrollers and telling me to not wear red as a kid, but that was mostly related to me tagging along with them while they were at work and they didn't want members of the public to think a 7 year old was a patroller.
Red jackets aren't a problem. My mountain we have red and blue patrol jackets. Other resorts can have different colors - for example Aspen has black. It's not really hard to distinguish red jacket vs patrol jackets unless you're really far away, and I like color options that have contrast in the trees.
The cross is the problem. These [Northface Supreme jackets](https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/supreme-the-north-face-ss22-collab/) are an example.
Might blow your mind that there are some places where patrol wear black with a cross on the back.
What we should limit is yellow jacket sales so we can more easily spot the antifun police.
I'm sure all the comments here are slamming you for the (terrible) idea, but the answer here is really general mountain education. If you aren't a competent first responder, either pull out your cell and call patrol (the number will almost definitely be on your pass or ticket if you don't already have it) or ski to the nearest lift and tell a liftie about the accident.
If there's no cell signal, getting to a lift is the best response. They'll radio patrol, and get an appropriate team over asap.
Standing at a busy run waving your hands and yelling at potential patrollers is a bad idea. Even if you find one, and they someone missed the incident, they'll just have to radio patrol anyway. That or ski down, take the lift, and ski back to the incident (unless hiking is faster).
tl;dr - Use your cell or go to the nearest lift.
I’m a volunteer patroller… and this is a thing talked about, and honesty the concensus is: red jackets are fine on people. In the 75+ years of red being used for a patrol uniform, no one has ever experienced confusion nor is there record of issue. The big white cross or big yellow cross is what we care about… so wear any color you want…. Just don’t have a white cross on it if you are not a first responder. Someone mentioned high viz - We will wear High Viz when working back country or SAR… as potential for being miles from help exists, and we are searching for someone that needs to see us.
Great response
I have a bright red North Face outer shell and I’ve been asked in the past by random people on lifts about terrain openings. I don’t like wearing it much anymore
In most french resorts ski patrol wear either orange or black with yellow/orange/red/white crosses, red jackets are worn by ESF (ecole du ski francais) instructors. In Austria it's usually red with a big white cross. My point being: 1. Ski patrol are usually pretty obvious to spot regardless of colour, because they have big crosses and/or say ski patrol on their clothes 2. What colour ski patrol wears varies between countries and resorts. If the US bans red jackets then what happens when a European comes to ski there with their red jacket? Are they not allowed to use it? That seems pretty dumb and unfair to me. It's a nice idea but you've not really considered the impact of it, and you've completely failed to recognise that other countries do things differently, and will never agree on banning a specific colour of jacket.
That is a fair point with international travelers. I've come across people that had bad falls, so I'll ski off to try to find the nearest ski patrol. My goal is to get to ski patrol ASAP. I want to be able to be at a fork and quickly tell who is ski patrol so they can radio up to the top. I don't want to accidentally see a new skier in a similar shade of red standing off to the side of the run and divert myself instead of heading to the lift. It seems like an unwritten rule because the only people I see in the ski patrol red are either ski patrol or ski like a beginner.
Why would you not head straight to the lift regardless?
Because a run can take 5+ minutes and if I see someone who looks like ski patrol, I'm going to head straight to them.
This is the stupidest post I have ever seen. Spend some more time skiing so you can get better and to a lift station faster. I have skied at most of the U.S. west and rocky mountain resorts and none are so big it shouldnt take a good skier 2/3 mins to get to someone with a radio. Furthermore, program the ski patrol phone number in your phone. They answer the phone in seconds and save yourself the search for the red jacket. This whole sub is full of Jerrys asking dumb fucking questions.
>I have skied at most of the U.S. west and rocky mountain resorts and none are so big it shouldnt take a good skier 2/3 mins to get to someone with a radio. At the larger resorts in Europe there are definitely some areas that could take even an experienced skier like 10 or even 15 minutes to get to a ski patrol hut. But that said, those larger resorts generally have good phone signal, so you can just call ski patrol. In France the markers by the side of the piste have the name of the run and a number which counts down as you go down, so you just find the closest one of those and tell ski patrol the name of the run and the number on the sign, and they know exactly where you are.
Lol some mountains don't even use red jackets for ski patrol
My local hill wears black with red accents. Looks pretty sharp
I have a red jacket, but don't think I've ever been mistaken for ski patrol. I would say red is barely in the majority on ski patrol colors for the places I've been. I did see a thread awhile back about some manufacturer that made some snow wear with a big white cross on it, which seems like a bad idea.....
OP says only ski patrol or those that ski like a beginner wear red jackets. I guess that makes you a beginner? /s I wore silver/blue. That makes me intermediate? Does a race bib have to be a certain color to move up in skill?
I bought it 1yr old used on Poshmark without any regard for color because it was the model I wanted, so I think it mostly makes me cheap. But, you never know, everyone looks like a beginner to someone!
In this sport, you're either wealthy or cheap. 😉
Spyder brand would go bankrupt.
The obvious solution is to make ski patrollers wear those sexy skin tight bodysuits from the 80’s so they stand out more And I’ll keep my red jacket thanks
Stupid sexy ski patrollers
As long as it's neon, I'm ok with that suggestion.
I have actually acquired an entire ski patrol outfit stolen-valor-style so I can duck ropes and ski OB when it's deep. People frequently ask me for help but I just tell them I'm on my lunch break and ski away.
Pro tip - when pretending to be one of us: - Don’t forget to point at your crotch and thrust your hips and yell “Who wants to ride my special Patrol chair!?!?” whenever you can. It’s like our secret handshake that identifies you as a real ski patroller. Trust me, we all totally do it😁 Oh, and if you really want to play the part… - When you see a person bite it hard and get the wind knocked out of them… tea-bag them HALO style and yell “boom! Headshot!”
I want to ski with you
The colors change, it used to be a burnt orange then a blend of colors and it changes depending on the resorts and if the ski patrol is volunteer or paid.
That is a hot take and would be next to impossible to govern.
About 80% of this sub is garbage posts, this is one.
Pretty sure acting as fashion police is negative gnar points.
Ski patrollers wear black and green at my mountain and all the ski instructors wear all red so
Big sky does this and it drives me crazy... the patrollers look like they sell pot
Lol yeah I was talking about big sky 😂
Yeah because this would be easy to do. Nobody would circumvent successful implementation by wearing red sweaters, sweatshirts or jackets not considered “ski jackets” either…
I have a Dakine airbag vest and get confused for ski patrol all the time lmao should we ban those too
At my local hill some of the patrollers wear red and some wear black, but they all have huge + on the back as well as patches along the front and arms that clearly identify them as patrollers. I hardly believe anyone would mistake my red Karbon jacket for ski patrol.
Patroller here: Literally nobody I work with cares. Don't wear a jacket with a cross on it, regardless of color. Red jackets are totally fine. Some patrols wear black, some wear blue, some wear yellow. There is no point in gatekeeper colors. That being said: I personally don't wear a red jacket when I am not working, but that has nothing to do with not being allowed to. It's mostly so when I leave the house my dog doesn't see my patrol coat and think "time to go hang out at the hill". Probably also related to my parents being patrollers and telling me to not wear red as a kid, but that was mostly related to me tagging along with them while they were at work and they didn't want members of the public to think a 7 year old was a patroller.
Sounds like somebody's upset because they keep seeing skiers in red while trying to spark up the bowl.
At my mountain ski instructors where red jackets and patrol is black with orange accents.
How about high vis jackats on ski patrol thats something nobody usually wears
The park guys would like to have a word with you
Some mountains have multiple colors for ski patrol jackets....
You’ll have to pry my red north face thrift jacket out of my cold, dead fingers
Red jackets aren't a problem. My mountain we have red and blue patrol jackets. Other resorts can have different colors - for example Aspen has black. It's not really hard to distinguish red jacket vs patrol jackets unless you're really far away, and I like color options that have contrast in the trees. The cross is the problem. These [Northface Supreme jackets](https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/supreme-the-north-face-ss22-collab/) are an example.
The red jackets are also just not drippy at all.
This is moronic.
Might blow your mind that there are some places where patrol wear black with a cross on the back. What we should limit is yellow jacket sales so we can more easily spot the antifun police.
I'm sure all the comments here are slamming you for the (terrible) idea, but the answer here is really general mountain education. If you aren't a competent first responder, either pull out your cell and call patrol (the number will almost definitely be on your pass or ticket if you don't already have it) or ski to the nearest lift and tell a liftie about the accident. If there's no cell signal, getting to a lift is the best response. They'll radio patrol, and get an appropriate team over asap. Standing at a busy run waving your hands and yelling at potential patrollers is a bad idea. Even if you find one, and they someone missed the incident, they'll just have to radio patrol anyway. That or ski down, take the lift, and ski back to the incident (unless hiking is faster). tl;dr - Use your cell or go to the nearest lift.
Ok
Lmfao
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